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Matthew_H
01-10-2004, 07:41 PM
We just checked our KOP and have found some things missing. The most important is the 40amp Maxi Fuse holder. How many other teams are missing items and are any missing some of the important pieces?


Ubergeeks

Tytus Gerrish
01-10-2004, 07:50 PM
were missing pieces to the prefab helical transmitions

KevinB
01-10-2004, 07:55 PM
We are missing various stuff -- at least the maxi fuse holder and a servo.

I also didn't see the rotating pneumatic actuator, but I think you might have to order it separately.

Joe Matt
01-10-2004, 08:03 PM
We are also missing some things.

KenWittlief
01-10-2004, 08:14 PM
this happened last year. Some parts were not available when the kits were assembled, and FIRST fedex'd em within a few days.

might be the same story this year - expect a team update or a bulletin on their message board in the next few days to address the misc loose ends.

FotoPlasma
01-10-2004, 08:22 PM
The Maxi fuse block is a clear plexiglass block. It is completely different from last year's block. It is a standard part from a car audio system.

DaBruteForceGuy
01-10-2004, 08:24 PM
The Maxi fuse block is a clear plexiglass block. It is completely different from last year's block. It is a standard part from a car audio system.


most of the time they do forget stuff, just make sure to check for EVERYTHING, and just tell FIRST and they'll send it.

Andrew Rudolph
01-10-2004, 09:12 PM
We are missing some pneumatics hardware a servo and the maxi block.

sanddrag
01-10-2004, 09:31 PM
So far all that seems to be missing is a servo.

shyra1353
01-10-2004, 09:36 PM
you guys are all lucky ..we just finished inventory and we are missing full bags of things ... like there is no bag at all .. for more than one thing ... im going to cry




edit/: i am crying ...

Tytus Gerrish
01-10-2004, 10:11 PM
i havent found the yellow backup batery is it Even in here?

Bduggan04
01-10-2004, 10:36 PM
As I posted in another thread, I think that the yellow battery is the edubot battery or you can use any 7.2v battery. The rotary cylinder demonstration was meant as an example of a cylinder you can use now that they loosened the pnuematic restrictions. You can now use any cylinder rated for 60psi. Also as a note for anyone missing components, FIRST states in the manual that they in low supplies of spare components. All missing or broken kit parts must be reported to FIRST by January 16th. Double check to make sure you didn't overlook them (The pneumatic stuff is hidden well in the tubing bag) and read the manual on how to report lost items.

MichalSkiba
01-10-2004, 10:41 PM
We're missing an IR FET, in addition to some random mechanical parts. Our count is 7 individual pieces I believe.

D.J. Fluck
01-10-2004, 10:48 PM
If I am not mistaken, the Maxi Block was in the cardboard box.

Thats where we found ours, unless someone moved it over to there before I got to take a look in the kit

Stephen Kowski
01-10-2004, 10:54 PM
missing a servo, and i haven't seen the Maxi block either....

dprovin662
01-10-2004, 10:58 PM
I know we(662) are missing a few parts from the kit completly and others it says we should have 8 and we have 6

-Derek Provin
-Team 662
-Rocky Mountain Robotics

Not2B
01-10-2004, 11:00 PM
1 servo, several pneumatic parts, others... happened last year too, they'll fix it.

Jeff_Rice
01-10-2004, 11:01 PM
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.

Joe3
01-10-2004, 11:42 PM
We, too, are missing a servo. It appeared that evereything else was there though.

Andrew Rudolph
01-11-2004, 01:09 AM
>From FRC Parts:
Read Section 5.3.1 All instructions are listed on how to obtain missing or broken parts and get them replaced. Extra parts are at a real low this year, so we just please ask, make sure you look carefully for everything before faxing your list to FIRST looking for replacements. Teams only have until JAnuary 16, 2004 to determine what parts in the kit are missing and let FRCParts know. After that, it's just too late.
ALso, Keep looking at the FIRST web site for updated parts information such as spec sheets and a listing of what parts will be available at competitions.

hope this helps you all

Doug G
01-11-2004, 09:11 AM
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.

Ditto for our team as well... Perhaps others are missing these same pieces and they will send a separate shipment with them. Can anyone else confirm these same items missing? The pnuematics stuff we're missing included the second Double Solenoid and some fittings.

generalbrando
01-11-2004, 10:15 AM
Every take a second look for that 40 amp fuse block - it should be there it just looks completely different!

If you're missing parts, check out the 5.3.1.2 "New - Kit INventory" on page 8 of The Robot. To get your missing parts you need to print out a copy of The Kit, write your teams number on every page, check off what's missing, and fax it to 603-666-0043, attn: FRC Parts.

Hope this helps - good luck to all!

Marygrace
01-11-2004, 10:57 PM
We are missing a whole bunch of stuff too. A servo, some spacers, and a whole bag....I think it was the window motor bag....one of the motor bags. We have to call FIRST tommorow, glad to hear we aren't the only ones. Its a big relief. :)

shyra1353
01-11-2004, 11:17 PM
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.
Ditto for our team as well... Perhaps others are missing these same pieces and they will send a separate shipment with them. Can anyone else confirm these same items missing? The pnuematics stuff we're missing included the second Double Solenoid and some fittings.

we are missing all of this stuff and more, the more including 2 motors, a lot of the spacers, feed-through terminal block, the back-up battery, and a lot of the items that were listed as Loose in the Red Container, as well as a few other things.

Jay Lundy
01-11-2004, 11:22 PM
We're missing one of the PC boards for the current sensors.

EStokely
01-12-2004, 02:14 AM
Adding to the overall noise and to feel better after I post it.

We (360) are missing 1 servo, the maxi block (we looked for it, its just not there) And the precut parts for the plastic gear housing are all messed up. 4 of some zero of others.

Happy about getting the window motor connectors this year (we didn't last year)

Having fun in the North West

wun
01-12-2004, 09:51 AM
We are missing:

1 servo
1 master link
1 half link
1 IR LED
Some various phumatic parts
Something to plug up the big yellow ball after it is blowen up
Various spacer seals
1 solenoid valve
And, most importatntly, a rubber band :yikes:

And we have too many...

2 3/4'' aluminum spacer pipe

bigqueue
01-12-2004, 09:59 AM
We just checked our KOP and have found some things missing. The most important is the 40amp Maxi Fuse holder. How many other teams are missing items and are any missing some of the important pieces?


Ubergeeks


Our 40A fules holder was in the Software box. (If I recall correctly)

That box also had a couple of sprockets and the schematic for building the beacon.

-Quentin

:yikes:

EIROBOTICS86
01-12-2004, 04:08 PM
anyone missing the pneumatic cable

Quine
01-12-2004, 07:33 PM
Our team is missing the following parts:
Servo
Terminal Back
Pneumatics Kit
Software/documentation
Sprockets
40amp Maxi Fuse holder
Other misc things...
We don't have the materials to program yet, looks like we'll be using a 3rd party compiler.

Meredith Rice
01-12-2004, 07:54 PM
We are missing 43 items total. Lots of the same items that other people are mentioning too (servo, master link chain, IR beacon, all but two kinds of spacers, solenoid valve.....list goes on). I guess FIRST will have received quite a bit of faxes come Friday.

Aignam
01-12-2004, 08:21 PM
i havent found the yellow backup batery is it Even in here?
The backup battery is in the EduRobotics kit.

M. Hicken
01-12-2004, 09:10 PM
i only had time to check in the red crate today and im missing a servo and a bearing plate

question: the white LED's, does everyone have just the bare leads, not the longer wired and housing with them? mine are just plain old led's no extra thing like the amber or green

Tom Bottiglieri
01-12-2004, 09:15 PM
yeah it seems as if everyone is missing a servo.. so are we.. and both 2 inch gear things...umm i dont know what they are , but theyre fat and come in the same bag as the chain

generalbrando
01-12-2004, 09:18 PM
i only had time to check in the red crate today and im missing a servo and a bearing plate

question: the white LED's, does everyone have just the bare leads, not the longer wired and housing with them? mine are just plain old led's no extra thing like the amber or green
That's what ours were like.

generalbrando
01-12-2004, 09:19 PM
I know that some of you really are missing that 40 amp maxi block, but for those that are still lost, would a picture help? I don't have one, but I'll make a point to get one on here tomorrow if you want.

dddriveman
01-12-2004, 09:22 PM
We are missing our C programing stuff and a loose bag containing the sprokets and many other importANT PARTS. How do why go about notifying first?

generalbrando
01-12-2004, 09:25 PM
Read page 8 of "The Robot"

Jedi Padawan
01-12-2004, 10:52 PM
We are I beleive (I haven't double checked yet) but preliminary counts include a 40 amp maxi (may have been found I'll have to check with my mentor who did some extra digging) and a servo motor (thats all I know of electrically) and I know we are missing the servo for a fact, as well as other odds and ends pieces. :ahh:

Rickertsen2
01-12-2004, 10:57 PM
We are missing our C programing That came w/the edubot.

Alaina
01-12-2004, 11:45 PM
A guy on my team made a fairly large list of things in which we are missing.
One thing I can remember is all of the steel spacers.

tchescow
01-13-2004, 01:10 PM
We've got some missing parts:

Blue:
Electrical bag (small): one servo, one PWM/Relay Y cable
Sensor bag: IR Beacon - resistors
The whole terminal supply bag

Red:
The whole loose bag (spacers, pipe..)
The whole documentation bag

Separate box:
Loose (Visio, Visual Studio C, Front Page..)
Miscellaneous bag
Direct (Inventor...)
Edu replacement board

anish
01-13-2004, 01:18 PM
I'm not too familiar with the kit of parts but i inventoried and i couldnt find the following from the checklist:

Blue Box:
CIM/Globe Bag - Key Stock, Metric
Electric Bag (small) - 1 Servo
Pneumatics SMC - Pneumatics Kit, Fitting, Male Run T 1/8 NPT ~1/4" Tube
Sensor Bag - IR Beacon - Resistors
Loose - (MM) Spacer, Steel
(TR) Spacer, Steel
(GB) Spacer, Pipe, for Gear Box, Aluminum
Valve SIngle Solenoid

Red Box:
Documentation Bag - Discovering Fluid Power CDROM
Pneumatics 2 - Pneumatics Kit, 0-160psi Gauge for Norgren Regulator, Wika
note: we did get a 0-60psi gauge, no brand on the item or box, perhaps this is a typo in the KOP?

Please help me figure out, maybe some of this stuff is attached to other items so im not finding them. This seems like a lot to be missing... If there are a few things i can square away before bugging FIRST itd probably help them out.

Thanks for the help,

Anish.

Greg Needel
01-13-2004, 02:44 PM
we hav everything except 1 servo and that inroduction to fluids cd-rom

tchescow
01-13-2004, 03:14 PM
We're taking time to review everything... other things are probably missing... for now, we could find the same 0-160psi Gauge for Norgren Regulator, Wika problem... :rolleyes:

ReggieB
01-13-2004, 08:11 PM
Our missing list:
-Spacers (see other thread)
-pneumatics kit, fitting, male run T 1/8 npt-1/4" tube. SMC
-THe pneum. kit fittings straight and elbow that are x20 seem to be 2x10, with half black plastic half white/orange
-Servo (although it looks like everyone is)
-one of the gearbox pillow block half
-need to double check on maxi block, didnt see it, but might have been looking at the wrong thing.
-the double solenoid seems to be in 2 big and 4 small pieces, is this normal?
-when they say '2' under double solenoid, do they mean the two pieces, or two solenoids?

Here are pictures of ALL of our pneu. parts, is this what other people have? Specifically the stuff on the right in the wide shot. Also, what's that other black thing, flat, about 1cmx2cm, thin, 3 holes in it?

Sachiel7
01-14-2004, 11:10 AM
I think we got a bit lucky! We got TOO MUCH in our kit!
We have 2 sensor bags, our spacers are the wrong amount (too many) of each. I know we aren't missing anything big... the plug for our yellow ball. But most of its there, just some odds and ends. Oh, and I think we're missing a single solenoid.

Ryan Albright
01-20-2004, 05:53 PM
we just got our kit today and we are missing alot of stuff

|Everythign to do with the robot interface
sensor bag
one of the pneumatic bags
and a bunch of loose stuff

Arefin Bari
01-20-2004, 10:45 PM
we are missing a whole electrical bag, sprockets and lot more..... :ahh:

Drew Hopman
01-20-2004, 10:53 PM
Blue Box:
Control System accessories:
- Relay Module (spike)

missing 4

- Power Supply for Operator Interface missing 1

- Speed Controller (victor 884) missing 4

Control System Box:
- Radio Modem for Robot Controller missing 1

- Radio Modem for Operator Interface missing 1

- Robot Controller missing 1

- Operator Interface missing 1



Sensor Bag:
- Ir Beacon- victor board missing 1

- Current Sensor – Tantalem Capacitors missing 2

- Ir Beacon- Fet’s missing 2

- Ir Beacon Led’s missing 10

- Ir Beacon- resistors missing 8

- Ir Beacon – 3pin connectors missing 2

- Current Sensor missing 2

- World Beam Diffuse sensor w/screws missing 2

- Ir Beacon- photo detector (receiver) missing 5

- Current Sensor- Printed Circuit Board missing 2

Pneumatics – SMC:
- Pneumatics Kit, double solenoid base ported valve, SMC missing 2

- Pneumatics Kit, flow control, SMC missing 6

- Pneumatics Kit, fitting, straight ¼” tube, SMC missing 20

- Pneumatics Kit, fitting, 90 Elbow 1/” tube, SMC missing 20

- Pneumatics Kit, Tee Union ¼” tube, SMC missing 5

- Pneumatics Kit, Fitting, Male Run T 1/8 npt~1/4 tube SMC missing 5

- Pneumatics Kit, ¼” OD tubing, SMC missing 1

Seat/Window Bag:
- Nippon-Denso Motor, Window, Right missing 2





SEPARATE BOX:

1. Documentation Bag:

- FedEx Pouches

missing 2

- Discovering Fluid Power CDROM

missing 1



RED BOX:

1. Loose:

- Valve- Single Solenoid missing 1



I think that we were the only team that didnt recieve anything for controlls.

Ryan Albright
01-21-2004, 06:11 PM
we didnt receive anyhting for controls except the joy sticks

Robo-Knights
02-05-2004, 12:17 PM
Where can we purchase the :

pneumatics Kit, Fitting Male Run T 1/8 NpT 1/4 tube

Pneumatic Kit pressure switch opens @ 115psi closes @95psi :

registered665
02-05-2004, 07:52 PM
yea, we at team 665 is missing two middle motor mounts. FIRST gave us two extra rear instead. go figure. we were wondering if anyone would like to trade with us.