Brainstorm - The Blue Alliance v4

[kenavt]

I was surfing TBA today, looking up information about teams that I didn't see this year, when I realized something. In the little bracket showing the elimination rounds at each event (which, I love, by the way), the teams are always randomly organized. I would really like it if perhaps the Captain was on top, then the first pick and the second, because there were times where I would say to myself, "Oh! Look, this team made it to the Curie finals!". (for example) But I wouldn't know if they were the Captain or the third pick.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by kenavt

I was surfing TBA today, looking up information about teams that I didn't see this year, when I realized something. In the little bracket showing the elimination rounds at each event (which, I love, by the way), the teams are always randomly organized. I would really like it if perhaps the Captain was on top, then the first pick and the second, because there were times where I would say to myself, "Oh! Look, this team made it to the Curie finals!". (for example) But I wouldn't know if they were the Captain or the third pick.

I always thought the exact same thing, that would be so much better for scouting and for people just wanting to know results

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by dodar

I always thought the exact same thing, that would be so much better for scouting and for people just wanting to know results

The issue is that currently there is no place to scrape that data from.

[dodar]

Actually there is, the FIRST website and the links to the info for each competition has the final rankings before allaince selection and you can see the final alliance selections and go from there

[EricH]

That works for the captain. Maybe it works for the first pick, if the first pick is also a top-8 team or pretty close. But if neither the first nor the second pick is near the top, there is no way to tell, as it's quite possible that #50 out of 50 is taken before #25 and they're on the same alliance.

[dodar]

Well that is true, never thought of that. You could get team input from teams or people there or from teams or people who watched the webcast

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by dodar

Well that is true, never thought of that. You could get team input from teams or people there or from teams or people who watched the webcast

The problem with this is that it isn't 100% automated and would add additional workload. Now, what could be done is the captains are bolded (you can always find these out) and the other two are just left normal. You can also determine about the proper ordering slightly higher than 50% of the time because of the likelihood of picking within the top 8. However, this is not accurate enough for my liking.*


*This is all for places outside of Michigan where the data is actually public due to our scoring system.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

The problem with this is that it isn't 100% automated and would add additional workload. Now, what could be done is the captains are bolded (you can always find these out) and the other two are just left normal. You can also determine about the proper ordering slightly higher than 50% of the time because of the likelihood of picking within the top 8. However, this is not accurate enough for my liking.*

Just scrape from 1114's database. They do the work anyway, might as well use it.

[Taylor]

Any idea when thebluealliance.net will be back up? I'm sure there are teams other than ours who would love to show videos at our callout meetings, as well as research teams for upcoming offseason events.
TBA is a phenomenal resource, and I miss it!

[Greg Marra]

Originally Posted by Taylor

Any idea when thebluealliance.net will be back up? I'm sure there are teams other than ours who would love to show videos at our callout meetings, as well as research teams for upcoming offseason events.
TBA is a phenomenal resource, and I miss it!

Our server went down, and has since been rebooted and functioning again.

[OverdriveAdge]

Would it be possible to add FTC and maybe even FLL teams to the database?

[MarkoRamius1086]

That and off-season events from this past year. From what I can tell IRI has been in the books for awhile, but not this past year.

$0.02

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by OverdriveAdge

Would it be possible to add FTC and maybe even FLL teams to the database?

FTC seems reasonable, but FLL teams change every year which would make the upkeep harder.

[MarkoRamius1086]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

FTC seems reasonable, but FLL teams change every year which would make the upkeep harder.

Very good point, considering theres upward of 17,000 FLL teams in the world, and they re-register every year. I can only name two or three teams in Virginia that have kept their names over a number of years, two out of approximately 500 (VA/DC FLL is the largest FLL Region in the world, with the State Tournament hosting 97 Teams! ). This plus the fact that coaches and members cycle dynamically over the years.

[lineskier]

Team Heatmap in the continental US:

Generated using TBA API and Google Maps.

Unfortunately takes about 5 minutes to load all the lat/long's from google....

I am going to store all of them for my own use, but i think others may find this useful from the API stand point.

also throwing up a crossdomain.xml file so as3 applications can utilize the api.
(right now I'm using a java backend to make calls to the api, I would much rather do this client side)