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Hi there,
Team 907 is a bit behind and is looking into drastic measures to complete our robot. We were wondering, is this legal?
-Gregor
Andrew Lawrence
22-02-2012, 00:32
If the person weighs less than 120 pounds, than maybe. :)
In all seriousness, I'd say no. The point is to stop building at Midnight, not just to have it bagged and tagged.
Jon Stratis
22-02-2012, 00:38
You know, back before Bag and Tag we tried to ship a student in the crate along with the robot... We even almost made it under the weight limit! It definitely helped that she could stand up inside the crate with room to spare.
MathMaven
22-02-2012, 00:38
5.2. Stop Build Day
All teams must cease work on their robot on or before Stop Build Day [emphasis mine]. Any team that fails to comply may jeopardize their participation in the rest of the FRC season.
I don't think it can be any clearer.::rtm::
Wayne TenBrink
22-02-2012, 00:44
Isn't that a violation of the warning on the plastic bag - the one that says it isn't a toy and should be kept away from children??
I don't think there is a limit on the bagged content regarding weight or biology that is imposed by FIRST. The bags are big, but putting a machine shop inside would be a literal stretch. Then there's the support of your contained crew. NASA may have some hints about that. They would certainly be interested in a device that enables long-term bag habitation, even if it was not part of an actual FIRST robot. Feeding and breathing through small tubes that could pass through the bag's "neck" gather under the seal ziptie would also be a large turn off. Dr. Flush (of Hamilton Sunstrand) would also have some commentary about the most frequent question concerning space station life.
Cute idea for a picture though. I'm already trying to think of a caption for it in case it makes it to a contest. :D
Jared Russell
22-02-2012, 00:46
Air holes are strictly forbidden.
dr. fragger
22-02-2012, 00:47
I registered just to say this:
@MathMaven: If you honestly think that stuffing a student into a bag is reasonable and our best way forward, then you'd better get your head checked. Sorry, I guess some people just don't get jokes.
In any event, while there are teams out there who do not observe the 'wrenches down' rule, our 'bot is bagged, tagged, and ready to go. Best of luck to everyone this year! I'm looking forward to the competitions.
dr. fragger
22-02-2012, 00:57
Cute idea for a picture though. I'm already trying to think of a caption for it in case it makes it to a contest. :D
I was thinking 'We're outta time! I'm going in... see you guys at GTR!'
:D
TiggerGTO
22-02-2012, 07:30
We discussed putting all the students in the bag and keeping the robot out. Work would be stopped. Same effect, right?
AquaMorph
22-02-2012, 10:09
Air holes are strictly forbidden.
I think an oxygen tank would fix that problem
We tried something similar. We are using KOP fans to keep the student ventilated. Nice to finally to find something to do with them. The problem is we forgot to put food in with him. Is it legal to unseal the bag to put food in? Maybe on humanitarian grounds?
We tried something similar. We are using KOP fans to keep the student ventilated. Nice to finally to find something to do with them. The problem is we forgot to put food in with him. Is it legal to unseal the bag to put food in? Maybe on humanitarian grounds?
Stop the fans for a bit and squeeze some PBJ thru the blades. Be careful starting the fans again.
Jon Stratis
22-02-2012, 11:43
Stop the fans for a bit and squeeze some PBJ thru the blades. Be careful starting the fans again.
Sounds messy. Go with an all-liquid diet, as though they had just had their wisdom teeth pulled - you can run a straw through the fans when they're off.
nitneylion452
22-02-2012, 12:02
Am I the only one who thought of what that bag will look and smell like after however long it is until your competition?:ahh:
EDIT: Think about it. There are some things nobody could go without doing...
Never mind. His mom just ripped the bag open. Something about missing too much school to work on the @#$@#@$!$#@$ robot. Learned some new words today. Plus she suggested something I don't think is physically possible to do with a robot. Anyway is duct tape legal to seal the bag back up?
Jon Stratis
22-02-2012, 12:11
Never mind. His mom just ripped the bag open. Something about missing too much school to work on the @#$@#@$!$#@$ robot. Learned some new words today. Plus she suggested something I don't think is physically possible to do with a robot. Anyway is duct tape legal to seal the bag back up?
I think you need to stick a second student in there so the bag can be sealed up from the inside. Otherwise the inspectors might think you were trying to cheat!
crowder15
22-02-2012, 12:14
omg i cant believe this was actually posted this ! good times !
crowder15
22-02-2012, 12:16
lol last night was awesome!!! cant wait to do it again next year
Natatatalies
22-02-2012, 16:19
Am I the only one who thought of what that bag will look and smell like after however long it is until your competition?:ahh:
EDIT: Think about it. There are some things nobody could go without doing...
Haha, yeah, we took that into consideration. But don't worry our buddy there is safe and sound.
y did i put you guys up to this , it's funny but people took it a bit to far lol
MAldridge
22-02-2012, 22:00
when traveling to a competition, it is important to take with you your bagged robot, driver, assorted tools, and camera
akcender
23-02-2012, 20:59
I think a few people took this a bit too seriously
Natatatalies
24-02-2012, 17:20
I think a few people took this a bit too seriously
Honestly! :yikes:
Sean Raia
24-02-2012, 17:28
I think a few people took this a bit too seriously
Welcome to Chief Delphi.
It's threads like these that keep the atmosphere of this bulletin upbeat, IMO.
Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.
Grim Tuesday
24-02-2012, 19:12
Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.
This is completely 100% serious.
We at the CD site have no sense of humor that we are aware of. May we come in?
Bonus if you get the reference.
Natatatalies
24-02-2012, 21:18
This is completely 100% serious.
Really? Because when we posted this we were 100% joking. We just wanted to lighten up the most stressful day of the season.
Really? Because when we posted this we were 100% joking. We just wanted to lighten up the most stressful day of the season.
Sarcasm is one of the hardest things to convey by text. I saw it, but it's entirely possible to take that post at face value.
vraimondi94
24-02-2012, 21:36
lol totally just make sure you have a straw so that you could breath.
Thad House
24-02-2012, 21:40
<sarcasm>everyone should just put sarcasm hash tags around their posts...</sarcasm>
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh N.
Please tell me this is joke. Please? Haha.
This is completely 100% serious.
Sarcasm is one of the hardest things to convey by text. I saw it, but it's entirely possible to take that post at face value.
I think Grim Tuesday was being sarcastic when he said it was serious (I could easily be wrong though). This thread is getting very confusing...
Rogue Leader
24-02-2012, 22:08
I can't tell if I feel bad for the robot, the kid, or both. XD
*ahem* Anyways, that's not legal. Putting a kid in a bag with a robot is not allowed by the FRC Manual, or by law.
Grim Tuesday
24-02-2012, 23:33
I think Grim Tuesday was being sarcastic when he said it was serious (I could easily be wrong though). This thread is getting very confusing...
I was being very sarcastic (I'm not now, though).
Sean Raia
24-02-2012, 23:58
Sometimes the fun of sarcasm is seeing how many people actually thought you were serious.
<sarcasm>everyone should just put sarcasm hash tags around their posts...</sarcasm>
:rolleyes: Don't we have smilie for that? :rolleyes: :eek:
PAR_WIG1350
25-02-2012, 17:28
:rolleyes: Don't we have smilie for that? :rolleyes: :eek:
The sarcasm emoticon has always looked more like a thinking emoticon to me. I think ;) would work much better to indicate sarcasm.
Hi there,
Team 907 is a bit behind and is looking into drastic measures to complete our robot. We were wondering, is this legal?
-Gregor
If that's you, the picture should become your avatar. Or it should become someone's avatar. It's hilarious.
If that's you, the picture should become your avatar. Or it should become someone's avatar. It's hilarious.
:ahh: It isn't me in the picture, but I promise you that he has seen your comment, and plans on it. :yikes:
haha our plan z is always attaching the shortest team member to the robot!
dictionaria13
01-03-2012, 19:17
XD It's too bad both of the freshmen on our team are too big...
haha our plan z is always attaching the shortest team member to the robot!
That idea got thrown around all throughout build season. "Hey if the robot doesn't work stick him in a box with a hole on top to throw basketballs."
That idea got thrown around all throughout build season. "Hey if the robot doesn't work stick him in a box with a hole on top to throw basketballs."
Our original robot design involved Shaq, duct tape, and the KOP drivetrain.
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