IRI Info/Rule Changes

[Jack Jones]

Rule changes at IRI:

1. There will be no muzzle velocity ball speed limit. Rule S02 under
Aim High's Game Rules section 4.3.1. is voided for IRI. Fire at will!
Keep in mind that the 120 pound weight limit is still in effect. Scales
will be available, please don't make us use them. If a team modifies
their robot enough to make other teams wonder if they are over the
weight limit, we will check their robot weight. Consider your GP as you
make any robot mods.

We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized:

a. We will be replacing the DQ for 1 point goal incursion with a
penalty. The level of severity for this penalty is to be determined.
Our intent is to still discourage incursion, but to not have DQ's for
this action. We are re-wording rule G21 to make this clear.
b. We are considering the replacement of the serpentine draft with an
alternate method. Our intent is to either go back to 1-8, 1-8 or try
another method for 2nd round selection. First round selection will
definitely be 1-8. Once this is finalized, an update will be sent.

Thanks!
Libby, Chris, and Andy

Dang - We just dialed the 1213 PID in to 11.9 +- 0.3 MPS :-/

Otherwise, great changes. The incursion DQ should have been dropped after automatic scoring considerations became moot.

As for (b): I'd like to see elimination matches where the seeded teams weren't able to select each other. I think good scouting would come into play and the outcome would be less predictable.

Also, in the "other rule modifications" area, mere contact outside the bumper zone should not be penalized (as was threatened at the Champs). The penalty should be reserved for HITTING with force, otherwise it takes away some pretty neat, yet benign, ball catching contraptions.

Jack

[Beth Sweet]

Thanks for posting this Jack, somehow I didn't get it!

Interesting rule change with the velocity... I wonder how many teams will be able to realistically change that, how many made it so that the speed can be upped. I'm guessing that the speed was engineered into a lot of machines, it will be interesting to see who can step it up!

As to the serpentine, I was half expecting that... I don't think that was most peoples' favorite rule change this year. I am anxious to see what the new fashion will be!

[Ricky Q.]

Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?

[Kyle Love]

Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?

I'll make sure the cards get packed...if we can find them...if we can't I will make Andy some new ones.

[Ricky Q.]

I'll make sure the cards get packed...if we can find them...if we can't I will make Andy some new ones.

I have one of them from last year, Andy signed it and gave it to me after DQ'ing 269 twice, losing 2 matches for us :p

Conflicts aside, I really do love this system, it is a great addition to FIRST gameplay.

[AmyPrib]

Are Andy and the refs watching the World Cup and buffing up on their Yellow and Red Card Skills?

In other words, is the famous card sytem returning for another year?

There are still some details to be determined.
"We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized"

But, regardless, we'll make sure to watch 269 verrrrrry closely. :)

[Jack Jones]

There are still some details to be determined.
"We are also working on other rule modifications, and will send out
detailed information once these are finalized"
:)

Is it soup yet?

[Tytus Gerrish]

will there be a speed limit for IRI dodgeball? aka how hard can i trow the ball at arefin's chest?

[Ryan Dognaux]

will there be a speed limit for IRI dodgeball? aka how hard can i trow the ball at arefin's chest?

I think this should be a new rule - As long as the ball is being thrown at Arefin, no speed limit is required :)

[Andy Grady]

One thing to remember...more velocity does not always equal more gooder! How many times have you seen a hard flying ball bounce right off the chains and out. Keep that in mind!

We leave in two days, I can't wait for my first IRI experience!

[dlavery]

I think this should be a new rule - As long as the ball is being thrown at Arefin, no speed limit is required :)
Not even a minimum speed? :)

[Chuck Glick]

Not even a minimum speed? :)

who thinks 20 fps? is that a reasonable speed? or still too slow?

[Kyle Love]

who thinks 20 fps? is that a reasonable speed? or still too slow?

Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.

[Chuck Glick]

Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.

im talkin that arefin dodgeball rule. anyways we have a corner bot so we dont need to worry bout shootin speeds

[dubious elise]

Too fast...be careful of the chains...you will have to be at the other end of the field to make it in....or...maybe it will just cram the chains out of the way.
Read the whole thread, Kyle ;) He was referring to throws at Arefin only :yikes:

[AmyPrib]

Is it soup yet?

The IRI rule mods should hopefully be posted by tonight. Yellow and Red cards will be back, but you'll just have to wait for the rest. There aren't a ton of changes, but I think they are good.

[Aren_Hill]

will the facility be air conditioned and dehumidified robots are built during what is winter for most people and humidity makes the balls sticky and more likely to jam

thanks

[Andy Baker]

will the facility be air conditioned and dehumidified robots are built during what is winter for most people and humidity makes the balls sticky and more likely to jam

thanks


Lawrence North has air conditioning. If it didn't, more than just balls would be sticky.

AB

[Andy Baker]

2006 IRI Rules Changes and Clarifications (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1849)

Check it out, as here is the document listing the rules tweaks and clarifications for the 2006 IRI. If you are on an attending team, print this out and share it with your drive team. We will also have copies at the event.

Summary of changes and clarifications:

1. No ball speed limit.
2. Less severe penalties for 1 point goal incursion (but we can still DQ if needed)
3. Yellow card and Red card usage (same as 04 and 05 IRI)
4. Clarification on "high speed long distance ramming" (in rule G22): a robot's full top speed (8+ fps) from over 2 robot lenghts away
5. Clarification of intentional tipping, as stated in rule G22.
6. 2nd round alliance selection: 1-8, 1-8 (not the serpentine draft)

Andy B.

[JohnBoucher]

Is there a published schedule and a link to the web cast yet?

[Daisy]

Is there a published schedule and a link to the web cast yet?

The linky is all the way up top on CD. It is above the spotlights, and above the calendar.

Direct Link (http://live.wildstang.org/)

[Daisy]

I guess this has become the IRI thread, because there is no need to make a new one right?

So...did everyone see that? The announcer said "everyone needs to make their way outside". And they completely cleared.

I hope everyone is okay.

[Kristian Calhoun]

I guess this has become the IRI thread, because there is no need to make a new one right?

So...did everyone see that? The announcer said "everyone needs to make their way outside". And they completely cleared.

I hope everyone is okay.

Yeah, I was just wondering the same thing. I had to leave to go somewhere at the start of 233's first match, and was wondering what the standings/rankings were so far. So I had just got back and got the webcast up and running [after it kept cutting out on me], and then I heard the announcement [I didn't get to see the match] and see my teams robot on the field. I don't know what's going on...

[Daisy]

uhh....there was a buzzard that went off...like maybe a fire alarm?

EDIT : PEOPLE ARE BACK... :)

[Kristian Calhoun]

Yeah, it was a fire alarm.
Ooh, those were mentor matches, too bad I didn't get to see Mr. Cokeley drive... *pout* It would have been awesome to see 25 and 1114 together too.

[Stephen Kowski]

Is it just my Internet or is the webcast really laggy?

just started watching, and the audio is pretty clear (good tunes), but video is incredibly choppy.

[Michelle Celio]

just started watching, and the audio is pretty clear (good tunes), but video is incredibly choppy.


I'm getting it really bad here to.

I was getting it really bad @ school too.

[Morgan Gillespie]

I get roughly 1 frame per second. Great audio but only one frame per second. My webcast is also about 10 seconds behind... Could be the fact I am running through two routers... hmm.

[Alex Cormier]

is there a site with updated stats like rankings?

[dubious elise]

I feel so helpless and lost - what does the webcast play through? Please tell me it isn't WMP....

[Morgan Gillespie]

Real Player. If it isn't working right try getting the newest updates and if you are wondering if its just your computer or internet connection its not, the webcast is choppy.

[dubious elise]

Thanks loads, Morgan. The framerate isn't too bad for me and the audio comes in great.

[Daisy]

ummm...hmmm...did I break the webcast? It went from no video or audio...to video no audio.

Anyone else having this problem?

Maybe we should all pray to the robot gods.

[hoorayforpink]

anyone else lose audio? now its saying requested file not found does anyone know how to fix this or even if it can be fixed :confused:

umm i dont suppose anyone can tell me who won team 233's match i think it was a rematch or a redo or somthing sorry the webcast kinda stopped working

[Lauralynne C]

Anyone else lose the webcast? I lost it as they were putting up the screen for alliance selection. Is anyone else having a problem?

[MattB703]

Yah, it looks like the server went down or something.

[hoorayforpink]

it seems its back up

[MattB703]

Do you have sound?

[hoorayforpink]

ya the announcer just said somthing the alliance pickings are starting

[Alexa Stott]

The alliances are:
1. 25, 1114, 33,
2. 1213, 111, 16
3. 703, 469, 141
4. 1504, 494, 40
5. 71, 1625, 910
6. 233, 217, 1272
7. 70, 292, 1018
8. 126, 68, 1008

[Alexa Stott]

The #1 alliance just scored 24 balls in autonomous...

24x3+10=82 :ahh:

Unfortunately, they just had to reset the match because one of the robots wasn't enabled properly...or something like that.

But that's still pretty amazing.

[Daisy]

The alliances are:
1. 25, 1114, 33,
2. 1213, 111, 16
3. 703, 469, 40
4. 1504, 494, 40
5. 71, 1625, 910
6. 233, 217, 1272
7. 70, 292, 1018
8. 126, 68, 1008

you have 40 on there twice for 3 and 4

woah, did the server go down again?!

[MattB703]

Alliance #3 is 703, 469, and 141.

[Alexa Stott]

Alliance #3 is 703, 469, and 141.

Yep, my bad. Thanks, though.

[Joe J.]

Alliance 8 called for a substitution, 269 substituting for 1008.

8. 126, 68, 1008, 269

At least thats what I thought I heard before I lost the webcast.

[Alexa Stott]

Does anyone know what the score of QF1-2 was? The webcast froze for a bit and we missed the match over here. thanks.

[dubious elise]

Yowa! 133-137 in SF 1-2. Way to go blue!

[Chris Marra]

Teams 71, 1625, and 910 just beat out 233, 217, and 1276 for the 2006 IRI title. Great matches and congratulations everyone!

[Daisy]

Congrats to Red Alliance, 71, 1625, and 910. Great final match!

Score : 88-71

[hill]

This is the hugest thank you going out to team 71 team hammond for picking the best alliance at IRI!!! Also a huge thank you to to team 910 Foley freeze for being a freaking amazing D bot!!!! I was very scared going into SF-1 against 1114, 25, and 33 because all 3 robots shot in autonomous and they were all amazing.

[BuddyB309]

And my mom said I was wasting time playing all those video games, I was just merely practicing for driving the robot.

That was a thrill, 25's alliance put up a good fight.

-driver of 1625