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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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have you noticed that Dave has been talking about baseball alot lately?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=53

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=71

...anyone else find this interesting?

I'm wondering if maybe he was talking about John Neun the baseball player....
Of course, it might just be that baseball is on Dave's mind right about now, because he is REALLY upset that the Washington DC government is about to completely screw up the first serious opportunity to bring baseball back to DC in the last 32 years, and he was getting all excited about getting season tickets, but now it looks like they will just be for one crummy season in RFK Stadium instead of a brand new facility that would be the envy of the baseball world...

... or maybe not.

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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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... or maybe not.
Alright. We are playing with baseballs. Teams will have a hard time getting them to the goals because they all collect in the center of the field because it is a slight V shape incline. The object is to remove all the baseballs making the "center gone" and place them in goals for 4 points each. But, "4 is not enough" If there are no baseballs left in the center "trough" of the field, one of the alliances gets a multiplier making them worth more.

When the center is gone, four is not enough.
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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

Well, baseball and 4 would be the bases, and with the center gone, no pitchers mound, so maybe the human player has to throw something from one of the four bases. The bases would be at corners diagonal from each other, like a baseball diamond.
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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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... or maybe not.

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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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If I were looking for a clue, I would be looking to John Neun. But that is just me.

-dave

Hey! that was my fourth post of the day! Woohoo!
If you search on DL's posts, you will see that this was not, in fact, his fourth post of the day, it was his only post of the day (12-03-04). I think this means the number four is significant. Not that you should find three other posts with clues.

"Looking to John Neun" could mean look at a picture of J. N. (as several have suggested) or to look up Johnny Neun, the baseball player (as others have suggested).

In order for Dave to have used an obscure picture on CD as a clue (say the number 5 on a pipe or the fact that J.N. is standing in front of a paper machine), he would either have to know that such a picture existed or he would have had to troll through the CD picture gallery for hours to find such a coincidence. So, I doubt that the CD picture is the referenced clue.

However, Johnny Neun, as a first baseman, completing an unassisted triple play for Detroit in the 1920's might be something that Dave would be familiar with. And, due to Dave's long time familiarity with CD, the coincidence of Johnny Neun's name with John Neun and John V. Neun would be expected. Hence, if Dave is pointing us toward the unassisted triple play, he would pick Johnny Neun instead of, say, Raphael Furcal, the most recent person to complete an unassisted triple play.

What is the unique feature of the unassisted triple play? One defender eliminates three offensive players.

This leads me to believe that there will be four safe zones (or bases). We will have one defender facing three opponents.

Combining this with the Championship eligibility criteria that there will be three (3) regional champions and Car Nack's prediction

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Car Nack Predicts #1 for 2005

There will Not be alliances with three teams per alliance in 2005.

Car Nack has spoken
leads me to believe that the 2v2 competition from the past few years will not be repeated in 2005.
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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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leads me to believe that the 2v2 competition from the past few years will not be repeated in 2005.
ditto.

i was thinking that maybe FIRST is taking its idea of "gracious professionalism" and its alliances to another level so that you dont want ANY of the other teams on the field to be broken or anything.. say, there are 4 teams on the field, and you have to work with team 2 to do such-n-such, team 3 to do something else, and team 4 for another task, so you can only win if you work with ALL the other robots.
this would be an interesting twist...

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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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ditto.

i was thinking that maybe FIRST is taking its idea of "gracious professionalism" and its alliances to another level so that you dont want ANY of the other teams on the field to be broken or anything.. say, there are 4 teams on the field, and you have to work with team 2 to do such-n-such, team 3 to do something else, and team 4 for another task, so you can only win if you work with ALL the other robots.
this would be an interesting twist...

~Stephanie
Interesting concept. However, how would this be any different from 2001's 4v0 game where you had to work with all of the other robots on the field? With all of the robots working together, you have no defensive force on the field. And defense is what makes a game interesting.
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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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Interesting concept. However, how would this be any different from 2001's 4v0 game where you had to work with all of the other robots on the field? With all of the robots working together, you have no defensive force on the field. And defense is what makes a game interesting.
well they could make it reali complicated (which wouldnt be too surprising...) and for the first half of the game, teams 1 and 2 and teams 3 and 4 would be "allied" and would have to do Task 1, and for the second half of the game, teams 1 and 3 and teams 2 and 4 would have to do Task 2. [then maybe teams 1 and 4 and teams 2 and 3 on task 3?]
but no time in between switching partners to work on robot, so if a robot you were against fell over, you'd be upset because you're allied w/ them the next section of the match.

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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

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well they could make it reali complicated (which wouldnt be too surprising...) and for the first half of the game, teams 1 and 2 and teams 3 and 4 would be "allied" and would have to do Task 1, and for the second half of the game, teams 1 and 3 and teams 2 and 4 would have to do Task 2. [then maybe teams 1 and 4 and teams 2 and 3 on task 3?]
but no time in between switching partners to work on robot, so if a robot you were against fell over, you'd be upset because you're allied w/ them the next section of the match.

~Stephanie
that would be kind of complicated to explain to my grandmother so I don't think FIRST would do it .. though I do like the idea ..
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Re: No official FIRST game hint yet??

Just a tad of info here,
Speaking of numbers...
Check out this post
The KOP is supposedly made up of 5 parts this year...
There's your 5 again...
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