View Full Version : FRC Spyder for 2012
Mike Soukup
25-02-2012, 16:24
The Android (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dwabtech.frcspyder&hl=en) and iOS (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/frc-spyder/id361141145?mt=8) versions of FRC Spyder are back again for the 2012 season. You need to go to the Android Market or iTunes App store to update the apps to the latest version, last year's version will not show this year's data.
As always, let us know if you run into problems or if you just want to tell us how much you like Spyder. Enjoy :)
kjohnson
25-02-2012, 16:30
Update works great on my RAZR. Keep up the great work guys, this is an excellent and extremely useful app.
MagiChau
25-02-2012, 17:03
Just to let you that Gull Lake's team list is outdated since 123, 247, and 904 are registered raising the total teams to 36.
I loved FRC Spyder last year, so I'm very interested in using it this year. I just went to the Android market (2/25/2012 at 5:02pm EST), and it's not offering me an update. Do I need to uninstall and start over? The About screen doesn't give me a version, build date, or something that would confirm I have the latest. I just know I can only get 2010 and 2011 events, so I don't seem to have the latest.
I really want to use it again, so please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
Cyberphil
25-02-2012, 17:07
Once again, I cannot wait to use this app. It is by far my most-used app during competition season, and I am sure that holds true for many people.
Keep up the good work, and thank you very much!
Mike Soukup
25-02-2012, 17:34
I loved FRC Spyder last year, so I'm very interested in using it this year. I just went to the Android market (2/25/2012 at 5:02pm EST), and it's not offering me an update. Do I need to uninstall and start over? The About screen doesn't give me a version, build date, or something that would confirm I have the latest. I just know I can only get 2010 and 2011 events, so I don't seem to have the latest.
I really want to use it again, so please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
You're not doing anything wrong. I just uploaded the new version before I posted, it takes a while for the market to sync. Check back later or wait for the automatic update (if you have it enabled).
I got the iOS update this afternoon about 4:30pm eastern. As before, this app rocks! Any chance of adding robot photos in the future?
I'll get the app soon, as it's been an invaluable resource in past years. In the meantime, I have a pretty important question for this year: does the app calculate OPR with or without penalties?
I got the app updated successfully :) Awesome now I dont have to go to my laptop to get rankings.This will definately save me from running into the pits to check our ranking :)
Thanks Mike
I updated mine today, thank you so much for your work on this app. I use it heavily during our competitions and it is extremely helpful.
Thanks!
Sounds great, just got mine updated :) First year with a phone, so I expect to use it quite a bit :p
On another note, any news about a possible Blackberry version? Some of our mentors are desperately hoping for one :o
I just uploaded the new version before I posted, it takes a while for the market to sync. Check back later or wait for the automatic update (if you have it enabled).
I just updated this morning, it worked fine. Added my events and team, can't wait to see it in action. Thanks, Mike!
This is one of my favorite pics from last year. This is us after a match at Smoky Mountain last year. Thanks for your hard work.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/scott4020/5675301539_ef19f97f6e_z.jpg
REFRESH REFRESH come on.
What I did last year was use the frc standings website and got the match scores before they posted them on the screen.
My teammates got annoyed because I would tell them if we won or lost a match before the scores were projected on the screen. :)
JohnSchneider
26-02-2012, 11:43
Will there also be an FRC Tracker this year? Both apps work well together in that Spyder lets you see rankings, but Tracker lets you see what the robots actually look like...
Mike Soukup
26-02-2012, 11:53
thank you so much for your work on this app
Thanks, Mike!
Thank Dave Flowerday too, he writes the iOS version.
does the app calculate OPR with or without penalties?
FRC Spyder does not calculate OPR. Our focus is match results and rankings. Maybe in the future.
On another note, any news about a possible Blackberry version?
Nope. None of us have a Blackberry and we're too busy with work & other projects to take on another platform.
Will there also be an FRC Tracker this year?
That's not developed by us, but Tom tweeted a couple days ago that he submitted the new version to the App Store.
johnmaguire2013
26-02-2012, 12:33
To repeat what everyone else has said, thank you very much for this. I hadn't known about this last year, but it'll be awesome to use this year.
pyroslev
26-02-2012, 19:45
Works on the Casio Commando. Gonna be a nice addition to the traditional scouting arsenals.
I really appreciate you making the Spyder available; it looks like a great app. I didn't have an Android phone last year so I've only used it for after-the-fact lookups, but it's helpful even for that. I'm looking forward to current data.
I've only a couple of minor suggestions:
1 - It'd be nice if my favorites carried over from year to year.
2 - A search feature in the team list would make it a lot quicker to find a team. Both by number & by name would be helpful.
REFRESH REFRESH come on.
What I did last year was use the frc standings website and got the match scores before they posted them on the screen.
My teammates got annoyed because I would tell them if we won or lost a match before the scores were projected on the screen. :)
The best part was, no one knew how I was doing it for the 1st half of the district we were at =)
Anyone have a direct download to the android apk? My market isn't working right.
Will there also be an FRC Tracker this year? Both apps work well together in that Spyder lets you see rankings, but Tracker lets you see what the robots actually look like...
For the record...FRC Tracker 2012 is now in the apple app store
CastleBravo
01-03-2012, 00:11
Does anyone else have a problem with the app clearing favorites after refreshing stats?
bladetech932
01-03-2012, 22:56
Clears favorites everytime i update results and such. Otherwise its awesome great work!
Mike Soukup
02-03-2012, 08:01
Clears favorites everytime i update results and such. Otherwise its awesome great work!
I fixed it last night. Grab the update.
Chexposito
02-03-2012, 09:12
Good job guys, had the android version last year and that was perfect and i haven't found anything wrong with the ios version
Dave Flowerday
02-03-2012, 10:35
I'm sure this question will come up soon, so to head it off now:
The incorrect match times for the Alamo Regional are coming from FIRST. My guess is that the scoring computer there was incorrectly set for the Eastern time zone instead of Central.
jlindquist74
02-03-2012, 20:26
Dave, where do you want bug reports and feature requests to go to?
nathannfm
02-03-2012, 21:07
Love the app (android version), I was using it along side the quad stream of the regionals today =)
But I saw that Hatboro didn't have any real time data :/ I assume that's not the apps fault but that the data is not available online. I hope the rest of the new MAR events have live feed data, it makes scouting SOO much easier.
Love the app (android version), I was using it along side the quad stream of the regionals today =)
But I saw that Hatboro didn't have any real time data :/ I assume that's not the apps fault but that the data is not available online. I hope the rest of the new MAR events have live feed data, it makes scouting SOO much easier.
The field was not communicating with the outside world today due to what sounded like web filtering at the host school. I heard a rumor that an 3G/4G access point might be setup for tomorrow so the FMS can communicate but don't count on it.
The field was not communicating with the outside world today due to what sounded like web filtering at the host school. I heard a rumor that an 3G/4G access point might be setup for tomorrow so the FMS can communicate but don't count on it.
Must be some strict filtering. Are they blocking everything but HTTP?
Dave Flowerday
03-03-2012, 08:50
Dave, where do you want bug reports and feature requests to go to?
If you think you found a bug, you can send a PM to Mike or myself.
For feature requests, I'll be honest and say that there's basically no chance of any new features being added at this time. Mike's schedule and my schedule are essentially full for the time being, so barring a serious bug, FRC Spyder likely "is what it is" for 2012. If you'd like to propose feature ideas anyway I'd say just put them here in this thread.
If you'd like to propose feature ideas anyway I'd say just put them here in this thread.
It'd be nice to put back the previous year's data. I used those a lot to refresh my memory of 2010 & 2011 while we were planning our scouting.
This is incredibly useful; thank you for making it available. At one point we had 5 people sitting in the same area trying to get updates on rankings, on 4 different phone models. :-) Thd problem was FIRST wasn't updating data; nothing to do with you.
sandiegodan
06-03-2012, 21:22
Love this app, thank you for putting in the time and keeping it going year after year. When I meet someone from the public just watching from the stands, this app quickly downloads and lets them see the bigger picture very quickly. They can follow the rankings, look up teams, see how things are going. I hope you and FIRST realize how much this portable "program" means to the public acceptance of this competition! They should be advertising this throughout the matches for audience.
Oh, and of course, everyone on Team Spyder loves the name! :cool: Care to share how you came up with it or is that in another thread somewhere? (We always give you credit when folks ask about it, and we get asked a lot!)
Dave Scheck
06-03-2012, 22:15
Oh, and of course, everyone on Team Spyder loves the name! :cool: Care to share how you came up with it or is that in another thread somewhere? (We always give you credit when folks ask about it, and we get asked a lot!)Glad you like the app. Mike and Dave (other Dave, I'm not talking in the 3rd person ;)) put a lot of effort into making a valuable tool for the community and I know that positive feedback is always appreciated.
To answer your question about the name, the app was originally intended to be named FRCSpy, but there was already a CD feature (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/frcspy.php) by that name that we didn't want to infringe on and cause confusion with. We knew we wanted to keep the Spy aspect of it, and since the app is basically a data crawler, like a spider, we merged the two and Spyder was born.
FYI, if you're into VEX, there's a counterpart named VEX via for both Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dwabtech.vexvia) and IOS (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vex-via/id430086367?mt=8) available for their larger competitions, (Pan Pacific, Mid Atlantic Championship, US National Championship, and World Championship)
Mike Soukup
07-03-2012, 13:36
It'd be nice to put back the previous year's data. I used those a lot to refresh my memory of 2010 & 2011 while we were planning our scouting.
I took it out this year because my approach to get 2010 & 2011 to play nicely together was a quick, ugly hack last year. I didn't want to perpetuate the ugliness and I didn't have time to fix it properly, so I took it out.
charlie.drummer
15-03-2012, 14:25
I really love this app! Works great on my Droid X2.
My team is developing a computer program for scouting to handle the huge amount of information we get. We would like to have it get the match schedule off of the FIRST site. Where does your app get it's data from? I know they post the match schedule and the results in an html file, but do they store it in any other form other than html. We are really not looking forward to parsing html. Thanks!
...do they store it in any other form other than html. We are really not looking forward to parsing html. Thanks!
What language are you using? Unless you're using something obscure I'd be very surprised if you won't have multiple choices about which HTML-parsing library routines you use. There's no reason at all that you should have to rewrite such a common piece of code.
charlie.drummer
16-03-2012, 00:31
We are using java, and I know there are many libraries out there. We wouldn't have to actually parse it our self. I was just wondering if they store it in a form that would be easier to read and pick out the information we want from. I looked at the source for the match schedule page on the FIRST site, and it would be a pain to have to find the proper html table out of all the others on the page.
nathannfm
16-03-2012, 03:41
My Droid Charge was the only phone on my team that could hold a signal at Chestnut Hill (and even then it was usually only 1x) so I got a lot of use out of it. I like how the app uses so little data that it can still update at that speed when every other data dependent app I have was useless. I did notice that the elimination bracket won't update until after the match is played even though some of the spots are known, that was the only "bug" I could find, over all great app!
RobotBill
16-03-2012, 06:52
FRC Spyder has the option for manual event updates. Is there a way to set it up for automatic, continual, updates (with a user provided periodicity)?
jason701802
20-03-2012, 18:23
FRC Spyder has the option for manual event updates. Is there a way to set it up for automatic, continual, updates (with a user provided periodicity)?
If you use the widget, you can set the app to auto update up to every 15 minutes.
I've found a bug. The teams listed for the Seattle regionals no not match the team list on http://www.usfirst.org/whatsgoingon and it has been like this for at least a week. Either the app isn't updating correctly or it is using a bad source.
Also, push notifications haven't been working for me at all this year.
Just wanted to throw some kudos on the pile. I love this app at competition and watching from afar. At every event, I have a parent come up to me and ask me if I have seen this FRC Spyder thing. I find this really cool as these are parents I usually only see at events which means they are getting so excited, they want to follow other events as well (and you guys are making it accessible).
Billfred
21-03-2012, 19:30
Count me as a fan too. This is MUCH better than being camped out around the pit screen waiting to see our number.
Just curious, is it possible for FRC Spyder to work at off-season events? This would be an even bigger asset for events where the pit display is small/far/non-existent.
pyroslev
21-03-2012, 20:10
Working on the field at the VA regional, teams asked me what their station was. This handy little app allowed me to send the wayward drivers to their right station. VERY handy. If there is a way to donate to this app, I am greatly inclined to do so.;)
Mike Soukup
22-03-2012, 00:40
Also, push notifications haven't been working for me at all this year.
They have been working fine for me and based on the server statistics, a bunch of other people too. I didn't even know 217 was competing last weekend until I got a score notification while sitting at my desk.
RobotBill
22-04-2012, 22:17
Why does FRC Spyder show 402 teams going to the championship and it shows 4 divisions of 100 teams each?
Is there any chance you can build in support for Android tablets? It's a small market, but I would love you forever.
Is there any chance you can build in support for Android tablets? It's a small market, but I would love you forever.
I second this notion. :D
Mike Soukup
21-08-2012, 10:31
Are you saying it doesn't work on tablets or are you asking for a tablet optimized version? If it's the former, let me know what the problem is because it works on my Xoom. If it's the latter, I'm sorry to say it will be low on my priority list since life has gotten in the way of many "nice to have's" these days.
Are you saying it doesn't work on tablets or are you asking for a tablet optimized version? If it's the former, let me know what the problem is because it works on my Xoom. If it's the latter, I'm sorry to say it will be low on my priority list since life has gotten in the way of many "nice to have's" these days.
Mike,
Works great on my Xoom, didn't have an issue this season with FRC Spyder.
Can't thank you enough for this app, it really gets people engaged. Especially parents in the stands.
-RC
Are you saying it doesn't work on tablets or are you asking for a tablet optimized version? If it's the former, let me know what the problem is because it works on my Xoom. If it's the latter, I'm sorry to say it will be low on my priority list since life has gotten in the way of many "nice to have's" these days.
I was unable to get it to update on a friends Xoom the week before worlds. It would get half way through and then stop. Still, It's a great app and I use it all the time. Keep up the good work!
Are you saying it doesn't work on tablets or are you asking for a tablet optimized version? If it's the former, let me know what the problem is because it works on my Xoom. If it's the latter, I'm sorry to say it will be low on my priority list since life has gotten in the way of many "nice to have's" these days.
The latter. It's not a huge issue, but I don't think it looks like a hard fix either.
I'm on a Nexus 7. Here's a screenshot: here (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bw93uZQ57k1ESUpWU3JNNnlYbjA)
I didn't experience any other problems. Updated just fine. Bracket, Rankings, and Team List all work as advertised.
Mike Soukup
22-08-2012, 17:17
I'm on a Nexus 7. Here's a screenshot: here (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bw93uZQ57k1ESUpWU3JNNnlYbjA)
Well that's ugly. I'll get around to fixing it some day.
xSAWxBLADEx
13-02-2013, 12:35
Spyder 2013?
Mike Soukup
18-02-2013, 15:55
Spyder 2013?
Hopefully soon :)
In time for FLR and other week 1 regionals? I really hope so; using the app is so much better than attempting to follow the ranking monitors.
Mike Soukup
25-02-2013, 10:19
In time for FLR and other week 1 regionals? I really hope so; using the app is so much better than attempting to follow the ranking monitors.
That's the plan.
Mike, let me know if you need a beta tester. And, of course, as soon as we can download the released app.
I have a countdown on my home page: 2 days, 18 hours, 30 minutes to FLR...
Can you tell I'm excited?
Thanks for having the app ready before Week 1 Regionals. I updated the night before Finger Lakes Regional, and it worked flawlessly all weekend. Great work!
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