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TeamUpNext3528
12-02-2012, 18:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtsRoJYm_vM
Here is our robot for 2012. Check it out! If you have any questions we would love to answer them!
WEBSITE
www.teamupnext.com
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KevinGoneNuts
12-02-2012, 18:34
Very cool Robot!
I never would have thought to use a scissor lift like that. nice job 3528
its da PAT!!!
12-02-2012, 18:40
I really like your design. Its going to be one of those "one of a kind" bots this year. This is just me I would be worried about someone hitting you while scoring. It looks promising!
Andrew Lawrence
12-02-2012, 18:42
Love the robot! Very accurate, too! We have a similar scoring strategy, but with a shooter. I can't wait to see it in competition! What regional(s) will you be competing at?
TeamUpNext3528
12-02-2012, 18:48
I really like your design. Its going to be one of those "one of a kind" bots this year. This is just me I would be worried about someone hitting you while scoring. It looks promising!
Thanks! I appreciate it! Yeah thats what we were worried about too. The scissor lift is very strong actually. When its up it doesn't shake much at all when its hit, is very sturdy.
TeamUpNext3528
12-02-2012, 18:49
Love the robot! Very accurate, too! We have a similar scoring strategy, but with a shooter. I can't wait to see it in competition! What regional(s) will you be competing at?
Thanks! :) :) We will be competing in the Kansas City Regional and the Oklahoma Regional.
Andrew Lawrence
12-02-2012, 18:51
Thanks! :) :) We will be competing in the Kansas City Regional and the Oklahoma Regional.
Thanks! I'll be sure to watch the webcasts! Good luck!
372 lives on
12-02-2012, 19:33
2-3 second to lift :/ this is plenty of time for a defense bot to push you off alignment.
make it faster !@!!!!!!
Andrew Lawrence
12-02-2012, 19:34
2-3 second to lift :/ this is plenty of time for a defense bot to push you off alignment.
make it faster !@!!!!!!
Depends on the defender and the drivetrain.
How well/fast do you collect balls on a field? How well do you maneuver?
Si Senor!
Have you tested your bot with other bots to see if you can be pushed sideways by them? If not, it would be SO COOL if you had some type of outriggers or something to give you more traction....
oh man that would be so cool
We were originally thinking about a robot like yours that had the feeder angled up towards the top hoop and we would have rollers shooting the ballls on the loader to the top hoop.
TeamUpNext3528
12-02-2012, 22:39
Depends on the defender and the drivetrain.
How well/fast do you collect balls on a field? How well do you maneuver?
We collect balls pretty fast. Its not to slow but not to fast, about medium. We had a little trouble figuring out how to get it running better with what motors we had. However, thats not our teams main goal (to score hoops). Our main goal probably like everyone else is to get on the bridge.
TeamUpNext3528
12-02-2012, 22:40
Si Senor!
Have you tested your bot with other bots to see if you can be pushed sideways by them? If not, it would be SO COOL if you had some type of outriggers or something to give you more traction....
oh man that would be so cool
No we have not yet, we haven't gotten a chance too. They are mecum wheels so it doesn't have the best traction.
Oddly enough when I saw the action of your bot I remembered the rube goldberg-ness of Robotnauts 118 last year. I think that in the years to come, Up Next is literally going to be the next 469 because of how they have, two years running so far, come up with such brilliant and unique ideas for robots.
This is a very well executed design.
ttldomination
13-02-2012, 01:06
Ew, a scissor lift.
Cool, one that actually works.
Legit, this thing looks solid. I would take care to really strengthen that thing up. Nothing shows the fragile nature of scissor lifts like taking a head on collision with a 120 lb robot.
- Sunny G.
Austin2046
13-02-2012, 01:15
I really believe it depends on if the dumper is quick and accurate. If a shooter and a dumper take the same number of shots and the shooter's going for top hoop and the dumper's going for middle... the shooter just has to make 2/3 shots or better to outscore the dumper (assuming the dumper is 100% accurate).
Lets say a really good shooter is close to 100% accurate as well, well then the dumper has to outpace the shooter and get 3 baskets per the shooter's 2 to stay even with them.
It's a pretty interesting situation to me. Esspecially if alliances use ball management strategies or passing/feeding. Two robots feeding balls to an accurate 3 pt shooter or 3 robots gathering and taking as many shots or dumping as much as each can...
I really liked your team's defense strategy last year, but it's great to see 3528 transition to a legit scorer in its second season.
Keyreaper
13-02-2012, 16:57
My! It's good to see team 3528, UPNEXT back and a bigger threat than ever! :D. Best of luck to you guys from Team 1710! And a personal gesture from me ;). I'm sure you guys are well on your way training with drivers and will have the routine down to 10 seconds flat! :D Hope to see you guys again this year! Good luck!
TeamUpNext3528
13-02-2012, 23:33
Ew, a scissor lift.
Cool, one that actually works.
Legit, this thing looks solid. I would take care to really strengthen that thing up. Nothing shows the fragile nature of scissor lifts like taking a head on collision with a 120 lb robot.
- Sunny G.
The scissor lift is pretty strong. It doesn't wobble much when it get hit hard, so we are happy with it. Its very accurate and durable.
Andrew Lawrence
13-02-2012, 23:36
The scissor lift is pretty strong. It doesn't wobble much when it get hit hard, so we are happy with it. Its very accurate and durable.
Make sure that your scissor lift is too strong, and what's on top is never too heavy. 256 had a scissor lift a few years back. It was the heaviest part of our robot, and our electronics were right underneath it. We got hit pretty hard, and our scissor lift broke, the part it lifted fell, and I think you can figure out the rest. :|
TeamUpNext3528
13-02-2012, 23:41
My! It's good to see team 3528, UPNEXT back and a bigger threat than ever! :D. Best of luck to you guys from Team 1710! And a personal gesture from me ;). I'm sure you guys are well on your way training with drivers and will have the routine down to 10 seconds flat! :D Hope to see you guys again this year! Good luck!
Thanks so much! We can't wait to see all our friends especially 1710! ;) We are so excited to play again and are so pumped to compete. What are you guys doing with your robot?? :yikes:
Also, thanks frasnow!
TeamUpNext3528
13-02-2012, 23:43
Make sure that your scissor lift is too strong, and what's on top is never too heavy. 256 had a scissor lift a few years back. It was the heaviest part of our robot, and our electronics were right underneath it. We got hit pretty hard, and our scissor lift broke, the part it lifted fell, and I think you can figure out the rest. :|
Oh yeah its definably not to light. We have made sure that is not to heavy because the worm gear needs help lifting it up. We are actually 0.8 lb over, so we are going to cut some of the dumper down.
The only thing I worry about is you guys getting pushed around a lot while trying to score with those mechanums. Speaking from personal experience, (68 had mechanums last year) I can tell you that any robot with 6/8 wheel drive is going to shove you all over the place.
Besides that the robot is great! We'd never go with a scissor lift as they have to be made perfectly, but it looks like you guys knocked it out of the ball park.
TeamUpNext3528
13-02-2012, 23:57
The only thing I worry about is you guys getting pushed around a lot while trying to score with those mechanums. Speaking from personal experience, (68 had mechanums last year) I can tell you that any robot with 6/8 wheel drive is going to shove you all over the place.
Besides that the robot is great! We'd never go with a scissor lift as they have to be made perfectly, but it looks like you guys knocked it out of the ball park.
Thats very true, mechanism are not the best for traction. We did want a robot that could move around quick and get balls fast, so it depends what the other "defender" robots have for a drive train.
Thanks so much! This is our teams second year and our first time doing a scissor lift. Good luck to you all! :) :) :D :D
Thats very true, mechanism are not the best for traction. We did want a robot that could move around quick and get balls fast, so it depends what the other "defender" robots have for a drive train.
Thanks so much! This is our teams second year and our first time doing a scissor lift. Good luck to you all! :) :) :D :D
Emphasis mine. Sorry to be a grammar hound, but I do believe it's Mecanum.
(a bit OCD sorry)
Emphasis mine. Sorry to be a grammar hound, but I do believe it's Mechanum.
(a bit OCD sorry)
Sorry to pull the same, but it's spelled "Mecanum." :]
Sorry to pull the same, but it's spelled "Mecanum." :]
Autocorrect strikes again.
Autocorrect strikes again.
It happens to the best of us.
Back to a more on-topic post: Team 2084 is using Mecanums again this year, but we won't be able to be pushed around very much (at least not like the one in this video).
I'm guessing you have drop down wheels, or you have a 8 wheel mechanum crab drive.
Andrew Lawrence
14-02-2012, 00:25
I'm guessing you have drop down wheels, or you have a 8 wheel mechanum crab drive.
Or octocanum. Can you do an 8 wheel mecanum drive?
I'm guessing you have drop down wheels, or you have a 8 wheel mechanum crab drive.
Nope, we only have four wheels and all are Mecanum.
Or octocanum. Can you do an 8 wheel mecanum drive?
Isn't octocanum just drop-down Mecanums?
Or octocanum. Can you do an 8 wheel mecanum drive?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-89056.html
Nope, we only have four wheels and all are Mecanum.
If you don't mind me asking (cuz I'm totally gonna steal your drive train idea with 1 week to go), why won't you be pushed around?
If you don't mind me asking (cuz I'm totally gonna steal your drive train idea with 1 week to go), why won't you be pushed around?
Four of these (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0917.htm). :cool:
Four of these (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0917.htm). :cool:
Yeah, that would do it.:ahh:
Yeah, that would do it.:ahh:
Hey, 68's legs are pretty amazing, too!
Andrew Lawrence
14-02-2012, 00:48
Four of these (http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0917.htm). :cool:
Why not try 4 of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2167 :cool:
Hey, 68's legs are pretty amazing, too!
Sigh, Determan...
Why not try 4 of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2167 :cool:
Can you use things from a 3D printer on a FRC bot?
Andrew Lawrence
14-02-2012, 00:56
Sigh, Determan...
Can you use things from a 3D printer on a FRC bot?
Yup! :D
Can you use things from a 3D printer on a FRC bot?
I just checked the robot rules; I see nothing against them.
EDIT: Andrew beat me to it :s
Yup! :D
Does it fit within the $80 dollar part limit?
(I have a feeling that's for OCCRA not FIRST)
Andrew Lawrence
14-02-2012, 01:05
Does it fit within the $80 dollar part limit?
(I have a feeling that's for OCCRA not FIRST)
I don't think so. And I thought you couldn't spend more than $400 for any one item. The wheels are for use in many applications, and they are FIRST legal. I've checked. :) IDK, but I think those are smaller than 254's 3.5" wheels. ;)
I don't think so. And I thought you couldn't spend more than $400 for any one item. The wheels are for use in many applications, and they are FIRST legal. I've checked. :) IDK, but I think those are smaller than 254's 3.5" wheels. ;)
The $80 is from another competition that we competed in at the end of 2011.
Keyreaper
14-02-2012, 17:28
Thanks so much! We can't wait to see all our friends especially 1710! ;) We are so excited to play again and are so pumped to compete. What are you guys doing with your robot?? :yikes:
Also, thanks frasnow!
Unfortunately our team switches which regional we go to every year, this year's being up in Chicago. So we won't be competing with you guys :(. However I do believe we are volunteering up at KC. So we will be able to chat and see how its going :D. Our bot is much like the other shooters that have shown up on CD so nothing special. It will really come down to practice of the drivers and reliability of the robot. So we'll see how it works out. Can't wait to see ya guys ;D.
Suitster
17-05-2012, 22:33
gravedig post.:
I believe that the durability of the scissor lift is not in question, after that hit they took during CMP:yikes:
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