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Re: Curie 2010!

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I don't think turning alliance members against the number 1 and 2 teams is a good idea.
I agree. It's not in the spirit of the game.

I'm simply trying to think outside the box on how to prevent a 1114 and 469 alliance and the best way to do that is to prevent the two from being the number 1 seed. I'd love to see the match up of 1114 vs 469!
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Re: Curie 2010!

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I agree. It's not in the spirit of the game.

I'm simply trying to think outside the box on how to prevent a 1114 and 469 alliance and the best way to do that is to prevent the two from being the number 1 seed. I'd love to see the match up of 1114 vs 469!
Out play them! I'm sure that Curie will hold a ton of surprises.


And to teams 1114 and 469: You guys have some amazing robots and I hope you guys do well on Curie this year!
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Re: Curie 2010!

What an awesome division to be a part of, with so many excellent teams and two of this year's stand-outs in 469 & 1114.
With 10 matches in the qualification schedule, there's an ~40% chance we'll get to play as part of an alliance with one of them - and a 100% chance if we somehow end up as #1 seed

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Re: Curie 2010!

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If I knew you would have 2 hangers with you in some of your matches, the bet would be on! But I'm going to wait until the match schedules come out....if there's a chance I'm going with YOU!
Who needs a match schedule? When you feel the dome tilt towards Curie you better head over there.
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Re: Curie 2010!

some one know how much robots can hang in curie and their statistics?
Team 3339 will be in her rookie year in curie!
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Re: Curie 2010!

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I agree. It's not in the spirit of the game.

I'm simply trying to think outside the box on how to prevent a 1114 and 469 alliance and the best way to do that is to prevent the two from being the number 1 seed. I'd love to see the match up of 1114 vs 469!
The other thing I had thought of in the "strategies to ensure team X doesnt seed #1" is to deliberately take a red card when aligned with them. Definitely not GP, definitely not something I would do, but it would work.
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Re: Curie 2010!

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The other thing I had thought of in the "strategies to ensure team X doesnt seed #1" is to deliberately take a red card when aligned with them. Definitely not GP, definitely not something I would do, but it would work.
A red card during qualifications doesn't affect your partners in that match. You just don't receive any qualifying points from it regardless of outcome while your partners receive whatever points are earned in that particular match.
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Re: Curie 2010!

I was fairly certain taking a red card affects the whole alliance.

EDIT: I stand corrected, <T11> and <T12>

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Re: Curie 2010!

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I was fairly certain taking a red card affects the whole alliance.
Only in the eliminations, not in the qualifications. See 9.3.6, <T11>, and <T12>. I'm glad that FIRST doesn't allow you to intentionally harm your alliance partner in this way.
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Re: Curie 2010!

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The other thing I had thought of in the "strategies to ensure team X doesnt seed #1" is to deliberately take a red card when aligned with them. Definitely not GP, definitely not something I would do, but it would work.
This wouldn't work in Qualifications, you'd only hurt yourself.

Though, if you wanted to you could incur a substantial amount of penalties to make sure your alliances loses. Once again, it's not GP, but it'll work.
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Re: Curie 2010!

Another interesting strategy might be to ALWAYS play 6v0 against them. Minimize their coopertition points.

We did this in Waterloo, and set what may well be a record 6v0 match at 24-0.
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Re: Curie 2010!

Or you could play the game instead of gaming the game.

469 and 1114 ARE beatable. Rather than figuring out how to use the system against them why not just out play them?
Plus, if I see any of these "strategies" used I will just root for 1114/469 harder.
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Re: Curie 2010!

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Or you could play the game instead of gaming the game.

469 and 1114 ARE beatable. Rather than figuring out how to use the system against them why not just out play them?
Plus, if I see any of these "strategies" used I will just root for 1114/469 harder.
I'm going to respectfully submit here that playing 6v0 IS playing the game.
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I'm going to respectfully submit here that playing 6v0 IS playing the game.
And I will respectfully disagree.
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Re: Curie 2010!

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I'm going to respectfully submit here that playing 6v0 IS playing the game.
I don't think he meant that point in particular.

6v0 doesn't make you jump ahead of them in QP, it boosts you both at the same time. If you're trying to form a well constructed lower seed alliance, then go for it.
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