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**FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

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The Engineering Department is pleased to announce the availability of the Advance Materials List for the 2006 competition. Please go to http://www2.usfirst.org/2006comp/AdvanceBuy_2006_r4.pdf for full details.

This list contains common materials required to build the team versions of the field elements for the 2006 competition.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Informat

Okay, I have been silent but now I must speak.

The field includes a ramp like this /T\ where the / and the \ are polycarb covered 4X8 sheets of plywood and the T is a diamond plate 4X8 sheet of plywood.

I have not inside knowledge, but it just seem to me that that is the most likely configuration given the stuff on the advanced buy list.

This is just a guess, but I just might be right.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

so kinda like the stack attack ramp..hmmm
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Close Joe but I believe that it will be \_/ . When one team tips it down the other side will rise.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

OK, I'll be the first one to say that the only thing on that list that really stumps me is the Luan.

Luan is definitely non-structural.
http://www.ply.in/luan-plywood.htm


Maybe that is some sort of fencing like the lexan was in 2003?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

The following items are the same from last year:
1/4" x 4' x 8' Plywood (more this year though)
1/2" x 4' x 8' Plywood (more)
1" x 3" x 8' Lumber (more)
1" x 5" x 8"(? i think they mean ft here...maybe not though) Lumber (same if in = ft for this one)
2" x 3" x 8' Lumber (more)

I think all that 2x4 looks similar to what 2003 or even 2004 with a raised surface and steps . 17 pieces of 2x4? that has to be to build a floor or something similar.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Informat

Can someone help me out here... is Luan a misspelling of Lauan?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

I agree that we probally have some sort of ramp, but the plywood numbers dont quite make sense to me.. the 1/2" plywoold should work as decking of a ramp, but why include the 3/4" ?
unless there is another structure that must be stronger than the 1/2" Like others have said the luan is not structural, but neither is 1/4" plywood... robots could easily break that if contacted.
But also keep in mind these materials usually include some sort of half wall for the operators to stand behind as well as supports for it, so all of this most likely will not be going on the field... maby one of the 1/2" sheets is used for that. Also the pratice field they spec out usually is only half if that of the field.
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Informat

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Can someone help me out here... is Luan a misspelling of Lauan?
Mike, I have no idea what you are referring to, but maybe?
http://miniatures.about.com/od/glossary/g/luanplywd.htm

Also, I'm willing to bet that this is not the BOM for the entire field.
Maybe half, if that even.
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Mike, I have no idea what you are referring to, but maybe?
http://miniatures.about.com/od/glossary/g/luanplywd.htm

Also, I'm willing to bet that this is not the BOM for the entire field.
Maybe half, if that even.
Now that you showed me that I think we are referring to the same product that has many working names.
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Now that you showed me that I think we are referring to the same product that has many working names.
deffinately don't just do a google search for "luan"

not exactly FIRST friendly
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deffinately don't just do a google search for "luan"

not exactly FIRST friendly
LOL Someone has "safe search" turned off?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Informat

When I first looked at the list, I thought the polycarb and diamond plate were for the player stations...but that may not be the case. There's a LOT of lumber here...156' of 2x4. Does anyone have the list from 2003 of how much lumber was needed for that ramp?

I am betting on either 4 sided ramp or, relating to the clue, a pentagular ramp with the luan as the top perhaps.

We wont' see a crash and bash like 2003, so there must be something on top of this structure as well...OR...

It may be similar to an idea I had last year with a platform 2-3' off the ground and space UNDER it for robots...game objects would have to be placed on TOP of the platform. In my game, those objects were traffic cones. Don't think we'll see those...but we'll see.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Informat

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LOL Someone has "safe search" turned off?
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What I find interesting is the additional "6 boxes of varying size". In past years, these were the compressor for rookie/2nd year teams, and the kit chassis, but everyone has 6 additional boxes? This could be interesting.

Kevin: the parts lists for wood fields for 2003 and 2004 are uploaded to this post, from the looks of it, this years advance list calls for significantly more lumber than either year.
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