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Re: Most FIRST teams per capita

wow, dude. Where'd you get the idea to compile all this data (and the know-how)?
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Re: Most FIRST teams per capita

This is very interesting, but, at a meeting that the HOT Team seniors attended last Wednesday, Dean Kamen indicated that the number of schools in the state that has access to FIRST teams is the most important metric. This year Michigan has 100 FRC teams, but more importantly 25% of the schools in Michigan have access to a FRC team. This is the highest percentage in the US (according to Dean). He challenged Governor Granholm to tell governors from other states to become a FIRST supporter. FIRST has scheduled a meeting with Governor Granholm to find a way to make FIRST accessible to more teams in Michigan. Dean said that this may become an award at the Championship. If that is true Michigan should win this year. But most importantly, it doesn't matter where a team is from just as long as there is a team where kids can be inspired. Our goal should be to keep current teams functioning and add new teams as we can. Here's to a great year!
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YES Georgia is finally not near the bottom of a list that has something remotely to do with education.
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I was feeling geeky again during lunch, and decided to check on FRC registration totals. As of this morning, 98 teams from Michigan have registered for their first regional. New York is second with 86, and California is third with 85.

In keeping with the original topic of this thread, I went to the US Census site and got state-by-state population figures for 2005, then used these to calculate the number of teams per million residents. I only did the calculation for states with at least 18 FRC teams registered as of this morning; these states account for 759 teams, which is 81% of the teams registered.

And the rankings are:

1 NH has 26 registered teams, which is 20.3 teams per million residents.
2 MI has 98 registered teams, which is 10.0 teams per million residents.
3 CT has 28 registered teams, which is 8.4 teams per million residents.
4 KS has 20 registered teams, which is 7.2 teams per million residents.
5 VA has 50 registered teams, which is 6.8 teams per million residents.
6 MO has 38 registered teams, which is 6.6 teams per million residents.
7 MA has 38 registered teams, which is 6.0 teams per million residents.
8 NY has 86 registered teams, which is 4.7 teams per million residents.
9 CO has 20 registered teams, which is 4.5 teams per million residents.
10 NJ has 37 registered teams, which is 4.4 teams per million residents.
11 WI has 19 registered teams, which is 3.5 teams per million residents.
12 IN has 20 registered teams, which is 3.2 teams per million residents.
13 PA has 35 registered teams, which is 2.8 teams per million residents.
14 CA has 85 registered teams, which is 2.5 teams per million residents.
15 FL has 40 registered teams, which is 2.5 teams per million residents.
16 GA has 18 registered teams, which is 2.1 teams per million residents.
17 OH has 23 registered teams, which is 2.0 teams per million residents.
18 IL has 23 registered teams, which is 1.9 teams per million residents.
19 TX has 19 registered teams, which is 0.9 teams per million residents.

[Note: total registration as of twenty minutes ago is 942 teams, up from 937 this morning and 929 at 5pm CDT yesterday. So all the statistics in this post are going to be changing...]
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Re: Most FIRST teams per capita

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[Note: total registration as of twenty minutes ago is 942 teams, up from 937 this morning and 929 at 5pm CDT yesterday. So all the statistics in this post are going to be changing...]
Are you going to update your statistics on a regular basis? Can you calculate a US average for us? To me you are certainly welcome to demonstrate your geekiness on a regular basis!
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I was feeling geeky again during lunch...

Richard, you are da man.

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Are you going to update your statistics on a regular basis? Can you calculate a US average for us? To me you are certainly welcome to demonstrate your geekiness on a regular basis!
I don't know about a regular basis, but it seems appropriate to do this analysis again late tomorrow night, just before 2nd regional registration opens. Depending on how the Cards are doing in Game 4 of the Series, I may get to it by midnight or thereabouts.

It also seems appropriate to do the analysis again after registration closes on the first of December. Those will be the really important totals. These preliminary numbers mostly indicate which teams have raised enough money to register early and/or for their preferred events.

As for a US average, I think that including all the states would create some skewed looking results, due to sensitive dependence on small changes in the number of teams. Even so, a few other states should have been included; in the updated analysis below I have added South Carolina, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Oklahoma. I have also tried to correct my most egregious error -- omitting the Canadian province of Ontario, which is of course an FRC powerhouse with 36 teams and our largest regional competition! With these additions the total now accounts for 826 teams, which is 88% of the teams registered.

The updated results:

1 NH has 26 registered teams, which is 20.3 teams per million residents.
2 MI has 98 registered teams, which is 10.0 teams per million residents.
3 CT has 28 registered teams, which is 8.4 teams per million residents.
4 KS has 20 registered teams, which is 7.2 teams per million residents.
5 VA has 50 registered teams, which is 6.8 teams per million residents.
6 MO has 38 registered teams, which is 6.6 teams per million residents.
7 MA has 38 registered teams, which is 6.0 teams per million residents.
8 NY has 86 registered teams, which is 4.7 teams per million residents.
9 CO has 20 registered teams, which is 4.5 teams per million residents.
10 NJ has 37 registered teams, which is 4.4 teams per million residents.
11 SC has 17 registered teams, which is 4.2 teams per million residents.
12 OR has 13 registered teams, which is 3.6 teams per million residents.
13 WI has 19 registered teams, which is 3.5 teams per million residents.
14 IN has 20 registered teams, which is 3.2 teams per million residents.
15 OK has 10 registered teams, which is 2.9 teams per million residents.
16 PA has 35 registered teams, which is 2.8 teams per million residents.
17 ON has 36 registered teams, which is 2.8 teams per million residents.
18 AZ has 14 registered teams, which is 2.7 teams per million residents.
19 CA has 85 registered teams, which is 2.5 teams per million residents.
20 FL has 40 registered teams, which is 2.5 teams per million residents.
21 GA has 18 registered teams, which is 2.1 teams per million residents.
22 WA has 13 registered teams, which is 2.1 teams per million residents.
23 OH has 23 registered teams, which is 2.0 teams per million residents.
24 IL has 23 registered teams, which is 1.9 teams per million residents.
25 TX has 19 registered teams, which is 0.9 teams per million residents.
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Re: Most FIRST teams per capita

Indiana has 21 teams... thank you very much ( keep getting bumped higher and higher)
btw, this data is very interesting.

How about major judged awards/competitions (at nationals... no regionals) won per state? I bet that would jumble things up quite a bit (knowing hammond would add a bunch)
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Indiana has 21 teams... thank you very much ( keep getting bumped higher and higher)
btw, this data is very interesting.

How about major judged awards/competitions (at nationals... no regionals) won per state? I bet that would jumble things up quite a bit (knowing hammond would add a bunch)
I was only counting teams that are actually registered for a 2007 FRC event, so the Indiana count really is 20 teams as of this morning. However, this could and probably will change very soon.

South Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and Florida have all registered more teams since my last update. And somehow I left out Maryland.

As suggested earlier, I will recalculate based on registration totals as of late tonight, just before 2nd regional registration opens.

BTW, total registration as of this writing is 951 teams, up nine from yesterday afternoon. 902 of these are based in the US, and a recent news item noted that the US population has passed the 300 million mark. So the US average is about three teams per million residents.

And we also reached a milestone this morning; team numbers have reached the 2100 mark with the addition of a rookie team from Port St. Lucie, FL.
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I imagine a lot of the missing teams are those on the invisible wait lists for Manchester, Richmond, Orlando, Ypsilanti, Detroit, Kansas City, San Jose, San Diego, Philadelphia, and Hempstead. Ten Regionals sold out this year as compared to the six last year at this same time. Accounting for up to ten or so reserved waiting list slots for each of those sold out.
SBPLI for instance has 8 teams that are registered but that aren't visible yet.

These won't show up to give us final numbers until sometime after the December 1st registration close.

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Here's a twist on Richard's statistics. Essentially, the same numbers just in a different light. For a minimum $10,000 investment per team this is how much per person it would cost state-by-state:
1 NH $0.20
2 MI $0.10
3 CT $0.08
4KS $0.07
5 VA $0.07
6 MO $0.07
7 MA $0.06
8 NY $0.05
9 CO $0.05
10 NJ $0.04
11 SC $0.04
12 OR $0.04
13 WI $0.04
14 IN $0.03
15 OK $0.03
16 PA $0.03
17 ON $0.03
18 AZ $0.03
19 CA $0.03
20 FL $0.03
21 GA $0.02
22 WA $0.02
23 OH $0.02
24 IL $0.02
25 TX $0.01
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Last year the Tel Aviv Regional had 26 teams, for a ratio of 4.1 teams/million population....this year the goal for FIRST Israel is 36 teams, or 5.7 teams per million!

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... As suggested earlier, I will recalculate based on registration totals as of late tonight, just before 2nd regional registration opens.

BTW, total registration as of this writing is 951 teams, ...
Up to 978 now. Since 2nd regional registration opens tomorrow at noon Eastern Time, I'll wait until just before then to recalculate teams-per-million-residents (TPMR) statistics. I had expected to see more teams by now -- but as Mark pointed out, many are probably still going to remain 'invisible' until after registration closes December 1st.

Although US average TPMR is running just a little over three right now, we should expect this figure to climb closer to four when all registered teams can be counted.
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Total registration is now up to 982 teams, with 2nd regional registration trying to begin.

US average is up to 3.1 teams-per-million-residents (TPMR). The updated states rankings by TPMR:

Rank / State / Teams / TPMR
1 / NH / 26 / 20.3
2 / MI / 100 / 10.2
3 / CT / 29 / 8.7
4 / MA / 48 / 7.6
5 / VA / 54 / 7.4
6 / KS / 20 / 7.2
7 / MO / 39 / 6.8
8 / NY / 90 / 4.9
9 / CO / 22 / 4.9
10 / SC / 18 / 4.5
11 / NJ / 37 / 4.4
12 / OR / 13 / 3.6
13 / WI / 19 / 3.5
14 / MD / 18 / 3.3
15 / AZ / 17 / 3.3
16 / IN / 20 / 3.2
17 / ON / 38 / 3.0
18 / OK / 10 / 2.9
19 / PA / 35 / 2.8
20 / GA / 22 / 2.6
21 / CA / 88 / 2.6
22 / FL / 41 / 2.5
23 / OH / 24 / 2.1
24 / WA / 13 / 2.1
25 / IL / 24 / 2.0
26 / TX / 19 / 0.9

These 25 US states plus Ontario account for 884 teams, which is 90% of the total.

Massachusetts has moved up a few spots with 10 additional registrations since my last calculation. Maryland is now on the list, as it should have been earlier (my bad).

And Michigan has reached the 100 team mark. New York and California are probably not far behind. As has been pointed out earlier in this thread, these figures (1) are preliminary, and (2) do not include 'invisible' teams that we will know about after December 1st.
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