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222 TIGERTRONS TEASER

team222badbrad

By: team222badbrad
New: 01-24-2005 04:16 PM
Updated: 01-24-2005 04:16 PM
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222 TIGERTRONS TEASER

I am gonna let you folks write the description of this...

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01-24-2005 04:41 PM

Max Lobovsky


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Of course we are supposed to think 5 speed based on your previous design, but I think there maybe a problem with that. 5 speed with pneumatics would require at least three cylinders per shifter which sounds like a bad idea. It's possible they are using a servo instead.



01-24-2005 04:55 PM

abeD


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Hmmm...5 speeds or maybe 3 speeds with neutral positions??



01-24-2005 05:05 PM

Stephen Kowski


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky
Of course we are supposed to think 5 speed based on your previous design, but I think there maybe a problem with that. 5 speed with pneumatics would require at least three cylinders per shifter which sounds like a bad idea. It's possible they are using a servo instead.
not neccessarily...the way they have it set up it it would/would have been feasible to use incremental control on their pnuematics....but either way i think this is either a joke, or not a useful component due to the game.....



01-24-2005 05:36 PM

MikeDubreuil


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It's also possible that the gearbox isn't shifted with pneumatics. It could be done with a threaded lead screw and a motor. Integrate a revolution sensor and it would work well.



01-24-2005 06:11 PM

henryBsick


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky
Of course we are supposed to think 5 speed based on your previous design, but I think there maybe a problem with that. 5 speed with pneumatics would require at least three cylinders per shifter which sounds like a bad idea. It's possible they are using a servo instead.
After tinkering around with our 3 speeds from last year, we realized that it took almost no effort at all to move the shifting rod in and out to engage the gears by way of the balls.



01-24-2005 06:24 PM

Tom Bottiglieri


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I expect the same 3 general speeds as last year, with an added high torque super low speed, and a "crazy kill anything in its path" high speed.



01-24-2005 07:00 PM

tkwetzel


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I think we will see 3 speeds from them again this year. I think 5 is a bit ambitious and very unnecessary. But if you do have a strong 5-speed in competition, good job and kudos to you.



01-24-2005 07:07 PM

Max Lobovsky


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Originally Posted by Henry_222
After tinkering around with our 3 speeds from last year, we realized that it took almost no effort at all to move the shifting rod in and out to engage the gears by way of the balls.
Servo it is.



01-25-2005 12:04 AM

russell


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I would think that three speeds should be more than sufficient this year. High speed for sprinting, medium for meneuvering, and low speed for pushing other bots around. Then again our team is about 300 years away from every making any kind of gearbox, or even modifying the stuff we have to even get two speeds.



01-25-2005 11:56 AM

team222badbrad


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Anyone every shift a manual quad or motorcycle?

Besides those electronic ones...



01-26-2005 08:30 AM

camtunkpa


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Well everyone's been sorta correct....our transmission does have something to do the numbers 3 & 5. As far as that goes you're all gonna hafta wait and see exactly what it is. Brad, good post about the quad/motorcycle shifter....



01-26-2005 11:10 AM

team222badbrad


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Hmmm I can't remember the last time I subtracted...



01-26-2005 12:32 PM

petek


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I guess that no one reads white papers around here!

BTW, I think this is one really neat solution - my compliments!



01-26-2005 01:29 PM

BoyWithCape195


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Originally Posted by petek
I guess that no one reads white papers around here!

BTW, I think this is one really neat solution - my compliments!

If you look at it more carefully, that is their 2004 transmission with 3 ball bearing "slots", but in the picture above, there are 5 of these "slots"



01-26-2005 02:28 PM

petek


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Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
If you look at it more carefully, that is their 2004 transmission with 3 ball bearing "slots", but in the picture above, there are 5 of these "slots"
And it also shows how a small pushrod is indexed through to sequentially engage the balls.



02-22-2005 07:39 PM

team222badbrad


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Looks like we fooled you all!

This year we only have a two speed shift on the fly just like last years except without the third speed.



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