Go to Post PS. Listen to the wise Brandon Martus. Think before you (re)act. - artdutra04 [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy > Scouting
CD-Events   CD-Media   CD-Spy   FRC-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 03:22 PM
Unsung FIRST Hero
Greg Needel Greg Needel is offline
Lets do this....
FRC #2848 (All-sparks)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,882
Greg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Greg Needel Send a message via Skype™ to Greg Needel
paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Thread created automatically to discuss a document in CD-Media.

2006 Excel Scouting database by
__________________
Greg Needel│www.robogreg.com
Director of the Innovation Gym, Lyle School of Engineering, Southern Methodist University
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 03:25 PM
Ian Curtis Ian Curtis is offline
Best Available Data
FRC #1778 (Chill Out!)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Puget Sound
Posts: 2,413
Ian Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond reputeIan Curtis has a reputation beyond repute
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Greg I'm... amazed!!! That thing is crazy! I think its going to Atlanta with us, as our hard copy database, which was very similar, didn't work (we made our pick list without it as it got misplaced ). I do have a question though, can the list of teams be extended as aren't there 80+ teams in the divisions at Atlanta?
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 04:07 PM
Bill_Hancoc's Avatar
Bill_Hancoc Bill_Hancoc is offline
Volkswagen Enthusiast
AKA: Bill Hancock
FRC #0573 (MechWarriors)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Ortonville MI.
Posts: 589
Bill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud ofBill_Hancoc has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Bill_Hancoc
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

It is very nice but (dont worry i think this is an excel problem) when i try to click links to the web or within the document i get the error message "This operation has been canceled due to restrictions in effect on this computer. Please contact your system administrator." i tried searching the microsoft help but all i found was 2 different spellings of canceled/cancelled does anybody else have this problem/know how to fixit?
__________________

MechWarriors 573

  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 04:27 PM
Unsung FIRST Hero
Greg Needel Greg Needel is offline
Lets do this....
FRC #2848 (All-sparks)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,882
Greg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Greg Needel Send a message via Skype™ to Greg Needel
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis
Greg I'm... amazed!!! That thing is crazy! I think its going to Atlanta with us, as our hard copy database, which was very similar, didn't work (we made our pick list without it as it got misplaced ). I do have a question though, can the list of teams be extended as aren't there 80+ teams in the divisions at Atlanta?
Thanks for the feedback.

yes the team list can be extended..i can do it really easy actually I was thinking that 78 teams might be enough but i can always add more, when the championship divisions are released i could put out a new version with them in it and the appropriate number of teams. I also have a word format of the associated scouting sheet if people want.
__________________
Greg Needel│www.robogreg.com
Director of the Innovation Gym, Lyle School of Engineering, Southern Methodist University
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 04:30 PM
Unsung FIRST Hero
Greg Needel Greg Needel is offline
Lets do this....
FRC #2848 (All-sparks)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,882
Greg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Greg Needel Send a message via Skype™ to Greg Needel
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill_Hancoc
It is very nice but (dont worry i think this is an excel problem) when i try to click links to the web or within the document i get the error message "This operation has been canceled due to restrictions in effect on this computer. Please contact your system administrator." i tried searching the microsoft help but all i found was 2 different spellings of canceled/cancelled does anybody else have this problem/know how to fixit?

I haven't seen this it might be something in your virus software preventing external apps from accessing the Internet. I would guess that is a system thing not a database thing, as i have used it on a bunch of machines with no issues.
__________________
Greg Needel│www.robogreg.com
Director of the Innovation Gym, Lyle School of Engineering, Southern Methodist University
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-14-2006, 04:34 PM
Btower's Avatar
Btower Btower is offline
Volunteer
AKA: Ben Tower
no team
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 1997
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 84
Btower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to beholdBtower is a splendid one to behold
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

A couple of things which I'm not sure are important for you purposes, but I felt I should say them anyway:

1. There is no provision for a DQ, which results in zero Qualifying and Ranking Points.
2. I'm not sure you are calculating ranking points accurately.

the rules this year:

First is Qualifing Points (QP's) you seem to have this correct.
Win - 2pt
Loss/DQ - 0pt
Tie - 1pt

In the event of a tie in QP's they use ranking points (RP's) which are awarded as follows:

Win - The lesser of Unpenalized Alliance Scores from either Alliance
Loss - Penalized score of losing alliance
Tie - Penalized score of own alliance.
DQ - zero

I just finished a backup scoring sheet in excel, what a pain to get all these difference in place.
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-16-2006, 09:46 AM
Unsung FIRST Hero
Greg Needel Greg Needel is offline
Lets do this....
FRC #2848 (All-sparks)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,882
Greg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond reputeGreg Needel has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Greg Needel Send a message via Skype™ to Greg Needel
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Quote:
Originally Posted by Btower
A couple of things which I'm not sure are important for you purposes, but I felt I should say them anyway:

1. There is no provision for a DQ, which results in zero Qualifying and Ranking Points.
2. I'm not sure you are calculating ranking points accurately.

the rules this year:

First is Qualifing Points (QP's) you seem to have this correct.
Win - 2pt
Loss/DQ - 0pt
Tie - 1pt

In the event of a tie in QP's they use ranking points (RP's) which are awarded as follows:

Win - The lesser of Unpenalized Alliance Scores from either Alliance
Loss - Penalized score of losing alliance
Tie - Penalized score of own alliance.
DQ - zero

I just finished a backup scoring sheet in excel, what a pain to get all these difference in place.

you are 100% correct my database doesn't take this into account and after thinking about adding the functionality i decided it is not necessary. The only thing that it will cause is a slight shift in real time ranking which is not a big deal. IMO those real time ranks that align with the FIRST rankings are good but since you are going to be behind with data entry anyway having someone checking the real rankings board is probably not a bad idea anyway. This being said if there are a ton of people who think this bug needs to be fixed i will have no problems fixing it.
__________________
Greg Needel│www.robogreg.com
Director of the Innovation Gym, Lyle School of Engineering, Southern Methodist University
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-16-2006, 11:38 AM
Andy B's Avatar
Andy B Andy B is offline
College Student, Mentor
FRC #1259 (Paradigm Shift)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Pewaukee, WI
Posts: 33
Andy B will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Andy B
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Very nice, this will definitely be used by us. we were actually planning on writing a database much like this, but no need to reinvent the wheel now.

Thank you for the time you spent on this great tool!!!
__________________
Andy B: College Student, Mentor
Paradigm Shift, 1259 http://www.team1259.org
2004 Midwest Regional: Team Spirit Award Winner, Highest Seeded Rookie Team Award Winner, 4th Seed, 7-1-0 Record , Lost in Quarter Finals
2005 Midwest Regional: Imagery Award Winners, 16th Seed, 5-5-0 Record, Unpicked
2005 Championships, Newton Division: 5th seed, 6-1-0 Record, Advanced to semifinals
2006 Wisconsin Regional: Judges Award, 23th seed, 5-7-0 Record, Unpicked
2007 Wisconsin Regional: 33rd seed, 3-4-1 Record, Lost in Quarterfinals
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-17-2006, 09:16 AM
Graham Donaldson's Avatar
Graham Donaldson Graham Donaldson is offline
Formerly robotcanuck1676
AKA: Graham Donaldson
FRC #1676 (The Pascack Pi-oneers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Woodcliff Lake, NJ
Posts: 897
Graham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant future
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

This file is amazing! We were at the NJ regional and I came up with a really lame scouting sheet in a half an hour, and we went with that. But this is so much better than what we had. The only beef I have with it: there's so much to fill out to make it effective. But it's probably OK, because with ours, we were making notes a lot of the time. But with this, I think it will be easier, because you aren't making comments, you're just giving it numbers. Thanks a lot Greg!

The Canuck
__________________
-Graham

2008 NJ Regional, 2009 Palmetto Regional: Chairman's Award Winners
2010 NJ Regional Champions (w/ 25 and 3059), 2010 VA Regional Champions (w/ 1086 & 1418)

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."- Sam Ewing
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."- Thomas Edison
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-27-2006, 03:48 PM
paulcd2000's Avatar
paulcd2000 paulcd2000 is offline
Accidentally speaks in C
AKA: Paul Dagnelie
FRC #1719 (The Umbrella Corp.)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 368
paulcd2000 is a jewel in the roughpaulcd2000 is a jewel in the roughpaulcd2000 is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via AIM to paulcd2000
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Wow. It's just Wow. at chesapeake, we just filled up a notebook with information. This is SO much more neat, and user friendly. It even gives a (rough) score for each robot. I'm very impressed that someone would take the time to go through all of this and write all this up. Thank you very very much.
__________________
"People don't say 'It's just a game' when their team is winning!" -- Scott Adams

5.5 students (on average)* $7/h *210 hours/student= $8085 of labor, all volunteered (not counting mentors', who are each that much)

We have blades on our robot?! ***sweeeeeet***

There are 11 types of people in the world. Those who can read binary, those who can't, and those who say this joke is supposed to be, "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who can read binary and those who have a life."
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-31-2006, 07:15 AM
Nimmy Nimmy is offline
also Head of Strategy\Translation
AKA: Nimrod Amir
FRC #1577 (SteamPunk)
Team Role: Animator
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Raanana, Israel
Posts: 128
Nimmy is a jewel in the roughNimmy is a jewel in the roughNimmy is a jewel in the roughNimmy is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via ICQ to Nimmy Send a message via AIM to Nimmy Send a message via MSN to Nimmy
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

cheers greg, great file
and good calls on the regional the past 2 days =)
__________________
We cannot enter into alliances until we are acquainted with the designs of our neighbors.
- Sun Tzu

I guess someone should tell Mr. Tzu about FIRST

check out our HERBEW translation to the 2006 game manual at: http://www.avivrobotics.net

Don't mess with Nimrod's
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-20-2006, 08:41 PM
Graham Donaldson's Avatar
Graham Donaldson Graham Donaldson is offline
Formerly robotcanuck1676
AKA: Graham Donaldson
FRC #1676 (The Pascack Pi-oneers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Woodcliff Lake, NJ
Posts: 897
Graham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant futureGraham Donaldson has a brilliant future
Re: paper: 2006 Excel Scouting database

Hey everybody.

Greg, your database worked like a charm at the Palmetto Regional. It actually got us (a 2nd-year team) picked for I believe the 4th alliance and all the way into the finals. The information that you decided needed to be gathered was so helpful and useful because we knew exactly what robots could do ahead of time and therefore work out strategies for autonomous and the game before the match. The only real problem was that data entry is very time-consuming. I spent 2 hours when we got back to our hotel finishing putting in data for teams that we had to play the next day (this was on Fri). However, all in all, it was an amazing tool, it got us picked for the 2nd-place alliance, and it made a 2nd-year team realize how valuable scouting is, where it takes some teams 5 or 6 years!

Greg, I can't thank you enough.

The Canuck
__________________
-Graham

2008 NJ Regional, 2009 Palmetto Regional: Chairman's Award Winners
2010 NJ Regional Champions (w/ 25 and 3059), 2010 VA Regional Champions (w/ 1086 & 1418)

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."- Sam Ewing
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."- Thomas Edison
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
White Paper Discuss: 2006 Aim High Scouting Sheet Extended Tomasz Bania Extra Discussion 3 02-03-2006 01:55 PM
White Paper Discuss: 2006 Aim High Robotics Competition Robot Scouting Sheet Tomasz Bania Extra Discussion 6 01-30-2006 04:18 PM
White Paper Discuss: Scouting database Marjory Frosty Extra Discussion 0 01-08-2006 06:03 PM
White Paper Discuss: [revised] Update to Karthik's Scouting Database petek Extra Discussion 2 04-12-2005 07:28 PM
White Paper Discuss: Karthik's 2005 Championship Scouting Database Karthik Extra Discussion 33 04-11-2005 02:05 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:02 AM.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi