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01-04-2003, 05:44 PM
 Melissa Nute I like my hammer... no team Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Feb 2002 Rookie Year: 2001 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,246
Maximum Number of Points

I was wondering if anyone has actually yet taken the time to determine the maximum number of points one alliance could get...

/me should prolly figure it out later if it isn't already done
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01-04-2003, 05:53 PM
 Noah Code Monkey #0861 (The Gondobots) Team Role: Programmer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Venice, California Posts: 139
hmm... not taking into account the QPs, the most Points you can have is when you have all 45 boxes on your side is when you have a stack 22 or 23 high and 23 or 22 boxes on the ground. It would give your side 506 points.
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01-04-2003, 06:21 PM
 SkitzoSmurf Ricksta Happens AKA: Talon #0121 (Rhode Warriors) Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middletown, RI Posts: 161
Was talking to rick on my team, A.K.A. Ricksta121, and he said the max score was basically inpossible but he said it was 666. Found that odd.
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01-04-2003, 06:26 PM
 AJ Quick Your Attention Please FRC #0006 (CogSquad) Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Oct 2002 Rookie Year: 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 464
Quote:
 Originally posted by Noah hmm... not taking into account the QPs, the most Points you can have is when you have all 45 boxes on your side is when you have a stack 22 or 23 high and 23 or 22 boxes on the ground. It would give your side 506 points.
Don't forget the possible 50 points you can get from both the bots being on the ramp. So then 556 total points?

Quote:
 Originally posted by SkitzoSmurf Was talking to rick on my team, A.K.A. Ricksta121, and he said the max score was basically inpossible but he said it was 666. Found that odd.
Actually its 606, but would require the following configuration:

Blue
Stacked: 23
On Ground: 22
On Ramp: 2

23 x 22 + 50 = 556

Red
Stacked: 0
On Ground: 0
On Ramp: 2

0 x 0 + 50 = 50

So in total there are 606 points to be had, but the highest a team (alliance) can get is 556.
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Last edited by AJ Quick : 01-04-2003 at 06:30 PM.
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01-04-2003, 06:27 PM
 Dinush Build Team!! AKA: Dina Begun #0912 (Iron Lyons) Team Role: Student Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 26
This really sounds impossible- 22 boxes in one stack. But than how many you think is possible? 10? 8?
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01-04-2003, 06:28 PM
 Melissa Nute I like my hammer... no team Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Feb 2002 Rookie Year: 2001 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,246
Quote:
 Originally posted by AJ Quick Don't forget the possible 50 points you can get from both the bots being on the ramp. So then 556 total points?
hypothetically you can get 4 bots on the ramp....
so 606?
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01-04-2003, 06:29 PM
 riley_ag Registered User #0824 (SWAT Robotics) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 19
our team got 1158! even more impossible to accomplish though
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01-04-2003, 06:30 PM
 Joe Matt Reject False Icons no team Join Date: Dec 2001 Rookie Year: 2001 Location: CLE Posts: 5,066
606 sounds right. But then you need a bot that can put 22 bins ontop of eachother and the opposing aliance has to be dead.

BTW, who else thinks this will be a VERY loud game?
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01-04-2003, 06:32 PM
 SkitzoSmurf Ricksta Happens AKA: Talon #0121 (Rhode Warriors) Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middletown, RI Posts: 161
Definately going to be a loud game, horribly. One thing that I noticed all of the engineers were pleased about was the fact of NO MORE BALLS. it seems that they didnt like it when soccar balls came from no where striking them in the head while they were sawing something, lol. Now what happens if team mates start throwing boxes?
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01-04-2003, 06:34 PM
 Ian Mathew Registered User #0292 (Panthertech) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Russiaville, IN Posts: 18
Quote:
 Originally posted by AJ Quick Don't forget the possible 50 points you can get from both the bots being on the ramp. So then 556 total points? Actually its 606, but would require the following configuration: Blue Stacked: 23 On Ground: 22 On Ramp: 2 23 x 22 + 50 = 556 Red Stacked: 0 On Ground: 0 On Ramp: 2 0 x 0 + 50 = 50 So in total there are 606 points to be had, but the highest a team (alliance) can get is 556.
It would end up being 656:
Same blue and red scores with this importand adjustment:
your opponent's score is multiplied by 2. Therefore, it'd be 556+100 if all 4 bots got on that middle thing.
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01-04-2003, 06:44 PM
 IsabelRinging Yay! Custom title! None #0180 (SPAM) Join Date: Mar 2002 Rookie Year: 2002 Location: FL Posts: 187
Oooh, but don't forget the situation where the height of the stack is higher than the actual number of boxes in the stack.

So...

24 stack height x 22 boxes + 50 = 578 points

0 stack x 0 boxes + 50 = 50 points

578 + 50(2) = 678 QPs/EPs
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01-04-2003, 06:49 PM
 Ian Mathew Registered User #0292 (Panthertech) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Russiaville, IN Posts: 18
Quote:
 Originally posted by IsabelRinging Oooh, but don't forget the situation where the height of the stack is higher than the actual number of boxes in the stack. So... 24 stack height x 22 boxes + 50 = 578 points 0 stack x 0 boxes + 50 = 50 points 578 + 50(2) = 678 QPs/EPs
Ah...BUT:
Take one box down and turn the top one sideways: 23X23=529+50=579+100 from other team is 679.
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01-04-2003, 06:54 PM
 IsabelRinging Yay! Custom title! None #0180 (SPAM) Join Date: Mar 2002 Rookie Year: 2002 Location: FL Posts: 187
Quote:
 Originally posted by Ian Mathew Ah...BUT: Take one box down and turn the top one sideways: 23X23=529+50=579+100 from other team is 679.
But... but... I checked that!

*busts out the calculator*

Seriously, I thought of that and tried it. Maybe I'm just calculator-retarded.
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01-04-2003, 06:54 PM
 OneAngryDaisy not on CD enough... no team Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Oct 2002 Rookie Year: 2000 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 785
All that math's hurting my brain- build a robot that can stack 23 of those boxes up, post a picture of it- and then you can talk about this... That robot'd surely be stability-challenged
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01-04-2003, 06:56 PM
 AJ Quick Your Attention Please FRC #0006 (CogSquad) Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Oct 2002 Rookie Year: 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 464
Well, if you stack them all up the long way, end to end you could technically account for 12.41 (13) extra boxes!

So:

Blue

Stacks: 36
On Ground: 22
On Bridge: 50

36 x 22 + 50 = 842

Red

Stacks: 0
On Ground: 0
On Bridge: 50

0 x 0 + 50 = 50
50 x 2 = 100

So the total for everything is around 942!
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