Mentors on the team

[nileshp87]

Our team was recently watching a video of the build season video here: redacted
And as well as the majority of the videos that we have seen from their team as well as other teams.

Why do the mentors do everything for the students? Seriously, our team has three mentors and about 25 students. Our mentors stress students doing EVERYTHING. Our mentors have never written a line of code, CADed a design, come up with any major designs or connected any wires. They do pretty much what our captains choose to do.

I don't understand the logic behind groups of mentors trying to relive some high school fantasy of building robots. Every team that we saw last year in the pits that was doing fairly well had more mentors than students, and the students were never doing anything but driving the robot.

The whole system is completely ridiculous, mentors should be there to guide not to build. If you think you are some cool old guys because you own a bunch of high school kids, get a grip and go start your own robotics organization.

[Tom Line]

I have reported this post. It is disrespectful, sarcastic, and in very poor taste.

If you want to discuss the division of work between mentors and students, there are literally dozens of threads with thousands of posts on the topic. You merely needed to search to find them.

[Akash Rastogi]

Wow what an amazing feat that in 32 seconds you fully understood the inner functioning of a team.

Never call out a team out here in public, all you do is make yourself look extremely ignorant and jealous.

[propionate]

I'm 90% sure that the person doing the drilling in that video you linked is a student

[Lil' Lavery]

Wow what an amazing feat that in 32 seconds you fully understood the inner functioning of a team.

Never call out a team out here in public, all you do is make yourself look extremely ignorant and jealous.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. And that's 32 seconds of video at 30 frames per second, so it's 960 pictures. So that's like 960,000 words, or War and Peace one and three-quarter times, describing the team. :p

[EricH]

And deleting the link isn't going to shield you very much.

I'd go farther, but I'm a little too ticked right now. I might give a longer response after some cool-down time. Assuming that someone doesn't do the smart thing and delete or lock the thread in the meantime. This one's pretty close to flaming as it is.

[nileshp87]

Maybe you should let an actual student reply. I redacted the team name. I did not mean it to be offensive. We will never be jealous of teams who have mentors making their robot for them.

[scottydoh]

Why doesn't a mod just lock it up right now? I see this going now where good. No sense feeding the troll.

[nileshp87]

This thread is in the spirit of FIRST students making robots. Locking the thread because I state a problem that clearly exists because people don't want to admit it or ignore it want to lock the thread.

[Cory]

I am locking this thread. Will leave it in place so that nileshp87 isn't shielded from the consequences of his actions on the internet.