2012 FLR Robots

[Koko Ed]

You know the drill! Give up the goods!:

73 (http://www.edison73.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-defensive-robot.jpg)
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145 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHfxH8JOSPw&feature=youtu.be)
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191 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Wv4jMtK/0/L/IMG0045-L.jpg)
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340 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7744/photoxbf.jpg)
378 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-WJ5V3WB/0/L/IMG1112-L.jpg)
578 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0im0XImxBg)
639 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sew-HUc0lxY)
843
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1405
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1507 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-2JDbNVg/0/L/IMG1061-L.jpg)
1511 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-gZBTMQB/0/L/IMG0066-L.jpg)
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1551 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Wv4jMtK/0/L/IMG0045-L.jpg)
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2053
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3003 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-xQ4Cc3b/0/M/IMG0074-M.jpg)
3015 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-hh2DQCS/0/L/IMG1036-L.jpg)
3044
3157
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3181 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_2129.jpg)
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3951 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_0589.jpg)
4093 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Nbb4Tzj/0/L/IMG1033-L.jpg)
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[stundt1]

Here is 1559
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/c23/c23c4ba2ddb6536d65a5e169e15fac6c_m.jpg

[TeamUpNext3528]

Here is our robot! Team 3528
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFwkC_s2BAQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G27d3191FUAAAAAAAAAA

[Grim Tuesday]

I swear that half of the robots posted in the Showcase section are FLR robots.

On another subject, who would be interested in a Chief Delphi meetup at FLR this year?

[smistthegreat]

The link to 191 takes me to a picture of 1551. Everything else looks good, thanks for the list!

Edit: Totally down for the meet up, as long as we pick a convenient time for everyone involved.

[stundt1]

Team 2228

http://www.2011.hflrobotics.com/images/gallery/robot.jpg

I might be interested in the meetup.

[stundt1]

Team 3157

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78nHz283vqM&feature=channel

[Justin Montois]

Thanks for making my job so much easier!!

[stundt1]

Team 3044

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CbgNfkiPg&feature=relmfu

[ThirteenOfTwo]

To teams 145, 1507, 3015, 3157

Heads up: your bumpers as shown here are ILLEGAL as per rule <R35>.

<R35>: Teams shall display their team number on the Bumpers in four locations at approximately 90° intervals around the perimeter of the Robot. The numerals must be at least 4 in. high, at least ¾ in. in stroke width, and be either white in color or outlined in white. Team numbers must be clearly visible from a distance of not less than 100 ft, so that judges, referees, and announcers can easily identify competing Robots.

Question on 2/8/12 by Team 1619:
Q. Does R35 limit the team number quantity to exactly four locations? For instance, if one side of the robot has two short bumpers separated by a gap, can the complete team number be put on both of those bumpers? Thus, there'd be two complete team numbers on one side of the robot.
A. Rule [R35] requires that the team number be displayed in four locations, no more or fewer. 145, 1507, and 3015: your robots appear to display your team number in five locations around your frame.

3157, your bumpers in that video have numbers split across the front, also ruled illegal by the Q&A.

[Koko Ed]

73 (http://www.edison73.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-defensive-robot.jpg)
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145 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHfxH8JOSPw&feature=youtu.be)
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191 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/053/9/3/2012_x_cat_robot__exxio_auditonimous_robot_card_fr _by_kokoed-d4qn0xo.png)
229 (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/405839_10150546074845443_584480442_9324278_4211531 96_n.jpg)
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340 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7744/photoxbf.jpg)
378 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-WJ5V3WB/0/L/IMG1112-L.jpg)
578 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0im0XImxBg)
639 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sew-HUc0lxY)
843
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1507 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-2JDbNVg/0/L/IMG1061-L.jpg)
1511 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-gZBTMQB/0/L/IMG0066-L.jpg)
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1551 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Wv4jMtK/0/L/IMG0045-L.jpg)
1559 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/c23/c23c4ba2ddb6536d65a5e169e15fac6c_m.jpg)
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2228 (http://www.2011.hflrobotics.com/images/gallery/robot.jpg)
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3003 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-xQ4Cc3b/0/M/IMG0074-M.jpg)
3015 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-hh2DQCS/0/L/IMG1036-L.jpg)
3044 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CbgNfkiPg&feature=relmfu)
3157 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78nHz283vqM&feature=channel)
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3181 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_2129.jpg)
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3951 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_0589.jpg)
4093 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Nbb4Tzj/0/L/IMG1033-L.jpg)
4124 (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/405839_10150546074845443_584480442_9324278_4211531 96_n.jpg)
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[kevin.li.rit]

1405

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/6ec/6ec1338fd3077ad97d1d7a9863dbd150_l.jpg

[djdaugherty]

I added a picture of the Team 2053 robot to CD Media, but I don't know how to add it here. Sorry!

Deb

[stundt1]

Post the url of the picture here.

[pfreivald]

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37529 is a better picture than the one linked -- new side panels and a paint job!

[EricPalmatier]

There are some pretty nice robots attending FLR this year. I expect nothing less! Good luck to all teams atending and I cannot wait to see how everyone does!

[stundt1]

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37529 is a better picture than the one linked -- new side panels and a paint job!

I want to see your awesome drivetrain at FLR. I have never seen one that switches to a different set of wheels in real life yet. :) Good luck !!!!!

[djdaugherty]

Here is the link to the FIRST Team 2053 robot:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37531

[Larry Lewis]

Hey Ed! Here is some more updated photos of our robot.

[reymac]

Hey Larry, these pics look good. We look forward to joining your team and 191 in the 'blinding lights club' this year.

P.S. Thanks for all the help this build season.

[pfreivald]

I want to see your awesome drivetrain at FLR. I have never seen one that switches to a different set of wheels in real life yet. :) Good luck !!!!!

Thanks! Here's a little preview of the drive, though it doesn't show us going over the barrier... Please ignore the shooter. Our PID wasn't dialed in yet! http://vimeo.com/37410634

[Koko Ed]

73 (http://www.edison73.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-defensive-robot.jpg)
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145 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHfxH8JOSPw&feature=youtu.be)
174
191 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/053/9/3/2012_x_cat_robot__exxio_auditonimous_robot_card_fr _by_kokoed-d4qn0xo.png)
229 (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/405839_10150546074845443_584480442_9324278_4211531 96_n.jpg)
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340 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7744/photoxbf.jpg)
378 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-WJ5V3WB/0/L/IMG1112-L.jpg)
578 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0im0XImxBg)
639 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sew-HUc0lxY)
843
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1405 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/6ec/6ec1338fd3077ad97d1d7a9863dbd150_l.jpg)
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1507 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-2JDbNVg/0/L/IMG1061-L.jpg)
1511 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-gZBTMQB/0/L/IMG0066-L.jpg)
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1551 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/156/15693783bf3895ee5a359dae2c03fec4_m.jpg)
1559 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img/c23/c23c4ba2ddb6536d65a5e169e15fac6c_m.jpg)
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2228 (http://www.2011.hflrobotics.com/images/gallery/robot.jpg)
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3003 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-xQ4Cc3b/0/M/IMG0074-M.jpg)
3015 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-hh2DQCS/0/L/IMG1036-L.jpg)
3044 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CbgNfkiPg&feature=relmfu)
3157 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78nHz283vqM&feature=channel)
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3181 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_2129.jpg)
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3951 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f327/X-Cats/2012%20Season/Penfield%20Rally%20Feb%2019%202012/IMG_0589.jpg)
4093 (http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2011-2012FIRSTRobotics/Build-Season/Rochester-Rally-21912/i-Nbb4Tzj/0/L/IMG1033-L.jpg)
4124 (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/405839_10150546074845443_584480442_9324278_4211531 96_n.jpg)
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[Cyberphil]

I am looking forward to seeing all of these bots in person this year. They are looking great!

[Dr. Shocker]

I can't wait to see all the robots. (and the people who made them too.) good luck everyone!

[djdaugherty]

I thought that I posted the link to the TigerTronics picture, but I guess I didn't. Here is the link to the FIRST Team 2053 robot: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37531

[Tetraman]

It's the only good photo I've got at the current moment. I'll see what I can do about getting a better shot someone else on the team took.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/DSCN7062.jpg

[Sean Raia]

Thanks for getting Devil Tech up there Steve.

Looks like we have some great robots in the mix... I look forward to competing with all of you this year!

Edit: Is there a marginally smaller number of teams attending this year?

[smistthegreat]

It's the only good photo I've got at the current moment. I'll see what I can do about getting a better shot someone else on the team took.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/ErwinTheSketcher/DSCN7062.jpg

What kind of a drivetrain is that!? It looks like swerve with the long belt runs, but there's a Cim on the shooter and I'm just all kinds of confused. Can't wait to see that beast in person.

[Koko Ed]

Thanks for getting Devil Tech up there Steve.

Looks like we have some great robots in the mix... I look forward to competing with all of you this year!

Edit: Is there a marginally smaller number of teams attending this year?
41 teams. Mostly local.

[Grim Tuesday]

Yeah, only one Canadian team and no Michigan teams this year :(

[stundt1]

This sucks I wont be getting any more rubber chickens to add to my collection this year:(


Thanks for getting Devil Tech up there Steve.


any time I was scouting on websites anyways :)
Awesome robot maybe we can work together like we did at the Ruckus :)



What kind of a drivetrain is that!? It looks like swerve with the long belt runs, but there's a Cim on the shooter and I'm just all kinds of confused. Can't wait to see that beast in person.

It looks like some type of swerve to me. I second that I cant wait to see their robot :)

[Sean Raia]

This sucks I wont be getting any more rubber chickens to add to my collection this year:(
I too noticed that they weren't attending this year, sad indeed. They always raised the bar of competition at FLR.


Awesome robot maybe we can work together like we did at the Ruckus :)

:) Thanks! Maybe we will!

[Tetraman]

On our drive train - it has been designed over the past year by mentors and students, and machined and built by the students this entire build season. I personally do not know much of it, however the students are excited to show it off and answer all of your questions. It really is a beauty to behold.

[commodoredl]

Also Correction there is more than 1 canadian team attending the regional. There is team 843 and team 174.


Actually, 174 is from Liverpool, NY. There is one Canadian team and there are two teams from Ohio coming to FLR. The rest are New Yorkers!

My guess is that 174 put together a swerve with a custom gearbox, similar to what 118 did back in 2007. Maybe a 3 CIM, 1 or 2 FP gearbox running a coaxial swerve?
I can see at least one FP motor elsewhere on the robot, so I don't know what is running the drive, but I'm guessing it's handled with a central gearbox.

[stundt1]

Whoops was thinking of 188. But they aren't coming this year.

[pfreivald]

We finished our unveil video a little late... I dropped it in the Robot Showcase, but I figure here's a good place, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrM2GlbGOBQ

(Oh, and at about 2:20 you can see the Warlocks bank three in a row in teleop!)

[stundt1]

Looks good 1551. So when you go over the bump do you use the mechs?
Also when will you you use the plaction wheels? For pushing?

I want to investigate your robot more at FLR. Curious.

[pfreivald]

Looks good 1551. So when you go over the bump do you use the mechs?

We use both the performance (not plaction) and the mechs when going over the barrier.

Also when will you you use the plaction wheels? For pushing?

A. Pushing matches (assuming they come up, which they usually do).
B. Bridge traction -- we *can* balance with the mecanum wheels, but the lower speed, higher traction drive is great for easier balancing -- it also allows us to park in place (sideways or longways) and let our alliance partners balance with us as dead weight if that's easier for them.

[stundt1]

Excuse my stupidness when it comes to drive trains. :)

Also, if they would use you as a dead weight wouldn't you use the mechs?
Then you could turn easily and go sideways.
And it would be easy for them to push you if needed.

But I don't know how well the mechs will actually grip the actual material on the bridges because its very slippery.

[pfreivald]

Also, if they would use you as a dead weight wouldn't you use the mechs?

That depends. If they want to be able to push us, we can use the mechs. If they want us to stay still while they move back and forth to balance, we can do that, too.

But I don't know how well the mechs will actually grip the actual material on the bridges because its very slippery.

Reasonably well, but not as well as the performance wheels. You also get a lot of help with the performance wheels -- they're much harder to backdrive than the mecanum wheels are, and have essentially no sideways slip.

[Justin Montois]

That depends. If they want to be able to push us, we can use the mechs. If they want us to stay still while they move back and forth to balance, we can do that, too.



Reasonably well, but not as well as the performance wheels. You also get a lot of help with the performance wheels -- they're much harder to backdrive than the mecanum wheels are, and have essentially no sideways slip.

I'm curious what your strategy was behind this design. What do you expect your robot to be doing match in, match out?

Looks good, can't wait to learn more about it

[pfreivald]

I'm curious what your strategy was behind this design. What do you expect your robot to be doing match in, match out?

Score points and balance bridges.

Our design has been modular from the beginning, with a down/up-scale functionality based on what it is that we are actually able to pull off. That is to say, not only our mechanical systems, but our strategy has been modular -- we designed things so that pushing for more than we think we might be able to accomplish actually brought us closer to more realistic goals as well, so that time was well-spent even if the ultimate functionality envisioned didn't pay off.