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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

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Why does FIRST need money to bring extra volunteers? Wait, have I been missing my per diem? Where's my check? [Please excuse that, what I mean to say is that volunteers mostly pay their own way (sometimes quite a lot). Very few people in the first umbrella get any money, though of course they are important people.]
FIRST provides food for volunteers, as well as shirts and passes to the finale, so there is a monetary cost to FIRST for increasing the number of volunteers even though we aren't paid.

I think Michael's point may have been in terms of the cost of the extra AV equipment, loading personnel, etc that aren't volunteers but are hired by FIRST to run things at Championships, however.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

If you think it's difficult to hear team introductions and play-by-play in the dome now, just imagine what a mess it would be for 8 announcers. Also imagine the increase in traffic - doubling the number of robots in motion at any one time.

I love the idea of more matches so less luck is involved in the picking. They've got some hurdles to overcome to do it.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

Wow. 400 teams, 9 qualification matches, and (this is just what I heard from a mentor) they're opening up at 3:00 on Wednesday, from which we CAN WORK ON the robot until 8:30 while simultaneously setting up pit structures, then qualifications start at 1:00 on Thursday. That sounds...odd, but I'm not sure quite how that works out. Either way, I'm excited. Can't wait to go to my second World Champs (Definitely going to break out the 2010 Atlanta jacket when I go.) PM me if you want to t-shirt trade!
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

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FIRST provides food for volunteers, as well as shirts and passes to the finale, so there is a monetary cost to FIRST for increasing the number of volunteers even though we aren't paid.

I think Michael's point may have been in terms of the cost of the extra AV equipment, loading personnel, etc that aren't volunteers but are hired by FIRST to run things at Championships, however.
And I appreciate everything FIRST gives us. However, having both read their financial statements and struggled through the event volunteer shortage, I'm fairly confident saying a good part of the manpower issue is in volunteer bodies rather than complimentary supplies. I do agree about the A/V issue, as both myself and Phil mentioned. But you are correct, I had not meant to sell short FIRST's volunteer support, only clarify that money is not the (only) limiting factor to "bringing those extra people".
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Wow. 400 teams, 9 qualification matches, and (this is just what I heard from a mentor) they're opening up at 3:00 on Wednesday, from which we CAN WORK ON the robot until 8:30 while simultaneously setting up pit structures, then qualifications start at 1:00 on Thursday. That sounds...odd, but I'm not sure quite how that works out. Either way, I'm excited. Can't wait to go to my second World Champs (Definitely going to break out the 2010 Atlanta jacket when I go.) PM me if you want to t-shirt trade!
I believe they're opening at 4:00, can anyone confirm?
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I believe they're opening at 4:00, can anyone confirm?
You are indeed correct and I am wrong. Good call on catching that. The pits do open at 4 to five team reps. The qualification matches, as well, do start at 1:00 on Thursday. The rest of the schedule people can look at.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

Oh my goodness!!! I AM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is my last year as a student and I am extremely happy about the championship! I cant wait until St Louis and I cant wait to go back next year to Volunteer and the year after and so on!!!!!! This year is so amazing! Thank goodness for FIRST!!!
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And I appreciate everything FIRST gives us. However, having both read their financial statements and struggled through the event volunteer shortage, I'm fairly confident saying a good part of the manpower issue is in volunteer bodies rather than complimentary supplies. I do agree about the A/V issue, as both myself and Phil mentioned. But you are correct, I had not meant to sell short FIRST's volunteer support, only clarify that money is not the (only) limiting factor to "bringing those extra people".
Can we just enjoy the moment?

I was excited to click on the thread and find out the 2012 plans so far... and I found that we are already picking things apart.

Sorry, just not in the mood to be nitpicky tonight.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

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Can we just enjoy the moment?

I was excited to click on the thread and find out the 2012 plans so far... and I found that we are already picking things apart.

Sorry, just not in the mood to be nitpicky tonight.
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This.

There are two threads currently going to discuss potential ways to change championships (including people throwing around ideas of increasing the number of divisions). Can't we keep all that riff raff in those threads? I'm with Jane--let's use this thread to celebrate and get excited for this year's event and not spend our time worrying about next year!

I won't be able to attend this year and wasn't at the event last year, but I'm glad that they moved the fields out of the pits. I know many were upset about that last year and it was a bit of a hassle, so I'm glad FIRST listened to those concerns.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

Everyone is raving about having nearly 100 teams per division. I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I'm not so sure that many teams is a good thing.
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Has anyone been able to locate a map/layout for the pits/stadium?

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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

Pity us poor Robot Inspectors. You usually have 5-6 inspectors per division. That's 17-20 robots per person
Please be patient when you want your robot inspected. We will get to at our earliest inconvience

Also, what is the load in like? This will be FRC Team 1501's first Championship since 2007.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

Wayne,
It has been a long time since you were at Champs. We are expecting a lot more inspectors to handle the load, get everyone inspected and be ready for matches starting on Thursday afternoon. The number will more like 15 per division plus a few more if I can get them. This includes Inspection Pit Managers to handle weigh and size, the inspection paperwork, and assigning inspectors. We move staff as we see a need to get everyone inspected on time. We also plan to have inspectors regularly checking in at the fields to answer questions and support Refs and FTAs. Inspectors will be working hard to get B&T checks done as soon as possible after you open your crate and will remain until the pits close each day. LRIs from regional events are asked to wear their black vests and most everyone will be wearing the bright green hats so you can recognize them from afar.

Please note: This is the big show! There will be the most experienced inspectors checking over your robots at this event. I am sorry if something was missed at your regional, it will be checked at this event. If it is not compliant, it will need to be made legal. We will advise you on changes that will need to be made. Look over my inspection thread here on CD and be sure that your bumpers are in order, you have only legal motors, pneumatics and batteries, and your robot has an electrically isolated frame. This year nearly half of all robots failed some portion of the bumper rule. Your bumper segments must be a minimum of 8" long (measured at backing i.e. the 3/4" plywood), fully backed by robot frame, have no hard parts in the corners, must have your team number in only four locations (approx 90 degrees apart), may not be split across bumper segments and must be white or outlined in white. Please review all the bumper rules (4.1.6 Bumper Rules) and check the accompanying figures in the rule book. As of this writing, Rev C of the Inspection Checklist is still the valid document and this will be used at Champs.
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Re: [Bill's Blog] The Biggest and Best Championship Ever

5 people are allowed in to unpack the robot, get inspected and setup the pit station (no practice field).

Potential Scenario:
Pits open at 4:00 5 people enter without the pit and supplies only what is needed to uncrate and work on the robot. This is because they are waiting in a long line of people wanting to get in. They recieve a call at 5:30 (or later) saying that their trailer is at the load in area and to come out and get their stuff. This allows 5 people to be more productive over a longer period of time and focus on getting robot changes made and inspected. Otherwise they would have to wait to begin work until they can enter with all of the supplies and pit.

Never attending St. Louis how long does it take to get everyone loaded in? And are the 5 team reps allowed to enter leave and re-enter?
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