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Old 10-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: New Game Progress

I would assume Atlantic because it's closer to Dave...
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Ok now for some randomness:
at every regional we will have a webserver our robots will have to open a tcp/ip connection to. Will have to traverse the file structure and find a file. Open the file and it will contain the location to drive to (randomly generated on a per robot basis) at that location we have to place an object and repeat the process. And thats just auton.
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:15 PM
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Re: New Game Progress

It has been reported that there were several late summer sightings of Mr. Lavery working on two rather large shark fin replicas in his garage late into the Virginia evening. Coincidence? I think not.

Hey Cory, ever see that episode of Bugs Bunny?
"How you makeum snowball in summer?"
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Re: New Game Progress

You do understand that members of the GDC do patrol the CD fora, check out game design ideas, and are rather careful not to use an exact idea already posted here.
That being said....
FLL and FTC have done a science/technology theme for a while now. I haven't seen this from FRC yet - at least not the whole game (I know the hybrid mode was supposed to allude to the Mars expedition). I think FRC will be thematic and topical. Perhaps highlighting environmental concerns (game pieces could be aluminum cans, plastic bottles, magazines, etc), perhaps incorporating more obstacles a la the FTC game.
Personally, I'd like to see a politically themed game - we'd call our robot Hanging Chad.
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Re: New Game Progress

This'll be what, the 18th year of FIRST? I could see a second coming of FIRST Frenzy coming in a few years. (Combining the ideas of previous games). But probably not this year. They'd do it for the 20th.

Personally, I had a blast with Triple Play and Rack n' Roll. Overdrive really didn't hold as strategy as high as games like these. (Especially triple play). I love games that force alliance cooperation. Overdrive didn't have much of that after the first 20 seconds of the game. I loved in 2007 when teams had to coordinate the usage of ring robots and ramp robots.
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Re: New Game Progress

I took this picture, zoomed in on various parts and discovered some very interesting things. If you carefully look at the white patch behind the eye, you will see what looks like a torch. Now I have no idea what that means, maybe an Olympics style pentathalon or something like that. Then, If you look at the dorsal fin, about 1/3 the way back, there is a faint image of a meatball in a bowl of spaghetti. I'm guessing that FIRST will be providing lunch to all teams during the Thursday lunch time since the image is located on the first third of the fin, and since competitions are over 3 days, it makes sense that the meal will be provided on Thursday. The last thing I noticed is that I have far too much time on my hands typing this fantasy up, and I will just have to wait for kickoff to see what this year's game actually is.

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Personally, I had a blast with Triple Play and Rack n' Roll. Overdrive really didn't hold as strategy as high as games like these. (Especially triple play). I love games that force alliance cooperation. Overdrive didn't have much of that after the first 20 seconds of the game. I loved in 2007 when teams had to coordinate the usage of ring robots and ramp robots.
Here Here. Those two were definitely my favorites. I would especially like Triple play now that the camera stuff has been figured out better. If the Vision Tetras had green lights on them, that could be truly spectacular.
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I took this picture, zoomed in on various parts and discovered some very interesting things. If you carefully look at the white patch behind the eye, you will see what looks like a torch. Now I have no idea what that means, maybe an Olympics style pentathalon or something like that. Then, If you look at the dorsal fin, about 1/3 the way back, there is a faint image of a meatball in a bowl of spaghetti. I'm guessing that FIRST will be providing lunch to all teams during the Thursday lunch time since the image is located on the first third of the fin, and since competitions are over 3 days, it makes sense that the meal will be provided on Thursday. The last thing I noticed is that I have far too much time on my hands typing this fantasy up, and I will just have to wait for kickoff to see what this year's game actually is.

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I took this picture, zoomed in on various parts and discovered some very interesting things. If you carefully look at the white patch behind the eye, you will see what looks like a torch. Now I have no idea what that means, maybe an Olympics style pentathalon or something like that. Then, If you look at the dorsal fin, about 1/3 the way back, there is a faint image of a meatball in a bowl of spaghetti. I'm guessing that FIRST will be providing lunch to all teams during the Thursday lunch time since the image is located on the first third of the fin, and since competitions are over 3 days, it makes sense that the meal will be provided on Thursday. The last thing I noticed is that I have far too much time on my hands typing this fantasy up, and I will just have to wait for kickoff to see what this year's game actually is.

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On top of spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
I lost my poor meatball,
When somebody sneezed.

It rolled off the table,
And on to the floor,
And then my poor meatball,
Rolled out of the door.

It rolled in the garden,
And under a bush,
And then my poor meatball,
Was nothing but mush.

The mush was as tasty
As tasty could be,
And then the next summer,
It grew into a tree.

The tree was all covered,
All covered with moss,
And on it grew meatballs,
And tomato sauce.

So if you eat spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
Hold on to your meatball,
Whenever you sneeze.

Man, I love that song. Rock on red herring.
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Re: New Game Progress

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Ok that was a fun joke.
Now if you gave the same location to opposing robots (3 total locations unless you are thinking 4v4), and they had to autonomously play king of the hill in that spot then we might have something exciting.

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Personally, I'd like to see a politically themed game - we'd call our robot Hanging Chad.
The name has been done before. In 2004, Team 1218, The CHAbots, named their robot the Hanging CHA. All it did was hang, but with big tri-wheels for climbing it was hard to stop (they literally rolled over bots). They were Einstein Finalist that year with Las Guerillas.
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Re: New Game Progress

I'm predicting that, for the first time since 2005, there won't be any penalties based solely on where your robot is or where it's going. The GDC finally realized that these rules have had a disproportionately negative impact on teams with less skilled drivers and malfunction-prone robots... no one benefits when a team feels like they'd have been a better help to their alliance by not showing up at all.

(I can dream, right?)
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Re: New Game Progress

Uh, I think this picture can mean 3 things.

1. Nothing. It could be trick. Just Dave messing with up while the hype is up. .

2. Getting your swimming trunks out, cause we're going underwater.

3. The gaming element could be a replica of a fish, or something slimy. Just thought of that right now. .
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The picture that Dave posted is linked from the Red Herring Society web site. A WHOIS search reveals that the domain is registered to an individual in Toroto, Canada and the registrar is Tucows. Toronto is home to the Maple Leafs NHL team. Maple leafs are red and maple trees produce maple syrup. Tucows is a rough approximation of the phrase "two cows". Cows produce milk. The "Two Cows" could be interpreted to mean 2% milk, which has a blue label. Clearly the game will have a breakfast theme. There will be large glasses and waffles scattered around the playing field. In the center will be a large table with four chairs. The red team will attempt to apply syrup to the waffles while the blue team pours generous servings of tasty 2% milk. At the same time, members of either team can hand the waffles or glasses of milk to their human players, removing those points from the total score when consumed. Robots will receive points based on the number of waffles/glasses of milk on the table at the end of the match, plus a bonus for robots seated at the table.
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I took this picture, zoomed in on various parts and discovered some very interesting things. If you carefully look at the white patch behind the eye, you will see what looks like a torch. Now I have no idea what that means, maybe an Olympics style pentathalon or something like that. Then, If you look at the dorsal fin, about 1/3 the way back, there is a faint image of a meatball in a bowl of spaghetti. I'm guessing that FIRST will be providing lunch to all teams during the Thursday lunch time since the image is located on the first third of the fin, and since competitions are over 3 days, it makes sense that the meal will be provided on Thursday. The last thing I noticed is that I have far too much time on my hands typing this fantasy up, and I will just have to wait for kickoff to see what this year's game actually is.

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The first thing that caught my eye was the diamond plat like pattern on the fish so maybe there is a piece of diamond plat in the middle of the field. Always remember to read into Dave's clues they are never what they seam to be.
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Is that an Atlantic or Pacific red herring?
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