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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

Hmm, perhaps it means nothing at all. Every year I've attempted the "google" approach to solving the equation I've been dissapointed when the clue had nothing to do with the game. Here's an example of a game hint...

Quijibo

Must mean there is going to be a "north" game with "hair" and possibly surrounded by donuts.......

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

Reading all these posts, I came up with an idea that combines a lot of them.

If there is a statue at that point in the square, then (just like in National Treasure) it will act like a "sun dial" figure. If someone checks where the shadow is pointing at 3:42, it may tell us something else. Anyone up for this far fetched task?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

If you do a search for Truckin', you'll find a thread about the list of songs for the 2005 IRI and suggestions that Dave be one of the DJs. Dave listed Truckin' as one of the songs to play. Awesome! (Why he doesn't like Cyndi Lauper is beyond me...)

I swear I've seen the Jerry Garcia/Truckin' reference recently, I just can't place it.

V - to Eric's post containing the quote below - this is going to be so obvious this year...I just know it.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

New item in Dave's CD signature:

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The answers to one of the most oft-debated questions of the year is sitting right there in their hands, but they refuse to see it because it does not conform to their expectations.
Is he referring to this or the IR beacon and ribbon cable?

Another Dave item, this one spotlighted by him:
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If you look at where you have come from you can often tell where you are going.
Is that meaning a "throwback game", where the basic idea was used before, such as 2007/1997? Or just the IR and 2004 game?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

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I like the idea about two hints being new... and therefore there being two of something else (that there's usually only 1 of) in the game.

I also like the square, circle, triangle connection and the "T" idea.

What if we combine these two ideas...FIRST hasn't had a game with more than one type of game piece....it's always been just triangles, just circles or just squares....

It's been mentioned already, but this could be an additional clue that points to the possibility of multiple game objects.

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New item in Dave's CD signature:

Is he referring to this or the IR beacon and ribbon cable?
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I think he updated his sig a few days ago, IIRC, so I'm pretty sure it refers to the IR sensor and cable
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

It seems like it is pretty well established that the first two numbers indicate a location, but with GDC, you can never be too sure.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting to start off with 342.24026 as a temperature (in Kelvin of course), so
342.24026 kelvin = 69.09026 degrees Celsius

I don't know, what you can do with that but I thought it was interesting, maybe there was a day that had that temperature that has signifigance? Or maybe someone on the GDC wants everyone to know more about global warming. This hint is starting to remind me the one that corresponded to Triple Play, quirky stuff.

The relation of Trinity Church to National Treasure, I think there maybe something to come out of that, like the fact there will yet again be three teams on an alliance. A few random facts about the history of the church,
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Trinity Church is the only church in the United States and the only building in Boston that has been honored as one of the "Ten Most Significant Buildings in the United States" by the American Institute of Architects (AIA). In 1885, architects voted Trinity Church as the most important building in the U.S.; Trinity Church is the only building from the original 1885 list still included in the AIA's current top ten list. The building was designated a National Historic Landmark on December 30, 1970.
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November 1872: The Great Fire of Boston destroys the second Trinity Church building. The congregation is invited to worship in Huntington Hall of the Institute of Technology.
Maybe one of those two facts can lead to something, if not it's odd history.

Oh and as an Art History Geek, the Church is in a Romanesque Style, which means the arches are rounded, maybe that has something to do with the field.
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THE WATER GAME CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!
So Trinity Church and Copley Square are located in the Back Bay Section of Boston and for those of you who do not know what that means....

Back Bay is a section of Boston that used to be the Back Bay of the City....before they filled it in with Dirt, Clay, Mud, Rocks, and whatever else they could find.

So that means...the game starts in water, and they fill it in with a bunch of stuff. Then as the temperatures begin to rise (see the first thing I stated, about global warming) the environment on the field changes and all of a sudden it goes back to a water game, so teams are challenged to stop the water from coming back and flooding the game area again, kind of like preventing global warming.

Ok I'm done, yeah I looked up the coordinates of the numbers in different orders, looks like I stumbled upon a Red Herring several times. Have fun figuring this one out!
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

I think the numbers represent the stock of VEX. Right at the tail end of the -71.076072 is where Radio Shack jumped ship and IFI took hold.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

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It seems like it is pretty well established that the first two numbers indicate a location, but with GDC, you can never be too sure.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting to start off with 342.24026 as a temperature (in Kelvin of course), so
342.24026 kelvin = 69.09026 degrees Celsius

I don't know, what you can do with that but I thought it was interesting, maybe there was a day that had that temperature that has signifigance? Or maybe someone on the GDC wants everyone to know more about global warming. This hint is starting to remind me the one that corresponded to Triple Play, quirky stuff.
(Emphsis added)

At the end of the Wisconsin FLL State competition we were told the game hit for the 2008 fll game which had somthing to do with global warming. Sorry I can't quote it.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

Dave's signature might refer to palmastry, or something like that. Also, dictionary.com has an alternative definition of "expectations" listed as "the mean of a random variable." I think this might mean that we have varying match times, which would not be announced until something like halfway through the match. This follows the idea of more than one of something FRC has only had one of in the past.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

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There seems to be what looks like a track on top of the building.
Hm? I have no idea what this means.

Maybe the GDC's just taking us around in circles...

Funny you bring this up Libby...because the moment I heard that those were the coordinates for Copley Square, I immediately thought about the Hancock Tower...and the "Tracks" you see on it...here is why...

A little back history on the Hancock Tower...

A while back, the Hancock tower had some problems with wind. Apparently the high winds in the area would cause the tower to sway in such an extreme manner that it would cause the windows to fall out. To solve the problem, they gathered a group of engineers to figure out how to alleviate the problem.

What did they come up with for a solution?

They eliminated the top floor...put in some train tracks, and placed a counterweight on wheels on those tracks so that when the wind forces the building to sway in one direction, the weight moves in the opposite direction.

If you can find the correlation between the last number, and the height of the top floor...we might have an answer. Train tracks, counterweights, etc...
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WOW!
Just now saw that there's a hint, and 8 more then a 100 posts already!

CD, you are crazy!!!
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

whoever stated that we were going to use all 3 shapes i agree, if you look at the map there are circles squares and tryangles

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...&t=h&z=18&om=1
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The relation of Trinity Church to National Treasure, I think there maybe something to come out of that, like the fact there will yet again be three teams on an alliance. A few random facts about the history of the church,
Maybe one of those two facts can lead to something, if not it's odd history.

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i think that's the one in New York City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Treasure_(film)
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

the only number that not in there is 8,...
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Funny you bring this up Libby...because the moment I heard that those were the coordinates for Copley Square, I immediately thought about the Hancock Tower...and the "Tracks" you see on it...here is why...

A little back history on the Hancock Tower...

A while back, the Hancock tower had some problems with wind. Apparently the high winds in the area would cause the tower to sway in such an extreme manner that it would cause the windows to fall out. To solve the problem, they gathered a group of engineers to figure out how to alleviate the problem.

What did they come up with for a solution?

They eliminated the top floor...put in some train tracks, and placed a counterweight on wheels on those tracks so that when the wind forces the building to sway in one direction, the weight moves in the opposite direction.

If you can find the correlation between the last number, and the height of the top floor...we might have an answer. Train tracks, counterweights, etc...
Brilliant Andy, thanks for the insight (I'd give you rep if it wasn't for the fact that, you know, I already gave you some earlier). I really think you hit on something BIG here...

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It seems like it is pretty well established that the first two numbers indicate a location, but with GDC, you can never be too sure.

Anyway, I thought it was interesting to start off with 342.24026 as a temperature (in Kelvin of course), so
342.24026 kelvin = 69.09026 degrees Celsius

I don't know, what you can do with that but I thought it was interesting, maybe there was a day that had that temperature that has signifigance? Or maybe someone on the GDC wants everyone to know more about global warming. This hint is starting to remind me the one that corresponded to Triple Play, quirky stuff.

The relation of Trinity Church to National Treasure, I think there maybe something to come out of that, like the fact there will yet again be three teams on an alliance. A few random facts about the history of the church,
Maybe one of those two facts can lead to something, if not it's odd history.

Oh and as an Art History Geek, the Church is in a Romanesque Style, which means the arches are rounded, maybe that has something to do with the field.
***************************************
THE WATER GAME CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!
So Trinity Church and Copley Square are located in the Back Bay Section of Boston and for those of you who do not know what that means....

Back Bay is a section of Boston that used to be the Back Bay of the City....before they filled it in with Dirt, Clay, Mud, Rocks, and whatever else they could find.

So that means...the game starts in water, and they fill it in with a bunch of stuff. Then as the temperatures begin to rise (see the first thing I stated, about global warming) the environment on the field changes and all of a sudden it goes back to a water game, so teams are challenged to stop the water from coming back and flooding the game area again, kind of like preventing global warming.

Ok I'm done, yeah I looked up the coordinates of the numbers in different orders, looks like I stumbled upon a Red Herring several times. Have fun figuring this one out!
You're crazy Conor. But again, that's why I love ya...

Personally, the big things that matter (IMHO)....

a.) Hancock Tower's Engeering Problems
b.) Direction points to Manchester
c.) Tracks
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