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Sean Raia
18-01-2012, 15:33
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5364/photojj.jpg

SenorZ
18-01-2012, 15:38
Team update #4: alliances will receive 100 points for stacking robots red-blue-red-blue on the coopertition bridge.

farmersvilleRob
18-01-2012, 15:44
Step #1 turn on magnet
Step #2 Connect Magnet to bridge
Step #3 Magnet to random robot passerby and put him on your head
Step #4 Magnet Kitteh bot on top of Steampipe bot
Step #5 ?????
Step #6 PROFIT

Gdeaver
18-01-2012, 16:30
No, The magnetic approach will not work for many reasons. However, what your looking for is a tractor beam like on star trek. Good old Mcmaster carr has one in stock that should fit in the FRC application and budget. It is part number 2643K1. Look into it.

Sean Raia
18-01-2012, 16:42
No, The magnetic approach will not work for many reasons. However, what your looking for is a tractor beam like on star trek. Good old Mcmaster carr has one in stock that should fit in the FRC application and budget. It is part number 2643K1. Look into it.

Interesting idea. Il bring this up at tonights meating so we can mull it over. Thanks!

Tristan Lall
18-01-2012, 16:42
Good old Mcmaster carr has one in stock that should fit in the FRC application and budget. It is part number 2643K1.That's clearly a Dalek end effector, not a tractor beam. These (http://www.quinlansequipment.com/equipment.php?comid=130&type=Plow) are tractor beams. (Some are auto-resetting, heavy duty ones!)

372 lives on
18-01-2012, 18:12
No, The magnetic approach will not work for many reasons. However, what your looking for is a tractor beam like on star trek. Good old Mcmaster carr has one in stock that should fit in the FRC application and budget. It is part number 2643K1. Look into it.

wow cool they are only $7.35 :D

looking at the picture and description I cant see how it works though...
Do you think this device will not break any rules?

http://images2.mcmaster.com/Contents/gfx/small/2643kp1s.png?ver=18523693

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Another Idea I came up with is for a weightless way for making the extra energy you need to power those throwers. (yeah yeah yeah only the battery can store energy but It said nothing about energy production)

you may have heard of it before its the Buttered cat paradox

This idea is very light weight and effective.
It is based on the follow two theories:
Cats always land on their feet/Buttered toast always lands buttered side down.

we just need to tie some toast onto the back of a cat and stick on the robot while harvesting the rotational energy. here is some illistrations
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Buttered_cat.png

and remember guys use real butter not margarine!

karomata
18-01-2012, 18:58
Can you imagine the amount of power needed to do that if it was an electro magnet!?!?! Its a good idea if it was a bit more realistic.

372 lives on
18-01-2012, 19:03
Can you imagine the amount of power needed to do that if it was an electro magnet!?!?! Its a good idea if it was a bit more realistic.

read the whole thread I came up to a solution for the energy problem did you not see it !?

BrendanB
18-01-2012, 19:14
Too complicated and unreasonable!

I'd recommend you use The Force instead!

JosephC
18-01-2012, 19:20
How do you suppose to get the robots to balance on top of you once you get them up there?

And wouldn't 298 lbs of robot crush you measly 149 lbs?

Sean Raia
18-01-2012, 22:13
How do you suppose to get the robots to balance on top of you once you get them up there?

And wouldn't 298 lbs of robot crush you measly 149 lbs?

Mill the chassis out of a solid block of Aluminum, to retain maximum strength.

farmersvilleRob
18-01-2012, 22:20
****** magnets. How do they work?

dtengineering
18-01-2012, 22:49
This is a great idea, although I'd suggest using an extremely rare earth aluminum magnet.

Jason

372 lives on
18-01-2012, 23:24
Too complicated and unreasonable!

I'd recommend you use The Force instead!

I don't want the force if i can't use force lightning, violates r36:mad:

mbram
19-01-2012, 18:33
Team update #4: alliances will receive 100 points for stacking robots red-blue-red-blue on the coopertition bridge.


Is this a legit team update? O.o

onecoolc
19-01-2012, 18:44
Is this a legit team update? O.o

No.

Edit:
All the official team updates can be seen here: http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/TeamUpdates/0

mayde
19-01-2012, 21:28
100 points would be a brutal bonus if that was a real thing, though.

missledojer217
19-01-2012, 21:50
guys this is not in the updates I have looked It is not there! If so please prove me wrong

Sean Raia
19-01-2012, 22:10
Our arm mechanism will change the way this game is played!

372 lives on
19-01-2012, 22:28
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

I prototyped this today with two old robots and an electro magnet. Unfortinatly we all forgot something very important... Robots are made out of aluminium And aluminium is not magnetic so it doesn't work :(.

Unless you gt everyone to make steel robots, nah no one is that dumb *cough* 3662*cough*.

Andrew Lawrence
19-01-2012, 22:32
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

I prototyped this today with two old robots and an electro magnet. Unfortinatly we all forgot something very important... Robots are made out of aluminium And aluminium is not magnetic so it doesn't work :(.

Unless you gt everyone to make steel robots, nah no one is that dumb *cough* 3662*cough*.

Luckily for you, if you aim just right, you can hit your electronics board, and it's sure to work with that! I mean, come on, whose c-RIO doesn't like a good old electro-magnet to the motherboard?! :p

372 lives on
19-01-2012, 22:38
Our arm mechanism will change the way this game is played!

Luckily for you, if you aim just right, you can hit your electronics board, and it's sure to work with that! I mean, come on, whose c-RIO doesn't like a good old electro-magnet to the motherboard?! :p


That is ridiculous we would be violating r08, G26 and G27... Iwas trying to find realistic applications for this device withOUT breaking rules...


Even if it doesnt do damage I will be impressed if anyone is able to mount there crio in a way that it can suPport the whole robot.

Vikingtech2054
20-01-2012, 10:52
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5364/photojj.jpg
Sorry to burst your bubble, the bridge is made out of aluminum, which is not magnetic and most robots are made out of aluminum and it will not be able to be pulled toward magnets.