Where to get CIM (Atwood, Chiaphua) motors?

[DougHogg]

Does anyone know where to get replacement black CIM (Atwood, Chiaphua) motors at this point?

[Joe Johnson]

You may want to ask for folks to trade you for some.

Additionally, you can get the motor from 2 years ago by buying the Atwood Jack (this is why some mistakenly refer to the motor as the "Atwood Motor" rather than the Chiaphua Motor, pronounced "Chip-a-wha," as it should be). This motor is the same as last years with the exception that it has a 9 tooth gear cut into the shaft.

If you need a part number for the Atwood Jack I can probably dig up our old receipts.

Good Luck.

Joe J.

[DougHogg]

Thanks Joe.

If anyone is going to IRI and has a black Chiaphua (CIM, Atwood) motor they aren't using, our team would sure appreciate it if we could buy it or trade something for it.

[sanddrag]

I prefer Chee-a-fu-a. Chiphua.

[kmcclary]

Originally posted by Joe Johnson
[...]some mistakenly refer to the motor as the "Atwood Motor" rather than the Chiaphua Motor, pronounced "Chip-a-wha," as it should be).[...]

Sorry Joe, but that's a serious Americanization of a Chinese proper name. It has nothing to do with English pronunciation rules. I did some research on this a year or two ago after hearing at least a dozen different pronunciations of "Chiaphua" at Regionals.

Technically, the company is "Chiaphua Industries Limited" (CIL), a Hong Kong corporation. That is a contracted version of the earlier "Chiap Hua Industries". The original company was named after an oriental person, "Chiap Hua".

<searches site> Darn. They USED to have a Pronunciation Guide on their website, but they've since revamped the site and the original History page is gone. Here's some of the remaining data though:

= http://www.chiaphua.com.hk/show.jsp?ppid=14
= http://www.chiaphua.com.hk/show.jsp?ppid=8
= http://home.cclmotors.com/story.htm

<cracks fingers> I'll take a shot at it...

If I remember correctly, it's SOMETHING like: "Chi-A-up HooWAH". The first name is blended, not in three syllables. It starts with either a SH or the hard CH. The vowel is more I then E (together "Chi" is somewhere between "shy" or the start of "chives"). The emphasis is on something RESEMBLING a "long A" in the middle of Chiap. The HW phoneme in the last name is only an approximation. The last name starts with the huff of the H transitioning immediately into the W.

I may be WAY off though. Bear in mind that this is from a several year old memory of a non-Chinese speaker. But I am SURE it's Chinese phonemes and emphasis rules. Since you're speaking of a person with their "name pair", I am also sure that the ONLY significant vocal break is between the p of "Chiap" and the h of "Hua".

I guess you'll have to ask someone who speaks Chinese. They can give you a much better pronunciation of this "proper oriental name" than I can EVER approximate here with our alphabet.

One thing for sure though: It definitely does NOT sound ANYTHING like our Native American Tribe name "Chippewa", which is what I hear so many using these days (and thought it WAS for a while!!!).

- Keith

[sanddrag]

Has anyone called and listened to how they answer the phone? Perhaps that would be a simple way to settle this once and for all.

[kmcclary]

Originally posted by sanddrag
Has anyone called and listened to how they answer the phone? Perhaps that would be a simple way to settle this once and for all.

I wouldn't trust a US Division's switchboard. They hire locals.

You'd probably need to call Hong Kong's main office to get it "right". But you just never know... Even then, you may get a "temp" answering the phones!

Heck... Jaguar has been a division of Ford for quite a while now, and even around Ford itself, I STILL hear these THREE pronunciations: "Jag-You-Are", "Jag-Wire", and "Jag-Wahr".

It all depends on who you're talking to, and where they grew up!

- Keith

[kevin.li.rit]

I don't think the last part would be pronounced with such a big W, Furthermore I do speak more then a smattering of Chinese and I say We should pronounce it Chilupa! Or just stick with the Atwood. But I prefer Chilupa.

[Venkatesh]

We have an in-team joke where everyone learns it as the Chalupa, refers to it as the chalupa, and knows it as the chalupa. Any other name is blasphemy to us. Most team members don't even know that there are other names for it.

[Tytus Gerrish]

i looked on the efficency curve sheet from firdt and in the corner it says
CCL Industrial Motor Limited (CIM)
i google searched it broused a little and heres what i Found


http://www.cimmotor.com/

[petek]

According to a native Chinese person at work Chiaphua (Chiap Hua, actually) is pronounced "she-op wah".

Not that knowing this will make any difference now. I can imagine the response I'd get if I asked for a "she-op wah" motor at school: "you want a what?!"

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by petek

According to a native Chinese person at work Chiaphua (Chiap Hua, actually) is pronounced "she-op wah".

Not that knowing this will make any difference now. I can imagine the response I'd get if I asked for a "she-op wah" motor at school: "you want a what?!"

WOW! The debate is finally over! Except for one thing, did they say "she" like "shey" or "shee" and is the "op" like in the word operation or is it like "oh-p" If you can clear this up the world will come to peace.

[petek]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

WOW! The debate is finally over! Except for one thing, did they say "she" like "shey" or "shee" and is the "op" like in the word operation or is it like "oh-p" If you can clear this up the world will come to peace.

It's actually "shee" and "op" as in operation.

[Joe Johnson]

I have this crazy idea that people's names should be pronounced as they want them pronounced.

If you call the US branch of the Chinese company that makes the Chiaphua motor, they say "Chip-a-wah" (like the Native American tribe).

For that reason, that is what I will call them.

Joe J.