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MARC 2012 Rule Changes

GaryVoshol

By: GaryVoshol
New: 05-19-2012 10:01 AM
Updated: 05-19-2012 10:01 AM
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Changes for Rebound Rumble

These changes are evolutionary, not revolutionary. The game will essentially be the same, with just a few tweaks.

Thanks to my crew of referees throughout the state who contributed to and critiqued the changes.

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05-19-2012 10:02 AM

GaryVoshol


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I'm looking forward to this event. Good luck to all the teams.



05-19-2012 11:29 AM

Jason Law


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Thanks for all of your hard work Gary! Looking forward to MARC!



05-19-2012 12:15 PM

Ed Law


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I have a question regarding the following.

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[G13]: Basketballs may not be intentionally placed out of bounds. Basketballs that inadvertently exit the side of the Court will be placed back on the Court approximately at the point of exit, at the earliest safe opportunity, by Court staff. Basketballs that inadvertently exit the Court over the Alliance Station Wall will be placed in the Corral.
Violation: Foul
- Rationale: The Robot missed the Basket and shot the Basketball over the wall. It makes sense to give control of the Basketball to their opponents, not put it back on the field in a place where it can be recovered and shot again.
If Red alliance was already holding the maximum number of balls without inbounding and Blue alliance shot 3 balls over the wall, and the new rules put the balls in the Corral, will the Red alliance receive penalties if they don't inbound 3 balls quick enough?



05-19-2012 12:36 PM

stundt1


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I like that most of the rules are the same as competition. Such as alliance selections and Seeding. Though I may not agree with all the regulation competition rules.

Good lock to all competing at MARC.

Will their be a webcast?



05-19-2012 03:16 PM

mjustice66


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A webcast would be nice. Or a FIRST in Michigan archive on their youtube channel.



05-19-2012 03:35 PM

TrevorJ


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Originally Posted by stundt1 View Post
Will their be a webcast?
There has been a webcast every year I have been involved with MARC. I can only assume that it will be the same this year.



05-19-2012 07:20 PM

Clinton Bolinger


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A webcast would be nice. Or a FIRST in Michigan archive on their youtube channel.
If Steve wants us to help archive the matches from MARC, we would be more then happy to help. We might even want to try out some new equipment.

-Clinton-



05-19-2012 07:22 PM

GaryVoshol


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Originally Posted by Ed Law View Post
I have a question regarding the following.



If Red alliance was already holding the maximum number of balls without inbounding and Blue alliance shot 3 balls over the wall, and the new rules put the balls in the Corral, will the Red alliance receive penalties if they don't inbound 3 balls quick enough?
No more than they would be penalized if Blue shot 3 quick baskets. Remember, Blue can't cause Red to commit fouls (except G28). So Red gets a reasonable, but short, time to enter the basketballs back onto the field.



05-20-2012 11:01 AM

J_Miles


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I can appreciate the clarifications and tweaks to the rules, especially the address of rules concerning stingers. The game will be played here much like it was the rest of the season, and considering the very watchable nature of the game all season long, I'm looking forward to attending MARC again, this year!



05-20-2012 01:18 PM

Debbie


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So will there be no additional weight allowed?

Gary . thanks for your hard work on these.



05-21-2012 08:30 AM

Steve Ketron


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So will there be no additional weight allowed?

Gary . thanks for your hard work on these.
Looking into this right now. It would be a good excuse to use my brand new scale. (THINK, THINK, THINK) Get back to you shortly on this.



05-21-2012 08:36 AM

Steve Ketron


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If Steve wants us to help archive the matches from MARC, we would be more then happy to help. We might even want to try out some new equipment.

-Clinton-
The event will be webcast just like the past few years. Clinton, if you want to come and try-out some new equipment and archive the matches, then that would be great and I am up for that.



05-21-2012 08:45 AM

Taylor


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Basketballs that inadvertently exit the Court over the Alliance Station Wall will be placed in the Corral.
Excellent. Well played.
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[G25]: Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge.
Violation: Technical-Foul for consequential contact or for any contact in the final 30 seconds; Foul for inconsequential contact prior to the final 30 seconds
You realize this invites teams to 'steal' basketballs from the opposing alliance bridges, right? Or would that be considered "consequential contact"?



05-21-2012 06:00 PM

GaryVoshol


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You realize this invites teams to 'steal' basketballs from the opposing alliance bridges, right? Or would that be considered "consequential contact"?
Of course it's consequential. That's why we left it in.

"Just because I look dumb doesn't mean I'm not." Oh wait, that didn't come out quite right ...



05-22-2012 07:53 AM

Steve Ketron


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So will there be no additional weight allowed?

Gary . thanks for your hard work on these.
All teams are allowed to have up to an additional 5 pounds on their robot. Typical off-season events don't have inspections or weight scales to know what teams have done in the off-season. So this of course is on an honesty basis.

However because I hosed my team with my really bad weight calculations this past year (20 lbs overweight), my team has purchased a floor scale. If a robots weight comes into question, then I reserve the right to have you put your robot on my beautiful new scale.



06-22-2012 11:32 PM

R.C.


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Will there be a webcast this year?

Thanks,

-RC



06-22-2012 11:35 PM

Gregor


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Originally Posted by R.C. View Post
Will there be a webcast this year?

Thanks,

-RC
Here is every link you should need, including the webcast

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=84



06-22-2012 11:59 PM

R.C.


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Here is every link you should need, including the webcast

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=84
Sweet!

I totally missed that post!

-RC



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