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sanddrag
01-08-2005, 11:49 PM
Who is missing parts from their kit and what are you missing? We are missing the LED clusters, a Globe motor, a Van door motor, and maybe some small other stuff. Also, the one Van Door motor we got had a red sticker on it. On the sticker was the hand written word "Bad" That does not put confidence in me. (But overall a very nice kit).

n0cturnalxb
01-08-2005, 11:51 PM
We're missing the LEDs and I have no idea what else. I wasn't there when they were doing the inventory.. hoping they did the inventory correctly, buuut I think I should be able to trust them.

Mike Rush
01-09-2005, 12:07 AM
We are also missing a Globe and a Van Door motor as well as the two hall effect sensors. :(

Barry Bonzack
01-09-2005, 12:09 AM
We are also missing the LED clusters, a globe motor, a van door motor, and something to do with pneumatics i think. We also had some discrepancy of the part numbers of the window motors, but don't think it should be a big deal. Everything else looks great and can't wait to dig in.

J Flex 188
01-09-2005, 12:11 AM
You are to pick up the LED's at the regional events this year and mount them there. (questionable, but we have to accept that=)). We are also missing motors as well (the same ones i believe)

Dested
01-09-2005, 12:16 AM
Hmmm, no light cluster here either... Our servos arent the right part number too. We are also missing a 2 window motors and im sure something else.

Jeffrafa
01-09-2005, 12:17 AM
We are missing the same two motors, globe and van door (we have 1 of each but the inventory says 2) as well as we are unsure about only having 1 pneumatics tank and we are missing a couple little things from pneumatics (just a few fittings, not a big deal)


As j flex said, it lists the LED clusters as something you recieve AT the event, somewhat odd i thought, but not a big deal.


Mike, as far as the hall effect sensors - look carefully, we found our hall effect sensors in the bubble wrap bag with the accelerometer actually stuck to the metal housing of the accelerometer (they are very small, only about 1/4" dia. and pretty short w' 4 pins sticking out of them.)

jgannon
01-09-2005, 12:18 AM
As J Flex mentioned, and as it says on the checklist, we don't get the LEDs until we get to the competition. I don't know what the logic is there, but whatever. Just make sure you have a place to mount them. Our team is missing a Globe (not that we care all that much... we really didn't much like them last year) and a few random small things.
On the sticker was the hand written word "Bad"
Oh man... and they still put it in your kit? :eek:

sanddrag
01-09-2005, 12:35 AM
Mike, as far as the hall effect sensors - look carefully, we found our hall effect sensors in the bubble wrap bag with the accelerometer actually stuck to the metal housing of the accelerometer (they are very small, only about 1/4" dia. and pretty short w' 4 pins sticking out of them.)That's where ours were too. It looked like part of the accerlerometer to me. Those really should have been in a separate little bog with how small they are.

Oh man... and they still put it in your kit? :eek:
Yes, and the Chiaphua motors were sitting in water. Not much water, but some components like the tetra connecters (luckily that is all) were just soaked. We were able to drip a little stream of water out of the fisher price gearboxes.

meaubry
01-09-2005, 07:37 AM
Seems to be a common issue. We also were missing a globe and Van Door motor as well as some pnuematic stuff.
As far as the window motors go - the jideco is identified on the part, but the other one isn't and the part number on the side doesn't match what the bill of materials identifies it as, but I know that it is the other window lift motor because of the gear on the end is the same and it fits the plastic coupling included in the kit.
We also got another motor (looks kinda like a drill motor in a bag with 2 sensors - I think) but I don't see that motor listed on the bill of materials, any help?

Bcahn836
01-09-2005, 08:45 AM
We are also missing a Globe and a Van Door motor as well as the two hall effect sensors. :(


We were missing the hall effect sensors, we found them hidden in the accelerometer module sensor. check there

we are also missing a globe motor and a master chain link i think that is it.
The Mabachi motor isn't in the kit, ours was handed to us as we walked out the door with our kit of parts

WOO HOO I now have 836 post. Weird :) :)

Lisa Perez
01-09-2005, 08:45 AM
We are missing a globe, a lead wire assembly, and a chain link.

Meaubry - maybe the mabuchi? It's in a different grouping on the list of parts.

Eric Reed
01-09-2005, 11:02 AM
I think the lead wires are attached to the pilot valves.

I wasn't able to find the taigene motor on the missing parts form...although admittedly I was sleepy...anyone else see it?

Eric

We are missing a globe, a lead wire assembly, and a chain link.

Meaubry - maybe the mabuchi? It's in a different grouping on the list of parts.

Joshua May
01-09-2005, 11:08 AM
I think we're missing the Hall Effect Gear Tooth Sensors, but they may be in the Accelerometer bag, I'll have to check tomorrow.

Yes, and the Chiaphua motors were sitting in water. Not much water, but some components like the tetra connecters (luckily that is all) were just soaked. We were able to drip a little stream of water out of the fisher price gearboxes.

Same happened to us, stupid rain.

Doug G
01-09-2005, 11:15 AM
We're missing one Tiagene van door motor, and one Master Link as well, and I think we're missing the Hall effect sensor also, but after reading this, I'll double check tomorrow that it isn't stuck on the accelerometer or something. I see the missing Taigene motor is missing from most kits, perhaps there'll be an quantity update soon, as that is a major item! Regarding the Master Link; perhaps that's why they had us get one with the Advance Materials List - I was wondering why we needed one Master Link for the field (and Lithium grease?).

Lisa Perez
01-09-2005, 11:53 AM
I think the lead wires are attached to the pilot valves.

That's where we were confused, because they list the assembly and the valves separately and each item has a description on the list. Also, their code numbers are different.

Alexander McGee
01-09-2005, 11:53 AM
We are also missing a Globe and a Van Door motor as well as the two hall effect sensors. :(

This is the exact equiptment we are missing. However, we also are missing the power supply for the operator interface.

Mr. Steve
01-09-2005, 11:54 AM
We are also missing the two motors that everyone else is we found the hall effects stuck to the accelerator in the bubble wrap. There is a second master link inside the chain box

Just wondering did anyone get a sub base (SY3000-27-1T), if so, what is it?

Joshua May
01-09-2005, 12:03 PM
I just checked back and we are missing one Globe Motor and one Van Door Motor as well.

jgannon
01-09-2005, 12:09 PM
There is a second master link inside the chain box
Thanks... that's one of the things we were missing.
Just wondering did anyone get a sub base (SY3000-27-1T), if so, what is it?
At our kickoff, they handed them to us separate from the KOP, with the Mabuchi motor. They are white pneumatics parts... can't tell you much more than that. I'm a programmer. :p

Jeffrafa
01-09-2005, 02:07 PM
Just wondering did anyone get a sub base (SY3000-27-1T), if so, what is it?
its the manifold peice to the double solenoid valves (SY3240-5LOZ). This year these valves didn't come assembled, so you half to screw the sub base on the bottom (don't forget the seal) then screw on each of the solenoids (listed Pilot valve SY114-6LOZ)

Hope this helps

Covey41
01-09-2005, 04:24 PM
I just read the FRC Q&A questions, I am amazed at the number of people who are asking about the LED Clusters.

I asked the question about the LED clusters at the Kickoff, and was told by Tony from IFI, that there was a question whether or not that they would be available for Kickoff. They also felt after the problems with the LED covers last year, getting new ones at each event, would ensure working LEDs.

And Yes these are the "New and Approved" version.

greenleader
01-09-2005, 05:20 PM
I found everything else but that. I see others refer to it as the Van Door Motor like last year.

Greenleader

Nitroxextreme
01-09-2005, 05:51 PM
This is the exact equiptment we are missing. However, we also are missing the power supply for the operator interface.

the power supply for the operator interface is not a battery it is ac adaptor


We are missing one of the taigene motors
however in the missing parts section of the team management program
it asks if we need left or right
how can u tell if the motor is left or right

tiffany34990
01-09-2005, 06:02 PM
yeah...thank goodness we did the inventory today....my team is missing a few motors and other things too.. :(

all well it'll come -- and gotta to recall to save a nice spot for the lights this year..it's weird we get it at a competition..all well

enjoy all the cool electronics and all in the kit of parts

shyra1353
01-09-2005, 06:13 PM
we are missing a Van Door motor and a Globe motor as well ..

and like sanddrag one of our motors is labeled bad, twice.

meaubry
01-09-2005, 07:04 PM
We are missing a globe, a lead wire assembly, and a chain link.

Meaubry - maybe the mabuchi? It's in a different grouping on the list of parts.

Thanks Lisa, you were correct on the Mabuchi. I also found the Hall effects snuggled up against the magnet on the other part in the bubble wrap bag.

Shawn60
01-09-2005, 09:30 PM
I am trying to place my missing part order on FRIST. I don't see the box for the Sliding door motor. Am I blind or is it not there.

Shawn
Team 60

Squirrelrock
01-10-2005, 08:17 AM
We are missing the same two motors, globe and van door (we have 1 of each but the inventory says 2) as well as we are unsure about only having 1 pneumatics tank and we are missing a couple little things from pneumatics (just a few fittings, not a big deal)


As j flex said, it lists the LED clusters as something you recieve AT the event, somewhat odd i thought, but not a big deal.


Mike, as far as the hall effect sensors - look carefully, we found our hall effect sensors in the bubble wrap bag with the accelerometer actually stuck to the metal housing of the accelerometer (they are very small, only about 1/4" dia. and pretty short w' 4 pins sticking out of them.)

617's missing the same motors as mentioned above, as well as one clippard tank, and a couple of other minor items. However, the gearboxes provided in the kit are awesome! They got put together really quickly after we found the small replacment set screws and the washers in another plastic bag.

Bob Steele
01-10-2005, 11:28 AM
1018 is missing the same stuff mentioned here by many

Taigene Van door motor (1)
Globe motor (1)

I am not sure whether we were "supposed" to get two (2) Clippard tanks or not..
the kit of parts says (1) .... the pneumatics manual talks of using (2) and the missing parts listing from TIMS has the number (2) which would indicate that we were supposed to get two as in previous years..questions have been submited to QA but no answers yet..

good luck

RoboMom
01-10-2005, 11:30 AM
Out to teams...

Greetings Teams:

Some immediate clarification on four very important issues:

LED Light Clusters
They were not supposed to be in the kit. They will be handed out at the regional events before your robot is inspected.

We apologize for the confusion in labeling this item as "Event Pick-up Item 6" on the Kit of Parts checklist.

Taigene Sliding Door Motor
The "Gray Container Item 5 Loose" should have contained 1 motor, not 2. The Kit of Parts list incorrectly specified a quantity of 2.

Globe Motor
The "Gray Container Item 5 Loose" should have contained 1 motor, not 2. The Kit of Parts list incorrectly specified a quantity of 2.

Purchasing Additional Parts
Please Do Not call MMH for additional parts. For 2005, Innovation First will be handling the sale of additional parts to teams.

Out to teams...

Greetings Teams:

The 2 Hall-Effect Gear Tooth sensors ARE in the Sensor Envelope. They are "stuck" to the sides of the Texas Instrument's Accelerometer magnet.

Please look very closely. They are not very big... ~ 5/16" diameter x 1/4" tall with 4 silver-colored leads protruding from them.

Thank you.

Elgin Clock
01-10-2005, 12:33 PM
For all team reps who went to Manchester to get their kits:

How many packages did you receive?

We got, one Black Bin, one Gray Bin, and one Kit-Bot Cardbord box.

Unfortunately, we are missing nearly every electrical component that is supposed to be in the electrical bag., includng the OI, Radio, and the new sensors.

:sigh:

Did we forget a bin/box at kickoff?

Joshua May
01-10-2005, 10:35 PM
For all team reps who went to Manchester to get their kits:

How many packages did you receive?

We got, one Black Bin, one Gray Bin, and one Kit-Bot Cardbord box.

Unfortunately, we are missing nearly every electrical component that is supposed to be in the electrical bag., includng the OI, Radio, and the new sensors.

:sigh:

Did we forget a bin/box at kickoff?

There should be another white box labelled electrical.

Also, I didn't see the FIRST Gearbox box listed in your list there.

ali_rockon22
01-11-2005, 12:30 AM
We are also missing a Globe Motor and a Van Door motor. And our Van Dor had a "Bad" sticker on it too.

sanddrag
01-11-2005, 12:32 AM
We are also missing a Globe Motor and a Van Door motor. No you're not. They sent out an update that said there is only supposed to be one of each in each kit.

indieFan
01-11-2005, 12:10 PM
Are the pilot valve and lead wire assy the same thing that is shown in the upper left hand of the KoP Photo Album (http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/photos/SMC1.pdf) labeled as "Solenoid Coils for dual Valve"?

Thanks,
indieFan

judson
01-11-2005, 07:29 PM
:confused: Even though I know that we are only supposed to get 1 globe motor, I am pretty sure that we do not even have that. Isn't the globe motor the one that attaches to the flexible extensions. First does have a photo gallery of parts but the motors do not seem to be included in the gallery. Does any one know of a photo gallery that includes and labels the motors?

Loving the confusion, :yikes:
judson

Coachmac
01-12-2005, 11:13 AM
We are also missing a Globe and a Van Door motor as well as the two hall effect sensors. :(

our hall effect sensors were stuck to the sensor assembly. they are magnetic. should there have been two sensor assemblies or just one?