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THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Today started like any other day, until robotics class. When I got to class my teacher decided to tell us this years hint. If you haven't heard it yet, here it is:

"Four is not enough, and the center is out"

When i asked if this was the official hint my teacher just answered that he knows people (it does seem true, he has some friends in the upper echelons of FIRST).
What i want from you good people is:
A) confirmation of this hint
B) All of the speculation you people can fling around




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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Four? WE GET MORE THAN 4 TEAMS ON THE FIELD?!?!
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

More like 3v3 instead of 2v2, but then the field could get really crowded. So they take the structures out of the center.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Well thats an unofficial hint for now. Maybe we'll have a donut field and an obstacle relay race with 3 robots per relay team. Or the revival of the hexagon field.

Best we can do now is go crazy with the speculation until FIRST gives some offical announcement- if any this year. January 8th is now only 22 days away.

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Is this official?! Don't lead people on man! Your post title gave the impression that it was. How did he present this? Did he say "this is the hint: blah blah" or did he just insert it in conversation and you interpreted it as such. Need more info. Insufficient Data.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Sounds like a hint first would give us. It's certainly cryptic enough.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Today started like any other day, until robotics class. When I got to class my teacher decided to tell us this years hint. If you haven't heard it yet, here it is:

"Four is not enough, and the center is out"

When i asked if this was the official hint my teacher just answered that he knows people (it does seem true, he has some friends in the upper echelons of FIRST).
What i want from you good people is:
A) confirmation of this hint
B) All of the speculation you people can fling around
since i have not heard anything... i would not believe in anything but an official announcement from FIRST

hmm.... what is four?
4 robots on the field right now ... so more than 4 robots at a time?
4 fields at nationals that lead to the center (Einstein) .... more than 4 normal fields at nationals and no Einstein, the center.
4 people were on a team field crew in 2004 .....bigger field teams?
edit...
also the center of the old logo is filled up by the junction of the triangle and square of the new one.....
edit...
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Is this official?! Don't lead people on man! Your post title gave the impression that it was. How did he present this? Did he say "this is the hint: blah blah" or did he just insert it in conversation and you interpreted it as such. Need more info. Insufficient Data.
Everything is unofficial until FIRST makes a claim for it.

But specualtion if fun, but there already if a whole 8 pages or so of guessing.

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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... (it does seem true, he has some friends in the upper echelons of FIRST....
It seemed true when Joe Ross cancelled Nationals a few years ago ...

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I note no on the hex field. While it was exceedingly cool, FIRST has a lot invested in the current rectangular field, and the hex field doesn't lend itself as well to play in arenas. Especially arenas with viewing from just one side like in Atlanta.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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"Four is not enough, and the center is out"
C'mon guys - think about it.

Four is not enough.... of what? Corners perhaps? What has more than four corners? Hexagons, octagons, decagons, circles ...

... and the center is out -- Right out of the circle perhaps?

Hey! Maybe the field is donuts-shaped!
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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I note no on the hex field. While it was exceedingly cool, FIRST has a lot invested in the current rectangular field, and the hex field doesn't lend itself as well to play in arenas. Especially arenas with viewing from just one side like in Atlanta.
i do agree First would be smart to keep the rectangles for financial reasons.


but the hint makes me think it effects the field as opposed to the robots


4 Sides of the field are not enough... and the center is out, a BAGEL (hehe) Shaped Field

maybe... makes asking each team for 1000 dollars more a lil more worth it now doesnt it

tho ive been wating for more then 4 robots on the field for a long time, anyone who thinks it be to crowded, just look at the 2001 game. games are more fun when theres less on the field (dont argue it, its just an opinion and preference)

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Maybe your robot needs to have more than 4 wheels. or sensors.
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Is this official?! Don't lead people on man! Your post title gave the impression that it was. How did he present this? Did he say "this is the hint: blah blah" or did he just insert it in conversation and you interpreted it as such. Need more info. Insufficient Data.

My teacher started our class off with the hint. The thing that makes me think this is a real hint was the smug, cocky look on his face when he told us the hint . Another bit to add to his credibility was that last year he told us that Stairway to Heaven hint at about the same time of year (which, mind you, was not made official until nearly a week after people started spreading it). When we were speculating in class the smug grin only got larger and he didn't say anything . I know this is not official yet, but i have a feeling it might be the real hint.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Here's a Kyle guess. I am guessing an octagon field without a center where there are 3 alliances with 2 teams each...that's all I have to guess right now. My real guess will come on Jan. 8th.

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