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View Poll Results: What will the winning Allaince Einstein consist of?
Two wide one long 58 48.33%
Three wide 28 23.33%
Two long one wide 29 24.17%
Three long (aka we dont need to tripple to win) 5 4.17%
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

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True.

Has there been a triple in-game with 2 longs and all 3 robots on the surface of the bridge? (sorry 1501!)
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

MSC Finals 1 had 2054 and 548 (both long) on the ends of a triple
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

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GTR East doesn't count unless you're considering teams with swerve drive long.
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

Anybody remember what the Portland #8 alliance was in terms of long and wide? I want to say 2 long, 1 not sure, but I'm not sure on any of them.
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

Portland was 1 long and 2 wide. 1 of the wide bots was really short, and one was a fairly full size wide bot.
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

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Portland was 1 long and 2 wide. 1 of the wide bots was really short, and one was a fairly full size wide bot.
Yeah. 3711 was the alliance captain as a long bot. They selected my old team 360, a full-size wide bot, and then immediately selected 956, an extremely-short wide bot.
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

I think that it is more likely that the top alliance will consist of 2 of the greatest tele-op scoring machines and an excellent defensive robot. At the highest level 2 robots can score as effectively as 3, and I would bet that the 3rd robot on the winning alliance is going to make it happen by preventing ANY balancing for the loosing (2nd place) alliance.
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GTR East doesn't count unless you're considering teams with swerve drive long.
I believe you were referring to:

4307 (Square)
1075 (Swerve, went up in wide orientation)
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I think 4307 was slightly long but not close to max dimentions. Also if it does count we've been apart of 2 of these (MSC).
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Re: Two wides vs Two longs

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Yeah. 3711 was the alliance captain as a long bot. They selected my old team 360, a full-size wide bot, and then immediately selected 956, an extremely-short wide bot.
You forgot to mention... 360 has 6 wheel drive and can hang over 1/3 of their bot off the bridge as can 3711...


Also at Seattle I saw both these teams practice triples. 3711 was with a wide and long and from watching them and some other alliances$@# I highly doubt many teams will succeed at triples with 2 longs.
On the other hand 360 practiced with 2 very good short bots (with stingers) who balanced very easily. The bots where very equal in weight so the bridge balanced immediately without assistance.

All of cd is talking about balancing with long bots, yeah it's possible but it is defiantly slower then three short bots....
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