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On "graciously" accepting

I know that "gracious professionalism" is a huge part of FIRST, but I was just wondering if anyone knows when or how the "graciously accepting" (in the alliance selection ceremony) started.

I actually think that calling oneself "gracious" is itself ungracious, and it would be better if, when called to join an alliance, the team captain said: "Team [000] humbly accepts team [000]'s gracious offer."

Just getting caught up in semantics...
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

I think someone posted that "Team 0000 graciously accepts" is actually bad english, and it should really be gratefully in that instance.

But, I"m not sure what the "correct" thing to say would be, due to that issue and the other issue you brought up.

I think they should get A for effort anyways if they are accepting that way, and not just saying, we accept, or other things I have heard for people declining in the past which weren't so gracious.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

I remember in one regional, probably Buckeye '03. One alliance started that around 3/4 then every team that had accepted said it also. It's just a a thing one team does and other reply as the same.

We also had this chat after FLR a few of us. It doesn't always work when you put the word gracious infront of anything. Think Battle bots, after a winning match do ya go over to the loser and go we "Graciously kicked your butt"!?
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

Instead of "Team XXXX graciously accepts" how about just a big "yeaaaahhhhh!" ?
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

I'm not sure it really matters. I recall watching old videos where Woodie tried to get team to just say only the team number they wanted to invite (instead of teams xx and xx would like to invite xx)... and asking them to be brief. Just cuz someone says only "yes" doesn't mean they are ungracious either. I think it's read into too much.

I think "yes we accept" is just as good as "we graciously accept" or "heck yeah we accept!". Just a matter of preference I guess. I'd like to hear people change it up so long as it's brief.

I don't think they are calling themselves gracious. I always interpreted that saying as "We are honored that you chose us and we accept this thankfully".... Synonym for gracious is "cordial", "polite", and "courteous". Either way, if I called or considered myself polite or cordial, that's not ungracious at all. Any of those words is fine - none sound conceited or ungracious to me.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

Team 384 graciously declines Elign's comments.



I don't know where it started, but it's probably a combination of "gracious professionalism" and accepting.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

This year I was scared that I would not be able to say "graciously" so I said
538 accepts.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

Students... when you are picking a team or accepting a pick, have some creativity. Tell your mother hello. Give a shout out to your entire team. Give us a 'lil John "Yeeeaaaah!" Sing a little song. Recite a brief poem. Tell a tasteful, quick joke.

This would be neat to see. You can still have some fun while being gracious.

Keep in mind, you are representing your team, of course.

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Re: On "graciously" accepting

The entire concept of calling oneself gracious is, in itself, ungracious.

I agree with Andy, have fun with it. Unless of course, you're scared to death at being out there and saying the wrong thing and then a "yes thank you" would be acceptable. But from what I know of FIRST kids, bashfulness is not a common trait.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

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I think someone posted that "Team 0000 graciously accepts" is actually bad english, and it should really be gratefully in that instance.
I was the one who wrote that "gratefully" is probably the word that was meant when "we graciously accept" was first uttered. I didn't say it bad English, though. Grammatically, it's perfectly proper.

If I were to describe another team's acceptance as gracious, I would be saying that the team might reasonably have been expected to turn down the offer (possibly because they could do better with a different partnership), but in a show of grace, they accepted the offer. To describe ones own actions thusly, is definitely not gracious.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

This is a graciously awkward thread
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

I dont know about other regionals but GLR was was an all out adverb fight "figurtavly of course" but i was kind of irritated by the teams almost trying to one-up each other for a better "gracious" synonnym but i agree that just a simple yes is just fine and some times others are read into too much
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

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Instead of "Team XXXX graciously accepts" how about just a big "yeaaaahhhhh!" ?
Our mechanical mentor tried convincing the person that was representing our team to go "Yeahhhh booyyyyy!" (think rapper style) when we were asked to join an alliance. Lets just say she graciously declined that offer.
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Re: On "graciously" accepting

It bugs me when all of the teams say the same thing. Come on! Go for some originality!

Last year at the Buckeye regional when we were picked, instead of saying "Team 166 graciously accepts" our Captain said "Team 166 thinks it would be wicked awesome to play with you guys" stressing the "wicked"

*proud of the fact that he's from New England*

Another team ran out, hugged the team representative and said "We love you guys"

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Re: On "graciously" accepting

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The entire concept of calling oneself gracious is, in itself, ungracious.

I agree with Andy, have fun with it. Unless of course, you're scared to death at being out there and saying the wrong thing and then a "yes thank you" would be acceptable. But from what I know of FIRST kids, bashfulness is not a common trait.
Heh, yeah I remember one of the regionals last year someone accidentally said "gracefully accepts" and we were all quietly snickering behind their back, picturing their team in tutus accepting the alliance. It really did annoy me though, when everyone says the same thing.
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