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Re: Game Hint #1

this seriously makes me mad, lol
it's like we're robotics team members in season
detectives and forensic investigators off season, lol
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Re: Game Hint #1

I believe the individual game idea personally, they don't travel in schools that would be a typical 1st (not the acronym) clue. They want to give you something that will tell you about the game but not give it away.

Whoever has the job of developing clues, has an awesome job, im envious!
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Re: Game Hint #1

I think that the hint is not about the opah. I think it is about the unreadable text. It could mean that the field will have a message on a central platform that changes in between matches that only the cameras can read that will tell where the game pieces need to be scored for a large bonus.
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Re: Game Hint #1

I get it! Since it is a picture of a fish than we will only be able to use fisher price motors
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Re: Game Hint #1

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I get it! Since it is a picture of a fish than we will only be able to use fisher price motors
oh i hope not

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Re: Game Hint #1

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look what i found in the 'Opah' restaurant website, under 'the meaning of opah'.
This restaurant is the first result in google when searching for 'opah'.

http://www.opahrestaurant.com/whats-an-opah.htm
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THE OPAH OR

“MOONFISH”

ONCE WAS VIEWED

AS GOOD LUCK

WHEN CAUGHT BY

OLD-TIME FISHERMEN

AND OFTEN GIVEN AWAY

AS A GESTURE OF

GOOD WILL
This sounds more like the FRC game hints. I'm guessing there will be a "big" piece that teams need to go for.
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Re: Game Hint #1

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This sounds more like the FRC game hints. I'm guessing there will be a "big" piece that teams need to go for.
Can we say Gracious Professionalism?
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Re: Game Hint #1

what is this deal about a password. im confused as to what all of you are talking about trying different things as a password
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what is this deal about a password. im confused as to what all of you are talking about trying different things as a password
Some people are convinced that there is coded information stored in the image. Kinda silly really.
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Re: Game Hint #1

An encryption was found in the hint.

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There are many methods of hiding information in photographs. I was able to scan the image at the highest sensitivity for all the major types of encryption (jsteg, jphide, outguess, and invisible) The system of hiding information within photos was able to detect a hidden message. Now the methodology I used just exposes the type of hidden message and not the message itself. The message unfortunatly for us appears to be hidden in the JPHIDE which utilizes a password based encryption so without the password it will be impossible to figure out the message. Although we do know that there is something there.


****disclaimer: the way the analysis tools that I have scan the data it looks for missing voids in repeating color sections of the photo (complex photos with lots of colors are best for hiding). When I tested with normal sensitivity I didn't see any result, but on cranking up the sensitivity I found proof of an encryption. With all things like this it is possible to get a false positive, but since this is all for fun anyway we can just assume it is there.



so what do we think the password is? I might try to make a dictionary and brute force it later after I am done with the bench top test of the new control system.
So there might be information in the picture, I just don't think it was from FRC
because there was an encryption on the the same pictures that were found on the internet.
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Can we say Gracious Professionalism?
I was just saying this sounds more inline with how the hints relate to the game. I was essentially agreeing with the quoted post, not condemning it.
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Re: Game Hint #1

i continue to hold that the important thing of the clue is not the picture itself (including the so-called inscription) but the many things the fish represents...
the 2 sides of the moon (2 sided gamefield)
Being given away (something to do with gracious professionalism)
Vertical migration (climbing)
its prominent at 34 degree latitude (ramp angle)
and its four colors (4 types of game pieces)

but it looks like we are all starting to go in circles so it might be best to give the clue a rest until the next hint
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i continue to hold that the important thing of the clue is not the picture itself (including the so-called inscription) but the many things the fish represents...
the 2 sides of the moon (2 sided gamefield)
Being given away (something to do with gracious professionalism)
Vertical migration (climbing)
its prominent at 34 degree latitude (ramp angle)
and its four colors (4 types of game pieces)

but it looks like we are all starting to go in circles so it might be best to give the clue a rest until the next hint
isn't verticle migration where the fish swims to a certain depth and back at specific points of a 24 hour period.

eg:

some fish in deep parts of the ocean swim to the surface each night to feed.

maybe this means that there will be times where we work on our own and when we work together.

or maybe it refers to some other type of game that has time periods

or maybe im wrong.

Hmmm....
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Re: Game Hint #1

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i continue to hold that the important thing of the clue is not the picture itself (including the so-called inscription) but the many things the fish represents...
the 2 sides of the moon (2 sided gamefield)
Being given away (something to do with gracious professionalism)
Vertical migration (climbing)
its prominent at 34 degree latitude (ramp angle)
and its four colors (4 types of game pieces)

but it looks like we are all starting to go in circles so it might be best to give the clue a rest until the next hint

I think you're right that the clues is what the fish represents. If it was anything else then we would have to use a computer program to find what is it the picture and many people may not have the equipment or the programs to do it. The only way to allow everyone at the chance of finding what the hint means is if clue is about what the fish represents.

I know this argument has been posted before but a good deal of people seem to focus on the what's in the picture and not what the picture represents.
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I think you're right that the clues is what the fish represents. If it was anything else then we would have to use a computer program to find what is it the picture and many people may not have the equipment or the programs to do it. The only way to allow everyone at the chance of finding what the hint means is if clue is about what the fish represents.

I know this argument has been posted before but a good deal of people seem to focus on the what's in the picture and not what the picture represents.
FIRST is all about being as fair and even to all the teams as possible so they wouldnt encript anything seeing as how many (if not most) are not as handy with software like that (myself included)...unless someone has something that would completely prove me wrong i think ill stay the same

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