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if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

I just did a quick search on FIRST and looks like lots of people forget to italicize FIRST
I was wondering if it would be good to automatically parse capitalized FIRST and change it to FIRST.

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I just did a quick search on FIRST and looks like lots of people forget to italicize FIRST
I was wondering if it would be good to automatically parse capitalized FIRST and change it to FIRST.

Just a taught!
I totally agree. I know Jessica Boucher posted something FIRST sent out and it was made a sticky but it seems that it's been over looked by most.

Thank you for putting this out in the open once more.
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Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM
Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...
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ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM
Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...
To me its about having respect for the organization wishes.

The organization that if it had not been for it, we would not be posting on this forum.
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To me its about having respect for the organization wishes.

The organization that if it had not been for it, we would not be posting on this forum.
If you automatically italicize it when people post it, it shows no respect, only that a filter changed my text for me.
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Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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If you automatically italicize it when people post it, it shows no respect, only that a filter changed my text for me.
The fact that Protronie suggested that we just ignore this is what I meant.

Having a filter will not change others use of it elsewhere but will provide a sense that someone does actually care about what FIRST wants for their image.

I'm sure if you requested "The Blue Alliance" to be used a certain way, you would want people to actually respect your decision and follow what you ask for.

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Anyway, as for the implementation, if its a simple edit to the forums and wont affect the daily posting of the many users, I don't see why there should be any disagreement as to why it shouldn't be implemented.

If 0705920 was asking for "first" and "FIRST" to be changed to "FIRST" then I'd understand the concern becuase it would alter the context of some messages.
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If 0705920 was asking for "first" and "FIRST" to be changed to "FIRST" then I'd understand the concern becuase it would alter the context of some messages.
But this is the FIRST time anyone has asked for a filter like this!

But now I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.
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Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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But this is the FIRST time anyone has asked for a filter like this!

But now I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.
In that case, there would be checkbox "Automatically parse/italicize FIRST in text"
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Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

Interesting, definitely a good idea to look into.
I am guilty of not always italicizing FIRST .
But I try to not forget as much as possible.
The check box may be a good idea because it show some individual (and group) initiative.
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Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

In English, there's no linguistic distinction between a name or acronym being written in plain typeface versus italics—so in conventional usage, there's no standard meaning. (Contrast that with the use of italics to signify a book title, or for contextual emphasis.) So when you choose to italicize it, you'll confuse a subset of readers, who will wonder what the special significance of the name is. Is it colloquial usage? Is there something about the context that makes the name important?

So what's the point? It's pretty much like asking (very politely) that my name be written only with a drop shadow. In other words, it's a little absurd.

Actually, if I remember correctly, the intention was to distinguish the name and acronym "FIRSТ" from the word "first". It seems to me that the capitalization already accomplishes this sufficiently well.

But then again, if the filter is so desperately wanted, make sure it can be turned off and that it doesn't apply to past posts (e.g. it's applied at preview-time or submission-time, rather than at render-time).
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In English, there's no linguistic distinction between a name or acronym being written in plain typeface versus italics—so in conventional usage, there's no standard meaning. (Contrast that with the use of italics to signify a book title, or for contextual emphasis.) So when you choose to italicize it, you'll confuse a subset of readers, who will wonder what the special significance of the name is. Is it colloquial usage? Is there something about the context that makes the name important?

So what's the point? It's pretty much like asking (very politely) that my name be written only with a drop shadow. In other words, it's a little absurd.

Actually, if I remember correctly, the intention was to distinguish the name and acronym "FIRSТ" from the word "first". It seems to me that the capitalization already accomplishes this sufficiently well.

But then again, if the filter is so desperately wanted, make sure it can be turned off and that it doesn't apply to past posts (e.g. it's applied at preview-time or submission-time, rather than at render-time).
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So what's the point? It's pretty much like asking (very politely) that my name be written only with a drop shadow. In other words, it's a little absurd.
The point is that FIRST asked us to do it, so I shall. It's not up to me to question their intentions.

If they requested drop shadow, I'd happily oblige. (as long as somebody showed me how to do it on here)
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Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...
I Agree that "ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM", and I am not saying that there the people who forgot to italicize did something wrong. In fact I probably did the same thing if I look at my posts
But if CD can implement this, why not do it so we are going by FIRST guidelines?!
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I Agree that "ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM", and I am not saying that there the people who forgot to italicize did something wrong. In fact I probably did the same thing if I look at my posts
But if CD can implement this, why not do it so we are going by FIRST guidelines?!
Yeah it'd be a simple filter. Kinda like woot! turns BOC into whatever it feels like that day in its posts, such as Bandolier Of Carrots, Baiting Other Consumers, etc.

And why not? Seems legit.

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Yeah it'd be a simple filter. Kinda like woot! turns BOC into whatever it feels like that day in its posts, such as Bandolier Of Carrots, Baiting Other Consumers, etc.

And why not? Seems legit.

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