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Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Some people on this forum have obviously obtained McMaster catalogs. How did you do it? I have sent in many requests on their website and even called the sales reps several times and they have promised to send me a catalog. Still.. Nothing. I even asked if i could have one when i went to pick an order up form the local warehouse and they said they couldn't help me. How do i obtain one of these sacred books? Othe companies with equally gianormous catalogs are quite generous (MSC with their several thousand page hardocover catalog, newark with their full color catalog, allied electronics, etc).
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

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Some people on this forum have obviously obtained McMaster catalogs. How did you do it? I have sent in many requests on their website and even called the sales reps several times and they have promised to send me a catalog. Still.. Nothing. I even asked if i could have one when i went to pick an order up form the local warehouse and they said they couldn't help me. How do i obtain one of these sacred books?
over the past two years, i've been using their website, instead of they're catalog. what makes the catalog better than the website? what've i been missing?
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

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over the past two years, i've been using their website, instead of they're catalog. what makes the catalog better than the website? what've i been missing?
I like paper things better. Its nice to be able to sit down with the thing and flip though it.
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Maybe you can get someone you know from a big company, (like NASA) to order you one. McMaster is much more responsive to companies and small businesses who buy from them on a regular basis.\

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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Have you tried asking any of the companies that support your team?

If they can't (or won't) get you a new one maybe they can give you an old one as most suppliers like this give out catalogs a few times a year. There isn't a big product change between 1-2 catalogs so a slightly out of date one will be fine.

I've gotten many older, and a few brand new because the company already had one or more, from where I work including MSC, Grainger, Panduit, Festo and even a 6 inch binder from SMC containing all thier pnuematic components.
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

There are times when having the web is better but there are other times when having the catalog is really much preferrable.

For example, sometimes I don't know exactly what I want and the search on their site doesn't provide any good leads. In this case, the catalog is the only way to shop.

I don't know how to get McMaster to send you one, but there are several available on ebay -- probably cost you $20 or so by the time you factor in shipping, less if you are willing to live with less than the latest and greatest version. I have #111 -- but #110 would work for 99.99% of the time need/want to use a catalog.

Have you tried calling them? I have never hung up unhappy after talking to the customer service folks at McMaster.

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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

I guess that my experience with McMaster has been exactly the opposite from Joe's. I have never had a good experience with them, and absolutely refuse to do business with them either personally or professionally. It should not matter if I am just representing myself as an occasional customer using personal finances, or representing a $16.5 billion organization. If they want my business, then they should act accordingly. If they don't, I am quite happy to take my business (and that of my $16.5 billion organization) elsewhere.

The way that I see it, if I have to repeatedly request a copy of their catalog and they still never get around to actually sending one, then that is highly indicative of their overall attitude toward their customers. The last time I requested one of their catalogs I received a form letter in response that stated that my organization (NASA) did not conduct enough business to justify having them send me one of their expensive catalogs. In response, I sent them back a very nice letter noting that if they did not feel my organization needed one of their catalogs to enable us to order from them, then we would not bother them any further.

I wrote the letter on the back of a page from the MSC catalog.

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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

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I like paper things better. Its nice to be able to sit down with the thing and flip though it.
You never know when you'll find something you didnt know you needed. Its like walking though a super walmart
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Wow! I will be honest, I can't recall a single negative word ever said about them unless it is that their prices are high for some items.

I have placed literally 100's of orders totalling well over $100,000 with them over the last 10 years. I got the same great service whether the order was from me personally, or as a Delphi engineer, or as a small business man. I have nothing but good things to say about them. In fact, I often use them as examples of a company with great customer service, one that almost always exceeds customer expectations.

Strange that Dave and I should have such a widely varying experiences with the same company.

Perhaps the Aurora, OH service center is better at servicing the Midwest than whatever facility Dave has been working with.

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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

My company is a vendor to McMastar Carr. We do approx $200,000 a year with them. They are a bit disorganized for a company their size. I also find using their website very difficult. I am sure they could double their business with some changes to their operations.
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Mcmaster Carr is on my A list of vendors. Never had a problem with an order. I quite often e-mail them for spec sheets and usually get a reply that day. They are not always the cheapest but if its in stock I usual get the stuff fast. 1 or 2 days. Your school probably has a catalog. The maintenance people or the shop teachers may have it. If not I bet they would be very responsive from a school. Ask your school to get you 1.
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

McMaster's website is great. But I do understand the need for the paper copy for searching. See if any local companies have an older one... I know we always had 4 or 5 versions at the plant.

I also have had good luck with McMaster (and Grainer). I also grew up 5 minutes from the Aurora, OH location, and thus must assume that all people from that area are awesome! heh heh heh.
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Re: Coercing McMaster into sending me a catalog.

Getting a catalog out of Mc Master Carr can be quite difficult towards the end of the year. Let me ask a few questions:
1. Have you bought any thing from them? Paper catalogs are expensive and are typically reserved for paying customers or companies. Has you Team bought anything from them?
2. Have any of your sponsors or school purchased anything from Mc Master Carr? If so ask them to request a catalog for you.
3. If all else fails use their online catalog, try to use a dsl or faster line. A dial up will take a while due to the heavy graphics content as the scan all the catalog pages.

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Well, I've tried repeatedly to get a printed catalog, but was never successful.

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