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batbotcrewfrosh
03-25-2003, 11:46 AM
Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!

Greg Ross
03-25-2003, 11:53 AM
This query should probably be in the General forum, since only moderators may reply in this Q&A forum. (Although, now that I've responded, someone else may choose to "Begin [an] additional discussion regarding this question".)

kristinL356
03-25-2003, 01:04 PM
We've got 2 college girls that do PR, fundraising, & spend their spare time in the machine shop. Our team captain from St. Louis was a girl. She's also strategist & did a lot of assembly. Our team captain for the upcoming Peachtree regional is a girl. She does a lot of videotaping & did our chairman's award stuff the previous year. Neither of the team captains spent much time in the shop. We've got 2 more girls (one high school & one college) that are there maybe 2/3 of the time that do a lot of machining & assembly & whatever else needs to be done. I'm a girl & I do a bunch of machining & whatever nobody else wants to do or can't be trusted to do. I think that's all of the girls on our team. There are hardly ever high school boys in the machine shop. I think I heard one of the college students (who did a lot of machining & designing too) say something about not wanting them where they'll get in the way or hurt themselves. Hehe. The high school boys are usually doing driver, human player, or assembly stuff. I think we've got about 11 guys (including the 3 college) on our team. I'm no good with numbers so those might be wrong. But I tried.

soezgg
03-25-2003, 01:20 PM
6 of 25 students on our team are girls.

Generally speaking, on our team, most of them dont do anything.

But 2 of the cool ones do quite a bit of machining and handiwork.

The problem is, none of them take real initiative to do any of the design work, or fundraising or chairmans stuff. One of the parents on the team blame it on intimidation, most of us guys are pretty scary I guess.

I am trying to make them do more work and get involved, but its hard, Im not quite sure that they have the desire to learn, and if they dont, they are on the team for the wrong reasons.

Hailfire
03-25-2003, 02:03 PM
4 out of 10 students are girls on our team. One does all of the web work, organizes team parties, one does most of the electrical stuff, wiring, etc., one does all of the writing, typing, and cheering for the team, and the last one represents our team by being the team mascot, and does a variety of stuff.

Meanwhile, I did some animation, some work on the crate for the robot, some wiring, some programming, and quite a bit of construction.

I guess you could say that everyone on our whole team did something constructive throughout build period, and outside of build period.

Ashley Weed
03-25-2003, 02:18 PM
We have about 9 people listed as female members on the list of almost 40 team members. I am the only one you will ever find in the shop, I work on Intelliegence, and I am the operator. The others who are 'involved' with the team are business/PR members.

Melissa Nute
03-25-2003, 03:03 PM
We have a good amount of girls on my team (actually I think more than the number of boys) and all our girls work out in the shop either doing machining, welding, or such.

AdamT
03-25-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by soezgg
The problem is, none of them take real initiative to do any of the design work, or fundraising or chairmans stuff. One of the parents on the team blame it on intimidation, most of us guys are pretty scary I guess.

I am trying to make them do more work and get involved, but its hard, I'm not quite sure that they have the desire to learn, and if they don't, they are on the team for the wrong reasons.

This seems to be the most common problem. We only have 2 girls on our team, and they both chose to mainly work on PR and such, even though one of them decided to help out where she could on the robot. In her situation she didn't think she was smart enough to do the stuff that was going on. I tried to get to understand that you don't have to understand all of it to be a great member. I don't know if my message got through, but I tried.

I think recruiting women is an important part of the program. And I do mean recruit. You may be lucky enough to have some girls filter into the team by word of mouth, but many times the best female members will come because they are asked. If you ask them to come and they want to, they are more likely to be productive members for the sheer fact that someone felt them valuable enough to ask them to come.

It's important for team members to follow through and invite them to work on different things if they become seemingly unmotivated to be aggressive. This something that not only mentors should do. Team members should encourage other team members to get their say in if they are quiet. Have the older members mentor the younger mentors.

I think the key to having women on a team is to show them that they can do this and it's not a "guy thing." If you tell someone they are stupid and can't do certain things, eventually they will think that (and women are still often told that in respects to engineering). Break that mentality!

In FIRST as in the rest of the world, apathy is our enemy.

Shawn60
03-25-2003, 03:45 PM
The problem is, none of them take real initiative to do any of the design work, or fundraising or chairmans stuff. One of the parents on the team blame it on intimidation, most of us guys are pretty scary I guess.

I am trying to make them do more work and get involved, but its hard, I'm not quite sure that they have the desire to learn, and if they don't, they are on the team for the wrong reasons.

Don't sound so superior. The girls joined your team for some reason. They had some goal in mind. Be a LEADER. Maybe it is NOT you job to "make them do work"... Maybe it is your job to "HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THEIR OWN GOALS".

13 of the 20 members of our team are girls. The girls on our team are OUTSTANDING. Were have 4 team leaders on our team... 3 (two sophomores and a senior) are girls. They do everything on the team. Marketing, fund raising, public speaking, Lego League, machining, presentations, organizing the team appearance, team hand outs, spirit, community outreach, organizing the team banquet, scouting, recruiting new members, and everything else we might do. We have about 14 very, very, involved members and most of them are girls. The best machinist on our team is a sophomore girl. One of the best public speakers on the team is a sophomore girl.

Shawn
Team 60

Rob Colatutto
03-25-2003, 03:53 PM
we only have one girl on our team this year, but she is always helpful in public speakings and such. she's also our student mentor this year and her dad is a great help for our team. i know she does what she can, and learns how everything works

Redhead Jokes
03-25-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by batbotcrewfrosh
Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!

31 students, 9 girls.

15yo Marygrace TIG Welder
18yo Angela Barron Captain, co-driver
18yo Becky accepted into engineering college, co-driver
18yo Tiffany public relations
17yo Breanne painting, spirit, human player
15yo Chelsea machines, working on robot
15yo Veronica painting, spirit
15yo Adriana brand new, has taken auto mechanics
18yo Michelle, working on robot and control board

female captains for the past 3 years, a girl up on the drive team every time.

Gadget470
03-25-2003, 04:15 PM
I think the impact of females is being underestimated. The machinst girls are good at what they do. The PR girls are good at what they do. Same as with the guys.

Whether they are electricians, machinists, number crunchers, or "just do PR" (as has been said) there is still strong impact.

I wouldn't be on my current team if it wasn't for one of the PR girls, and I don't think we could have won Engineering Inspiration at GLR if it weren't for the many projects she and the other girls that did PR did.

There are a lot of jobs that need done and it doesn't really matter what gender fills the job. It just happens that more guys than girls want to do the "dirty work" but it's always accepted when they want to jump in.

One girl on our team moved from PR to working on the mill. Another went from PR to helping me with pnuematics. Another from PR to working on the electronics box and control box.

Just because a girl is doing PR or something not "robot building" doesn't really matter. They are just as important. If nobody knows who you are, what you won't be important to anyone else.

Jeff Waegelin
03-25-2003, 04:25 PM
We have 23 members, 7 of whom are girls. Two of our captains, three of our best build team members, and two of our drive team members are girls. Not all our girls are very active, but most are, and the ones who are are crucial to our team.

Redhead Jokes
03-25-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Gadget470
I think the impact of females is being underestimated. The machinst girls are good at what they do. The PR girls are good at what they do. Same as with the guys.
Whether they are electricians, machinists, number crunchers, or "just do PR" (as has been said) there is still strong impact.
I wouldn't be on my current team if it wasn't for one of the PR girls, and I don't think we could have won Engineering Inspiration at GLR if it weren't for the many projects she and the other girls that did PR did.


I agree.
Our TIG welder is responsible for getting the most girls to the team. They don't know they'd be interested. After the fact we find that some of the them have a knack for the "dirty work" they didn't know they had.

We won Engineering Inspiration Award in Phoenix because we have a weekly open house that's been featured in AOL Digital City as #3 pick for Kids and Family in LA. When the public drops in they see the 2003 Animation of the game, the 2001 video of our national championship, our storyboards, our straw and cardboard drive train prototype, our 2001 championship robot, the kids ride on the goal the robot can grab, kids and adults drive the robot. People from as far as an hour away came. I can still hear the father, "This trip was SO worth it!"

Tiffany, public relations, is in particular excellent at PR, talking at all our exhibitions. I remember Veronica surprising all of us talking easily to the public at the TRW Open House (@1000 employees and their families) touring a room about our program.

Our painter, Breanne, is in particular undervalued. Some on the team say, "why spend all that time". She's not undervalued to me. She painted our facilities cupboards (http://www.bcrobotics.org/20022003/publicrelations/pressreleases/images/redoingautoshop2thumbnail.jpg) , her designs are on our tool cupboards (http://www.bcrobotics.org/20022003/publicrelations/pressreleases/images/redoingautoshop3thumbnail.jpg) , all sides and top of our crate (http://www.bcrobotics.org/2003/2003photos.htm) .

Everytime her painting brightens my spirit, teaches others, current, and new team members who we are (surfing was introduced to US in Redondo, 2 rival teams on one robotics' team).

Josh Hambright
03-25-2003, 05:03 PM
The girls on our team ROCK! (And i'm not just saying that to win brownie points...)

Lemme think. Our PR coordinator is a college student and her team is made up of 2 college females and one high school male.

One of our Technical Co-Coordinators is a lady, she was the person who ran the team but wanted to have more hands on control so she took that position this year.
On the technical team we have another girl.

We have 1 girl on our IT team who worked extensively on the animation this year. I think she was doing modeling and making textures, and considering she came in like a week before build season she picked up on everything really fast!

On the technical team we have 4 girls. 1 is on the electrical/pneumatics/controls/programming team and she is our trainy this year so that when we graduate she can take over for us. We have 1 girl on our team who has extensivly worked on our robot for the last 3 year and is a master on the lathe. And we have another girl on the tech team that does alot of work all over the robot. And the last technical girl is also our human player and a member of our scouting team, she has been on the team for 3 years also and does alot of work, i know she did some work doing angle brackets this year:) All of the technical girls did extensive work on Inventor and are all fluent in CAD.

Our girls do just as much as the boys and alot more then some of them.

Alex Salomonsky
03-25-2003, 05:07 PM
My team has 3 girls out of i think 15 members (we're kinda small). One only joined for spirit purposes, wasn't forced to do spirit. Another one brought Sobes for everyone and played HP one round at comp ( don't remind me ), and also came in on most saturdays, when some guys never came. the third was the only returning girl we had the previous year, she was a veteran leader, CAD drawer, historian, and actually helped "swiss cheese" sprockets which impressed the male mentors. the girls on are team are more helpful than some of the guys, and they were great to have around when i get tired of hearing the guys talk about their computers, i'm more of a sports person myself. I hope next year more girls will join, cuz we view everyone equal ( though the freshmen don't feel that way )

Etbitmydog
03-25-2003, 05:14 PM
My school, University of Central Florida, recently had an artical in the school newspaper where they talked about women in male dominated science fields. (somebody brought up something about intimidation above) One former female engineering student actually said that the reason she quit was because she felt intimidated by the fact that there were so many men around. I wonder why this doesn't happen in the college of education where the ration of men to women is 1 to 5?! I still havn't heard of a man being intimidated by too many women around. Anyways, I think that does an injustice to some of the women I know in engineering who are much smarter than the guys and put in a lot of work to earn the place they've gotten to. I seriously doubt there is any intimidation by having a lot of guys around and it's a cop out to blame quiting engineering on us men rather than themselves for not trying hard enough in this very challanging field.

From what I think, and what I did see on my former robotics team, is that there are just as many women in RATIO that put in the same amount of work in a project as a guy does. What I'm trying to say is, on a team with 50 guys and 10 girls about 25 guys do work and 5 girls do work. The same ratio 1/2 puts in work on the robot and the rest seem to be tag alongs. (just my personaly observation from my old team but I'm sure this can be disproven case by case). It just seems like the guys are doing more work on the team because obviously there are more of us to go around.

:confused:

Sophey Chan
03-25-2003, 05:41 PM
Well, I am the only girl on a team of three. And lets just say, I am probably the most active member of the team, even though it is my first year and one of the guys second. At the beginning of the comp, I did recording of the kickoff, even though I wasn't in town, did the check list, and all that fun jazz, helped design the robot, come up with quick fixes, build it, sanded, drilled, did invetory, am a cheerleader, Mentor to University, team socialist (ask Suike on 312, haha) electrics, helped with programming, did driving, operating the lift, Human Player. I basically do anything you can do. I did the wiring, crimping, pricings, designing, web site (thoguht my teach hasn't put it up yet), wriote the Award essays we went for, and all the fun stuff...needless to say the girl on this team does everything, hee, they have called it my robot at times...odd, neh?

Jacqui Sutton
03-25-2003, 06:00 PM
We have 13 girls, 9 guys.. students that is - and teachers we have 4 female, and like 6 male. Of the 13 girls, 9 are primarily on PR, although we do see most of them from time to time while we're working on the robot.. the other 4 girls are on both PR and Engineering, -- im lucky enough to be in this group, it's insane when you spend that many hours working on the robot and then any remote spare hours you may have are spent with PR, and then there's always the meetings that cause scheduling conflicts.. I love it that way! And 8 of our guys are solely on engineering, we have 1 who helped PR with the chairmans award :) It works out well, everyone on our team is somehow involved in every committee a little, and the girls on our team are definately just as big of a part of the team as any of the others - so when people claim PR doesnt do anything, we just show them our chairmans award trophy :-) the neatest thing is that everyone on our team is somewhat involved in every part, and we all know how hard each faction works so there's a huge respect shared between all our team members, guys and girls, students and mentors...gender isnt a qualification for anything on our team, and i think thats how it should be~!
- jacqui, team 388

mtaman02
03-25-2003, 06:12 PM
When I was on a FIRST team the coaches made it very very clear that the girls on the team may help out in every area and aspect of the team. Whether it was building the robot, doing scouting, cheerleading, designing the robot, team logo design etc.

When students join a FIRST team they should not be limited to what they're abilites are but to expand and improve on them !!

Alaina
03-25-2003, 06:38 PM
I'm the first girl to join my team. Actually, my team members said there was a girl last year, but she didn't do anything. This may be my first year on the team but I consider myself a valuable member. I helped as much as I could with Spicy and I'm one of the arm controllers (we made two teams out of 6 people :p). And I don't do anymore cheering than the guys...I would feel guilty if I just hung around and did nothing for Spicy...

kristen
03-25-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by soezgg
6 of 25 students on our team are girls.

Generally speaking, on our team, most of them dont do anything.

But 2 of the cool ones do quite a bit of machining and handiwork.

The problem is, none of them take real initiative to do any of the design work, or fundraising or chairmans stuff. One of the parents on the team blame it on intimidation, most of us guys are pretty scary I guess.

I am trying to make them do more work and get involved, but its hard, Im not quite sure that they have the desire to learn, and if they dont, they are on the team for the wrong reasons.


Remember Steve... all of us girls are completely competent ;P

srjjs
03-25-2003, 08:27 PM
We have 27 students, 7 of whom are girls.

Unlike many other teams, we have guys with uncannily neat writing and freshmen with small hands, so they are not irreplacebly important.

narenr
03-25-2003, 09:47 PM
We have 5 girls on our team of about 20. They are all very active. 3 of them literally grab tools out of guys' hands because they want and love to work on the robot. It's really funny to see a guy who thinks he can do a job well fail miserably and watch one of the girls take over and execute the task flawlessly. The other two girls have no interest in building the robot, but they help by doing all of the little, non-building tasks. In addition, they help monitor the robot's weight by weighing every single part before we put it on the robot and entering the numbers in an Excel spreadsheet. Lastly, the girls keep the guys in check. They keep us from being too stupid or from doing anything too stupid. Sort of like our conscience.

AlbertW
03-26-2003, 04:01 AM
We've got like 5 girls on our team, out of 20 or so active members. We're actually really gender-neutral when it comes to assigning jobs, mostly basing the meniality of the job on your grade ::cough::freshmen::cough:: than your gender.

3 of the girls are on the mechanical team, one willingly does spirit (we'd rather she not do it because she tends to come up with whacky ideas and makes us use them,) and one is sort of out in space.

and then theres the time when they complained cause we had everyone bending rods, cept they said they were too weak :p


so yeah. gender stuff on our team is pretty balanced (cept for the ratio. hm. we hafta fix that.)

LAST year it was a different story. (we were doing botball)

there were like 5 kids total, 4 guys and a girl, and since you can only effectively fit 3 people around a 1 ft^3 robot, and have one person programming, there were 3 guys around the robot (either got there first, or shoved their way in,) one at the computer, and we'd the girl would just sort of wander around not doing anything, eventually settling on the task of throwing legos at our heads :]

so. yeah. :D

Madison
03-26-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Etbitmydog
One former female engineering student actually said that the reason she quit was because she felt intimidated by the fact that there were so many men around. I wonder why this doesn't happen in the college of education where the ration of men to women is 1 to 5?! I still havn't heard of a man being intimidated by too many women around. Anyways, I think that does an injustice to some of the women I know in engineering who are much smarter than the guys and put in a lot of work to earn the place they've gotten to. I seriously doubt there is any intimidation by having a lot of guys around and it's a cop out to blame quiting engineering on us men rather than themselves for not trying hard enough in this very challanging field.

Welcome to Male Privilege 101.

The glass ceiling still exists most everywhere, and old-school ideas of gender roles are still very well entrenched. Things in the world aren't as equal opportunity and peachy keen as people would like to think they are.

Males, largely, are oblivious to this. They don't understand the privilege they experience just because they're male, and they very wrongly assume that everyone else is afforded the same opportunity for advancement, error, or experimentation.

Males don't feel as intimidated in a college of education because education (especially pre-university level) is still considered to be women's work. Women's work is inferior work, requiring less strength, intelligence, and time. Yes, it sounds archaic, and you may not find many men who are still willing to admit feeling that way, but the sentiment does exist.

I agree that it's tempting to blame trying to break into a male-dominated field for one's failure, but I don't think it's fair to immediately assume that's the case. Until you've been on the other side of the fence, I don't think you'll ever be able to truly comprehend the immense strength and hard work and perseverance it takes to make it. To assume that you have any idea is really nothing more than that same male privilege rearing its ugly head.

Sure, if you don't understand something right away, you can try and try and try until you get it, and you can do so without facing an endless wall of discrimination and scour. Women aren't afforded that same luxury. The standards they're held to are much more limiting, much more strict, and far less forgiving.

Be careful next time you try to speak about things you don't really know all that much about. Until you've experienced it, it's a bit arrogant to think you understand it.

Team238-aholic
03-26-2003, 10:27 AM
I'll admit when I was on the team 3 years ago...i knew absolutely nothing about how to build the robot....

I was always involved in fundraising, chairmans, shirt design, buttons...you name it...i did it...lol

But I was also the president of the team...even though I didnt know how to build the robot, I still helped out a great deal...


I think the team now has a few girls that have been helping out with the building of the robot and such...but then theres a few girls who are like me and just like the fundraising and other things....but as long as they help out the team...i say it doesn't matter what the girls do....

BandChick
03-26-2003, 10:39 AM
At Hightstown I am the only girl...of approximately 13. at first, i will admit it was pretty intimidating. I didn't fit in as all the guys talked about what video games they had played last night, including our advisor. but, as time passed, i blended in with them. i worked just as hard actually doing the building & driving as anyone else. I also manage our website (which i might add was comepletely built by me as well) and do some PR. That's pretty much shared amongst all of us, though. I wrote the Chairman's Essay & designed the logo for out t-shirts. So, as far as girls are concerned, i worked just as hard, if not harder than the other guys on our team.

Doesn't mean i don't love them though ;)

the doors
03-26-2003, 12:48 PM
As team captain of Cyber Blue, I like to think that we as a team look at members solely for their own individual talents. We choose the best person for the job regardless of their gender. Our male to female ratio is 13:9 and everyone plays an important role.

angier314
03-26-2003, 02:22 PM
out of 30 team members (not including coaches ) team 314
has 6 girls on communications, chairman's and spirit and we have 2 girls on the build crew which at one compatition also drove the robot. ( i am one of them) :D

it is fun being on a build crew that has mostly guys. :D

hixofthehood
03-26-2003, 04:19 PM
The girls on our team are either working on intel, software, electrical, spirit, fundraising, awards, animation, robot/field fabrication, photography, web design... you know, girl stuff.

Koko Ed
03-26-2003, 05:02 PM
The X-Cats have 20 girls and they all contribute to all aspects of the team.

srjjs
03-26-2003, 07:37 PM
With all of this gender imbalance, have any teams considered or implemented affirmative action-type things?

BandChick
03-26-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by hixofthehood
you know, girl stuff.

ok, forgive me if this is a little scathing...

what exactly is "girl stuff!??" as far as i know, i can work just as hard hammering together & screwing together a frame as any other guy on our team. at the beginning i was like "um...build a robot...heh" but seriously, once you learn about it, the "girl" thing is indifferent. so, it's not girl stuff, it's really about what you're interested in. i know that my advisor (who is a guy) said that his idea of an enjoyable weekend was not taking apart and reassembling a car, but that sounded like a lot of fun for me. so, what's with this discriminatory stuff? just because girls tend to be a bit more creative doesn't mean that they can't get dirty.

hey, i've got more grease and spray paint on my clothes than most of the guys...

Madison
03-26-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by BandChick
just because girls tend to be a bit more creative doesn't mean that they can't get dirty.


Let's be sure not to swing the pendulum too far to one side, okay?

Sophey Chan
03-26-2003, 08:06 PM
::Adds her two cents...well one, I am poor::


Well, in all actuality, on my team, there is no, the guys are better, he girls are better. Basically our team consists of me and my friend Matt. Lords knows I have done more work than him (he has called it my Robot before) but I don't say that. True I crack on the guys a lot, ask Oak Ridge or our Mentors, but we bot have the sae capabilities, itis just a matter of whether or not we use them. I am better at Matt at a lot of the manual labor stuff, but I woulda bee lost the first week without his knowledge, evey team ha equal cotribuaions from guys and girls in my opinion, no matter what they do, it is equally important. Cheerleading, building, or whatever the case may be...


And it i prooven girls are more creative, I won't deny that, but still, lookat who came upwith ost of the designs for the robot..the guys usually, and yes, I am a girl, so that is saying a lot giving guys props there, haha

Rich Kressly
03-26-2003, 08:18 PM
You can meet all of the 2002-03 student members of Cybersonics and learn their team roles here:
http://www.cybersonics.org/cybersonics/team103/members.asp

We have 33 student members (counting our two Middle School students), 15 are female and are represented in every department and aspect of our team operations.

BandChick
03-26-2003, 08:24 PM
ok, i will give you that the guys work hard too, i'm not disputing that. c'mon, without the guys we probably wouldn't be mercury...or have the purple monkey joke...

we also wouldn't have the idea of grips to rotate boxes (i actually wasn't there for that). the statement wasn't about who was better, just that there shouldn't be discrimination about it. guys or girls, we all work together, don't we?

Alaina
03-26-2003, 08:25 PM
I can't go to SVR tomorrow because I'm the only girl on the team and we couldn't find a female chaperone for tomorrow...It really sucks because I'm arm controller half the time...*shrugs* I'm just saying that there could be some disadvantages...

Cory
03-26-2003, 08:55 PM
Why do you need a female chaperone? Are you guys staying overnight at SVR, or driving down. If youre staying overnight, I could see the need for a female chaperone.

Cory

Alaina
03-26-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Cory
Why do you need a female chaperone? Are you guys staying overnight at SVR, or driving down. If youre staying overnight, I could see the need for a female chaperone.

Cory
We're staying over, the drive is too long.
Why couldn't I have just stayed in a room alone or something?! :(

Etbitmydog
03-26-2003, 10:39 PM
Reply to M Krass

I took it upon myself to actually ask my women engineering friends if they ever felt any intimidation (and even any discrimination) by being in engineering because they were women. I, according to you, am obviously oblivious to this discrimination against women because I am male, so why not ask those who would experience this discrimination first hand. Not a one said that they felt intimidated or discriminated against because they were women in a mostly male field. They thought it was funny that I even asked! In fact, they actually agreed with me that their female peer probably did need some excuse for getting out of a field where the drop out ratio exceeds 2/3! Maybe, according to you, they (my female engineering student friends) are arrogant too because they havn't "experienced" any discrimination.

Contrary to what you seem to believe, men arn't telling them that they should go to what you call "inferior" work. As much as you believe that the male population is creating this glass ceiling over women, NOT ALL OF US ARE! Especially not at UCF. (and if it exist, it's rare) The fact that there are few women in engineering doesn't automatically justify your theory that men are creating this "glass ceiling", limiting their opportunities in the work force. Fact of the matter is, many women prefer other fields of study. I've met women who were exceptionally good at math and science, some better than me, but just didn't have as much interest in things like engineering as they do in other fields. They didn't deter from it because there are more men in the field or because society told them to do something else.

And as far as this discrimination that I and my fellow female engineering colleagues are not seeing, where is it? You very pompously said you had to face endless discrimination. It's funny how it's endless yet we barley notice it. The college of engineering is just like any other college. You go to class, you learn, you take a test. How do you expect us to discriminate against a women here? Are the male teachers giving them unfairly lower grades because they see a women's name on the paper? Really!!

AlbertW
03-27-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by BandChick
ok, forgive me if this is a little scathing...

what exactly is "girl stuff!??" as far as i know, i can work just as hard hammering together & screwing together a frame as any other guy on our team. at the beginning i was like "um...build a robot...heh" but seriously, once you learn about it, the "girl" thing is indifferent. so, it's not girl stuff, it's really about what you're interested in. i know that my advisor (who is a guy) said that his idea of an enjoyable weekend was not taking apart and reassembling a car, but that sounded like a lot of fun for me. so, what's with this discriminatory stuff? just because girls tend to be a bit more creative doesn't mean that they can't get dirty.

hey, i've got more grease and spray paint on my clothes than most of the guys...

looking at his original post, it sounds like he was joking. he listed like every task you COULD have done on a team ;)

Amanda M
03-27-2003, 05:47 PM
I am a member of Team 60, and I am one of the people that does a lot of work. I have done PR, Machining, I memorized the rule book, helped with the website, and done TONS more.

What about the guys?

I mean, yeah, sometimes girls don't do much, but I am sure that there are boys on teams that don't do anything either. I know that there are some on OUR team.

I don't think it's a matter of gender.

I think it's a matter of dedication.

And if the girls on your teams think that robots are too masculine, then that's their choice. As a girl, I wouldn't rather be doing anything else. I am all about robotics, and I am sure that there are others that are like me


Amanda

Alaina
03-27-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Amanda M
As a girl, I wouldn't rather be doing anything else. I am all about robotics, and I am sure that there are others that are like me
I agree totally. My life revolves around robotics. I would much rather get into this than cheerleading or choir or anything else school can offer.

Amanda M
03-27-2003, 08:55 PM
I've been there... Cheerleading AND Choir.

This has them both beat into the ground.

BandChick
03-27-2003, 08:59 PM
nothing wrong with that...i've maintained my "girly" side...hell, i'm a flute player, that's gotta say something.

but as it goes, robotics is a close second to marching band...although comfort wise there's no contest.

Amanda M
03-27-2003, 09:11 PM
I actually quit Marching band for Robotics.

But I think that robotics teams need girls. If they don't have them, then how do you get that feminine touch on spirit stuff and pit decorations and design? I think that we are very useful!

Alaina
03-27-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by BandChick
nothing wrong with that...i've maintained my "girly" side...hell, i'm a flute player, that's gotta say something.

but as it goes, robotics is a close second to marching band...although comfort wise there's no contest.
I play violin. :D
And I wouldn't quit orchestra for anything...I'd die without my music. But that's super kool you're in marching band. I love my school's band.

Pin Man
03-29-2003, 09:30 PM
There are not a lot of girls on our team but they play a huge role... We want more girls to get involved...

Greg
03-30-2003, 02:17 PM
We only have one girl on our team, but our team is very small (about 15 people). She actually does a lot of work on the bot, including design, assembly, and even aluminum welding, as well as PR. Go Catherine!

Alaina
03-30-2003, 02:24 PM
On the way home from SVR, we were talking about giving individual awards to individual team members. And Cooney was like "What should we give Alaina?" Then Benjie said "The Girl Award!" Then everyone laughed and thought it was a good idea...So I added, "No, how about Putting Up With Being The Only Girl Because It Can Really Be Crap Award?" Which is much more fitting...
It was very difficult coming on the second day, and totally being left out on dinner and hangning out with other teams in the hotel, and rooming 2 buildings away from everyone in the same hotel, and being the last to arrive in the pits the next morning because nobody told me when to be ready and they left without me...
Hopefully next year I can get another girl to join.

codeoftherobot
03-30-2003, 02:25 PM
our team has no girls whatsoever. it's an all guy school. however we have a close partnership with a fellow all-girl school who introduced FIRST to us. so in a sense when combined, our teams have about 50-50 for guys and girls. what's funny is that the two regionals we were at, we were always in the pit area right next to each other.

Linda Westrick
03-30-2003, 10:12 PM
I'm the only girl on my team this year, although we've had more girls in the past. I don't really think of myself as female any more than I think of my friends as male, as far as robotics is concerned. It's like being ridiculously tall or having curly hair or not liking pizza or being addicted to vitamin C: we're all unique. We identify ourselves with what we love - robotics - and not with physical differences. Our team size is 12. My role on the team is head of programming and electronics.

So aside from the classic electronics banter ("Hey you! Bring me a male!"), gender isn't a big issue on our team. I don't know if our female scarcity should be an issue. It'd be nice if there were more girls on our team. Then again, it'd be nice if there were more guys too, and more tall people, and more curly-haired people, and more C addicts, and everything else . . .

I have never experienced the "glass ceiling" from men. However, I have met prejudice from a surprising source: women. I was made rather angry at nationals last year when I, elbow deep in the electronics, was asked by a female judge if I had designed the team logo. Later that day another lady asked me if I had made the team hats. There is nothing wrong with making logos and hats, but none of the guys on my team were asked such questions. It was interesting because the people asking me these questions were all female. I have never had a male assume that I do non-technical stuff just because I'm a girl.

yelly
03-30-2003, 11:00 PM
I'm the only girl on our team of 10. Let's see... what do I do? I design and maintain our website, strategy (the only one), scouting, and I did the chairman's award. When I'm not doing that, I try to help with the robot.

I do a lot for my team; however, I encountered a HUGE problem at regionals this past week. I debated about whether or not I should tell the story, because I didn't want to make my team look bad... but I sort of want everyone's opinion on what I can do about it, because I was extremely offended.

One of our two mentors (and we have no engineer) is an ex-marine who has a completely old-fashioned view of gender roles. He believes that women can not and should not do any sort of labor or manual work, basically. I didn't really know that he felt this way until regionals when we were in close proximity. Every time I attempted to do something in the pit (we had a very cranky, breaking robot), he'd take it away from me or yell at a guy to do it. Now I KNOW that's not in the spirit of FIRST, at all. I confronted him about it, and he still doesn't understand how incredibly insulting and belittling it is when he acts like this. He will continue to treat me like a frail little girl who can't even carry a 5 pound tool box. Short of throwing a temper tantrum in the pits so that every other team will see what a chauvinistic man he is (which I almost did, but then thought better of it), what can I do?

Amanda M
03-30-2003, 11:23 PM
Wow! That's not very nice... I don't know what to do. What I would do is talk to him about it rationally. Wait for a while and calm down about it, and tell him HONESTLY and EARNESTLY how you feel. If he doesn't get the picture, then he's a lost cause. >.<

You could also get it on tape and then show him..
It'll be like, "Hey! You're on candid camera!"

I'll keep thinking about it...

-Amanda

Redhead Jokes
03-30-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by yelly
One of our two mentors (and we have no engineer) is an ex-marine who has a completely old-fashioned view of gender roles.

Reminds me of something that happened years ago.

I was standing in line at the cash register, my purchases on the conveyor belt. Out of the corner of my eye I saw a guy put stuff down to buy, and I reached over and got a divider to put behind my stuff. He LOL and said, "What? You don't want to buy my stuff?" I looked and saw the case of beer.

*chuckle* I'm not always so quick on my feet, but I good naturedly responded quickly, "You want to buy mine?!?"

The older obviously big macho military type quickly checked out my purchases (tampons and pads), turned beet red and couldn't speak.

HolyMasamune
03-31-2003, 12:52 AM
on our team the girls worked on the drivetrain and did pr stuff

Gobiner
03-31-2003, 02:45 AM
On our team of about 14, we have 3 girls, and I'm 98% certain that those 3 girls are intimidated by their male counterparts. This is our second year, and we have 3 people returning from last year. We 3 guys are from the general 'smart kid' caste, so everyone on the team (I think) is intimidated to some degree. The problem is:
a. We have limited skill in social situations (I'll admit it)
b. We have previous experience in this application of engineering
c. Most of the other team members don't
So, we can't really empathize with the situation of the other team members, and we have difficulty including them (we're a pretty cohesive group). As someone mentioned earlier, the girls seem to lack initiative (in our case most of the team has that symptom) but I think it spawns from the intimidating nature of our team.
Anyway, just one guy's take on the issue during a period of late night rambling.

EDIT: We forced our girls to work on the robot. Our speedy box flipper was the work of two girls. Two are seniors, and they tend to do PR type stuff, and our sophomore worked on the robot more (she's the younger daughter of aforementioned 'smart kid' so she's probably less intimidated).
EDIT2: I'm less coherent than I had thought.

Pin Man
03-31-2003, 04:00 PM
jeeze a lot of teams dont have like any girls on the team...

Melissa H.
03-31-2003, 04:09 PM
We have only 4 girls on our team...then again...our team only has 10 people...:p

Amanda M
03-31-2003, 04:51 PM
Our team had a problem with initative.... then we fixed it.

We started out the year with 43 people and now have 18.

But, strangely, the people who quit were mostly boys. Of course, there were more boys that joined in the first place, but most of the girls stuck with it.

We girls do a lot, we didn't only stick with it, but we also worked our bums off.

Shanan
03-31-2003, 05:40 PM
We're the only all-girls team in Canada right now. We have about 25 students on our team, and I think we surprised quite a few teams with our robot!

Alaina
03-31-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Pin Man
jeeze a lot of teams dont have like any girls on the team...
*nods* Next year there will be *gasp* two girls on my team! w00t!

Pin Man
03-31-2003, 06:01 PM
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow two girls... lol

Alaina
03-31-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Pin Man
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow two girls... lol
Yes indeed...But it's really not that bad considering how small the team is anyway...I mean, next year the team will be smaller than this year. And we have 10 currently...

Pin Man
03-31-2003, 06:33 PM
smaller? dont you recuit many people???

Alaina
03-31-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Pin Man
smaller? dont you recuit many people??? *shrugs* We're small and un-recognized. The team is grateful I've already got one recruit set up for next year. I was talking to one teacher today at school (she noticed my medal and asked me about it) and she insisted we contact the local newspaper...I agree totally. I mean, they had something about our spirit leaders getting 3rd in Nationals but there's nothing about us getting 3 trophies from 2 regionals...
The teacher also made the excellent suggestion of making a robotics booth at both (or at least one) of the major high schools in town at next year's club sign-up day. It could work!

Pin Man
03-31-2003, 07:07 PM
It might work... Just let everyone know what your team does...

Alaina
03-31-2003, 07:13 PM
We build awesome wooden robots that eeeeveryone loves. :D


off-topic edit: I'm a "Frequent Contributor." lol. That's funny.

MattK
03-31-2003, 07:32 PM
I hate to say it but the 5 or so girls on our team really do most of the work... I guess us guys are to lazy :rolleyes: :D

kristen
03-31-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Shanan
We're the only all-girls team in Canada right now. We have about 25 students on our team, and I think we surprised quite a few teams with our robot!


SWAT!!! You guys are cool. Congrats on getting choosen during the alliance pairings in Canada. :)

Actually, there seems to be quite a few girls in FIRST.. or at least I've noticed that to be the case in Annapolis and Canada.

Shanan
03-31-2003, 08:29 PM
Thanks a bunch! You guys rocked the competition too! way to go 639!

SarahBecker
10-04-2003, 12:21 PM
Out of 25 members of our team (716) 13 are girls (2 juniors, the rest either freshman or sophomores). They make up most of our travel team. Someone said before that many of us girls don't have the initiative to do big things... but that's anything but true on our team. Last year i was head scout and also wrote the chairman's award by myself. Another team member, also a girl, and i co-wrote a woody flowers award paper for our engineer. This year i am one of the 2 drivers for our team and my drive team is all girls. My operator has been on the team since we started and she has overcome more than almost anyone on the team, due to the fact that when she began she was the only girl. At our last two off season competitions, our entire pit crew was made up of girls, and when we meet after school, most of the shop is made up of girls... doing most of the building. :yikes: So at your next competition, look for us... we're not as rare as you think!

Wayne C.
10-04-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by batbotcrewfrosh
We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist.

The situation I see is not a matter of what girls are "given" but more of what girls are willing to do. On our team positions are earned based on individual initiative and reliability. We don't set "girl" jobs and "boy" jobs but instead allow whomever to sign up for the positions they are interested in. Each student is required to hold one robot related and one administrative type position.
Right now we have about 7 girls on a team of 45. The newer ones are largely there due to the efforts of our past female members. We simply don't attract lots of girls. Nor do we go out of our way to attract more or give special treatment to those that do join.
I've found that the ladies tend to sign up for more of the PR and administrative kinds of things. We have a bunch of our theatre students who essentially develop and run our Volcano Crew (cheer section). Its fun. It also has a lot of boys on it.

This season we have boy girl teams running the pit area. One girl who will be fabricating with the guys and a bunch of new ones that will be first year scouts.

So girls- don't settle for what the guys "let you have". If they get in your way, kick some 'bot and stand up for yourselves!!




WC
:cool:

PS- sign up for Final Bin Bash 10/25 closes 10/12. Haven't seen those Midwest teams yet. Hmmmmmmm....

DUCKIE
10-04-2003, 08:48 PM
I don't know the final count of our team at the moment... but it is really depressing when you have twelve girls at the September Kick-off meeting... and by the January kick-off there are only three. Since I am now a College Mentor on the team I have been trying my darnedest to keep as many girls as i can in the program.

[I apologize now that this will be a long post.]

I noticed quite a few people have mentioned that the guys on a team can be intimidating... and i wont deny it... It is especially true with MOE because as we have taken to saying this year -> "Welcome to the Cult!" <- because we are so tightly knit, we all wear the same colors, and we do the MOE chant at random times.

I personally am slow to warm-up to new situations, and FIRST was definitely a new "situation." I spent my first year on the team doing PR, Videography, and Mascot with Gwen. Lucky me got to wear the original uppet for three days straight in the Florida Sun. There were like 6 girls on the team my first year, I honestly don't remember what they did... but all i did or knew about the robot that year was I helped spray-paint some parts... and get high on the fumes..., what the grippers and wings did, what a robot should not do during a match, and that we won nationals.

My second year i was SO ready to work on the robot and wanted to be on Pit or Competition team. I took the initiative and started almost religiously following "Lou the Pit Lord" around the first meeting... and REALLY paid attention to the Machine Shop Training and Tutorials. I volunteered to help build our swanky pit just after Christmas, and got used to working on the machines, with our Machinist, and got to know the other guys who i was working with a LOT better. I worked on the Mechanical sub-team under Lou; working on the goal pushers (which we took off during the first competition. nothing like making two difficult pieces... and never getting to use them. I got to keep one though.) I don't think any one was as excited as me when i was voted onto the pit crew. (the first girl to do so if i remember right.) I also was voted co-captain that year. And won one of the ASME scholarships at nationals. A very swanky year for me... even though MOE-Hawk came off the field in pieces after EVERY match!

Last year i did not do as much... since it was hard to commute sometimes... and college work/classes in general. I did make the mascot again though. I hope to do more work with the robot again this year along with taking photos.

It just goes to show that Girls CAN do anything they set their minds to. They don't HAVE to settle for the lower jobs if they don't want them. I try to tell all the girls on the team now that "If there are a bunch of guys working on something... don't be afraid to elbow your way in and find what they are doing, and help."

I do have to give kudos to the guys on MOE though. They are pretty comfortable having a girl in there working with them... i hope other teams are as accepting of girls doing more than PR.

The Lucas
10-05-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by DUCKY
I don't know the final count of our team at the moment... but it is really depressing when you have twelve girls at the September Kick-off meeting... and by the January kick-off there are only three. Since I am now a College Mentor on the team I have been trying my darnedest to keep as many girls as i can in the program.


I only remember one or two girls attending my electrical presentation I had to give to all the new students are required to attend. That would make the team count 3 or 4. I could be mistaken since there are many new students and most of them are quiet. Also some people might have missed that meeting.

It is a shame if we have so few girls again since I remember many more at the kickoff. We do actively try to recruit more girls since we give presentations at many of all-girl schools in the area even if we do not have any current team members attending that school.

Alaina
10-05-2003, 11:03 PM
At Cal Games a couple of weeks ago my team brought 5 girls, 4 of them new. We really, really, really hope to recruit more members for 2004.

Justin Stiltner
10-06-2003, 04:58 PM
24 students
6 male
18 female
there are females on every sub team.. however what they do has yet to be seen.
the way our program is set up well was set up we had a rookie team of students every year. but this year we started accepting grades 9-12.

BBFIRSTCHICK
10-06-2003, 08:32 PM
well last year there were a total of 12 kids on our team....
The number of girls were 8.
The girls on our team had loads of experience from FIRST due to previous years and other robotic compositions
2 of our girls were the main team welders (im one of them. my friend and myself were the main welders on our previous FIRST team as well, that contained about 50 kids)
Another 2 were our main programmers
... we were just all around.... we did a good amount of work

akaria
03-09-2004, 07:47 PM
I don’t know about other girls involved in FIRST but when I first entered the club(this is my fourth year) I faced a lot of discrimination, no one would listen to my ideas until I told the one guy on my team that would listen to me and then when he presented it everyone thought it was great. But after a while of being loud and noticeable others started taking me seriously. Some of the problem was that the other girls only did PR. But now I am the field captain, head strategist, one of the head drive train people and do more that anyone else on the wiring. It took awhile but they came around.

ArJubx
03-09-2004, 08:12 PM
Our team of 13 only has one girl, unless you count our primary mentor, our AP Physics C teacher. Then again since it was a class project, and only 2 girls are in the class (year started off with 3 but one moved to texas) and this was not a required thing, only 1 chose to do robotics. Honestly tho, she has been a great help to the team, not really getting down to the nitty gritty of robot building (not many guys did either), but a help everywhere else, especially at fundraising. She is also one our co-drivers, which handles our ball collection and control systems. All in all she has outworked (time devotion) probably all but 2 students on our team, myself and our chief builder (man he spent a few nights there just by himself in the early days, I felt so bad afterwards). Did she felt left out? Probably on the building part, but I must admit she was an integral part of our small team. My props go out to Kelly (known as itskelz here).

Pin Man
03-09-2004, 08:14 PM
the past couple of years we have had girls as captains of the team... I don't know... We go with who's best for the job... Lately more girls have shown interest in the team... hehhehehehe I don't mind that!!!!

Vince lau
03-09-2004, 08:18 PM
I'm mentoring an all girls school here in Toronto, in the Canadian regionals there will be 3 all girls schools competing

Jay H 237
03-09-2004, 08:18 PM
The girls on our team aren't strictly PR and fundraising. They do some of the machining (using the mills, lathes), they also did some of the soldering of the electronics, and they also helped build our test playing field in the woodshop. We don't discriminate, basically if they want to do it we let them. We don't want them to feel left out and not part of the group. I worked with one of them, who hadn't had much experience with tools, in the woodshop building the playing field this season and now she's interested in taking woodshop next year.

Meredith Rice
03-09-2004, 08:25 PM
I'm mentoring an all girls school here in Toronto, in the Canadian regionals there will be 3 all girls schools competing

What teams are they? I am always interested to learn what other all girl teams are out there, as I am from one myself, team 433. It would be nice though if there was some way to sort through all the FIRST teams to see what teams are all girls.

Charley
03-09-2004, 08:36 PM
Our team (#1350... rookies this year) had 2 females out of about 17 students.

I am one of those females, and I must say that I do alot of speaking/ orginizing/ strategizing/ accounting on the team. This isn't because I'm a girl, just more because I have no building experience what so ever.

People on the team help each other, and I think I do my part to help out, though I'm not always sure if everyone else agrees.

They usually say I do the B**** work, because if no one else wants to do something, I will. I don't mind doing crappy little jobs, once again, because I don't really know how to do alot of building.

I learned alot of programming and electrical this year, and next year, by default of being an orginized Junior, I'm captain.

Kaelia
03-09-2004, 09:44 PM
Glad to see this topic still kicking ^_^ I'm from the same team as the topic starter...I was approached by a scout from some team who was very surprised that our team put a girl in as high a position as a *gasp* driver! I kind of chuckled and told her that we didn't really have much say in the matter =P

On that note, though, I didn't notice very many female drivers (not counting human players or strategists) at VCU...head count?

bigqueue
03-09-2004, 10:15 PM
Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!


If I remember correctly, we have 7 female students on the team. Two of them are in Manufacturing, three in Marketing, one on the CAD team, and one in Controls.

Two of the MFG gals ended up on our PIT team at the regionals.

-Quentin

Heretic121
03-10-2004, 06:49 AM
our team has 3 girls out of about 20 students... 1 is co-spirit leader w/ one of the guys... 1 is co-captian and manipulator, and the other one is the backup manipulator... so they do take a pretty big role on our team...

Gui Cavalcanti
03-10-2004, 09:42 AM
We have two primary drivers, me and Jana.

Erin and Bess are skilled machinists. Erin's also our only human player.

Linda's project manager for the robot.

Our team has 4 girls on a team of around 12 to 15 people total. Anybody can do whatever they take the initiative to do, no matter what it is.

Ryan Morin
03-10-2004, 11:13 AM
I'm not exactly sure how many girls are on our team i think its around 10. but for the most part the girls on our team do what they want to do. Some do the scouting for the drive team, some cheer for us and the other teams competing, we have two that are on construction and for that they are on our drive team, one is one of the best human players I saw in NJ and the other is the co-driver and is great at what she does too. But for the most part the girls on our team are very involved in what's going on. Its some of the guys that we have to worry about. :rolleyes:

Zimee
03-10-2004, 01:16 PM
Actually, the final tally of girls (students, not including mentors) on MOE is 4... then again, when there's about 30 some people on the team, I guess that's not saying much. However, all things considered, I think we do some pretty important work. 2 of us (myself and mi amiga Mel) hooked up the entire pneumatics system on GizMOE(Hence, we are the Pneumatics/Pneumo Chicks). Another girl is on the autonomous team (which also happens to be mentored by a woman) and the other girl is on video team (much as I hate the boom mike, I'll admit they do important work).

skrussel
03-10-2004, 01:39 PM
OOOPS! Jason....6 out of 13 are girls!!! they did wiring, construction, and carpentry. :rolleyes:



4 out of 10 students are girls on our team. One does all of the web work, organizes team parties, one does most of the electrical stuff, wiring, etc., one does all of the writing, typing, and cheering for the team, and the last one represents our team by being the team mascot, and does a variety of stuff.

Meanwhile, I did some animation, some work on the crate for the robot, some wiring, some programming, and quite a bit of construction.

I guess you could say that everyone on our whole team did something constructive throughout build period, and outside of build period.

MOEmaniac
03-10-2004, 02:29 PM
in my opinion girls are necessary on a team because their point of view on things can be different than wat guys would normally think. so my answere is yes i think they should be on almost if not all teams :)

Trinora
03-10-2004, 02:57 PM
Team 237 is lucky; of around our 30 members, a little less than half are women. One major part was the "little sister" factor, but these girls who have been raised on FIRST have proved as if not more capable than their male counterparts. Though the majoirty of girls are sophomores and juniors, they are found on every aspect of the team. Our pneumatics team is almost exsclusively female, and most of our electrical team as well. In fact, only two members, both female, were fundraising and PR. Autodesk was completely female, as is Scouting, and the single member of Strategy.

I don't see women and men anymore, just the aweseme people who helped make our 10 foot tall baby. Sure, it can be intimidating, but that is why the older girls make an effort to help the younger ones feel more comfrotable. The grunt and burp masculine air of the team has only made us more tolerant and able to expell gas with the best of them.

Vince lau
03-10-2004, 10:25 PM
What teams are they? I am always interested to learn what other all girl teams are out there, as I am from one myself, team 433. It would be nice though if there was some way to sort through all the FIRST teams to see what teams are all girls.

Canadian all girls teams that i know of

771 - St. Mildred's-Lightbourn School
1275 - Havergal College
1291 - St. Clement's School

JohnBoucher
03-12-2004, 04:06 AM
Team 237 has always had strong female leadership. It was an important element from the start. On this team, anyone can do anything.

Aignam
03-12-2004, 05:27 AM
This year in the pits, two of the girls with initiative controlled Battery Crew. Both held jobs absolutely essential to the team's performace on the field. Both did absolutely wonderful jobs. I couldn't pick anyone on the team to do the job better.

Joshua May
03-12-2004, 07:47 AM
We have 3 girls on our team out of 17. Two of our girls work mainly on PR, and the third (my sister) works with PR but stepped up greatly to work with machining, she has even earned the name 'Drillmaster'.

Libby Ritchie
03-13-2004, 06:33 PM
We have a lot of girls on our team, though we have had many more in years past. However, I think a big part of that has to do with the fact that I am the team coordinator/leader and I'm female. The girls see that if I can run this team, they surely can contribute to the team and they have done very well.

I have a student team coordinator that is a girl (Stefanie Keffaber, 11th grade) and she has been a team leader for two years. She holds the highest ranking position for a student on the team as she oversees ALL of our sub-teams. (Sub teams include manufacturing, CAD, animation, chairmen's, and web) She is one of our best on the manufacturing team and has much influence, input, and actual build time on our robot.

In addition to Stef, we have four girls on the web team (on a team of five), five girls on the chairmen's team (out of five), and just Stef this year on manufacturing.

Like many others have said, it doesn't matter if they aren't directly working on the robot...the girls involved are making career choices that have been inspired by involvement with FIRST, they are marketing our team to sponsors and helping me find funds, and doing a LOT of work that must be done in order for this team to survive.

adventrx327
03-13-2004, 07:39 PM
Our team is pretty small, and we have only 4-5 girls on our team. THey do help contribute milling, drilling, soldering, etc., but I dont think we involve them quite as much as we should. Partially this is due to a lack of knowledge of the actual electronic components (etc. spike vs victor, difference in relay vs pwm output, etc), but next year we will focus on EDUCATION for the first part of the year.

But guess what? Our mentor that helped me learn C (well, machine based) was a woman (i guess a girl because she's reallly young)!!!

Bridgette
03-13-2004, 09:53 PM
I'm one of three girls on my team, and at most meetings, I was the only girl there. I helped with electrical work, wrote our team's Chairman's Award with one of the other girls on the team. I'm also co-captain and manipulator. I was the only girl at most meetings, but I didn't let that stop me from doing anything. It wasn't too hard for me to become part of the team because my brother has been on 121 for 4 years and I know most of the other team members from school. I haven't experienced any discrimination other than good-natured teasing. It's hard to relate to the guys sometimes (like at regionals when they're checking out girls), but we're all one big happy family most of the time.

Winged Wonder
03-14-2004, 02:40 PM
:D team 233 (aka the PINK team) has a pretty decent guy to girl ratio. i'm not sure of the exact figures, but its pretty close to 50:50. the girls do so much for our team, if i do say so myself. Those of you who saw the girls painted pink at the 2004 UCF regional (yeah i was one of them) but thats not all we girls do! sure we females are there for spirit (boys paint themselves pink too!), but a lot of us helped with building the robot, our practice playing field, scouting, etc. We've got 2 girls in Pit crew... one is our lovely Tool Girl, who does a very nice job i might add (shes a sophmore), and out pit cheif (who is a junior) is also a girl, and its even her first year on the team! a lot of girls tried out for human player and driver too. we girls help a lot with design and things like that, and i mean, seriously, our team color is PINK. you all just KNOW that had some female influence. ;) there were also three girls, including myself, who worked on our admission for chairmans award (yours truely was the project manager), and i also helped with making the little pink team trading cards we have.. good luck if any of you can find them. lol i'm also the team 'seamstress'... i made a flag and button banners.... anyways, i'm living proof of the "little sister factor".. i got interested in robotics because of my brother (hes the arm operator for our robot this year!). the girls have been welcomed and accepted to the group, and its just like a great big family! ^_^ (i've even become an adopted little sister by some of my teammates lol) but yeah anyways, girls on team 233 arent just there to just stand around and look cute, we have some major imput to our team and are every bit as valuable as the boys!

KingsvilleKukes
03-14-2004, 03:34 PM
There are about 25 students on our team, five of wich are girls. We are all doing PR this year, but i know i definatly will be helping more on buliding next year! I hope that next year more girls will want to join, i don't think the boys would mind.

Jay H 237
03-14-2004, 04:39 PM
There are about 25 students on our team, five of wich are girls. We are all doing PR this year, but i know i definatly will be helping more on buliding next year! I hope that next year more girls will want to join, i don't think the boys would mind.

When you are demonstating your robot at different events it's good to have some of the girls on your team there. This way when other girls are interested they'll feel more comfortable talking to the female members of your team and they will also realize if you can be part of the team, so can they. Let them know they can program, machine, weld, assemble, wire, and drive the robot and not just doing the chairmans award and misc stuff.

Redhead Jokes
03-14-2004, 04:47 PM
When you are demonstating your robot at different events it's good to have some of the girls on your team there. This way when other girls are interested they'll feel more comfortable talking to the female members of your team and they will also realize if you can be part of the team, so can they. Let them know they can program, machine, weld, assemble, wire, and drive the robot and not just doing the chairmans award and misc stuff.

Exactly!
The culture on our team several years ago were girls and freshman to be tolerated, not encouraged.

For the past couple of years we've changed that culture. A girl has to be up on the drive team each time, all members work on something robotically AND PR wise.

It's helped shift the guys or upper classmen perception about gracious professionalism and being inclusive rather than exclusive.

It also helped our team to double the number of girls on the team, and encourage 2 of them to take the jr college welding class and become TIG welders. It also helped this past weekend in AZ for the brand new girl to realize she could participate in many ways, AND choose to be trained as a programmer for this next season.

Vivelation
03-16-2004, 07:20 PM
8 girls out of ~40 members on GRT (192), one of whom is our team leader this year. We all participate in designing the robot as well as machining. Some of us also work on other projects, like Chairman's and website. About half the girls have experience in everything (except for a couple areas like animation and programming). Other than that, we usually ask around to see if anything else needs to be done.

Lisa Rodriguez
03-16-2004, 08:08 PM
There are 8 girls on our team of about 34..........but of those 8 girls, all 6-7 consistantly show up and do thier job. I am currently the only girl in the machine shop, i had another freshman girl, but she got caught up in other things. We have 2 girls running battery and myself and another girls on drive team.
Its interesting to have girls, because (as i've found) we tend to think differently about almost everything, and having an all guy build and all male engineers, i tend to think totally different then them, which can help at times or we can just confuse each other:yikes:

Jonathan M.
03-16-2004, 08:12 PM
We're a small team of 15 students, 3 of which are girls. One of these girls does electrical, another is on PR, as well as mechanical, and the other girl does PR and mechanical as well. I've got about 3 or 4 girls to join the team next year, who will do much more than just PR. We believe greatly that no student should be left out of anything. (That's why there are more GUYS on PR than girls! Lol) Oh and I must say the girl on electrical is the best student electrician the team has ever seen! :)

swdshfsh
03-16-2004, 08:29 PM
We have 40 students on our team, 10 of us are girls. Two of the girls are solely devoted to robot and course build. Our marketing team is run completely by girls and we find that females generally have better organizational skills and can get this type of work done quickly. Our marketing team has stayed strong and busy all season as we are one of the hardest component teams of our group. When the girls from marketing felt like taking a break, we worked on building the course and learning as much as possible about robotics. This has been a great experience, and I would encourage and girl to take advantage of robotics and try to learn as much as possible. Don't let the guys think the only good thing you can do is serve food, clean up, and make buttons.

golf_cart_john
03-16-2004, 09:49 PM
This year, we have "3" girls on a team of "23" students. :) In reality, only 1 girl out of 15 members show up. Most of the girls on our team seem to have preferred electrical work, but many of them did mechanical work as well. Oddly, no girls on our team have ever worked on programming. Maybe I scared them all away...

danielkitchener
03-16-2004, 10:05 PM
Our team has 5 girls, and is about 20 big. We have 2 who work on the robot, one of whom drives and is our leader. We also have 2 who do PR and promotional stuff, and 1 who actually was one of our human players. Additionally, this may sound a lil sexist, but it's true: girls are really useful in the pit if you need to borrow something from another team. People are a lot less likely to say no to a decent-looking female than to a pasty-loking male...especially if they have spent the past 6 weeks in the shop building the robot with no contact with the outside world. (notice the number of females doing analysis, too...most teams realize the advantage females have and use it to benefit their team). I'm not saying females can't build or drive...our team is a living testament to the fact that they can. I'm simply saying that females do have an advantage over males when it comes to persuasion and extracting information

Crash852
03-17-2004, 10:43 PM
we have several girls on our team. One of them is our HP. She is a really good HP and rarely misses. She also represented our team in the alliance picking process after the qualification matches.

disturbedislife
03-18-2004, 11:03 PM
on our team of 35, 14 of which were active members, 2 are girls. i did scouting at the event, but at school, i was part of construction, and design. the other was mainly programming and whining about boys being dumb. (ok, so i did that when our guys fudged it up, i admit...) but it was nice seeing other teams having girls, though i personally find it easier to talk to men, because in some cases, they just think *oh, female, listen, stare, flirt, talk.* but mostly the guys i spoke to were very knowledgable on all subjects even the pr.... so even though the guys generally stick the chicks with the "simple tasks" they are capable of it all, and so are the girls. so, if youre a girl readin this, stand up for whatever position you want, and if it comes down to skill level in that position, show your skill, chances are, if you are confident, you will do just as well. so.. boys, dont automatically assume that girls deserve menial jobs on the team, or jobs that require less physical work, just give em a shot at what they say they can do. you might even like having a girls opinion there to help out...

ThetaDot
03-19-2004, 09:51 PM
girl stuff?? excuse me

oops looks like someone forgot to turn on their sarcasm detector! :eek:

MisterX
03-19-2004, 10:13 PM
[QUOTE=Jay H 237]When you are demonstating your robot at different events it's good to have some of the girls on your team there. QUOTE]

I dunno maybe I am looking at this wrong and if so pleas correct me but couldn't that be portrayed as a bit shovanistic that you parade your female memebers around just so you can increase your numbers on the team? I am not saying lock them up in a room so people don't know you have female memebers, just to specifically bring female memebers to events to increase your numbers seems wrong to me. They should be dealt with as if any other person and not specifically do a certain taks based on there gender... or am I just reading WAY to into this?

JoshJ
03-19-2004, 10:37 PM
MisterX-
Th rest of his post makes more sense than the first line. Basically, he's saying that it is a good idea to have girls present when you are demoing (trying to spread word about ur team anyway) so that any girls that may be interested in joining ur team know that they wont be the only ones on it. Hope that makes sense.

Jay H 237
03-20-2004, 07:17 AM
[QUOTE=Jay H 237]When you are demonstating your robot at different events it's good to have some of the girls on your team there. QUOTE]

I dunno maybe I am looking at this wrong and if so pleas correct me but couldn't that be portrayed as a bit shovanistic that you parade your female memebers around just so you can increase your numbers on the team? I am not saying lock them up in a room so people don't know you have female memebers, just to specifically bring female memebers to events to increase your numbers seems wrong to me. They should be dealt with as if any other person and not specifically do a certain taks based on there gender... or am I just reading WAY to into this?

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. I'm sorry if my post came off that way to you. My idea isn't to parade the females around as models for our robot or the team for that matter. The fact is there ARE females interested in careers in the science/technical industry. The fact is SOME females are reluctant/hesitant to talk to, let alone join the team when all they see is males on the team thinking they won't be accepted or allowed to join. When they see other females on the team they realize that they could join also and that we don't discriminate against them. When they find out that some of our female members machine, program, assemble, wire and drive the robot they realize that they could do that also and start pursuing thier interest in science and technology. It's unfortunate, even in these days, but some people ARE still sexist and don't feel females should be doing (or can't do) machining, programing, wiring, ect.

Just remember the idea of FIRST (other than GP) is to allow ANYONE thier interest in pursuit of a career in the science and technology fields.

pink967
03-22-2004, 05:06 PM
I'm actually very proud of the role of girls on the Linn-Mar team 967!...we've got 9 girls out of a total of 35 students. We've got a system where we have leaders for each team, and there are like 8 teams. 3 of the leaders for the teams are female!!! (Myself included) We have a mentor who does a TON of stuff for our team like you wouldn't believe! I am the documentation team leader which means i oversee about half of the team including the whole website team. My best friend, kelsey is the PR/Finance leader, and the travel coordinator is also a female. The guys were gonna be our cheerleaders at competition but, let's face it, most guys can't handle that kind of pep. SO, we also play the role of cheerleaders as well, but that's jsut basically us freaking out over the stuff that we helped accomplish and knowing that our team would be nothing without us :rolleyes: yep, progress is being made considering we had 3 girls on our team last year.

BlueOrion
03-22-2004, 05:21 PM
We have 30 students on our team, 7 of which are girls. We used to have more earlier in the year, but every year with time, girls and guys fade away. Last year there happened to only be 4 though. Most of the girls do scouting, media, business plan, chairman's, other awards, that type of thing. Me and one other girl are on the build/pit crew and we get our share of work. On our team, work is work and whoever is told to do it or who wants to do it is expected to do it, regardless of anything.

BetsyTheMuffin
03-22-2004, 07:10 PM
My team, 449, has seven girls of about 20 kids. I've definitely encountered a bit of a "glass ceiling;" it's hard for guys to realize that they're being patronizing to girls, or that they're undervaluing our contributions, because for most it's not a conscious thing. Still, it's a lot better now than it used to be; when our team was founded five years ago, there were only two girls on the team. One was pretty shy and because of that got all jobs taken away from her (except scouting and programming, which she proved EXCELLENT at) by more assertive guys. The other.... well, I knew her, and she was "unique." She was one of the more important members of the team, mostly because she was rather hard to ignore ever.

Last year, though, I joined and so did several more girls; last year's total number of girls, 8, was the highest total number we've ever had. (Although as the team itself is smaller this year, 7 might be higher percentage-wise.)
What do they do? Well, I'll admit that at Regionals this year I mostly did PR work--but that's because this year the drive train (the system I mostly worked on) worked perfectly! Drive is mostly the province of the girls; there's only one guy on the drive team. All the girls are on drive except one; she's our treasurer and resident programming genius/general genius. Two of the drive girls also do scouting, and they're amazing at that; they sit in the stands, watch every match (even the practices) and remember every. single. one. We'd definitely be crippled strategy-wise if it weren't for their detailed reports on the robots in our upcoming matches.... (oops, did I just give away the secret of our sucess? :p)

Michael R. Lee
03-22-2004, 07:35 PM
Looking back on my four years as a high school student. My first year a freshmen on 180 (S.P.A.M.) the girls did work (there were at least 5 and a number of them were seniors) in the assembly and machining of components. Second year same amount roughly but only 1 of them actually did anything productive. Like my last two years on S.P.A M., the over whelming majority of them were more concerned about…. Socializing over working. We’d ask them to do something and sometimes it’d be why? Or they’d just do that and have absolutely no follow up (like deburring a part… well they’d do 1 of the 6 parts that needed that). Part of it they never stepped up to do any of the work on the other side of the coin. But I admit I am guilt of shunning out girls from the Pits and doing work, partly preferring to deal with those who knew what they are doing and those who volunteer versus volunteering somebody.

One of my mentors, Warren, told us this my freshman year of high school (was it really four robotic seasons ago?) that one mentor solved part of his problem of the girls not doing any work on the robot. They were afraid of getting themselves dirty. So he lines them up and has them stick their hands out. He sprays them with WD-40 and basically tells them… now you’re hands are dirty so get to work.

The point is as mentors we really do have to in some ways police this issue. Not so much to spray someone whose afraid of getting their hands dirty but to make sure people get a fair chance at getting to do some of the work. There are some girls who will basically tell it to the guys and say let me in on this. Others we seem to have to make way for them. This in itself isn't a good thing either cause a mentor may not always be there to do so.

But really in the whole grand scheme of things is that it is about changing the culture. Something FIRST is about and that is one aspect we ought to help strive to change. Those of you who have been mentors longer than one year please feel free to contact me or respond to this message.

robofrog716
03-22-2004, 08:00 PM
yeah we got about 20 kids on our team, if that... and about half of them are girls... and they do a lot for our team... if u've ever seen 716's hook and how fast it worked... yeah a girl designed that that and we love it....


if anyone's going to nat's .... see you there

Christina47
03-22-2004, 08:29 PM
If we, Chief Delphi, has not responded... then I will! 16 females out of 27. Half and half. The females on the team are responsible for taking photos, cheering, PR, and of course building some sort of part for the robot during the robot build.

FIRST-e 250
03-22-2004, 08:40 PM
I'm happy to say that on our team we have a fairly large group of girls who (for the most part) are very active in building the robot. Our team has a lot of mechanical talent in our female members, and we wouldn't be able to do nearly as well as we do without them. We have a few girls who mostly do team spirit, but they are never relegated to that role, it's just what they prefer to do. The only lack we have is that we have no female programmers. I'm not sure why, but the past three years I've never seen any girl on our team take a serious interest in programming. Next year, after myself and the senior mechanics move on, our mechancial section is going to consist of mostly girls, which I think is really cool.

30goto20
03-22-2004, 09:25 PM
Out of a realitively small team (15 students) 1/3 of the students are female, 1 of our teacher/mentors is a female, and our PR plannign person is a female. If it wasnt for the contibutions of these "girls" then our team would not be what it is today. I'm glad that some people are actively working to get more females into mathmatics,science, and engeineering by getting them involved with the FIRST program. If not for all the contributions of all the females in science our world would not be what it is today. And hey, guys, if you dont want females involved with "guy work" then your probably in the wrong program becuase we all know that FIRST is for people of all races,sexs,heights,weights,etc. thats why we love it!
(Oh yeah and by the way, I'm all for getting females intrested in technology becuase face it, we all want to meet smart women who are interested in the things we are.)

Vince lau
03-25-2004, 08:57 PM
Canadian all girls teams that i know of

771 - St. Mildred's-Lightbourn School
1275 - Havergal College
1291 - St. Clement's School

oh ya i forgot Emery Collegiate Institute has two teams this year an all boys team and and all girls team, so that make 4 all girls school teams in the Canadian Regionals that i know of

Hailfire
04-11-2004, 03:38 PM
OOOPS! Jason....6 out of 13 are girls!!! they did wiring, construction, and carpentry. :rolleyes:

If you didn't notice, I posted that a year ago. On 3-25-03.

Bcahn836
04-11-2004, 04:57 PM
out of 40 or so students we have about 6 girls, 5 are in public relations and 1 is in our programing group. We also have 2 female mentors that are engineers. One is lead of public relations, the other is an electronics sub team lead mentor.

KathieK
04-11-2004, 07:45 PM
I can't speak on behalf of the female students on RAGE team 173, but as an adult mentor, it appears that the females and males are treated equally on our team.

Approximately one third of our team is female. Our team Captain, Keiko173, is female, and is also our drive team coach. One member of the drive team is female. Females and males were given equal opportunity to try out for these roles.

Our team is organized into many different committees, and students were allowed to select whatever committee they were interested in. As a result, there was female representation on nearly all of our committees.

michael_obrien
04-11-2004, 07:56 PM
we have one girl who does girly stuff. She's the girlfriend of our team president. I guess we also have another girl but she does jack. I only saw her at the competition.

Madison
04-11-2004, 08:07 PM
we have one girl who does girly stuff. She's the girlfriend of our team president. I guess we also have another girl but she does jack. I only saw her at the competition.

I'd be interested in reading about what "girly stuff" entails.

Lisa Rodriguez
04-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by michael_obrien
we have one girl who does girly stuff. She's the girlfriend of our team president. I guess we also have another girl but she does jack. I only saw her at the competition.


I'd be interested in reading about what "girly stuff" entails.
I second that!

MisterX
04-11-2004, 08:29 PM
I second that!


AMEN, SISTAH!! :ahh: !!! YOU TELL IT!!!!!!!!

LauraN
04-11-2004, 08:53 PM
we have one girl who does girly stuff. She's the girlfriend of our team president. I guess we also have another girl but she does jack. I only saw her at the competition.

I'd be interested in reading about what "girly stuff" entails.
You know, girly stuff. =)

This conversation developed earlier in this thread. I assume he means things not related to actually building the robot: specifically scouting, PR, making buttons, web design, etc. But I'd also like to hear what he has to say for himself :p

As for Team 30, females are taking over next year. :ahh: *evil laughter*

It just happened to work out that a lot of core members who will be seniors next year happen to be female. Or maybe it's more that most of the females happen to be core members who will be seniors. In any case, Kristi will be head of the electronics team, I'll be working with mechanical, and Tetty, Sarah and Selena will be all over everything else: PR and fundraising and Chairman's award. The plan is to do active recruiting and get lots of people involved in those areas, but those girls will be leading those sub-teams.

In terms of "girly stuff," though, it seems interesting to note that during this current season, our animation, photoshop, and web design teams were all male (with one exception).

Or maybe that's just what happens when your school is about 70% male. =)

c-squared_2006
04-11-2004, 10:35 PM
I'm the only other girl besides one of my friends. We get equal chances with the boys. There's really no 'girly stuff' I work on scouting, of course. But I also am on the group that builds the pratice field. In fact I'm the student head. The other girl is the student head of scouting, but frankly she really didn't do much, so I took over. We really need dedicated members for our team. But as long as the person works hard and does their job, they have a equal chance at everything. No matter what sex.

winterfairy100
04-24-2004, 02:47 PM
Almost every year our team has had many girls on the team. Granted our team isn't very large but its still about 50:50 and our pit crew is mostly girls. This year alone we had 6 girls and 4 guys in the pit at nationals. In fact our team started with girls. Most years (with few exceptions) our team captains have been girls. This year all 3 of our pit bosses were girls and I was taught how to fix our drive module by girls. We do so much on our team.

Adare180
04-25-2004, 03:20 PM
At Nationals, a few of the girls on my team (Mary, Tiff, and I) went to the Robotic Chicks Union meeting, and next year, we are going to try to start some type of "Robotic Chickettes" in the elementary/middle school age students to recuit girls to join are team and possess an interest in science and engineering. On team S.P.A.M. now, there are over thirty students involved, only 12 of which being girls. Out of all the team membors that went to Atlanta for the championship, only 8 were girls, less than 1/3 of the students who came with on the trip. I am the only active female team member from my school this year, and during the "rookie meetings" in the fall, there were only two girls in the entire class out of about 20. Go robotics girls! Go Robotic Chicks Union! ;)

Goobergunch
04-25-2004, 03:27 PM
Our team is based out of an all-boys school (http://www.malvernprep.org), so we don't have any girls on our team for obvious reasons. However, we are considering partnering with our sister school (http://64.9.3.252/index.html) for next year.

tiffany34990
04-25-2004, 03:28 PM
okay i must say i'm a girl and well i do more than a lot of girls on our team-- i'm one of the only girls on the pit crew at competition other is mary-- and well i'm pretty much the pit boss gal--
and without me the team would be a mess-- i organize all the tool-- i know where they all are and well the guys count on me-- jame jones always makes me organize the pit, color code tools, and it's busy work but it's my job and i don't mind it cause i still get to work on the bot and machine parts!! I LUV USING THE BRIDGEPORT! and well even our machinist jack says he likes working with girls rather than guys cause the girls on our team that he works with are willing to learn--not bashing any of the guys but that's what he says-- and it's good though for girls to be out teams and other teams-- some dont' have to work in the pit or do the cheering or whatever- each have a part of the team and help the team-- everyone does the guys and mentors too!!
but to those girls out there--keep on going--dont' give up and feel that u can't do something-- just go and get u'r hands dirty-- dirt and grease will come off!! and well just have fun in FIRST b/c it's totally awesome!!!

RiceRobotica
04-25-2004, 05:46 PM
Well, I'm one of 3 or 4 girls on a team of about 20. I'm a machinist and the drive team coach/mentor person. I like to believe I added that much needed feminine touch to everything I made on this year's robot. "It's pretty!" rang through the rooms when I really liked something. One of the other girls helped with building the crate, among other things. Come competition time, she was the Queen of all of our scouts. She was in control of, not only the scouting forms, but the scouts themselves. The other two were helpful during the building season with just about anything that needed doing.

Besides being good at building, machining and the like, the Queen and I did some of the pit interviews for our scouting notebook. We never realized how good we could be at it. :rolleyes: But we met some great people doing that!

SarahBecker
04-25-2004, 05:52 PM
Despite what our guys want to believe, more than half of our team are girls, and our entire pit crew is made up of only girls, and they rock! They built most of the bot this year, and continue to be practically the only ones who work on it. Our boys have ended up in the stands working on scouting, with the rest of the girls on our team. Our human player this year (and last) was a girl, and the main operator this year was a girl.
So all you girls out there... keep up the good work... we ARE taking over! ;)

RLopez
04-25-2004, 05:58 PM
we have 7 girls.. some their jobs include:
some working on Chairman's
PR
Spirit (as the rest of our team)
Business

I am the photographer, so i take care of that ;D.. i also work with PR and business.. and i help around wherever available (building, etc) even helping with dotting the i's and crossing the t's :D.. In my first year with FIRST/Robotics team.. i didnt know much about construction and such.. so the only way to learn is to get yourself involved as much as you can.. so im just helping around right now.. and ive learned a lot ;D..

davey_c
04-25-2004, 06:33 PM
We have 5-6 girls on the team out of around 25. Four came with us to nationals. All of them work on the robot (actually, everyone on our team does at least some handiwork with the robot).

Any ideas on how to attract more girls to the team? Also on how to attract people to do PR, fundraising, etc., and not work on the robot? We always only get people who want to handle the power tools and do the design, and no one who's willing to focus on other stuff like sponsorship that is also vital to the team.

Lisa Perez
04-25-2004, 10:39 PM
Our team is based out of an all-boys school, so we don't have any girls on our team for obvious reasons. However, we are considering partnering with our sister school for next year.


This was the same situation for Brother Rice (Team 573) in 2003. They partnered with their sister school (my school), Marian that year... and I must say, what a good idea that was! 25% of our team was composed of girls the first year and participation from Marian has grown since then.

wasabi824
04-26-2004, 03:18 AM
Our team was 25% - 35% girls, and they had absolutely crucial jobs. one girl was our HR rep, one girl built the drivetrain with three guys, two girls made our pins, designed our t-shirts, banners, stickers... they learned photoshop from scratch and now are more skilled than most average computer users. one of our girls managed our $30,000 budget. one girl was our shooter, and she was one of the best shooters in atlanta hands down.

i am the team president (a guy), but i fully support girls' roles and one of our goals next year is to make engineering and FIRST more appealing to girls at our beautiful University of Washington campus.

hope this helps.

KathieK
04-26-2004, 05:21 AM
Any ideas on how to attract more girls to the team? Also on how to attract people to do PR, fundraising, etc., and not work on the robot? We always only get people who want to handle the power tools and do the design, and no one who's willing to focus on other stuff like sponsorship that is also vital to the team.

When you do recruiting in your school, emphasize that there are many roles to play on the team -we have a brochure that lists the many different skills we are looking for; i.e. writing (public relations, Chairman's Award), computer animation, computer programming, sports (don't forget those human players), mathematics, business, finance, accounting, art (designing buttons, t-shirts, painting wall murals at our facility, designing posters), etc.

One way to attract people in those areas is to contact the teachers of those areas to see if there is anyone they think might be interested.

spaz_343
04-26-2004, 10:55 AM
Im not really sure how many girls we have on our team, but we do have some around 8 or so. It's true that some teams only have girls on them for cheering, ect. But at least least its not true in all cases. As far as my team (343) goes, our female team members are treated the same on our team, but most of us only want to deal with marketing. As for myself I do the team website... sort of (didn't really get to do anything this year, but hopefully its going to change)

811SmallFry
04-27-2004, 07:03 PM
Out of 48 students, 7 are girls. 2 seniors, 2 juniors, 3 freshmen (freshwomen ;) ). One is in controls, one does CAD work, one is in marketing, PR, and occasionally indulges herself in 3DS and controls work, one is Marketing, PR, and occasionally CAD and Manufacturing. One is Manufacturing and Marketing, one is Manufacturing and hopefully will soon be working in controls, and I am involved in Marketing, PR, and our Web team.
We're all really busy, as you can tell... but our team (particularly the girls on it) is really well-rounded.

looneylin
05-03-2004, 01:31 PM
we're an all girl team too... so we do everything... i'm kind of disappointed that other teams don't have that many girls on theirs :(

soezgg
05-05-2004, 10:18 PM
I take back my previous statistic of 6 females out of 22 members.

Most of the freshmen on our team qualify as females, so I would alter this figure to more like 13 females out of 22 members.

Rez648
05-06-2004, 08:03 AM
Team 648 has 7 girls on our team out of 22, and they are invaluable. (two are mentors, but they are still dedicated to the team). They do many things on the team, but 3 of them have recently taken to making the team scrapbook before the end of our season.

Hafize
05-08-2004, 06:13 PM
Team 1305 has 23 members on the team and 6 are girls. 1 is PR and the rest are engineering. We also have two mentor females and have many female parents helping out. Without the girls the boys would be lost. Next year your cheif engineer is a girl. Which is awesome. :)

Astronouth7303
05-08-2004, 07:19 PM
Sorry. We have 4: webmaster, helper (and 1 of 3 who went to kickoff), parent-who-made-flag-and-banner-and-buttons, and parent-who-drove-the-programmer (my mom)

CourtneyB
05-08-2004, 07:41 PM
Im from team WildStang #111, and we have about like maybe about 12 girls involved on the team and the rest are guys. There is like 60 sumthin guys on the team. But this year was a very good year for girls to get involved with the robot. Out pit crew had 3 girls on it...all ivolved with electrical stuff. And the good thing is that next year all our electrical mini pit crew is going to be made up of girls. So well have like 4 girls on pit crew. Then the other girls that go to the competetion are either scouting or video taping. :D

LittleGirlGreen
05-10-2004, 12:10 PM
We've got 6, but 3 are fairly useless, and 2 are graduating (one going to caltech, and I'm going to Olin), so next year's team will have.... you guessed it folks, ONE fully functional female. I just hope the poor thing doesn't pass out from a lack of estrogen in the shop.

hixofthehood
05-17-2004, 05:32 AM
The girls on our team are either working on intel, software, electrical, spirit, fundraising, awards, animation, robot/field fabrication, photography, web design... you know, girl stuff.

When I said this back on page 1, my main idea was that girls are a part of every single aspect of our team. I just wanted to clarify that in order to dispel any rumors that I am an insensitive loser. It was merely an attempt at humor through verbal irony. Lo siento.

anna~marie
05-17-2004, 07:24 AM
On my team, there aren't many girls who do much "engineering work" but those of us that do are very good at it and work hard.

robolemur1236
01-14-2005, 08:30 AM
We have five girls on the team, two do pr work, one helps with mechanics, one is for support, and the last one does like all of our welding, so we love her.

shotgunking777
01-14-2005, 08:47 AM
we have a couple of grls on our team over in hauppauge and each and every one of them do their part if its welding or putting together weels setting up programs ext. but yeah they don't just sit around and do nothing they help out.

Billfred
01-14-2005, 08:55 AM
Right now, I can think of five girls (not counting teachers) on 1293 for 2005.

One does PR, one is a programmer, two of them work on the robot (one specializes in drilling holes), and one just got in yesterday, so I'm not really sure where she'll settle in.

Mike AA
01-14-2005, 09:00 AM
This year being our team's rookie year we dont have many students involved because they dont think its very interesting. We are doing our best to keep the students working on ideas and getting their friends. I wasn't able to attend a meeting until tuesday but there are supposidly 3 girls, maybe a 4th on our team, currently we really only have one group and all the girls like the guys are helping with ideas for parts and brainstorming, we are all equals doing the same things.

-Mike

JulieB
01-14-2005, 09:03 AM
im a female i handle the rules and building(drive train) because mainly the guys of my team care else

5 girls and 30 on the team

CourtneyB
01-14-2005, 09:27 AM
What are all the girls in FIRST doing on their team this year? Im involved with mechanical this year. Its a new step for me. I am the only girl on mechnical and the boys are very nice to me with using tools and everything which i really appriciate it. I think that girls should get involved with the robot and should do whatever. I think throughout the year more and more girls will become involved with FIRST that itll scare the guys! :ahh: lol
-Court-

Rocketboy
01-14-2005, 09:36 AM
On our team we have 6 girls. Three of them write for our website and publications, the other 3 are actively involved with our robotics project. At least one of them is gonna be an excellent engineer one day.. :)

Emma
01-14-2005, 09:41 AM
I am the only girl on the robot team

Cory
01-14-2005, 10:49 AM
I think throughout the year more and more girls will become involved with FIRST that itll scare the guys! :ahh: lol
-Court-
Scare the guys? no way, we'd like it :D

Leav
01-14-2005, 10:51 AM
we have 3 girls, and their all involved in strategy and documentation, nothing mechanical.....
:(

tribotec_ca88
01-14-2005, 01:07 PM
We have 5 "active" girls on our team (there´s one other, but she´s kind of an on-off sort of participant) , 26 students overall. This saddens me a bit, considering last year we had 7. It cheers me up, however, to see that the female work isn´t concentrated towards one area (which is usually Marketing)...2 of them work with PR/Marketing, one is a mechanic, another works with electronics and I´m a mixture of Documentation, Logistics, PR & Programming. Being the minority, we can get left out at times but it doesn´t come to a radical point where we do nothing at all. Some may disagree, but I certainly feel as if we´re being discriminated...
This whole FIRST-guy bias thing needs to be broken...all we need to do is prove that gender doesn´t reflect that person´s ability whatsoever. But sometimes the difference between those that can prove or not depends on one thing: opportunity.

Vince lau
01-14-2005, 01:14 PM
i'm a mentor for an all girls team

NotaNerd
01-14-2005, 02:05 PM
Our team has 26 members, 9 of which are girls. That's almost a 2:1 ratio. In my mind, that's a ridiculously high ratio for a FIRST team. But the girls on our team do a lot of different activities. From publicity, to awards, to documentation, to showing the guys (who are to belligerent to even listen to each other) a new approach to something. If it weren't for them, we'd probably tear each other's heads off.

Aaron
01-14-2005, 02:32 PM
unfortunately our team doesnt have nearly enough girls. we have probably about 15 out of 60 people on the team (this is better than the two on the team my freshman year). The girls do all jobs on our team, we have no bias, although some girls are a bit timid with working with machines they still help build the robot.

boy_scout72688
01-14-2005, 02:37 PM
Our team is Team 1243 From Swartz Creek, MI. We have a group of about 6 students who are there all the time and 3 who shows up occassionaly. Our team consists of 3 that show up all the time and 2 who show up occassionally. Our girls on the team do just the same work as the guys. As a matter of fact of team leader of students is a girl. The girls work on the robot in any way they can.


James

Koko Ed
01-14-2005, 02:38 PM
Ah yes this beauty lives on.
Well the X-Cats are back to their girl heavy look this year with 18 girls and 14 boys and we make sure they participate in all aspects of the team.
Our coach and assistant coach will be young ladies this year.
Also our student liason, our scout master (mistress?), project planner and our spirit leaders are all young ladies.

Anchi
01-14-2005, 03:24 PM
ours didnt really do much of anything last year, but its changed quiet a bit this year. i think they gained soem confidence and they are actualy quiet helpful now, without one of them, we would be broke and not have anuff money to enter this year :]. not to say that the guys did anything... out of like 15 kids only 4-6 of us did much. it has changed with them also, we got soem new guys who know their stuff, or are willign if they dont. the actualy number of kids who do stuff if much better than last year.

Sakura141
01-14-2005, 04:31 PM
almost half of our team consists of girls (12 out of 30), me being one of them. 3 work just on the robot (Me and two others) and the other girl does the math. All the other girls work on animation, website, marketing, I just wish more would get involved with the machines.

Amanda N.
01-14-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm one of 4 girls on the team. (last year we only had 2! :ahh: )

I'm the only one of those 4 that isn't new this year, and the others haven't quite found their niche yet.. although one of the girls has started to work on robot construction the last couple meetings. I was a programmer last year and I'm thinking I'll work on electronics/sensors this year.. I was also a driver last year :D

Our team is pretty good about including the girls.. then again, our team is pretty small, so we need everyone we can get! :rolleyes:

Anchi
01-14-2005, 04:56 PM
the 2 from last year that we had are gettining into the machine work, im glad they are cuz its fun, helpful, and a very nice skill to have(nothin better than a woman who knows her way around a shop, honistly). they made plywood prototypes all nite on wedsday while the rest of us bickered over designs :D.

rocketdawg3000
01-14-2005, 06:38 PM
We have about 40 people on our team (845) including the engineers. We have about 13 girls on our team.

Eupher
01-14-2005, 08:17 PM
I am the only girl on my team of about 30 people and I am the President.

Pshyco
01-14-2005, 08:23 PM
We have girls on our team ranging from Build, Cad, Website, Photography And Awards

Pi Is Exactly 3
01-14-2005, 08:30 PM
Our team consists of 3 girls out of maybe 25. One of the girls has been very helpful in discussions and design. The other two, we're starting to think, don't really care. Perhaps this was a college application club for them, I'm not sure. They don't really come to meetings so we give them public relations jobs. But whatever. Not much you can do about it. It would be nice to have more girls interested in engineering, programming, etc. in the club, but that's not something we can control just yet. Soon our club will be big enough to inspire such things.

Pin Man
01-14-2005, 09:17 PM
Our numbers have gone up this year... We started out with 60 students... Consisting of about 19 girls... When people realize what kind of work we put out, the numbers have dropped to 45 overall and approximately 15 girls...

(Our passed 3 captains have been girls but not this year)...

Jillian B.
01-14-2005, 10:37 PM
There are 45 students on my team. 10 are girls. 6 are very involved in spirit. 2 are very involved in assembly. 1 (me) is involved with designing (CAD, etc.). The captain (me) is a girl. Both co-captains last year were girls.

In recent years, I don't believe there have been any female members of the drive team, but let's see if this year changes that. ;)

~ Jill

Dorienne
01-14-2005, 11:26 PM
We have 7 girls on our team this year! Finally! Haha. We haven't had over 2 girls in over a few years. Quite sad, really. But here's the rundown on what they do:
Me -- Business Coordinator (Chairman's, Image/Spirit, Public Relations, Scouting at competitions, etc.)
Jamie -- Photography, Business with me.
Brittany G. -- Drive
Komal -- Auxiliary
Brittany W. -- Artist (for our t-shirts)
Sonia -- Image with Brittany W. (unsure exactly what she does.)
Kirsten -- Drive
We have about 32 people on our team as of yesterday. We've had a few people join on Monday. Quite an interesting thing that was.
=)

663.keith
01-15-2005, 12:06 AM
our team has about 20 students, and of that, about 8 of them are girls. Most of the girls on my team are seniors (we have 0 senior boys this year), and so are very active in every aspect of our team. Most people choose what they want to do pertaining to the club, and most of the girls want to do the scouting at strategising on our team.

Gasperini
01-15-2005, 04:40 AM
Not sure if this was covered... (13 pages! Wow.)

Way back in the day, when I was in 8th grade, we had a prospective students night for the graduating 6th graders. They would come in and see all the school's facilities, especially for the elective classes. (They would choose shortly after that night.)

The woodshop teacher would only accept girls as volunteers for demoing tools. (I was into woodworking back then, and I got turned down for demo night.) Seeing my disappointment, he explained why:

1.) Girls come into woodshop and see other girls using powertools, getting their hands dirty, etc. It breaks down some of the gender barriers for them.

2.) Guys see a woodshop full of girls.

He figured it was a good way to get both sexes to join woodshop. My advice to teams who want more girls in engineering roles: Take the girls you have, and give them important roles during demonstrations: speaking, fixing, and driving.

techtiger1
01-15-2005, 06:34 AM
Another girl is on the autonomous team (which also happens to be mentored by a woman) and the other girl is on video team (much as I hate the boom mike, I'll admit they do important work).

That is what my team needs a woman mentor on the mechanical side of things.

IMDWalrus
01-15-2005, 10:18 AM
Looking at our website, it seems that we have a total of 13 girls on the team this year, with three of them working directly on the robot.

818 is split up into several subteams which are created by the mentors; girls are free to apply to whatever group they wish, but it seems like most of them end up in the scouting/spirit/fundraising group. I don't know if that's by design, chance, or something else entirely, but that seems to be how it's worked for my time on the team.

That said, it bothers me that we still think about this and still make a big deal out of it. With any luck, we'll be able to reach a point where we don't need to do that sometime soon...

jessjank.
01-15-2005, 10:24 AM
This year, our team has 11 girls out of a total of 33 members. I myself, a female, am team president. Three out of the eleven work in our manufacturing department, 1 works in animation, and the rest of us are part of communications/PR/marketing (a secretary, 2 photographers, several newsletter editors, fundraising, web managers, team spirit, chairman's/hall of fame, etc). Having girls represent a third of the team is definitely a positive thing, though it would be awesome to inspire more girls to join in the years to come and pursue interests in manufacturing and animation.

ladydarkness13
01-15-2005, 10:40 AM
Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!

'bout 21 kids on the team, 2 gals for sure, 1 who keeps flunking and can't participate and 1 whose parents don't let her come all the time
I do communication pr and writing stuff
ariel would do machining if she was ever here
and Jesse does electrical if she would stop burning herself with the sautering iron
and carlyn who would also do electrical if she were ever here.....not too great a representation...doesn't help that none of the people in our school are like us and that we live in a lake of preps.... :mad:

rappo
01-15-2005, 11:21 AM
there is one girl on our team (student, that is... there are also a couple of female mentors) and she is in our programming/electronics subsystem.

SCRAM
01-15-2005, 11:42 AM
Our team is composed of the Honors Advanced Physics class and then other students. In our physics class, we have 15 girls in our class of 28. We currently have about 65 members in addition to the class. Probably about half are girls. The girls in the class hold most of the administrative tasks. However, these are jobs we picked at the begining of the year. Girls are give any opportunity they want to work on anything they want. At the begining of the year, they were able to learn from other team members things like programming. I personally am the communications officer and publicist. But I specifically fought for my position.

Hershey
01-15-2005, 01:10 PM
We have a grand total of about 11 people on our team. 2 of those are girls. Kepp in mind that we DID NOT force ANY position on the team on them. They chose their positions ON THEIR OWN! They do work as our publicists and make good relations with teams and when the rest of the team is at the field, they will be staying behind and giving info. about our program and bot while we are away. Our 'head mentor' if you would like to call him that is extremely encouraging more girls to join our team. It just so happens that at our school has more guys who want to join the robotics team than girls.

P.S. We also have our girls run most of our presentation that we do for businesses that might want to sponser us.

Sugar_Bunny
01-15-2005, 02:34 PM
We have 10 girls on a 28 member team this year. About half of the girls do public relations, and the other half helps building.
Jackie

Fouleaf
01-15-2005, 02:46 PM
We have 6 girls on a team of about 20. One is head of programming, 4 of us make up the electronics group and then one is the head of PR.

preussrobotics
01-15-2005, 05:27 PM
Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!

I know that my team is not the norm, but over half of my team are girls. Two of our officers are girls and three of our sub groups are also led by girls--arm design, programming, and electrical.

roboticsnerd698
01-16-2005, 03:16 PM
Hello, I am a girl from team 698. We have 6 or 7 girls on our team out of about 40 in the team and we have many jobs. We don't slack either. We have 6 officer positions--President and VP are guys--but the other four are held by females, including myself. If there is any advertising done by girls on our team, it is our choice. Our PR is a girl, but good luck trying to get us as cheerleaders. Sure we'll cheer on our team, but we're not here for just looks. Our girls work with programming, pnuematics, animation, electronics/special teams, and building and designing our robot. We don't let guys push us around ;) Anything planned or organized is either done by a girl, or helped by a girl. Some of us show more drive, determination and dedication than the others, but that's human nature. We are very upset when we hear that girls don't do a lot of building and try to break all stereotypes. One of our famous phrases is "Girls rule with power tools!" We are just as capable as the guys and try to help out as much as possible by doing any job that comes our way--building, designing, advertising, anything.

phrontist
01-16-2005, 03:39 PM
We are very upset when we hear that girls don't do a lot of building and try to break all stereotypes. One of our famous phrases is "Girls rule with power tools!"

Okay, this is a pet peeve of mine. If your motivation for doing something is "to break stereotypes" you are defining your actions in the context of a broken system and playing into the hands of the "adversary", be it the male patriarchy, the vast right-wing conspiracy, or the RIAA.

Feminists often get a bad rap for this, modeling their lives around the inverse of stereotypes, which is a very low form of protest, as they are still allowing themselves to be controlled by the stereotype. Had the stereotype been otherwise, they would be acting differently, and thus are not thinking for themselves at all, but rather acting on a knee-jerk contrarian sentiment. Are you rebelling for the sake of rebelling? Is this really rebellion at all?

Koko Ed
01-16-2005, 04:59 PM
Okay, this is a pet peeve of mine. If your motivation for doing something is "to break stereotypes" you are defining your actions in the context of a broken system and playing into the hands of the "adversary", be it the male patriarchy, the vast right-wing conspiracy, or the RIAA.

Feminists often get a bad rap for this, modeling their lives around the inverse of stereotypes, which is a very low form of protest, as they are still allowing themselves to be controlled by the stereotype. Had the stereotype been otherwise, they would be acting differently, and thus are not thinking for themselves at all, but rather acting on a knee-jerk contrarian sentiment. Are you rebelling for the sake of rebelling? Is this really rebellion at all?
It's better than doing nothing at all.

Cyberguy34000
01-16-2005, 06:03 PM
We have a team of 60 or so students but only 3 or so girls, all of which are on the mechanical design and build team. (There might be a few more on web or animation but we never see those people) We've tried to recruit more, it's been a little bit of a problem because our corporate sponsors want to see more girls on our team. We've tried to attract some more to our team but haven't had too much success so far.

melissa
01-16-2005, 06:30 PM
I am from MOE and this year we have 9 girls out of a team of 30- thats so exciting! I was one of 3 two years ago, and then one of 4 last year. Even though I am the only returning girl, they all jumped right in and started working. We have girls in every aspect of the team- mechanical, programming, web design, PR and spirit, electical, pneumatics, and the list goes on... :D

~Melissa

phrontist
01-16-2005, 07:09 PM
It's better than doing nothing at all.

I disagree. Do things because YOU want to do them for YOUR reasons.

Jasmin
01-16-2005, 07:27 PM
I have a couple of jobs on our team. The first one I kind of appointed to myself, and that is to record everything that was done during our meeting. It really helps us out to keep on track, and know what we've already covered.

The second is on the animation team. I'm one of two people who work on concept art/the storyboard.

Then I also do random tasks that need to be done for the team that no one's able to do. For instance, this past Saturday I worked on one of the horizontal band saws, cutting pipe to make the tetras while the guys put them together in the classroom.

Oh, and I am a cheerleader, but so are all the men on the team, too. :P

Justin Baier
01-16-2005, 07:48 PM
We've got 5 girls this year. Which is up from 1 last year :). Most of them write for the website and do journal/PR stuff. The two that are doing "real" work this year are invaluable.

Koko Ed
01-16-2005, 08:07 PM
I disagree. Do things because YOU want to do them for YOUR reasons.
Actually we make a conscious effort to draw girls and minorities to our team (Wilson Magnet is an inner city school after all). Diversity is a big deal with us. Everyone places different values on diversity and just because yours are not as high as ours does not make our preferences wrong.

hockeydaisy341
01-16-2005, 09:29 PM
we are a team of about 30 i guess, some are dropping as build season goes on as usual, so its unknown right now. I would say 10 to 15 are girls. I personally am a part of the chairmans team and business, media, scouting, and human player. At our own competition Ramp Riot, i was head coach for our booth crew :) very fun. The other girls do various things on the team. 5 or 6 are on build/electrical. Others are on awards and scouting etc. Everyone gets a chance to do what they want. No girl is told that she cant build or anything. I think the girls on our team play a big part :D i think that could apply to any team!

Modeish
01-17-2005, 05:01 PM
We have 10 girls on our team of 30 or so...

I am the drive train team lead, one is a programmer and webmaster, one does marketing, one does chassis, and the other 6 do spirit.

-Modeish

EOC
01-18-2005, 10:30 AM
Out of the 68 active members on our team 30 are female.
Of this 30, 18 are on the administrative team, 8 are on the electrical team, 3 are on the mechanical team and 1 is on the programming team.

justbobdanish
01-19-2005, 05:31 PM
Last year we had two girls on our team, and they did PR stuff. This year we have like five girls on the team (1 in auxilary,1 in drive and 3 PR).

ArmoredFairy698
01-22-2005, 05:07 PM
Well lets see. Just to start, I am a girl. This is my second year on the HHS Robotics Team #698, and I've been told I'm one of the top kids in the class/club. Last year, I was the secretary, and this year I am the press correspondant (I did run for President though).

I think alot of girls that join robotics teams are looked down on, but that seems to end once they prove themselves. Sometimes it just takes a year to fall into it and get adjusted. Last year's AZ Regional was my shining moment. I really started to learn how everything worked, did work, and now I'm having a blast. I am a member of our Drive Train Team, and I spend all my time in the shop machining, building, wiring, you name it. They even call me the "Robo Chick."

I do believe that some girls are in the sport for the wrong reasons, but sometimes it takes time for them to realize that it's not for them. Instead of looking down on them, give them something to do! If they really don't want to do it, then they will leave, otherwise, you may just end up with another amazing team member full of talent. I've made a ton of friends that I will keep for life, and I've learned so much along the way. Every day I wake up the first thing that pops into my mind is "How long until I get to robotics class?!" It might sound corny, but by far, this is the most fun I've ever had and I love to get my hands greasy and get cut up. I'm a tom-boy, yes, but this is what I love to do. I am accepted by the both the boys and the girls on the team alike, and I love what I do.

We have about 20 kids in our robotics class, and an additional 10 or so in the club, but about 20 of us are hard core and show up everyday to build and work. Out of these 30 members, we only have 5 or 6 girls on the team, myself included. Most of them are hard working, and I know one of them is very into the animation and she wants to make a career out of it. She contributes to us greatly in that way. Another is on the Drive Team with me, and two of them work with our pneumatics systems. The other girls work on various projects, but both do a great deal of building and construction. Overall, most of the girls that join and discover that they are not interested leave within the first couple months of the school year. So by the time build season rolls around, anyone that doesn't really want to work won't show up again or has quit a long time before. The same goes for the boys.

In the end, we all seem to look at each other and regard each other the same. If you work and hold up your position, then you are a great asset to the team, otherwise, maybe it's not your thing and you need to find something else to do. Robotics isn't a cheerleader's club, but cheerleaders are welcome to join. On our team, it is everyone's individual responsibility to check their egos at the door, come in with a positive attitude, and be willing to work.

Girls are tough, we can do what the boys can do, and don't ever expect us to just sit in the corner and sweep.

By the way? How is your robot coming along? It's the end of week two. Our robot's base and drive system is fully assembled and it runs under power. It is complete except for additional programming and the arm. Good luck to you all! :]

KORN_lover_2007
01-23-2005, 02:06 PM
I am not exactly sure how many girls there are on our team, but there are a lot. And they do just as much of the important jobs as the guys do.

Hieb
01-23-2005, 02:54 PM
5 of our 15 members are girls. 3 are involved with the business end -- PR, Web design, fundraising, etc. The other 2 are responsible for about 95% of the structural build of our robot. We could also probably be further along than we are if not for those two having to spend almost a full day correcting mistakes by the guys on the electrical subteam who were "helping" after the girls left one day. And from a mentor/teacher standpoint, the best part of all is that they are freshmen.

Daniela B
01-23-2005, 11:44 PM
We have six girls on our team of 35 people and all of them work on the robot. I'm one of the three team welders.

cavegirl47
01-23-2005, 11:56 PM
I didn't read every single reply to your post on here, but I bet there are some other teams that are like mine. Our team has approximately 15-20 student members on it (depending on how you determine membership) and only one of those students is a girl: ME.

I don't know exactly how I became the only female on the team; last year we had probably 7 girls on a 25-member team, but apparently, when we lost some of our members, we lost ALL (or almost all) the girls at once. Anyway, it doesn't bother me that much, being the only girl there.

I am the marketing manager for GRR, as you can see from my signature, so I do most of the PR work, along with help from mainly my family. Unfortunately, we don't have many boys interested in anything other than the actual building of the robot (electronics, mechanics, computer design, etc.), so I am pretty much alone in the PR team. I worry that nobody will pay any attention to our need of money until it's too late and we find out we spent $6,000 for our kit of parts and first competition just to find out we didn't raise enough money to pay for transportation and a hotel.

On top of that, I am one of the 2 team captains, while the other is another senior boy, and, according to our school's last pep rally and this boy's constant reminders, we are the Team King and Queen (don't ask). I've been at the shop almost every day, excluding Sundays when the team rests and yesterday to do a band audition and go to my winter formal. I've been involved in all the decision-making about our robot's design, and I plan to do anything I can in the shop (electronics, mechanics, computer design, etc.) that they need me to do, despite the fact that I have almost no experience in machining or doing programming.

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, since I have the added responsibility of getting our PR packets and presentations out to businesses, in my own spare time, on top of doing all the robotics work at the shop each day. But I still love it, and I can't wait to see how our robot turns out. After all, this is what I want to do with my life - I want to work for NASA in the future, possibly on robotic missions at the Jet Propulsions Laboratory, in Pasedena, CA.

Well, that's about it. I'm going to go do homework now so I can continue my never-ending education. Good luck to all of you! I hope to see some of you at the Sacramento Regional, if we can ever get the money to go there!

nkauj_ntxoo16
01-24-2005, 01:49 PM
There is 17/34 girls on my team. We also have two CADET (Classmates Aspiring to Develop Engineering and Technology) girls on our team too! All of the girls are divided into different subteams and has different jobs or roles for the team. To emphasize, one of the girls is working on our team website, 2+ girls are the photographers along w/ other guys, 6 girls on the spirit team, and there are plenty of other jobs that my team has enrolled for everyone.

The good thing is that one or maybe even two girls will be on the drive team for this year's competitions!!

fefie
01-24-2005, 03:01 PM
There are about 20 people on our team, Nobotics (1304). I am please to inform you that about half of the people on our team are females, and half of those females are active in the construction of the robot, including me. Thre are a few more males than females working on the robot, but nobody is forced to do a certain job.

roboticsnerd698
01-25-2005, 09:27 PM
Okay, this is a pet peeve of mine. If your motivation for doing something is "to break stereotypes" you are defining your actions in the context of a broken system and playing into the hands of the "adversary", be it the male patriarchy, the vast right-wing conspiracy, or the RIAA.

Feminists often get a bad rap for this, modeling their lives around the inverse of stereotypes, which is a very low form of protest, as they are still allowing themselves to be controlled by the stereotype. Had the stereotype been otherwise, they would be acting differently, and thus are not thinking for themselves at all, but rather acting on a knee-jerk contrarian sentiment. Are you rebelling for the sake of rebelling? Is this really rebellion at all?

I'm sorry that you misunderstood my intention completely. This has nothing to do with rebellion or "breaking the stereotypes" as the DRIVING FORCE. At our school, I have been called a disgrace to girls mearly because I was in robotics/programming--hence my comment for "breaking the stereotypes". If it comes off as COMPLETELY trying to rebel or demolish the former idea, I apologize. If you need clarification, read the comment posted by my dear friend ArmoredFairy698. Since the original post was that the all-girls team was hearing of girls as cheerleaders and non-relavant positions to robotics--hence the word STEREOTYPE--I was slightly taken-a-back at the statement. I am sorry that my message was not clear enough, offended you, gave you a misudnerstanding or played off your pet-peeve. That was not my intention. Again, I urge you to read ArmoredFairy698's post. It may be clearer for you--since it is worded differently. I, again, apologize.

phrontist
01-25-2005, 09:45 PM
I'm sorry that you misunderstood my intention completely. This has nothing to do with rebellion or "breaking the stereotypes" as the DRIVING FORCE. At our school, I have been called a disgrace to girls mearly because I was in robotics/programming--hence my comment for "breaking the stereotypes". If it comes off as COMPLETELY trying to rebel or demolish the former idea, I apologize. If you need clarification, read the comment posted by my dear friend ArmoredFairy698. Since the original post was that the all-girls team was hearing of girls as cheerleaders and non-relavant positions to robotics--hence the word STEREOTYPE--I was slightly taken-a-back at the statement. I am sorry that my message was not clear enough, offended you, gave you a misudnerstanding or played off your pet-peeve. That was not my intention. Again, I urge you to read ArmoredFairy698's post. It may be clearer for you--since it is worded differently. I, again, apologize.

No need to apologize at all. Really. It was a simple miscommunication on both our parts.

xFlashbacksx
01-25-2005, 09:54 PM
Well on our team of 18...5 of us are girls. I a girl am the club's president and this just happens to be my second year on the team Flashbacks..I agree though that many girls are looked down upon that join robotics because its usually not viewed as something a woman would do....All of the girls on the team do many things from writing the chairman's award essay to fundraising to mechanics or electronics. We dont really have role discrimination in our team everyone kind of does everything. Its pretty fun lol :D. And I think it really cool how you are an all girls team. What regionals you guys going to??? Maybe we will see each other. We team #168 will be at the orlando regionals and the georgia nationals hope to see you :D

sanddrag
01-25-2005, 09:57 PM
This year 696 has one female student who is doing electronics/machining/programming and a female engineer who is focused mainly on electronics/sensors/programming. This is a big improvement over 0 females last year.

RY-GUY
01-25-2005, 09:59 PM
HILOW we are team 1566 and well being a rookie team we only have three girls on our team, out of twenty-five of us, and they do anything from programming to html codeing on our webpage. I hope this is helpful. :cool:

Ryan

HPA_Robotics_13
01-26-2005, 03:01 AM
HPA Robotics currently has 4 female team members, if you count the student that is our videographer. Of the 3 students on our team who are currently doing their 3rd or 4th year of FIRST, 2 are girls (I am the third). One of the two is both our lead electrical engineer and software engineer, the other dabbles in a bit of everything, seems to prefer mechanical work, and is potentially next year's replacement for my position as team captain. The 4th female team member is a junior new to our school this year, who was on a FIRST robotics team as a sophomore. She is on our programming team and also helps out a lot with both electrical and mechanical.

Our team essentially has 5 or 6 students who have the experience and maturity to actually make decisions and solve the hard problems, the rest of the team is new to FIRST. They still need to learn, and want to be told what to do. Of those 5-6 lead students, 3 are female.

I haven't read any of this thread (it's too long!), but from my team's point of view, FIRST is definitely not male-dominated. In fact, I'd say in that in the high school world, FIRST is one of the few places that sexual equality is easily proven.

Erin Rapacki
01-26-2005, 09:38 AM
I have a unique perspective on this; much of it is due to my personal experience:

I am female (duh :rolleyes: ). During high school I was one of 5 females on a team of 20 students. I entered the team without any technological knowledge, so I sought information and education on how to machine, prototype, and design. I had mild success but I found a greater passion: the PR, the awards, being interviewed with judges, and event organization. Next to that stuff I still machined parts in the shop and enjoyed it, could I do both?

I went to school to study Mechanical Engineering because robots are cool and I was a FIRST female who wanted to break the stereotype. After two years in college I realized that I was trying to be somebody I'm not. I'm not a designer, I'm not a person absolutely enjoys taking things apart & putting them back together again, and I'm not a person who enjoys talking about gear boxes all throughout a FIRST gathering after a regional. All I was doing was breaking a stereotype, but in order to be true to Who I Am I decided that life isn't about being who you want to be, but being who you are.

I'm a person who can make ideas happen. I can dream up a FIRST off-season competition, ask people for a tens of thousands of dollars, and organize the event. I enjoy making my ideas turn into reality. I feel like more of an entrepreneur. Oh great, another FIRST female going into business - Not Really. I'm now studying Industrial Engineering and I'm loving it! However, I do want to get a high-tech MBA afterwords.

Basically, I want to be a person who creates jobs for engineers. Not one of those engineers who fill a position.

I want to learn how to weld, machine better, and I enjoy working on FIRST robots with teams who need the help (not teams with 7 engineers who've been working together for ten years and are set in their ways). But this is only a hobby. I'm not tech-minded, I wasn't raised to be, and what I'm good at/enjoy can make me a lot of money in the future.

Girls, if you are techy, great! If you're not, don't worry about it. We're all good at something and FIRST can show you what that is. Just remember, be true to WHO YOU ARE.


erin

DeathMonkey
01-27-2005, 05:11 PM
well on 481's team we have about 3 girls on our team. one of them is even the Captain!! as far as their jobs go they get down and do just as much if not more of the heavy machine duty than the rest of the team. For anyone who doesn't know about Alyssa then you are missing out. she is the heart, soul, muscle, and mind of our team and you would be hard pressed to find someone more dedicated. to put it simply, that girl makes the team what it is. even as one of the guys I can see her worth to all of us.

JamizzleHavok13
01-28-2005, 07:36 AM
Sonia -- Image with Brittany W. (unsure exactly what she does.)
Heh. Very true. Since this year's my rookie year, I don't know much about previous years, but I'm really glad there are a good amount of girls this year, and we're actually doing a lot of work, and doing it separately instead of flocking all together.

Lazarus (Adam)
01-28-2005, 08:49 AM
We don't have many girls on our team- currently we have 4 girls-but all of them do as much work as the boys. ;)

Megas_xlr
01-28-2005, 01:37 PM
Hi well i'm the only girl in the team and i'm the manager. I'm the one in charge of all the project :ahh: I'd just like to tell you all guys that it's really hard to work with all guys please be nice to them and include them in all the activties, sometimes girls don't do anything because they don't know anything that is why you guys have to help them and explain stuff and don't treat them like they're stupid

We're actually pretty smart and helpfull :)

cheers

Kyle Love
01-28-2005, 02:40 PM
45 now has 6 or 7 girls on our team now. They are master spacer makers. They also help with the Chairmans and Woodie Flowers awards. Last year we didn't have any that went to the regionals. But IRI, we had a few go and they actually stayed on the team, so now we won't be an "all boy" team anymore! :)

phrontist
01-28-2005, 02:58 PM
I have a unique perspective on this; much of it is due to my personal experience:

I am female (duh :rolleyes: ). During high school I was one of 5 females on a team of 20 students. I entered the team without any technological knowledge, so I sought information and education on how to machine, prototype, and design. I had mild success but I found a greater passion: the PR, the awards, being interviewed with judges, and event organization. Next to that stuff I still machined parts in the shop and enjoyed it, could I do both?

I went to school to study Mechanical Engineering because robots are cool and I was a FIRST female who wanted to break the stereotype. After two years in college I realized that I was trying to be somebody I'm not. I'm not a designer, I'm not a person absolutely enjoys taking things apart & putting them back together again, and I'm not a person who enjoys talking about gear boxes all throughout a FIRST gathering after a regional. All I was doing was breaking a stereotype, but in order to be true to Who I Am I decided that life isn't about being who you want to be, but being who you are.

I'm a person who can make ideas happen. I can dream up a FIRST off-season competition, ask people for a tens of thousands of dollars, and organize the event. I enjoy making my ideas turn into reality. I feel like more of an entrepreneur. Oh great, another FIRST female going into business - Not Really. I'm now studying Industrial Engineering and I'm loving it! However, I do want to get a high-tech MBA afterwords.

Basically, I want to be a person who creates jobs for engineers. Not one of those engineers who fill a position.

I want to learn how to weld, machine better, and I enjoy working on FIRST robots with teams who need the help (not teams with 7 engineers who've been working together for ten years and are set in their ways). But this is only a hobby. I'm not tech-minded, I wasn't raised to be, and what I'm good at/enjoy can make me a lot of money in the future.

Girls, if you are techy, great! If you're not, don't worry about it. We're all good at something and FIRST can show you what that is. Just remember, be true to WHO YOU ARE.


erin

Thats exactly what I was failing so miserably at saying. :o

ElGeeko
01-28-2005, 03:10 PM
Our team captain is a girl as is our main mentor. Other than that, no other girls have joined the team.

Mike Ciance
01-28-2005, 03:24 PM
we have 3 girl members and 2 girl alumni who come to the meetings. the 3 girl members are all newbies this year so they have not had any huge jobs yet, but they help out whenever they can. the more involved of our female alumni (Kiwi_queen (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/member.php?u=3974)) is in charge of cheer/buttons/theming (known on our team as the Volcano Crew), and this is where the girl members mainly help out. our other girl alumni does not have enough time to get as involved, but she was on the battery crew for all 4 of her years as a member.

MXR1120
01-29-2005, 03:41 PM
I was quite mollified when I saw this topic here at ChiefDeliphi. It interested me to see the roles of girls on other teams, as I have always wondered, Are the girls on the other teams doing the same things as me?

My name is Joy, and I am a fifteen-year-old sophomore at my school. I am one of the few rookies on the team this year, this being my first year. I've been interested in Robotics since I-don't-know-when, because my dad is an engineer and I've been exposed to the atmosphere for a fairly long time. I love electronics, and hence I am one of the two electronics apprentices. The other apprentice is a freshman, of the male gender. XD

There are 22 students who have signed up to be on the team, 15 of whom are active. And of those 15, 5 of us are girls: 1 freshman, 1 sophomore (me), 2 juniors, and 1 senior. Diverse, no? What's more, is that 1 junior and the senior girls have been members for more than a year. They are also council members, secretary and treasurer. Not much, you might say. But I say that their being on the council made me want to join even more.

Like I said, I am an electronics apprentice. This means that I'm learning on how to work on the electronics, how things work, and why. I love it! :D It's just one of the things that I love, I suppose. I am also on the chassis team, helping to build the robot.

Relationships between the girls and the guys here are quite easy-going, and everyone works great with anyone else. However, (yes folks, however) there are times when I myself feel that the guys think they know more. But of course, this might be due to the fact that I'm just a rookie. -__-; So really, I can't speak.

I must say, though, that many people find it hard to believe that I am on the Robotics team in the first place. This is because my other love is Art & Theater, which by the way, is no easy task, either. Still, the jump from Theater to Robotics is still pretty big, and balancing the two would be yet another wall to scale. Yes, with the Spring Musical coming up as well, this will be a pretty interesting season.

Ciao,
~Joy

cmurdoch
01-29-2005, 11:49 PM
I'm not sure how many girls are on our team exactly, but they're involved in all areas. It's true that most of them end up doing administrative jobs like fundraising, but we have girls on our mechanical and electrical teams. I, for one, am the only girl programmer on my team :( But maybe I can recruit others for next year. Just thought I'd share.

Sam Lipscomb
01-30-2005, 09:38 AM
We have 7 girls out of 22 total students...3 are freshmen, 3 are juniors, and 1 is a senior. We have no sophomore girls, but that's because there are only 4 sophomores on our team. :rolleyes:

Most of our girls are actually in PR...I'm editor of the newsletter and webmaster for our site, another girl is head of scouting, another puts together our Chairman's Award. But we all get involved in the construction process whenever we can, and our backup driver and operator are female, so next year we'll probably have a predominantly female drive team.

Our 3 captains are male, but with only 1 senior girl, that's not surprising. Next year, will a good number of the juniors being female, we'll probably have a more diverse group of captains.

The girls on our team work well with the guys: anything related to girls not being able to do something because of their gender is a joke, and is taken as such. We're all friends here! :D

'lil Gach
01-30-2005, 10:35 AM
Well we have 10 girls (about) on our team.. All the girls range in different jobs... I know that on the electrical team there are 4 girls me included. I am the leader on the electrical team... So I mean there are a lot of girls that get involved with the robot.. One of our girls also does mechanical. Then there is one girl on software.. It is her first year on the team and she already knows more about software then I do! But that is ok because she is cool! Then we have one girl on playing field who is also a freshman and she does a lot with that! Then we have 2 of our girls on video.. Which they do an awesome job with we always have a good end of the year video!!!!! So on our team girls have the same amount of envolvement as the guys... There are just more guys then there are girls!

KelliV
01-30-2005, 10:55 AM
On WildStang we have 10 girls on the team (i think) and I am happy to say that we all do a lot of work on different areas of the robot.
One thing that I do want to say is that publicity and cheerleading is not a bad thing. I am the head of the video team which is like publicity and to tell you the truth it is a good asset to the team. Whenever the software team wants to immediately check auto mode they can using our taped matches. Movies also give schools around the US a chance to see FIRST though the eyes of students.
Also cheerleader is a noble role for a FIRSTer, be it male or female, how else are the other teams going to know you are there? Also cheering lets people on your team playing active roles in compititions, not everyone can drive, but everyone can gather up in a large clump of FIRST spirit and cheer their hearts out!

WildStang also has 4 female members on their 7 member chairman's team.

ConKbot of Doom
01-30-2005, 06:40 PM
We have a team of 37 this year, and 5 girls. 1 is head of draftsmen (they have been sorely under-worked this year, somehow we got 5 draftsmen, and only need 1 or 2) 2 do photo/video stuff and 2 do pr/team spirit.

But we are a technical school, so our main girl student body is in Cosmetology, Floral design, landscaping, Health occupations, agriculture. But there is a significant number also in Printing, and CAD though. 3 of the 5 come from CAD, and the other 2 are in CANT (Computers and Networking Technology, the seniors last year came up with it and it stuck) I was hoping for more girls, but that is how things go.

But the one who is our lead draftsmen likes to use the mill, so when she has the work done, and no freshman to wrangle, she does that.

newgrl101
01-30-2005, 08:29 PM
Well, on our team, there are about 17 people on our team, 696, and we only have one girl.....me. Basically, my job includes programing, electrical, and machining. I am also partially incharge of fundraising efforts on the team. :]
But the truth is, it really is hard to be the only or one out of three girls on a team because no one takes you seriously. To All the guys out there: don't exclude girls or make fun of them, because really, we are just as strong. :cool:

Ryo_Himura
02-01-2005, 03:02 PM
The girls on my team have varying positions in programming, publicity, animation, building the actual robot. Basically there is at least 1 or 2 girls in each of the committees

Shu Song
02-01-2005, 03:12 PM
Three of the five girls we have this year are on electronics, the other two do mechanical. They are all very talented and eager to learn. Having girls on the team definitely spices up the atmosphere.

darragon
02-01-2005, 07:27 PM
well !st semester we only had one girl and she was doing programing and electronics,but now we have 3,(1+2) and the other 2 are doing web crap for us, codeing and camra-ing, and such.so ya not to many to my dissatisfation..i would love to have more girls on my team...email me ladys!!!!

Kyle
02-01-2005, 07:38 PM
This year MOE has I think 9 girls, a new record for us. The girls all have very important roles on the team, one of them Melissa fox(Mclissa) is head of the pneumatics team, others are on our drive train team, web and animation teams, programing and electrical also, I think that there is a girl on each of our sub teams this year. I think it is great to have girls on the team, and thats not just because I am a guy and enjoy the company of girls. The girls have given us new and fresh ideas and have helped keep some of us guys in check during some of the meetings. :)

roboticsnerd698
02-01-2005, 10:02 PM
I was quite mollified when I saw this topic here at ChiefDeliphi. It interested me to see the roles of girls on other teams, as I have always wondered, Are the girls on the other teams doing the same things as me?

My name is Joy, and I am a fifteen-year-old sophomore at my school. I am one of the few rookies on the team this year, this being my first year. I've been interested in Robotics since I-don't-know-when, because my dad is an engineer and I've been exposed to the atmosphere for a fairly long time. I love electronics, and hence I am one of the two electronics apprentices. The other apprentice is a freshman, of the male gender. XD

There are 22 students who have signed up to be on the team, 15 of whom are active. And of those 15, 5 of us are girls: 1 freshman, 1 sophomore (me), 2 juniors, and 1 senior. Diverse, no? What's more, is that 1 junior and the senior girls have been members for more than a year. They are also council members, secretary and treasurer. Not much, you might say. But I say that their being on the council made me want to join even more.

Like I said, I am an electronics apprentice. This means that I'm learning on how to work on the electronics, how things work, and why. I love it! :D It's just one of the things that I love, I suppose. I am also on the chassis team, helping to build the robot.

Relationships between the girls and the guys here are quite easy-going, and everyone works great with anyone else. However, (yes folks, however) there are times when I myself feel that the guys think they know more. But of course, this might be due to the fact that I'm just a rookie. -__-; So really, I can't speak.

I must say, though, that many people find it hard to believe that I am on the Robotics team in the first place. This is because my other love is Art & Theater, which by the way, is no easy task, either. Still, the jump from Theater to Robotics is still pretty big, and balancing the two would be yet another wall to scale. Yes, with the Spring Musical coming up as well, this will be a pretty interesting season.

Ciao,
~Joy

Girl you awesome! This is my first year too, and I am a dancer as well. I work on the "frame and drive train" team as well as an arm team. It's so much fun and I understand that whole balance issue. Also, the guys around our team think they know more than we girls (which is mostly true in my case, but hey I'm learning!) but most of them don't know enough to have "security under their belts." Our GREAT president does, this being his fourth year, and he is the one teaching me. Him and ArmoredFairy698 (sp?) are my tutors this year--not to mention my two best friends. I was on the team "unofficially" last year, and I know it's tough. Balancing is hard, especially with two opposite ended spectrums, but hang in there! Robotics is so much fun and I'm glad I joined! That probablly had nothing to do with what you were saying, but I thought I'd add my two cents... :)

GoSparx
02-04-2005, 10:53 PM
We have 30 students on our team. 4 of the 30 our girls. 3 of the 4 are on the promotions team and do things that involve buying supplies, working the website, chairmans award woodies flowers award etc. The other girl is actually on the electronics team and is one of the best workers. She is also our lead strategist.

MyNameHere
02-05-2005, 08:39 AM
there are two girls on the team this year. one does CAD and the other one does marketing and floats between sub-groups that need help

LexDeForge
02-05-2005, 11:26 AM
Well, being an all girls school, Elmwood's team is 100% female. However, all of our mentors are guys/men.

The information you were actually looking for: We've got a team of 25 girls, and 6 mentors.

avwilloughby
02-05-2005, 02:18 PM
We have seven girls on a team of thirty. Our girls are very active and participate on each of our four committees. Three of these girls are student managers for the team. They are AMAZING!!!! They do so much for the team. However, we find it very surprising that only 23% of our team is female. Thus it would be quite nice if we could get more girls to participate. We have girls building, working with our logo and public relations as well as helping wherever they can. It brings an unusal, but much needed balance to the team. So, girls, everywhere! get involved!! And for those that are, kudos and keep keepin' it real...

vic burg
02-05-2005, 02:37 PM
on 108 we have about, 10-15 girls on the team. there are about 40 people on our team. most of the other girls, actually, all the other girls are on PR or Graphics or animations or something like that. i'm on mechanical. i beleive that there is one other girl.im basically the only girl that works. but, the other girls on the team do do amazing work. and im proud that they do what they do. the fact that about, half of them show up to the meetings is disappointing. but, the ones that do, are good at what they do.