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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

My guess is that there will be more than 4 teams at a time (4 is not enough) playing some type of ring toss game using hula hoops (the center is out)
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

First could easily modify their current field. The expensive part is the players stations. They could cut them in half and used them as sides of an octagon. The rest of the field is cheaper railing the can be cut up and welded back together. All that is remaining is carpet that is replaced every year anyway.

Look how much some teams change their robot between rounds, FIRST can certainly modify a field cheaply in 6 months.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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sur·prise:
tr.v. sur·prised, sur·pris·ing, sur·pris·es

1. To encounter suddenly or unexpectedly; take or catch unawares.
2. To attack or capture suddenly and without warning.
3. To cause to feel wonder, astonishment, or amazement, as at something unanticipated.
4.
1. To cause (someone) to do or say something unintended.
2. To elicit or detect through surprise.
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1. The act of surprising or the condition of being surprised.
2. Something, such as an unexpected encounter, event, or gift, that surprises.


I've been debating heavily on posting in this thread....

Its kind of disheartening to sit here and read peoples comments and thoughts. I see January 8th as like Christmas....you've waited all year, now you get to see what your getting... I can't stand people who always ask me what i got them for christmas, its utterly rude, and annoying. I feel the same thing is happening in FIRST.

Now please, dont think I am just trying to be a buzzkill, but I do believe i have a point....Just wait until January, and have it be a real SURPRISE
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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I've been debating heavily on posting in this thread....

Its kind of disheartening to sit here and read peoples comments and thoughts. I see January 8th as like Christmas....you've waited all year, now you get to see what your getting... I can't stand people who always ask me what i got them for christmas, its utterly rude, and annoying. I feel the same thing is happening in FIRST.

Now please, dont think I am just trying to be a buzzkill, but I do believe i have a point....Just wait until January, and have it be a real SURPRISE
I really like your analogy. The kick-off is your opportunity to finally open the REALLY BIG box that has been sitting under the tree. All the guessing, speculation and rumors leading up to kick-off are analogous to shaking the box to try to figure out what might be inside, even though you don't really want to know until you get to unwrap it. The official FIRST hint (when it comes out) is like that little tear in the wrapping paper that almost lets you make out part of the UPC code on the side of the box.

You are right in that the best part is finally being able to "unwrap the box" and see the surprise inside on January 8. But still, I don't think that there is one amoung us that, as a kid, didn't shake the box occasionally!

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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I really like your analogy. The kick-off your opportunity to finally open the REALLY BIG box that has been sitting under the tree. All the guessing, speculation and rumors leading up to kick-off are analogous to shaking the box to try to figure out what might be inside, even though you don't really want to know until you get to unwrap it. The official FIRST hint (when it comes out) is like that little tear in the wrapping paper that almost lets you make out part of the UPC code on the side of the box.

You are right in that the best part is finally being able to "unwrap the box" and see the surprise inside on January 8. But still, I don't think that there is one amoung us that, as a kid, didn't shake the box occasionally!

-dave

Aren't we always told by FIRST to THINK OUTSIDE the BOX ?

( PS- hey Dave- Big Mike has a shirt for you in the latest colors....)

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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My guess is that there will be more than 4 teams at a time (4 is not enough) playing some type of ring toss game using hula hoops (the center is out)
I think your headed in the right direction. But may be intertubes instead of hula hoops. As I said before: it's certainly cryptic enough to be a FIRST hint. I also think "4 is not enough" refers to the number of robots on the field.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

All I can think of is that there is going to be more than 4 robots on the field and that this isn't going to be a center piece in the middle. I wonder if they are going to use IR sensors this year. That'll be interesting.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

Or the center is out could mean that there is a a center platform or something and if your on it at the end of the game, you automatically lose or lose points.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

The center is out could always refer to the center being out of bounds, as in the robot cant enter the center (ooh a rhyme!) without getting some sort of penalty. An object could be in the center that the robot would have to get with some sort of extend-able hook type mechanism.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I dunno guys, I've alreaady been having nightmares about this :-) , I "THINK" that when they are saying that "4 is not enough" , they are talking about wheels. Maybe four wheels this year won't be enough..... I know that 99.99% of robots have/had four wheels, I've seen very few trax robots...
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I could imagine it meaning 4 goals isn't enough. While games in the past prove that idea wrong, 1 goal would not have been enough in 2002 and possibly, likewise, 4 is not enough in this year's game.

The center out...I tried the dictionary - means to single out - not too helpful and probably the wrong direction. Seems likely that if they are referring to goals as speculated here, they are probably talking about the fact that FIRST games general revolve around an object in the center of the field (only exception i can think of is 2002, but that's not exactly an exception since they start in the center).
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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I dunno guys, I've alreaady been having nightmares about this :-) , I "THINK" that when they are saying that "4 is not enough" , they are talking about wheels. Maybe four wheels this year won't be enough..... I know that 99.99% of robots have/had four wheels, I've seen very few trax robots...
Valid point. Most teams choose 4 wheel drive. I have found that teams go with 6-wheel drive or tracks when the game involves climbing or a need for a lot of traction. So maybe the game will involve climbing a step that is bigger than six inches. Or maybe the floor of the feild might be made if something else other than carpet which might mean that four wheel drive might not have enough traction.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinking that "the center is out" might mean we get some weird scoring object (kinda like the donut from 1999).

Just my quick thought.
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