Chief Delphi Moderators Censoring Posts

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

If you have ever dealt with the folks at first, you'd be EXTREMELY surprised if they threatened that sort of thing.

Okay so my point may have been extreme but they may have asked for it to be taken down.

[3175student17]

I will not go into detail about what happened, but does anyone know if it is too late for them to possibly change the game, with that large of a leak?

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

Back at an FRC Live! I went to, Bill said the GDC keeps a game in backup in case they run into a major problem with the game they were planning to play

The only possible reasons it would stay the same are
1) whether they think this was severe enough
2) whether it is too close to kickoff to change the plans (I think this is likely, as everything has probably already been shipped to local kickoffs)

If this happened, say, two weeks ago, do you think they would have brought out the backup game?

[Aren Siekmeier]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

Okay so my point may have been extreme but they may have asked for it to be taken down.

There were certainly Chief Delphi moderators involved. Threads can only be removed by moderators. Additionally, my post in the game hint thread was not deleted by me, but by a moderator. Whether they were acting on their own initiative or at the request of FIRST or Andymark is hard to tell, and probably not worth speculating about.

All this transpired within 10-20 minutes, from initial discovery to cleanup.

[Rosiebotboss]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

If you have ever dealt with the folks at first, you'd be EXTREMELY surprised if they threatened that sort of thing.

Don't be surprised. All GDC, FIRST Employees that work in the "Game Design Dungeon" and remote Kick Off sites have to sign a NDA and I would assume there are legal ramifications if there is a leak.

[Tom Line]

Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss

Don't be surprised. All GDC, FIRST Employees that work in the "Game Design Dungeon" and remote Kick Off sites have to sign a NDA and I would assume there are legal ramifications if there is a leak.

I'd still be surprised if FIRST reacted that way. I'd think it more likely they they dealt with it on a professional level and simply removed that person from the process. After all, look what happened when their biggest event was hijacked - the way it was handled didn't involve lawyers at all. But it's all speculation. I like to think the best of everyone until proved wrong

[fb39ca4]

I think it's already too late. More and more people are seeing this thread and other posts discussing the deletion, and they will get curious and sooner or later, someone is going to repost the leaked information and it will blow up.

[MrRoboSteve]

I've been dealing with NDAs for 35 years. In cases like this, the NDA exists to make it clear how information about the game should be handled. An NDA signer who leaked information about the game would never be trusted again.

If a student member or mentor on our team came across undisclosed information that would effectively compromise the integrity of the game, my expectation would be that they would keep the details to themselves and let FIRST know immediately. Choosing to act on or publicize the information would reflect poorly both on the person and our team.

Finally, the OP (a mentor) should think carefully how future employers might react to his posture on this question. This post already ranks second on Bing when searching for his name.

[Tyler Olds]

Originally Posted by fb39ca4

I think it's already too late. More and more people are seeing this thread and other posts discussing the deletion, and they will get curious and sooner or later, someone is going to repost the leaked information and it will blow up.

Let's be realistic. More and more constitutes less than 1% of the FIRST community. Yes this might make some people curious, but with kickoff only a few days away this will blow over shortly.

You have a freedom of speech to post what you want and most likely homeland security will not come knocking at your door, but the private owners of this site have the freedom to limit the content and its users if they so choose.

[magnets]

The information was pulled from reddit.com/r/frc too.

I don't know if I saw the full extent of the "leak", which was one element of the game, but I'm not convinced it's real, and if it is, I think it was an accident.

If somebody has the leaked information and wants to share it, they WILL be able to do it. They can post it on facebook, youtube, or some other website that isn't moderated.

CD has been consistent with game leaks. There have been leaks in the past, but there have NEVER been any discussion threads about them. To remain in good standing with FIRST, CD should do the right thing, and take down the leaks.

[fb39ca4]

Originally Posted by Tyler Olds

Let's be realistic. More and more constitutes less than 1% of the FIRST community. Yes this might make some people curious, but with kickoff only a few days away this will blow over shortly.

You have a freedom of speech to post what you want and most likely homeland security will not come knocking at your door, but the private owners of this site have the freedom to limit the content and its users if they so choose.

Not arguing that it should be posted here, just saying in the end it might not make a difference.

[magnets]

Originally Posted by fb39ca4

Not arguing that it should be posted here, just saying in the end it might not make a difference.

Agreed 100%. Google already has a cached copy of a certain thread in the rumor mill.......

[dradel]

What is the probability that one or more of the mods is involved with a current team?

Second if the game has in fact been leaked there is a better than average chance that the team has already started design, prototyping, and build, but how are we to know what teams have the info??

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by dradel

What is the probability that one or more of the mods is involved with a current team?

Second if the game has in fact been leaked there is a better than average chance that the team has already started design, prototyping, and build, but how are we to know what teams have the info??

This is FIRST. Should we assume the best in these people, or the worst?

[alexander.h]

Originally Posted by dradel

What is the probability that one or more of the mods is involved with a current team?

Second if the game has in fact been leaked there is a better than average chance that the team has already started design, prototyping, and build, but how are we to know what teams have the info??

If you go to http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15 and scroll to the bottom of the page, you can see the moderators involved in the Rumor Mill. If you look at the profiles of these moderators, there are some affiliated with FRC teams and others not.

(If, of course, the posts we are talking about were in the Rumor Mill.)

Edit : After checking, out of the 11 mods, there are 7 of them which are involved with an FRC team (based on their profile).

[Ilovepineapples]

Originally Posted by dradel

What is the probability that one or more of the mods is involved with a current team?

Second if the game has in fact been leaked there is a better than average chance that the team has already started design, prototyping, and build, but how are we to know what teams have the info??

The supposed "leak" was not of the game. Even if it (the "leak") were true, no one would know how it worked in with the game as a whole.