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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

I've seen it both ways.

On 330, captains are elected by the whole team. Drivers are chosen by trial. Now, one year, a senior and a freshman were both drivers, one main, one backup. The senior gave up his spot as driver so the freshman could drive after one or two regionals. The freshman went on to drive the remaining three years of his career.

On 1135, it's student-run (and many of the FRC students are seniors), so the captains were kind of automatic. They were also the drive team.

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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

Team 2080's captian(s) are selected by the team mentors based on experience, commitment, knowledge, leadership skills, etc. The team drivers are selected by audition process. Everyone who wants to be a driver must audition and then the best two are selected by the mentors and captain(s). We have a senior driver and will be selecting a new driver for the upcoming season. In my opinion, the drivers should be based on ability, not grade. If a senior doesn't drive as well as a freshman, let the freshman drive at nationals.

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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

to me, itís kind of like football. There may be a senior who really wants to be the quarterback, but if a freshman is better for the position then the freshmen, not the senior, deserves the spot. And switching drivers mid season really doesnt make much sense to me. Why go to champs, which will have your toughest competition, and put in a cold driver, why not put them in the entire time. Now some teams will switch drive teams between matches. While I dont agree with this either, it does make a little more sense when you got 2 seniors driving and you want underclassmen to get experience.

No offence intended, just my 2 cents...

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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

Are there any teams without student captains? Like, none at all.
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

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Are there any teams without student captains? Like, none at all.
This might not speak for all teams here, but I think that would be a horrible idea. (Nothing against teams who do this, if any) No student management is taking away a valuable part of any team in any sport/activity.
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

1493 had a day of driver testing to see who could complete our makeshift course around the track in the quickest time. The second place person controlled the arm. The "hybrid mode" communicator position was taken by a long-time member of the controls team who hasn't yet had a chance to be on the field. The field coach was a mentor which the drivers felt most comfortable with.
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

Our team voted this year for our two captains. Each of the candidates wrote 2 or so paragraphs about how why we would do a good job as captain and what qualities we have. The team then voted on which paragraphs we liked the best. It worked very well and no one really argued after the selections were made. We made the other candidates our two treasures
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

IMHO, if your picking drivers, I think a good idea is to watch your students throughout the build season. Pick out the ones that work well with others, work well under pressure, and can also work independently. Keep a mental note of those students during try-outs. If your team holds driver try-outs, make sure it's not just about who can drive the robot the best. Give them other challenges that have nothing to do with a robot. (Specifically, I feel a really important skill of a driver is to be able to make on the fly decisions when your coach is unavailable. That doesn't mean to have the ability to defy your coach, but rather think on your feet for yourself.) So give them real life scenarios, and ask them what they would do. If they answer quickly, then there's a potential candidate.


Also, quiz them on the manual.


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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

On Team 93, we have driver, operater, and human player tryouts every year after build. The mentors decide who performed the best, and who had the fastest times, and those people is chosen. It is possible for the same three kids to be on the drive team for all four years, if they are the best.
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

This issue really depends on the current group of students. How dedicated they are and sometimes you know who your drivers are going to be going in to the season. For example, our 2008 drivers had 2 regionals and a championship appearance under there belt going into the season. We knew no one was going to out drive them in tryouts but held them anyway. 1251 is lucky enough to have 2 guys with plenty of experince on the driving sticks as drive coaches. One will fill in if the other is not there. As far as electing captians, the mentors can make suggestions to the head mentor, who it should be. However, our head mentor has the final say in that. I will echo the sentiments of the others that say a captain is not necessirly the most gifted person on the team, but the most dedicated. Most important is the chemistry between the drive coach and their drivers.

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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

We elect a Team President, VP, Treas, Secrtry, Eng Director, and Bus Director each year. They serve as the leadership team that meets weekly to run the team. In Jan/Feb they schedule both a "drive team test" (about the rules and "what if" scenarios - drivers, human player, and coach all take this) and an "actual driving tryout" for those who want to operate the robot or human player (very objective, video taped, timed, and scored). The written test is 40% weighted, the drive test is 40% weighted, and then there is a 20% weight based on a 3 person panel recommendation (consisting of at least one adult). It turns out to be a very fair process and only the absolutely committed students subject themselves to the process.

Sometimes the team president ends up the driver, other times not.

How's that for being complicated!!
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Re: A Captian and Driver Issue

In my team, my head mentor requires us to write an application for the positions we are applying for. It includes an essay section why the person is qualified for the position and the contributions the person has made to the team.

Personally I would think that the person our mentor chooses is also the one that has the votes from the team members.

But our team has so many positions that atleast a forth of the team is a captain of SOMETHING.
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