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Attaching D-Link

How are you guys attaching your D-Link? We have been using velcro, but that's just unsafe and ugly, so we are looking for more insightful ways of attaching the D-Link to the frame. Any suggestions?
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Re: Attaching D-Link

we put foam under it and then zip tie it down
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Re: Attaching D-Link

We used the screw holes (+ screws) and zip ties.

PS. There is very strong velcro out there, we used it for our signage. I believe we bought it from a fabric store. This stuff takes an unusual amount of force to unfasten it.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

We screwed the plastic stand onto the electrical board and zip tied the radio to the stand.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

industrial Velcro is what we use. When It is unused, screws come out easier.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

Standard wide Velcro seems to work fine for the TechnoKats.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

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How are you guys attaching your D-Link? We have been using velcro, but that's just unsafe and ugly, so we are looking for more insightful ways of attaching the D-Link to the frame. Any suggestions?
I'm not sure how Velcro is unsafe in this application. Care to elaborate?
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Re: Attaching D-Link

Since we had no safe surface area to velcro the bridge to the robot this year, we had a mount holding the bridge with bungee cord straps. I think we are going to redo the mount. You can kind of see it on the right side of the robot near the base in the picture. http://tinyurl.com/7x3oxnh
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Re: Attaching D-Link

Velcro with some zip-ties as back up seems to do well. Just remember to make sure the zip ties don't accidentally knock you out of Bridge mode and that wherever you mount it up, the lights are visible.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

1675 also uses wide velcro and some zipties for insurance.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

3M makes a nice product that is velcro like but a lot stronger called Dual lock. It comes in various types and sizes and is available from Digikey.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

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3M makes a nice product that is velcro like but a lot stronger called Dual lock. It comes in various types and sizes and is available from Digikey.
If you have Lego League teams, Lego League uses it to attach the mission models to the table as well.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

On our alliance, in the final round, one robot (using velcro) lost its router, and we lost... so we pledged not to use velcro again.

Has anyone worked out a way to bolt it on, or clamp it or something?
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Has anyone worked out a way to bolt it on, or clamp it or something?
clamp: sheet metal bracket: 3 sides held by sheetmeatal (with holes for fans) and last side held by a strap off to the side so that is doesn't cover lights

or clamp: have a block of sturdy material with a hole on one side that matches outline of router. have 4 holes (1 per corner)...
...that are clearance and have inset spots on each side to lock in nuts. (this is for materials that don't hold threads well)

OR

...that are properly sized and threaded for the bolt you want to use.

personally I would use the first hole option (if i used a clamp at all) since it is easier to replace one or 2 nuts then the entire part in the case of binding and it is faster to remove. For teams with the ability to use sheet metal but don't the accuracy needed for a tight compression hold block I would recommend The top clamp however the second clamp is typically lighter and easier to produce if you do have the needed accuracy.
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Re: Attaching D-Link

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On our alliance, in the final round, one robot (using velcro) lost its router, and we lost... so we pledged not to use velcro again.

Has anyone worked out a way to bolt it on, or clamp it or something?
The use of hook and loop fasteners is not necessarily the problem. Steps can be taken to avoid this:
  1. Use the greatest possible area to mount the radio. The more velcro you use, the more distributed the load will be and the more reliable it will be.
  2. Inspect the state of the fasteners before you mount it to the opposite velcro material. Do this every time you put it on the robot. If it is too fluffy (indicative of broken loops) or hooks apear to be broken, replace it with fresh velcro. Confirm the conection by pulling against it lightly, then pushing it back if it is good.
  3. use the strongest velcro available. The strength of the adhesive backing is just as important as thar of the hooks and loops.

If you really don't want to use Velcro, or you just want to reinforce it, try adhesive backed zip-tie anchors (note: These particular anchors might not be the best, use anchors with an adhesive strong enough to suite your needs).
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