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Zyik
02-11-2006, 12:57 PM
Out of curiosity, does any other team have to share an Internet with a school that has software like Light speed or another Net Nanny? They were designed to stop students from going to inappropriate sites, but ours seems to just block large clunks of the net, for example it blocked Kevin's programming code site. We managed to get that one unblocked, and have discovered a way around it, but these things are time consuming. I was just wondering if anyone else had to live with a problem like this, as ours limits what we can do on line, blocking some of the FIRST forum sites.

Capt.ArD
02-11-2006, 07:22 PM
Our admin has some basic firewall protections and blocked sites. occasionally they go through and block certain sites individually. it rarely blocks anyhting we need, and even if it does, we can ping the site and get past the block.

peaseonearth
02-11-2006, 07:25 PM
Our school has BESS. It would be a real pain, because it blocks basically everything. But luckily one of our students is an assistant to the tech people at the school and got them unblocked for us.

Elgin Clock
02-11-2006, 07:28 PM
Team 237's school has filtering software.. I think. I know it limits the use of the internet, and things like that..

But, they do it in a really weird way which I'm not gonna get into now.


As for my college, it has teh stupidest security protocol software ever. Your password has to be a minimum of 8 characters, have at least 3 of 4 of the following in there.

Capital letter, Lower-Case letter, number, symbol.

I go to school in Ct, where companies like UTC, and other high-tech highly security driven companies operate and their passwords are not that extreme.

We always laugh about it in class. It's so dumb.

scitobor 617
02-11-2006, 07:28 PM
Our network admins have been becomming more agressive with the filter system and recently block Chiefdelphi and the FIRST Q/A. This was because the address had "forum" in it. It took several long days to get things fixed, however I agree this things can be very irriatating. For a very long time simply accessing a site through secure https would get around our filter until they completely blocked off the port.

Tureyhall
02-11-2006, 07:30 PM
we have lightspeed. does anyone know how to get around it?

Elgin Clock
02-11-2006, 07:35 PM
No, and if the answer was yes, that kind of talk is forbidden on these forums.

hoag
02-11-2006, 08:33 PM
My school has several of the 8e6 R3000 filtering servers.
Chiefdelphi was blocked. It took several weeks to fill out paperwork and get the admins to unblock it.

75% of the team websites are also blocked by the filter.

My high school has over 4500 computers; there are only a few people that work at the helpdesk rooms (on each side of the school).

Matt Royek
02-11-2006, 08:40 PM
Our schools computers have them, though it's on a new system which is slightly more lenient. I say this because the last filtering system we used was absolutely horrible in the amount of content it blocked. One thing that could be construed as inappropriate for school was shot down almost as soon as it was sent down the pipe.

However, the blocking of http://images.google.com is a bit annoying when you have to get images for a school project.

Billfred
02-11-2006, 11:37 PM
1293's schools have St. Bernard's filters in place. No real interference with the team's operations--then again, the only sites you really need in the first place are the FIRST site, CD, and kevin.org, so maybe we're just lucky to have unblocked sites. ;)

Having lived with it for at least two years as a student at Irmo, it's not too terrible. You just have to lay off the games and (dare I say it?) use the school computers for school work.

Justin_302
02-13-2006, 08:12 AM
with novell, its as easy as changing the proxy

DjAlamose
02-13-2006, 08:52 AM
Our school has BESS. It would be a real pain, because it blocks basically everything. But luckily one of our students is an assistant to the tech people at the school and got them unblocked for us.

So we aren't the only people that have to deal with the ever annoying bess. Good thing our science teacher is also the tech person at our school so he can unblock sites for us. But we don't even have access to internet while we build the robot because we do it at our sponsor's location and they don't let us on the internet while we are there. We just have to do all of our research before we go and then if anything REALLY important needs to be found out then we can go log onto a computer there and use it but only after finding one that we are allowed to use and a mentor to watch us work. (This was before I was a mentor but we still have a lack of internet unless it is absolutely necessary)

Aburame Shino
02-13-2006, 02:39 PM
Our school has websense. While it's kind annoying to not be able to get to some websites, you tend to get used to it after a while. A lot of the sites blocked aren't important anyway.

team 803
03-24-2006, 08:06 AM
We have webSENSE here, It is a really good blocking system, and it makes school boring, I work with computers in class, and I get done with my work in about 5-10 min, leaving 85-80 min of nothing to do, paint is gone along with all of the games, they banned Koreus.com, and my friend hates school now because playing on the computer was the only thing he looked forward to (he had 96-100 grades in his classes)

i_am_Doug
03-24-2006, 09:57 AM
Nope dont have it. I dont look up porn or w/e it stops you from doing.

Oh but my school has this annoying 8e6 R3000.... it blocks EVERY THING even google...And it was blocking CD but i got around it with my wonderful ways :D ya know i thought the schools programs would be a little bit stronger....

Danielle H
03-24-2006, 10:20 AM
We have Surf Control here... and it, most of the time, doesn't interfere with Robotics related things, unless I'm trying to search information about a certain part or something.

Sometimes Surf Control and other Net Nannies can block the stupidest thing. I had to get an extension on an English paper because all my research material was blocked because of Surf Control...

Andy A.
03-24-2006, 11:20 AM
I didn't deal with any network filtering at high school that I know of, but we did have a program called 'fool proof'. It was supposed to keep people from doing anything that might change the computer. So things like installing a program, deleting files, moving icons, renaming files etc. couldn't be done. Or so it was thought.

Needless to say, Foolproof was not fool proof at all. A common practice when the lab techs where not looking was to see who could circumvent the security program the fastest. We came up with some interesting methods.

Of course, I don't condone such things, and really, we never did anything beyond rename some files to get the lab techs attention later on (stuff like 'killroy was here'). I guess we just didn't like that the school didn't trust anyone. But we never broke anything. To my knowledge.

Netnannys are no substitute for attentive lab techs and respectful students.

-Andy A.