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Just wondering what some ofthe high scoring competitions have been. The best I've seen just happened in semi-finals in Gull Lake, MI. Teams 85, 1918, and 1677 won wih a score of 50-8. 30 basket points and 20 bridge points.
Saw a 70 on a webcast of the Kansas City event.
Kristian Calhoun
03-03-2012, 14:45
QF1-2 at Hatboro-Horsham had a reported score of 83-29. However, for some reason the FIRST event page is showing the score as 103-0. I didn't hear any announcement of a score change/DQ on the webcast, so I'm not quite sure what went on there.
toastnbacon
03-03-2012, 15:13
Another team at Kansas City just scored 89.
In not entirely sure, but apparently on Thursday, one match at KC was apparently 1500 - 1200 during practice.
There was just a match with a score of 89 in the Hatboro finals.
1986, 16, and 3784 posted a score of 89 in quarterfinal 1-2 a few minutes ago at Greater Kansas City Regional.
stupidgerman
03-03-2012, 17:06
341, 1218, and 1640 won their second finals match 90-47
skywalker341
03-03-2012, 17:11
QF1-2 at Hatboro-Horsham had a reported score of 83-29. However, for some reason the FIRST event page is showing the score as 103-0. I didn't hear any announcement of a score change/DQ on the webcast, so I'm not quite sure what went on there.
the other alliance got a red card for touching the bridge while balancing, so 341's alliance got the extra points. then in the final match of the event the winning alliance scored 90
tanmaker
04-03-2012, 00:11
In not entirely sure, but apparently on Thursday, one match at KC was apparently 1500 - 1200 during practice.
hahahaha, this is completely true. Myself and the other refs were making sure that the tablets worked, and they do! In fact, FIRST HQ sent us a Skype message asking if everything was going ok. They thought that our field and scoring system was on the fritz.
Here in San Diego the highest we've seen has only been the lower 30s. This was mostly a result of some low basket scoring (around 5-15) and then bridge points, with two robots balancing a very rare occurrence. Tomorrow's elimination matches should yield much higher scores.
In SD there was a 36v40 match, which I believe was the highest.
It would also be interesting to look at the highest TP and HP.
Robonauts posted a TP of 159 at Alamo
Team 131 posted a HP of 132 at BAE
It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the weeks continue.
Jared Russell
04-03-2012, 11:02
341 put up 218 HP and 249 TP in 12 rounds at Hatboro-Horsham.
With partners 1218 and 1640 we put up scores of 89, 90, and 103 (83 before G25) in elims.
Alpha Beta
04-03-2012, 11:06
Highest Hybrid in a single match...
1986, 16 ,and 3784 hit all 6 shots (4 top, 2 mid) for 34 points. 3784 chose the mid to minimze the risk of ball interference.
Match 19 here: http://www.more.net/content/2012-first-semi-final-and-final-matches
PS. We'll see if we can work up a double auto to shoot the coop bridge balls for the next regional.
71-37 in Quarterfinals was the high in San Diego
Well, Waterford just hit 103, so anything is possible...
Team 469, 67, and 2851 for a triple, 12 hybrid, and 30 teleop, plus 21 foul points
Lil' Lavery
10-03-2012, 14:31
89 in Hatboro F-2 remains the highest foul-free score. We've seen two 103s and a 100 where fouls gave significant contributions to the score.
At Waterford the 67-469-2851 alliance won 103-24 in the Quarterfinals.
mhat_ios
11-03-2012, 14:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_c6bf-8&feature=related
GTR-East quarter finals
610/188/3360 won 100 to 10, however, if you watch the last few seconds of the hybrid period, 610's last shot only registers as 3, when it should have been six, so the correct score should have been 103-10. I believe that this is the highest score (tied) as well as the greatest difference between the two scores.
Regards,
Michael
Highest Hybrid in a single match...
1986, 16 ,and 3784 hit all 6 shots (4 top, 2 mid) for 34 points. 3784 chose the mid to minimze the risk of ball interference.
Match 19 here: http://www.more.net/content/2012-first-semi-final-and-final-matches
PS. We'll see if we can work up a double auto to shoot the coop bridge balls for the next regional.341, 816 and 4373 also put up a 34 point hybrid at Chestnut Hill. This is all the more crazy in that it was just a random qualification match: Q - 48, to be specific.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_c6bf-8&feature=related
GTR-East quarter finals
610/188/3360 won 100 to 10, however, if you watch the last few seconds of the hybrid period, 610's last shot only registers as 3, when it should have been six, so the correct score should have been 103-10. I believe that this is the highest score (tied) as well as the greatest difference between the two scores.
Regards,
MichaelThe greatest score difference is also tied for the highest single score: 103-0 in the Horsham quarter finals. This was official, though benefited from a G25 red card.
nikeairmancurry
11-03-2012, 15:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_c6bf-8&feature=related
GTR-East quarter finals
610/188/3360 won 100 to 10, however, if you watch the last few seconds of the hybrid period, 610's last shot only registers as 3, when it should have been six, so the correct score should have been 103-10. I believe that this is the highest score (tied) as well as the greatest difference between the two scores.
Regards,
Michael
Only if all balls shot in hybrid would count as hybrid points would the correct score would be 103-10. But to bad first has the counters on a timer where they switch right at the 15 sec mark.
JDemaray
11-03-2012, 15:21
The Waterford District in MI this weekend had an Einstein preview. The alliance of 67, 469 and 2851 won 103-28. They had a triple balance in the quarterfinal matches.
The finals featured a double triple balance. There have been no known reports of another double triple. The above alliance won 85-67. The losing alliance was 573, 3601 and 3098.
Anybody hear of any other double triple balance matches?
onecoolc
12-03-2012, 00:04
Can't figure out how to delete a post.
89 in Hatboro F-2 remains the highest foul-free score. We've seen two 103s and a 100 where fouls gave significant contributions to the score.
Does this mean after foul points are subtracted, or highest score in a match where there were no penalites?
Sorry for the confusion, but i still cant figure out these answers:
Highest score including penalties
Highest score after subtracting penalties.
Highest combined score before/after subtracting penalties
Biggest score difference before/after subtracting penalties
Thanks!
-Duke
NickTosta
12-03-2012, 01:10
Highest score I've personally seen was 83 during a WPI elimination match.
Lil' Lavery
12-03-2012, 02:08
Does this mean after foul points are subtracted, or highest score in a match where there were no penalites?
In the case of that match, both. There were no foul points in that match, and no match has had a higher score once foul points were subtracted.
Adam Freeman
12-03-2012, 08:57
Well, Waterford just hit 103, so anything is possible...
Team 469, 67, and 2851 for a triple, 12 hybrid, and 30 teleop, plus 21 foul points
I didn't even notice the fouls in that match. Apparently, they weren't even worth the trouble. No wonder we were never able to reach a score that high again.
Makes sense though in all the rest of the matches we scored around 40pts between Hybrid and Telep + the Triple Balance (40pts).
Hinfoiltat
12-03-2012, 18:46
Well in Pittsburgh, we went 74-0 in one of the final matches; full 6/6 6 6 point auton and double bridge.
At the Pittsburgh Regional,
Red Alliance 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E., 2614 MARs, and 375 Robotic Plauge, won Quarters 1 Match 2 74-0.
36 point autonomous with a double balance
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21013371
The last ball of autonomous was counted as only 3 because is landed in the hoop in tele-op. The other 3 points of that shot were added in at the end of the match
Grim Tuesday
14-03-2012, 01:21
The GDC has been very clear; if a ball doesn't go past the sensors in auton, it isn't counted for it. I don't know why the Pittsburg crew changed that, but watching that video, the announcer is hilarious "A package from THE PAIN MONSTER".
The GDC has been very clear; if a ball doesn't go past the sensors in auton, it isn't counted for it. I don't know why the Pittsburg crew changed that, but watching that video, the announcer is hilarious "A package from THE PAIN MONSTER".
Nope.
Refer to this post (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1139055&postcount=51), which states that the Q&A has indicated otherwise, (I don't have access to the team's Q&A account myself so quoting CD will have to do.)
Also, the score in Finals Match 1 at Waterford was changed to reflect that a ball that went through the hoop in hybrid always will count for the hybrid bonus, regardless of when it passes through the sensor. You can hear the announcers stating this in the recording here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eazGY1yQdfc).
Also, I HEARD, but this is just hearsay so don't take it as truth or anything, that the refs at Kettering knew that the last ball in hybrid during Finals 3 should have counted, but they never bothered to change it because it didn't affect the outcome of the match.
Waterford, E19: total score 152 (red 85, blue 67)
Robonauts posted a TP of 159 at Alamo
Team 131 posted a HP of 132 at BAE
Where did you get these numbers from ?
Jared Russell
14-03-2012, 10:11
Where did you get these numbers from ?
The "Standings" page on the FIRST website for each event lists cumulative HP, TP, and BP.
Ex: http://frclinks.com/e/r/nh
The "Standings" page on the FIRST website for each event lists cumulative HP, TP, and BP.
Ex: http://frclinks.com/e/r/nh
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.
103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford
152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers
57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida
45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East
61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida
note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data
Top few from the qualification rounds. last column is sum of scores and just before that is alliance score.
PHL 3:49 PM 29 3553 423 4373 816 3929 484 21 80 80 101
NJ 10:51 AM 82 223 1370 75 869 1676 224 15 80 80 95
ON 11:14 AM 14 4252 188 1221 4334 2185 2852 48 74 74 122
PAH 2:57 PM 16 341 1923 1218 1391 4361 709 74 16 74 90
PHL 8:46 AM 51 816 709 1257 365 834 222 6 74 74 80
KC 3:22 PM 48 1827 2335 3764 2949 1986 1987 0 72 72 72
ON 1:27 PM 23 610 3360 865 1114 2056 2994 20 71 71 91
ON 11:11 AM 59 2185 907 1114 4248 2852 1241 69 38 69 107
WOR 9:44 AM 3 3280 3205 177 558 4254 2621 64 11 64 75
ON 10:50 AM 11 2056 4334 188 548 1547 1114 64 31 64 95
KC 12:08 PM 94 16 1997 2335 1737 2167 2346 64 7 64 71
WOR 3:07 PM 37 3930 3205 558 1735 4410 23 62 18 62 80
PHL 2:53 PM 22 3553 321 2539 1495 341 316 6 61 61 67
At the Pittsburgh Regional,
Red Alliance 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E., 2614 MARs, and 375 Robotic Plauge, won Quarters 1 Match 2 74-0.
36 point autonomous with a double balance
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21013371
The last ball of autonomous was counted as only 3 because is landed in the hoop in tele-op. The other 3 points of that shot were added in at the end of the matchThe GCD has been clear on the Q&A:
A: Per Rule [G38], the Basketballs are scored as they pass through the Hoop. So, if a Basketball shot during the Hybrid Period passes through the Hoop before the Hybrid Period ends, it will earn the Hybrid bonus of Rule [G39]. If it passes through the Hoop after Hybrid Period ends, it will not earn the Hybrid bonus.
A: Any Basketball that enters the Hoop during the Hybrid period will receive the Hybrid bonus.
Further, the Manual states:
[G06] A Match is 2 minutes and 15 seconds long. The Hybrid period (Hybrid) is the first 15 seconds of the Match. The Teleoperated period (Teleop) is the remaining 2-minute period. Each period ends when the Arena timer displays zero seconds.
If you watch the footage you posted, you'll see that the last ball is not through the hoop when the timer hits zero (not even close), and thus the ball should not have been counted.
This is the case for both corrected/should have been corrected scores that I've seen posted here thus far. (The other being GTR-East QF 3-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_c6bf-8&feature=related); I don't know about Kettering as I can't find a video that displays the timer.) Of course, this is probably a tough call to make from most perspectives, but I hope everyone at least understands the rules. I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though.
Yipyapper
14-03-2012, 12:07
188, 610 and 3360 got 100 points at Greater Toronto East, a big part being that they got 40 points from the bridge.
Greg Leighton
14-03-2012, 12:28
I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though.
I haven't checked the match myself but I trust Ether on reporting accurate numbers.
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers
If you watch the footage you posted, you'll see that the last ball is not through the hoop when the timer hits zero (not even close), and thus the ball should not have been counted.
At 25s of the posted video, you can see the ball at the base of the net-past the hoop, but not yet caught by the scoring sensor, while the clock is at 0. The feed is a bit choppy around this time, but if you go frame by frame you can see it. When the camera view changes at the beginning of teleop, you can see the head ref signal that it counts as a six point basket.[/derail]
Regardless, this is not the highest scoring match.
Teamcodeorange
14-03-2012, 13:19
In SD there was a 36v40 match, which I believe was the highest.
We won a match 61v25 the first quarter finals match in the SDR with 4161 and Super Nurds. :D
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.
103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford
152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers
57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida
45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East
61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida
note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data
For E9 @ Florida, I dont remember the red alliance scoring 40 points in hybrid?
At 25s of the posted video, you can see the ball at the base of the net-past the hoop, but not yet caught by the scoring sensor, while the clock is at 0. The feed is a bit choppy around this time, but if you go frame by frame you can see it. When the camera view changes at the beginning of teleop, you can see the head ref signal that it counts as a six point basket.[/derail]Do you really? I can easily freeze the screen at ~24s to display the timer at zero and the ball in the air halfway to the hoops. (Remember it's when the timer hits zero, not when the teleop count starts.) I'm not sure how you're getting what you see, but regardless I think we're proving just how hard it is to tell these things. The official ruling stands, of course.
I haven't checked the match myself but I trust Ether on reporting accurate numbers.Haha, yes. We've been joking about the prediction of exactly 36 since the score at Rutgers. I should check other results, though.
Originally Posted by Ether
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.
103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford
152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers
57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida
45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East
61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida
note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data
For E9 @ Florida, I dont remember the red alliance scoring 40 points in hybrid?
? Non sequitur.
? Non sequitur.
Sorry, I mean 51 because the blue alliance only scored 6.
Do you really? I can easily freeze the screen at ~24s to display the timer at zero and the ball in the air halfway to the hoops. (Remember it's when the timer hits zero, not when the teleop count starts.) I'm not sure how you're getting what you see, but regardless I think we're proving just how hard it is to tell these things. The official ruling stands, of course.
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You're right, I was going to the start of teleop.
I definitely don't envy the referees that have to make these close calls in a split second, especially if it's in a tight match.
Lil' Lavery
14-03-2012, 15:51
Misunderstanding. I thought the OP was asking for highest match scores, not cumulative event scores.
103 Max Alliance Score for single match; Match E1 at Waterford
152 Max Total Score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford
46 Max Alliance Hybrid Score for single match; Match Q82 at Rutgers
57 Max Total Hybrid Score for single match; Match E9 at Florida
45 Max Alliance TeleOp Score for single match; Match E3 at Toronto East
61 Max Total TeleOp Score for single match; Match E14 at Florida
note: does not include Oregon or Traverse City data
I don't trust either of those hybrid score numbers.
I don't trust either of those hybrid score numbers.E9 Florida:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzHjkH4O88&t=59m50s (top right screen)
Red: 29
Blue: 28
There's a jump in the play videography, but that's correct by the official display.
This is the case for both corrected/should have been corrected scores that I've seen posted here thus far. (The other being GTR-East QF 3-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8a_c6bf-8&feature=related); I don't know about Kettering as I can't find a video that displays the timer.) Of course, this is probably a tough call to make from most perspectives, but I hope everyone at least understands the rules. I don't think we can consider Car Nack wrong about the 36 Hybrid points just yet, though.
Siri, there was a 36 Hybrid score that was completed before the timer hit the 0 mark. It happened in GTR-East SF 2-1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89B6KcduI2w&feature=related).
I don't know if this is the smoking gun evidence you're looking for, but it's the best I've seen! :p
AlexD744
15-03-2012, 02:18
I don't trust either of those hybrid score numbers.
Can't comment on the first hybrib score, but the second one is correct, our robot participated in it. :D
Sorry for the confusion, but i still cant figure out these answers:
Highest score including penalties
Highest score after subtracting penalties.
Highest combined score before/after subtracting penalties
Biggest score difference before/after subtracting penalties
highest alliance score with foul points subtracted:
94 Detroit Match E19
highest alliance score with foul points included:
103 Waterford Match E1
highest match score with foul points subtracted:
152 Waterford Match E19
highest match score with foul points included:
152 Waterford Match E19
highest score difference with foul points subtracted:
75 Greater Toronto East Match E7
highest score difference with foul points included:
90 Greater Toronto East Match E7
CAVEAT: This is from Twitter data, which has completeness and correctness issues discussed elsewhere. Does not include NY Elim data which just came in.
stuart2054
21-03-2012, 16:26
I don't trust either of those hybrid score numbers.
I believe it we had a combined hybrid of 48 (36- 12) at Western Michigan.
MagiChau
21-03-2012, 16:55
I believe it we had a combined hybrid of 48 (36- 12) at Western Michigan.
We actually tied against 1718's 1st seed alliance in the first semi-final match with 30-30.
Shelbers2486
21-03-2012, 17:12
A score in Utah last week was 99. 54 of the points were due to penalties by a rookie bot on the opposite alliance.
highest alliance score with foul points subtracted:
94 Detroit Match E19
Simbotics, OP, and rookie team 4372 just broke this record at Waterloo E5, with 96 points + 3 foul points, winning the match 99-0.
nikeairmancurry
24-03-2012, 14:04
246-233-341 put up 94 + 9 foul points for a score of 103. Tying the highest single allaince score. This was QF 1-2
Akash Rastogi
24-03-2012, 14:05
341 233 and 246 just put up 103-19
nikeairmancurry
24-03-2012, 14:50
1114/2056/4372 100 points and 3 foul points! For 103!
MagiChau
24-03-2012, 14:50
1114's alliance just put up 103 as final score. 3 points from a penalty.
Tristan Lall
24-03-2012, 14:51
Waterloo: 2:35 PM Semi 1-1 13 1114 4372 2056 216 3756 4200 103 21
Video of the match here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jB2PZU1DmA
nikeairmancurry
24-03-2012, 15:42
New world high score 1114/2056/4372 105-16.. 96 points plus 9 foul points..
Also a 42 to 32 Hybrid in Boston
Tristan Lall
24-03-2012, 15:42
Waterloo: 3:31 PM Final 1-1 19 1114 2056 4372 244 1503 2852 105 16
basicxman
24-03-2012, 15:43
1114, 2056, and 4372 just scored 105. Link coming soon.
EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=h7inQWqIW9k
musicspeaks
24-03-2012, 16:55
67, 548, and 3656 just scored 113 in finals, match 2 of the Northville District.
Patrick Seeney
24-03-2012, 16:56
67, 548, and 3656 just scored 113 in finals, match 2 of the Northville District.
Amazing...Simply Amazing! Congratulations on another district win! Look forward to seeing you guys next week at Troy!
67, 548, and 3656 just scored 113 in finals, match 2 of the Northville District.
Got to remember the fine print: They got 27 points worth of fouls so it may not be as impressive a feat as the score implies...
67, 548, and 3656 just scored 113 in finals, match 2 of the Northville District.
That's sounds amazing, I've got to see that! Did someone record that game?
Grim Tuesday
24-03-2012, 17:18
Finals 1 of Wisconsin 77-98, might be a high combined score. No penalties.
woodze13
24-03-2012, 21:31
Also at Wisconsin team 2169 put up a TP of 317 through 11 matches. And in the finals the winning alliance of 269, 48, and 2826 put up two 98 point matches in a row.
kylelanman
25-03-2012, 01:23
Wisconsin Roboteers had 37 QP which is the highest we were able to find.
nikeairmancurry
25-03-2012, 01:28
Wisconsin Roboteers had 37 QP which is the highest we were able to find.
I think 1718 had 41 QP at West Michigan last weekend.
MagiChau
25-03-2012, 08:23
I think 1718 had 41 QP at West Michigan last weekend.
HOT was 4 pts away from a perfect qualification score with 44 QS. 20 from coopertiton (10 matches) and 24 from winning all 12 matched.
kylelanman
25-03-2012, 09:33
HOT was 4 pts away from a perfect qualification score with 44 QS. 20 from coopertiton (10 matches) and 24 from winning all 12 matched.
I stand corrected.
Twitter data weeks 1 through 4.
Be aware: Twitter data has many omissions and some errors.
Highest score in Seattle Olympic was match three of the finals: 68-67, with no fouls.
jacquesleclair
25-03-2012, 15:48
Just wondering what some ofthe high scoring competitions have been. The best I've seen just happened in semi-finals in Gull Lake, MI. Teams 85, 1918, and 1677 won wih a score of 50-8. 30 basket points and 20 bridge points.
team 1114 and 2056 and another team got 105 in waterloo
maltz1881
25-03-2012, 15:48
Well 67, 548 and 3656 in Elim. 1 scored 100/39 against 543, 1322 and 3668. :eek:
akoscielski3
25-03-2012, 16:40
Finals Match #1 in Waterloo was 105-16
Winning alliance was 1114, 2056, and 4372, against 244, 1503, and 2852.
105 is the highest score this season and this is probably the biggest difference in scores also with a difference of 89.
Finals Match #1 in Waterloo was 105-16
Winning alliance was 1114, 2056, and 4372, against 244, 1503, and 2852.
105 is the highest score this season and this is probably the biggest difference in scores also with a difference of 89.
Actually 113 is the highest score.
Bjenks548
25-03-2012, 17:53
Actually 113 is the highest score.
Also the 113-9 was the largest margin of victory at 104.
Travis Hoffman
25-03-2012, 18:00
Finals 1 of Wisconsin 77-98, might be a high combined score. No penalties.
Video of this match (only angle we have, for now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSChOG_CB6Y
We followed this up with another 98 point showing, aided by only one three-point penalty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv1EgRuSDXA
Jared Russell
26-03-2012, 09:24
Does anyone know the updated highest scores in each of the respective scoring categories?
I suspect that the Boston F2 hybrid score of 42 (341-233-246) to 32 (125-78-2084) was both the highest individual and combined hybrid score yet this season, but I cannot prove it.
I also suspect that the 84 points scored by balls alone in Boston QF1-2 (341-233-246) is a current high, but again, can't prove it.
For that matter, what is the current highest score without fouls? (Most HP+TP+BP)
Adam Freeman
26-03-2012, 09:38
Also the 113-9 was the largest margin of victory at 104.
I really think we should be looking at unpenalized scores (HS+TS+BS) when we try to figure out what the highest scores in the World are.
113 doesn't look so incredible when there are 27 penalty points.
I really think we should be looking at unpenalized scores (HS+TS+BS) when we try to figure out what the highest scores in the World are.
113 doesn't look so incredible when there are 27 penalty points.
I thought about that too but those points are part of the game. If a player in the NBA drops 50 on another team, everyone isnt going to dismiss it if he went to the free throw line 20 times. The penalty points are part of the game and you can win a match because of those points too, so I would count those towards the high score.
Jared Russell
26-03-2012, 09:53
Thus far the highest HP+TP+BP score I can find is Waterloo E-13 where 1114-2056-4372 put up 100 points before fouls (103 after).
Does anyone know the updated highest scores in each of the respective scoring categories?
I suspect that the Boston F2 hybrid score of 42 (341-233-246) to 32 (125-78-2084) was both the highest individual and combined hybrid score yet this season, but I cannot prove it.
I also suspect that the 84 points scored by balls alone in Boston QF1-2 (341-233-246) is a current high, but again, can't prove it.
For that matter, what is the current highest score without fouls? (Most HP+TP+BP)
If the Twitter data (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1148705) were complete and accurate, these questions would be easily answered.
Here are the results from the incomplete (and possibly incorrect) Twitter data:
max alliance score with foul points included
113 at WCA E20
max match total score with foul points included
175 at WI E19
max alliance score with foul points subtracted
100 at WAT E13
max match total score with foul points subtracted
175 at WI E19
max alliance hybrid
46 at NJ Q82
max match total hybrid
74 at MA E20
max alliance TeleOp
54 at MA E1 & WI E19
max match total TeleOp
99 at WI E19
PerpetualMotion
26-03-2012, 10:20
Similar to Ether's post above (also based on his twitter data), with team numbers included.
Top 5 Total Scores
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 total
WCA E 20 548 67 3656 113
WAT E 19 1114 2056 4372 105
WAT E 13 1114 4372 2056 103
MA E 5 246 233 341 103
OC1 E 1 469 67 2851 103
Top 5 Unpenalized Scores
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 UP Score
WAT E 13 1114 4372 2056 100
WI E 19 269 48 2826 98
WAT E 19 1114 2056 4372 96
WAT E 5 4372 2056 1114 96
WI E 20 2826 48 269 95
Top 4 Hybrid Scores (several tied at 36)
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 hyb
NJ Q 82 869 1676 224 46
MA E 13 246 341 233 42
MA E 20 341 233 246 42
WAT E 19 1114 2056 4372 41
Top 5 Teleop Scores
Event QE M# Bot1 Bot2 Bot3 tele
WI E 19 269 48 2826 54
MA E 1 233 341 246 54
WI E 20 2826 48 269 51
WAT E 13 1114 4372 2056 50
Most Triple Balances
Team Triples
67 10
469 9
548 5
3656 5
2851 5
1635 5
522 5
125 5
Video of this match (only angle we have, for now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSChOG_CB6Y
We followed this up with another 98 point showing, aided by only one three-point penalty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv1EgRuSDXA
That was some crazy firepower going on; congrats to all of the finalists at WI regional.
-Al
Jared Russell
26-03-2012, 10:32
I am hearing from asking around that the 46 point hybrid score in NJ Q82 was an error, but I am waiting for additional confirmation from the teams involved.
Also, E5 of Hatboro-Horsham was revised to a final of 103-0 (with 49 points coming from penalties, including interfering with a triple balance).
The 46 points in hybrid was an error. 224 could only score middle and the most points they put up in hybrid period, according to my scouting, was ten. 869 was a purely defensive bot who could not score, which would mean that 1676 had to put up six baskets. Something that I do not remember happening.
Bjenks548
26-03-2012, 11:53
Most Triple Balances
Team Triples
67 10
469 9
548 5
3656 5
2851 5
1635 5
522 5
125 5
548 actually has 6 triple balances 5 from the Northville District and 1 from Greater Toranto East Regional.
All I can say is, just wait for next week, at GTRW (ON2), when the likely top seeded alliance of 1114/2056 has a lot bigger pool of talent to choose from for the 24th pick.
Its been interesting at the 2 Ontario regionals thus far. Both times, its come down to the last round of matches to decide if 1114 would be the #1 seed, with 3161, 1815, and 610 all within closing distance at round 11 of the matches. Good luck for 1114 kept them in the #1 seed, with successful coopertition in their last Qualification match at GTRE from 2852, and a well timed unlucky match for 3161 in the last round at WAT.
Someone else seeding #1 would certainly make for a more even distribution of the firepower. A matchup of 1114/907 vs 188/2056 would certainly be more even than 1114/2056 vs 907/188. Would it make for better matches? I'm not sure; there is definitely something to watching the expert level at which an 1114/2056 alliance plays the game each year.
To me, the Montreal regional put up the most interesting show. The high volume of rookies, and the lack of any significant veteran powerhouses (the closest thing was 176 and 2590), lead to an impressively even matching in the eliminations. A quarter-final, both semi-finals (alliances 1,2,3, and 5), and the finals (alliances 1,3) all went to 3 rounds, with admittedly low, but at least close scores.
max match total score with foul points included
175 at WI E19
max alliance score with foul points subtracted
100 at WAT E13
max match total score with foul points subtracted
175 at WI E19
All I can say is, just wait for next week, at GTRW (ON2), when the likely top seeded alliance of 1114/2056 has a lot bigger pool of talent to choose from for the 24th pick.
A bit late, but GTRW saw a massive upset with 3161 taking 1st seed, leading to finals between 2634-3161-1114 and 4001-2056-2200, finally breaking up the Canadian duo. No surprise that this matchup broke three records:
Highest total match score, foul points included: 191, ON2 E19
Highest alliance score, foul points deducted: 102, ON2 E19
Highest total match score, foul points deducted: 185, ON2 E19
Kris Verdeyen
09-04-2012, 23:50
A bit late, but GTRW saw a massive upset with 3161 taking 1st seed, leading to finals between 2634-3161-1114 and 4001-2056-2200, finally breaking up the Canadian duo. No surprise that this matchup broke three records:
Highest total match score, foul points included: 191, ON2 E19
Highest alliance score, foul points deducted: 102, ON2 E19
Highest total match score, foul points deducted: 185, ON2 E19
Not sure if this is news, but semifinal 1 match 2 at lone star ended 106-90, with three foul points for the blue alliance. That is, if I can read the fms twitter code correctly.
I think that beats all three of those.
FRCTX TY E MC 15 RF 106 BF 90 RA 118 359 1642 BA 57 2415 3997 RB 20 BB 20 RFP 0 BFP 3 RHS 29 BHS 36 RTS 57 BTS 31 CP 0
F1 at Troy blows everything else out of the water. 117. Don't know if there were fouls contributing to that.
waialua359
10-04-2012, 03:09
Not sure if this is news, but semifinal 1 match 2 at lone star ended 106-90, with three foul points for the blue alliance. That is, if I can read the fms twitter code correctly.
I think that beats all three of those.
FRCTX TY E MC 15 RF 106 BF 90 RA 118 359 1642 BA 57 2415 3997 RB 20 BB 20 RFP 0 BFP 3 RHS 29 BHS 36 RTS 57 BTS 31 CP 0
What makes this even more impressive, is the fact that none of the 2 alliances did a triple balance. ;)
Jared Russell
10-04-2012, 08:00
F1 at Troy blows everything else out of the water. 117. Don't know if there were fouls contributing to that.
27 foul points :ahh:
Adam Freeman
10-04-2012, 09:22
27 foul points :ahh:
Apparently we (our alliances) are really good at drawing fouls from our opponents.
F-2 Northville: 113 (27 foul points).
F-1 Troy: 117 (27 foul points).
Hopefully at MSC we will see some scores that high w/o the fouls.
Apparently we (our alliances) are really good at drawing fouls from our opponents.
F-2 Northville: 113 (27 foul points).
F-1 Troy: 117 (27 foul points).
Hopefully at MSC we will see some scores that high w/o the fouls.
Interesting. a year or two ago we did a penalty OPR style analysis that showed that 67 had the ability to turn penalty bots into non-penalty bots.
Now they have the ability to turn non-penalty bots into penalty bots?
I am now convinced the secret to 67 success is some sort of crazy FIRST Voodoo.
Patrick Seeney
10-04-2012, 18:03
F-1 Troy: 117 (27 foul points).
We also didn't triple balance together F-1 Troy. Without the foul points which all came at once, we probably would of triple balanced and scored 110 clean. :] MSC will be fun!
Adam Freeman
10-04-2012, 21:24
I am now convinced the secret to 67 success is some sort of crazy FIRST Voodoo.
Yep. That's why I am half way through a week long pre-competition superstition routine.
Hey, I'm not going to question it. Now where is my sweatshirt???
midway78224
11-04-2012, 18:01
What makes this even more impressive, is the fact that none of the 2 alliances did a triple balance. ;)
I agreed. It was so fun to coach in this match. Our alliance fought hard and it was amazing to see the 36 pt auto get pulled off. I look forward to seeing all these teams at championships.
mdaniel462
16-04-2012, 08:32
Slight variation to the question:
What is the highest LOSING score?
We were the #8 alliance at MSC and went against the 67-469 "dream team".
We lost 90 - 97 (only 10 total foul points I think). It was a great match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R398xhhU9o8&feature=g-all-u&context=G2d4cf32FAAAAAAAAMAA
Does anyone know how the records are doing after MAR and MSC? They must have broken a few. At the risk of tooting our own horn, I think 341, 25 and 1640 set a new alliance high score of 115 at MAR, as well as a new alliance unpenalized score of 112.
Clinton Bolinger
16-04-2012, 13:24
Yep. That's why I am half way through a week long pre-competition superstition routine.
Hey, I'm not going to question it. Now where is my sweatshirt???
So is that why you guys don't come out to Tardec/IGVC?
There is no way you could wear a sweatshirt at that event.
-Clinton-
ahollenbach
16-04-2012, 13:34
Does anyone know how the records are doing after MAR and MSC? They must have broken a few. At the risk of tooting our own horn, I think 341, 25 and 1640 set a new alliance high score of 115 at MAR, as well as a new alliance unpenalized score of 112.
MSC did not break the high score records, so it currently stands:
You have the highest not including penalties, with 112, but F-1 Troy was the highest including penalties at 117.
Congrats on the MAR win, you guys played some great matches.
Note: In E-19 at Michigan, 67,830,469 scored 111 without penalties, so they came close ;)
teams
red blue red blue
Final 1-1 830 67 469 vs 2054 245 548 111 80
Christopher149
28-04-2012, 14:51
Curie:
1:36 PM Semi 1-2 341, 78, 254 vs 1885, 624, 244: 128 to 78
included a triple balance for 341, 78, 254
Curie:
1:25 pm SF2-1,
233,987, 207 vs 1477, 3528, 1741 ...116-81, with no triple and I believe no penalty points. But 128? Just awesome and motivational for us going into finals!
Grim Tuesday
29-04-2012, 20:08
Newton high score:
Semis 1 Match 2 118 2194 548 181 1519 1983 121 to 94
Might be the record combined score for all season.
robostangs548
29-04-2012, 20:14
Newton high score:
Semis 1 Match 2 118 2194 548 181 1519 1983 121 to 94
Might be the record combined score for all season.
Yeah, that was insane.
Newton high score:
Semis 1 Match 2 118 2194 548 181 1519 1983 121 to 94
Might be the record combined score for all season.
I would like to watch this match, does anyone know when it will be up on blue alliance ?
Ken Streeter
30-04-2012, 18:44
Newton high score:
Semis 1 Match 2 118 2194 548 vs. 181 1519 1983: 121 to 94
Might be the record combined score for all season.
I would like to watch this match, does anyone know when it will be up on blue alliance ?
Our media crew recorded full-screen video of the above match, but it will be a couple more days before I'm able to get it from them and upload it to youtube.
Even though our alliance (blue) lost the match, at least we were able to go down with a fight! It was the first match in which our alliance attempted a triple balance on the competition field -- couldn't have done it without a few minutes of practice in the pits!
Kudos are due to 548 and 118 for putting in so many baskets while 2194 played defense against the blue alliance!
rainbowdash
30-04-2012, 23:11
I saw a 119- 50some at championships, but thats's with triple balancing.
iPenguin
30-04-2012, 23:28
I thought Archimedes Finals Match 1 was exciting:
4143 67 2826 vs. 2056 4334 1114: 106-103
Might be the first dual 100+ points I saw for both alliances.
Curie:
1:36 PM Semi 1-2 341, 78, 254 vs 1885, 624, 244: 128 to 78
included a triple balance for 341, 78, 254
Just so everyone's aware, Daisy/Poofs/AirStrike had no penalties adding to the 128.
Anyone have a video of Curie SF 1-2?
Anyone have a video of Curie SF 1-2?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Tb4dP2RmA
Here is the video from The Cheesy Poofs YouTube account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Tb4dP2RmA
Anyone have a video of Curie SF 1-2?
Here it is from The Cheesy Poofs YouTube account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Tb4dP2RmA
Bob Steele
02-05-2012, 14:56
Our media crew recorded full-screen video of the above match, but it will be a couple more days before I'm able to get it from them and upload it to youtube.
Even though our alliance (blue) lost the match, at least we were able to go down with a fight! It was the first match in which our alliance attempted a triple balance on the competition field -- couldn't have done it without a few minutes of practice in the pits!
Kudos are due to 548 and 118 for putting in so many baskets while 2194 played defense against the blue alliance!
Ken,
It was an honor to team up with your team again. We had a great time and we had a great alliance. Next year we will have to team up again and get to the final!! or beyond!!
Have a great year and thank you so much for having faith in our team and picking us.
Ken Streeter
04-05-2012, 13:30
Newton high score:
Semis 1 Match 2 118 2194 548 vs. 181 1519 1983: 121 to 94
Might be the record combined score for all season.
I would like to watch this match, does anyone know when it will be up on blue alliance ?
We now have video of the above match (Newton SemiFinal 1-2) on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDf7Vb2aCU.
We have also put the other Newton elimination rounds of our alliance with 1983 and 181 on youtube as well. These can be seen on 1519's channel at http://www.youtube.com/user/FRCteam1519.
I enjoyed being able to re-watch our elimination round matches, as it reminded me of some cool moments from these rounds:
Putting up 80 basket points as an alliance in Newton QF 2-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceg6aiD6_lw).
Scoring 3 for 3 in hybrid in the same match (QF2-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceg6aiD6_lw)) by getting an additional ball from the alliance bridge. I don't recall seeing any other teams on Newton do this in competition matches -- were there teams doing this on other fields?
Coming "oh so close" in SF1-1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ-ko5bdhN8) with so many things that cost us a few points which would have turned the tide: (1) our hybrid which inexplicably didn't fire the first 2 shots from the key, instead making only the one from the alliance bridge, (2) our harvester jamming up for nearly half the match, (3) having to improvise our strategy on the fly during the match when 181's bridge tipper broke, (4) not going for the triple balance in our improvised strategy, and (5) having the referee erroneously count the only penalty in the match against blue, rather than for blue! However, I suspect that the Newton winners of 548, 118, and 2194 probably have just as many "what ifs" in the same match that would have given them even more points, too!
Knowing where and when 118 would be coming for the triple balance in SF1-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDf7Vb2aCU) and having 1983 try to slow them down just enough with a solid block so that 118 wouldn't have time to triple balance.
Pulling off a quick triple-balance (the first competition attempt for all three of our robots) on our very first try on a real field! It was thrilling to lose to the Newton Champions knowing that we had given our best in the last match we played (SF1-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDf7Vb2aCU)).
Kudos are due to the Newton Champions of 548, 118, and 2194 -- we were rooting for you out on Einstein! We're sorry we didn't get to see you on Einstein at the full strength we saw on Newton!
I'd also like to congratulate the Curie Alliance of 341, 78, 254 on their 128-point performance without the help of any penalties. Awesome job!
Scoring 3 for 3 in hybrid in the same match (QF2-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceg6aiD6_lw)) by getting an additional ball from the alliance bridge. I don't recall seeing any other teams on Newton do this in competition matches -- were there teams doing this on other fields?
We were consistently scoring 1 ball from the alliance bridge in Curie elims.
Adam Freeman
04-05-2012, 15:10
Knowing where and when 118 would be coming for the triple balance in SF1-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDf7Vb2aCU) and having 1983 try to slow them down just enough with a solid block so that 118 wouldn't have time to triple balance.
This was crazy. I was not expecting to see that while watching the video. I watched it like 3 times. 1983 looked like a linebacker catching 118 (running back) in the hole. What a hit...:yikes:
Ken Streeter
04-05-2012, 15:19
We were consistently scoring 1 ball from the alliance bridge in Curie elims.
I hadn't heard about that! Well done!
Actually, I just watched the video linked above from the 128-point match on Curie and see that 254 pulled off the 3 for 3, with a ball from the alliance bridge in that match. However, even though the ball went through the hoop just a moment before the end of hybrid (the bridge lights were still on when it dropped through), it was only scored as a 3-pointer, instead of a 6-pointer. So, by my reckoning, that 128-point match should have really been 131!
This was crazy. I was not expecting to see that while watching the video. I watched it like 3 times. 1983 looked like a linebacker catching 118 (running back) in the hole. What a hit...:yikes: I love watching that instant on the "inset view" in the upper right corner of the video!
When I congratulated Lucien of 118 on their win after that match, he was still laughing and joking about that hit -- he didn't recall 118 taking a hit quite like that one all year, and he wanted to know if it was our team that delivered it -- as much as I wanted to take credit for it, 1983 was the one to do it!
Bob Steele
04-05-2012, 15:36
That hit was one of our better moments .... we knew they were coming and had already scouted the time and the place...
It was timed really well but we regret it wasn't just a little bit harder..
They had a terrific alliance...
Elizabeth Waters
21-07-2012, 18:02
IRI, Qualification Match #104
Red Alliance: 624, 118, 16
Blue Alliance: 51, 4334, 1741
Final score: 136-59
From @frcfms on Twitter:
TY Q MC 104 RF 136 BF 59 RA 624 16 118 BA 51 4334 1741 RB 40 BB 20 RFP 6 BFP 0 RHS 36 BHS 17 RTS 54 BTS 22 CP 0
IRI, Qualification Match #104
Red Alliance: 624, 118, 16
Blue Alliance: 51, 4334, 1741
Final score: 136-59
From @frcfms on Twitter:
TY Q MC 104 RF 136 BF 59 RA 624 16 118 BA 51 4334 1741 RB 40 BB 20 RFP 6 BFP 0 RHS 36 BHS 17 RTS 54 BTS 22 CP 0
I was in the pit doing repairs and was really sad that I missed that match.
Awesome job!
Does anyone have the highest scoring matches without triple balances? Or the highest losing score? There were some crazy ones at IRI.
The highest losing score? There were some crazy ones at IRI.
I think the highest one was 103. Not sure when, it was in one of the elimination matches I think.
Norman J
23-07-2012, 15:52
I think the highest one was 103. Not sure when, it was in one of the elimination matches I think.
I believe you're talking about Quarterfinal 4-1, Alliance 3:104, Alliance 6:103.
What a match.
I believe you're talking about Quarterfinal 4-1, Alliance 3:104, Alliance 6:103.
What a match.
Yes, that's the one. And yes, fantastic match :D
Daniel Brim
23-07-2012, 16:10
I believe you're talking about Quarterfinal 4-1, Alliance 3:104, Alliance 6:103.
What a match.We have some additional footage from this match that we will be posting eventually. There may have been some problems with our forward facing GoPro (I want to get into the card before I say conclusively that the footage was lost), but we had 2 more GoPros active on the robot, as well as the one on the HockeyStickCam.
Edit: looks like our rear facing camera lost battery mid-match. Figures!
Maybe fantastic for you, but from behind the glass, it was terrifying. I believe one of the 6th alliance inbounders made a basket just before one of ours made one. I wasn't even entirely sure of the score until the official results came up.
Maybe fantastic for you, but from behind the glass, it was terrifying. I believe one of the 6th alliance inbounders made a basket just before one of ours made one. I wasn't even entirely sure of the score until the official results came up.
Wasn't any less frightening from the stands! :)
Blue had won auto, and was tied 60-60 when all 6 robots hit the bridges, meaning Blue wins. Then Red Inbounder hits a 2 -- Red is winning! Then Blue inbounder hits a 3 -- Blue is winning!! Then Red Inbounder hits another 2 -- Red wins!!!
Several fans carried out with heart failure! :ahh:
Wasn't any less frightening from the stands! :)
Blue had won auto, and was tied 60-60 when all 6 robots hit the bridges, meaning Blue wins. Then Red Inbounder hits a 2 -- Red is winning! Then Blue inbounder hits a 3 -- Blue is winning!! Then Red Inbounder hits another 2 -- Red wins!!!
Several fans carried out with heart failure! :ahh:
Even at the start of the match we were already freaking out, because our robot had run the wrong autonomous mode and we had to figure out why. It turned out that the dial switch on our robot lost a wire so it ran "3" instead of "1". That whole series was wild.
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