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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator

Simple Motor Calculator

I created this small app for my own use, then realized that others might find it interesting/fun/handy.

Constructive criticism and error reports welcome.

Note: for those looking for something more comprehensive, check out JVN's calculator.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2059


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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator

The updated version will allow you to enter a desired motor power, and it will then calculate the rpm range, the torque range, and the current range over which the motor will deliver at least that much power.

Also, if there is some reason why you want to always operate the motor at or above a certain efficiency, you can enter the desired efficiency and it will calculate the rpm range, the torque range, the current range over which the motor will operate at an efficiency equal to or greater than the entered number.


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The updated version will allow you to enter a desired motor power, and it will then calculate the rpm range, the torque range, and the current range over which the motor will deliver at least that much power.

Also, if there is some reason why you want to always operate the motor at or above a certain efficiency, you can enter the desired efficiency and it will calculate the rpm range, the torque range, the current range over which the motor will operate at an efficiency equal to or greater than the entered number.

Ether, nice little program and simple to use. great work. As an Engineer, I am always impressed at what people come up with to solve simple problems when the use the theory of "STICK ON A STRING". If you keep this in mind when face with a problem, life will be great and a little less stressful.

Again, Do not stop what it is that you do best, GREAT WORK.
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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


I have updated the motor calculator for the 9015 (am-0912) and PG71 (am-0914) 2012 motors.

The app is now 32-bit so it should now run in 64-bit Windows (XP & 7).

I am re-working the floating-point error trapping and will update again when that is done.

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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


Floating-point exception handling added.

MCALC32c.

Works in 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.

Scrollable window.

Includes 9015 (am-0912), PG71 (am-0914), and fc12-20 motors.



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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


For anyone who has downloaded MCALC32, please be advised that the specs for the PG71 gearmotor are in dispute1.

As soon as this is settled, I will update the calculator.

Sorry for any inconvenience.


1 http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99488



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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


Motor Calculator build MCALC32g 1/9/2012 350p

Now supports the following motors:

CIM

FP0673
FP2719
FP9012
FP9015

RS395
RS540 (not legal for 2012 but included)
RS550
RS775-12
RS775-18

am-0912
am-0914

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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


Here's a copy-and-paste ticker tape output from the motor calculator. If you disagree with any of the specs please let me know. Thanks:

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Motor Calculator  build MCALC32h 1/9/2012 643p



CIM FR801 001, AM802 001A @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000    5310   100.0     2.7         0.0        32.4     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   343.4   2.425       0     0.0   133.0         0.0      1596.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   171.7   1.212    2655    50.0    67.8       337.1       814.2    41.4
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    42.8   0.302    4648    87.5    18.9       147.1       227.3    64.7




FP 00801-0673 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   20770   100.0     0.8         0.0         9.8     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    75.4   0.532       0     0.0   108.7         0.0      1304.4     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    37.7   0.266   10385    50.0    54.8       289.5       657.1    44.1
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     6.0   0.043   19110    92.0     9.4        85.2       113.3    75.2




FP 000968-2719 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   16100   100.0     2.0         0.0        24.0     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    57.5   0.406       0     0.0    63.0         0.0       756.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    28.8   0.203    8050    50.0    32.5       171.1       390.0    43.9
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     8.7   0.061   13665    84.9    11.2        87.9       134.7    65.2




FP 000968-9012 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   15600   100.0     1.0         0.0        12.0     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    59.5   0.420       0     0.0    63.5         0.0       762.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    29.8   0.210    7800    50.0    32.3       171.6       387.0    44.3
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     6.6   0.047   13861    88.9     8.0        68.0        95.6    71.1


FP 000968-9015 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   15600   100.0     1.3         0.0        15.0     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    63.7   0.450       0     0.0    70.0         0.0       840.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    31.9   0.225    7800    50.0    35.6       183.7       427.5    43.0
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     7.5   0.053   13761    88.2     9.4        76.4       112.3    68.1


M3-RS395-12 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   15500   100.0     0.5         0.0         6.0     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    16.7   0.118       0     0.0    15.0         0.0       180.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     8.3   0.059    7750    50.0     7.8        47.8        93.0    51.3
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     2.6   0.018   13107    84.6     2.7        24.9        32.9    75.9


***NOTE*** RS540 is not legal for 2012

RS540 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   17200   100.0     0.9         0.0        11.2     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    32.6   0.230       0     0.0    36.8         0.0       441.6     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    16.3   0.115    8600    50.0    18.9       103.8       226.4    45.8
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     4.5   0.032   14841    86.3     5.8        49.1        70.2    70.0


RS550 stall torque changed to 70.5 oz-in per 2012 FRC specs

M5-RS550-12 (-B) @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   19300   100.0     1.4         0.0        16.8     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    70.5   0.498       0     0.0    85.0         0.0      1020.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    35.3   0.249    9650    50.0    43.2       251.5       518.4    48.5
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     8.0   0.057   17105    88.6    10.9       101.4       130.9    77.5



M7-RS775-12 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000    7300   100.0     1.1         0.0        13.2     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    61.1   0.431       0     0.0    30.0         0.0       360.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    30.6   0.216    3650    50.0    15.6        82.5       186.6    44.2
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     9.8   0.069    6127    83.9     5.7        44.5        68.9    64.5



M7-RS775-18 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   13000   100.0     1.8         0.0        21.6     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   112.8   0.797       0     0.0    86.7         0.0      1040.4     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    56.4   0.398    6500    50.0    44.3       271.2       531.0    51.1
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    14.2   0.100   11363    87.4    12.5       119.4       149.9    79.7



am-0912 (CCL 9015) @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000   16000   100.0     1.2         0.0        14.4     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    60.6   0.428       0     0.0    63.8         0.0       765.6     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    30.3   0.214    8000    50.0    32.5       179.4       390.0    46.0
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     7.3   0.052   14070    87.9     8.8        76.1       105.0    72.5



Specs for am-0914 (PG71) motor are disputed.
Update will be posted when available.

am-0914 (PG71) @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000      84   100.0     1.3         0.0        15.6     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
  4140.0  29.235       0     0.0    26.8         0.0       321.8     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
  2070.0  14.617      42    50.0    14.1        64.3       168.7    38.1
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   739.3   5.221      69    82.1     5.9        37.7        70.3    53.7



DensoL 262100-3040 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000      84   100.0     1.8         0.0        21.6     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
  1501.1  10.600       0     0.0    21.0         0.0       252.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   750.5   5.300      42    50.0    11.4        23.3       136.8    17.0
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   339.5   2.398      65    77.4     6.1        16.3        73.7    22.1



DensoR 262100-3030 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000      84   100.0     1.8         0.0        21.6     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
  1501.1  10.600       0     0.0    18.6         0.0       223.2     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   750.5   5.300      42    50.0    10.2        23.3       122.4    19.0
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
   357.4   2.524      64    76.2     5.8        16.9        69.6    24.3



Denso AE235100-0160 @ 12.00 volts:
@ free (no load):
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     0.0   0.000    5300   100.0     1.0         0.0        12.0     0.0
@ stall:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
    18.4   0.130       0     0.0     7.0         0.0        84.0     0.0
@ max power:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     9.2   0.065    2650    50.0     4.0        18.0        48.0    37.6
@ max efficiency:
   oz-in      Nm     rpm    rpm%    amps   watts out    watts in    eff%
     5.0   0.036    3846    72.6     2.6        14.4        31.8    45.2
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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


I've just been informed (by someone in a position to know) that the "9013" in the KoP Checklist is an error: It should be 9012.

Team Update #2 (2012-01-13) added FP-9012 to [R48] and kept FP-9013.

The motor calculator supports the FP-9012. As soon as specs for FP-9013 become available I will add them to the calculator.



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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


The motor calculator has been updated with the latest (1/16/2012) lab data for the am-0914 gearmotor.

I decided to incorporate 2 separate sets of motor specs for this gearmotor:
one for brand-new (unused) gearmotor, and

one for used (broken-in) gearmotor
... since the lab data indicated a significant difference.


** ACTUAL GEARMOTOR PERFORMANCE PROBABLY LIES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN **

Links to the 3 lab report PDF documents can be found at the bottom of this web page.

If you have even a passing interest in motor testing, you will find this interesting reading.

DOES ANYONE HAVE SPECS FOR THE FISHER-PRICE FP-000968-9013 ???



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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator


Motor calculator has been updated to MCALC32t and includes:

The calculator now gives the user the option to select which specs to use for am-0914, since there are 3 different sets of specs (explained in the am-0914 options menu).

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MCALC32w fixes a problem with the spec options menu for the am-0914.

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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator



MCALC32aa adds a UserDefined motor to the motor selection menu.

EDIT: MCALC32ab adds exception handling to user-defined motor input


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Re: paper: Simple Motor Calculator

WOW!!! How did you do this? I have been looking for a graph of the information so I could get the general values, but this is far better!
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