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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

On the reflections, it makes sense that the red outline is the reflection of the forward post, and explains the extra hole that seems to appear on the rear post. The image you referenced seems to demonstrate that well. The area that you outlined in orange may still be a reflection or refraction of one of the other posts that are present. If you notice in the image that you reference, the shadows are at a different angle from the image in the hint. The light source should be more from the rear and side rather than more above. I do not remember much about the physics of light, but changing the angle of the light source should change the way things are reflected and refracted.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

I doubt reflections have anything to do with it. I don't think the GDC would go through the trouble of making a rendering showing other parts besides what they were trying to show.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

It appears to be a slider yoke. It instantly reminded me of that game where there is a waiter and you have to pile dishes on his tray and they more that goes on the higher his hand has to extend in the air. If it gets to high then he tips.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

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one question could be why the GDC waited until today to release the hint?...
This is probably because kickoff is not until January 9th. We have more time to think about the game hint in the month before kickoff.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

I think this piece is designed to suspend the rails, not provide rigid support.

I highly doubt that lexan piece is for support. First, its too expensive, and second, this piece (owing to its short length and connection style) is apparently designed to slip in between two pre-existing railings, a very poor choice if your trying to make something stronger. Since it isnt for structural support, instead, it must be for suspension.

I think these lexan pieces, must be used as a way to suspend rails (curved or straight?) either above a surface, or away from a wall. the rectangular 'tounge' is bolted to the wall, floor, piece, etc. and the rails extend from it suspended.

And.. why isnt this is the rumour mill like it usually is? Its hard to find here
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

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I doubt reflections have anything to do with it. I don't think the GDC would go through the trouble of making a rendering showing other parts besides what they were trying to show.
That's what I've been thinking about the reflections/refractions. It's like the text in the background of the fish picture from last year - just an unavoidable coincidence that has nothing to do with the real hint.

Although, if you were looking for a context for the part we've been given, looking at the reflections might help, but not very much.
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I doubt reflections have anything to do with it. I don't think the GDC would go through the trouble of making a rendering showing other parts besides what they were trying to show.
Game hint season makes everyone paranoid. The slightest change in a pixel can mean the difference between everyone freaking out about tetras or track balls.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

If it is a track for a ball most balls of this size are not heavy and if you have rules that do not allow us to make physical contact with it it would not need to be strong. If the robot could only be 60 inches tall and the track is above 60 inches than you would not have to worry about making conttact with the track and breaking it. We will have to build this for our use so I would assume that the pipes are trade size pipes. 1/2 & 3/4 emt or pvc. We could also replace the clear with plywood for our use.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

I kind of like the idea of a track going around the field...perhaps where you have to place a ball on the track that leads towards a goal? It goes with all the train stuff that we've been thinking recently.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

I bet the actual use for this piece will be the exact opposite of what we expect it to be. Only 15 days 'til kickoff...
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

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That's what I've been thinking about the reflections/refractions. It's like the text in the background of the fish picture from last year - just an unavoidable coincidence that has nothing to do with the real hint.

Although, if you were looking for a context for the part we've been given, looking at the reflections might help, but not very much.
Agreed. I'm pretty sure you can make the reflection anything, especially if you're rendering an object outside of the main assembly file it's being used in (I could be wrong, though).

That being said, I'm on board with the people who are saying it's a field element. Are there any dimensions? Because that makes a huge difference.

Okay, I'm done thinking about this for now. The people who come up with these clues should be ashamed of themselves for releasing the first one on Christmas Eve. *shakes head in disapproval* Well, we'll know in 15 days. Wonder if they'll bother releasing any clues between now and then...
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

Ypu guys are thinking way to far into this. FIRST is not going to make a field with moving parts it takes to much work to cordinate something like that now this part could be part of an adjustable height shelf or even possibly a field piece for the human players think about it guys, you know better.
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Yeah, last year he said "slippery slope" and that was a definite biggie. Now we know. Does he do that a lot? I've only been around for 2 years, I wouldn't know past 2008.
I was not in FRC at the time, but from reviewing the videos, I believe the background of the kickoff video (the screen behind the people speaking and such) in 2005 was actually one of the tetras. (The element that year)
But no one really noticed it because it was not the focus of the scene. So I am guessing there are little hints written in every year, but we have picked up on them more in 2008 and 09
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I was not in FRC at the time, but from reviewing the videos, I believe the background of the kickoff video (the screen behind the people speaking and such) in 2005 was actually one of the tetras. (The element that year)
But no one really noticed it because it was not the focus of the scene. So I am guessing there are little hints written in every year, but we have picked up on them more in 2008 and 09
Yup, the screen behind the speakers at the 2005 Kickoff had a glass tetrahedron floating in front of clouds.
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Re: [BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

my guess is there gonna be connected together like in the attached image and its going to be used as a rail system for balls. I sized it out and depending on the scale it should be about a 4.5 inch - 5 inch ball that fits inside of it easily.
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