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Jay Meldrum
23-03-2012, 00:36
Latest test of auton at the Northville District.
http://youtu.be/3WcMOtZ-pyw
That is inspirational. Very nice job. Our team was planning on doing this from our original strategy sessions, but we never implemented it.
Is anyone working on an alliance bridge 4-ball? I have a feeling we may be seeing bots doing those at Champs.
Jared Russell
27-03-2012, 19:06
Awesome job!
Here is Team 341's 5 ball auton from the Boston Regional.
http://youtu.be/0GjQJEUgPIA?t=1m55s
akoscielski3
27-03-2012, 19:14
This is the exact thing we are trying to do :) Hopefully we can get it perfect!
Adam Freeman
27-03-2012, 19:25
Awesome job!
Here is Team 341's 5 ball auton from the Boston Regional.
http://youtu.be/0GjQJEUgPIA?t=1m55s
Jared, that was really impressive! I haven't seen any other videos of your robot on the field, I would love you see them if you have any.
We would gladly go to the alliance bridge in Hybrid if we got a chance to play with you guys at Champs. :yikes:
Jay - Get on that! ;)
MagiChau
27-03-2012, 19:38
That would be a treat, a 60 point autonomous.
Jared Russell
27-03-2012, 19:42
Jared, that was really impressive! I haven't seen any other videos of your robot on the field, I would love you see them if you have any.
We would gladly go to the alliance bridge in Hybrid if we got a chance to play with you guys at Champs. :yikes:
Jay - Get on that! ;)
Of course the video I post is the one where we don't score in teleop due to a key falling out of our tower motor :)
Some other videos of our robot from Boston are here (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21331638), but it requires some judicious fast forwarding.
O.S.S. King
27-03-2012, 19:47
Is anyone working on an alliance bridge 4-ball? I have a feeling we may be seeing bots doing those at Champs.
Our strategy was to do this but it was difficult to intake two from the bridge every time because they were not always put in the center of the bridge.
thefro526
27-03-2012, 20:28
Of course the video I post is the one where we don't score in teleop due to a key fallout out of our tower motor :)
Some other videos of our robot from Boston are here (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21331638), but it requires some judicious fast forwarding.
Jared if I may, I'm pretty fond of this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96hYn6hwPCU&feature=channel
Might be because of the battle for the center bridge in auton, or because you guys were nailing shots left and right...
To the two teams that have shown the 5 ball auton-
What have you been doing to make sure the balls are placed on the bridge in a position in which they can be picked up?
At our regional, as well as webcasts, I have seen that the field reset teams likes to put the balls on the bridge in funny patterns and not very uniformly at all.
If you ask nicely, do they line them up for you?
Joe Ross
27-03-2012, 21:04
If you ask nicely, do they line them up for you?
They should.
Game - The Game » Pre-Match » G05
Q. 1) The field reset crew can place the balls in any of the 15 locations that "they" (the field reset crew member) wants or 2) will there be a ball randomizer, similar to 2008? If 1 they could place the balls in the center for all of Team XXXX's matches and on opposite sides for Team YYYY's matches? FRC2337 2012-01-20
A. No, there will be no randomizer. The placement will generally be as close to the center of the Bridge as possible."
Game - The Game » Pre-Match » G05
Q. In a prior Q&A response, you said that prior to the beginning of the match, "The placement [of balls on the bridges] will generally be as close to the center of the Bridge as possible." Is this the center lengthwise, widthwise, or both? FRC0341 2012-01-31
A. Both
waialua359
27-03-2012, 21:33
We have an auto mode that races to the bridge first to knock down balls first, then go back and shoot from right above the key using auto aim.
While it may not be as impressive as a 5 shot auto mode, and many will be able to do this, ........it might be the only alternative from preventing an opposing alliance like this kill you before teleop starts.
Jay Meldrum
27-03-2012, 22:45
Awesome job!
Here is Team 341's 5 ball auton from the Boston Regional.
http://youtu.be/0GjQJEUgPIA?t=1m55s
WOW! Very impressive! With much time to spare.
Are you guys auto aiming your last 3 shots or just driving super straight?
Adam: Looks like they are setting up at the top of the key... ;)
The Lucas
27-03-2012, 23:43
They should.
Basically every placement of 2 balls on a bridge I have seen leaves the absolute center spot of the grid open (for symmetry I guess). By the Q&A rulings Joe posted, that spot should be filled first and the 4 adjacent spots filled next. I was expecting this as part of autonomous strategy going into week 1 but it seems no event (I have seen) is really following it.
thefro526
28-03-2012, 07:38
Basically every placement of 2 balls on a bridge I have seen leaves the absolute center spot of the grid open (for symmetry I guess). By the Q&A rulings Joe posted, that spot should be filled first and the 4 adjacent spots filled next. I was expecting this as part of autonomous strategy going into week 1 but it seems no event (I have seen) is really following it.
Brian, I've also seen the same thing. One ball on either side of the center spot when there are Two Balls, The center spot is filled when there are three, a Diamond pattern when there are four and so on.... But I did notice that Some events, primarily on the west coast like to make a sort of 'Ball Blob' when there are more than 4 balls, they're just sort of placed on the bridge in a pile.
Jared Russell
28-03-2012, 08:23
WOW! Very impressive! With much time to spare.
Are you guys auto aiming your last 3 shots or just driving super straight?
Adam: Looks like they are setting up at the top of the key... ;)
We are auto aiming all 5 shots (every shot we have taken in hybrid or teleop in the 52 matches we have played has been auto-aimed). We aren't always so quick to fire the second batch, it depends how straight we drove (hence how much adjustment is needed). #5 is usually out by 13 or 14 seconds though.
Dan_Karol
28-03-2012, 20:35
Now, if only one of these teams figured out how to go to their alliance bridge and convince FIRST to let them play in the same division....
Now, if only one of these teams figured out how to go to their alliance bridge and convince FIRST to let them play in the same division....IRI.
pfreivald
29-03-2012, 07:02
Just astounding. It's amazing to see how teams raise the bar to the point that the roof has to be raised just to fit the new bar position. Well done!
Adam Freeman
29-03-2012, 07:49
IRI.
If given the opportunity to play at MSC or Championship Division, with someone that can go the the Coop bridge, we will be ready to grab balls from the alliance bridge. :eek:
I think 2056 already drives to it, not sure if they have grabbed balls off of the alliance bridge or not.
If given the opportunity to play at MSC or Championship Division, with someone that can go the the Coop bridge, we will be ready to grab balls from the alliance bridge. :eek:
1986, at least grabs them. It shouldn't be a huge stretch to shoot as well.
Jay Meldrum
01-04-2012, 20:14
If given the opportunity to play at MSC or Championship Division, with someone that can go the the Coop bridge, we will be ready to grab balls from the alliance bridge
...and TRY to shoot them :ahh:
Really wish they would give auton more than 15 seconds.
Team 3322 simply shoots two balls and backs into the bridge, gathering and shooting as many balls as possible.
HOT, your autonomous is scary. I don't want to be against that at MSC.;)
stingray27
01-04-2012, 21:17
If given the opportunity to play at MSC or Championship Division, with someone that can go the the Coop bridge, we will be ready to grab balls from the alliance bridge. :eek:
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Team RUSH shoots 2, gets the bridge balls, returns and attempts to shoot more if time allows. So hopefully if partnered with you guys during a match, you have an auton that will be able to do that, because that would be awesome. Looking forward to play with/against you at MSC
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