2012 Greater Toronto Regional West [Archive]

Gregor

26-03-2012, 22:57

ya, thank god. Last year me and the other driver had to travel the 4 hours to Toronto to start practicing, after writing our test... that was soo fun -.-
You'd think the Government that Sponsors/supports FIRST would plan it on another day... even Wednesday instead.

Haha that would be nice.

I guess I will see you thursday. Feel free to stick your head in our pit anytime and say hi.

CONGRATZ on your regional win by the way. You are only 1 of 4 teams coming to west with a 2012 win under their belts, and the only one who wasn't on the same alliance as each other. =D

akoscielski3

26-03-2012, 23:04

Haha that would be nice.

I guess I will see you thursday. Feel free to stick your head in our pit anytime and say hi.

CONGRATZ on your regional win by the way. You are only 1 of 4 teams coming to west with a 2012 win under their belts, and the only one who wasn't on the same alliance as each other. =D

I'll probably be pretty busy to go around, but if u wanted u can come to ours :)

And thanks! :D We were sooo happy to finally get that regional win! First time ever! :) We are also the Only team coming into GTR West Undefeated :D! Lets see if we come out with that too :o

Gregor

26-03-2012, 23:05

I'll probably be pretty busy to go around, but if u wanted u can come to ours :)

And thanks! :D We were sooo happy to finally get that regional win! First time ever! :) We are also the Only team coming into GTR West Undefeated :D! Lets see if we come out with that too :o

Not if I can help it =P

akoscielski3

29-03-2012, 22:57

Well that was a fun first day... Field was absolutely terrible for a while until Karthik found out what was wrong :) Thanks Karthik! (if it was actually someone else who discovered the problem THANKS!)

We were having a difficult time getting used to the changes we made. But i think we are all good. Just finishing up the autonomous tomorrow, and we are all good :D

Good luck to everyone else :D!

Team 3705

30-03-2012, 20:03

anyone know where I can watch the videos for the matches today?

mhat_ios

30-03-2012, 20:13

anyone know where I can watch the videos for the matches today?

try "watchfirstnow.com" (or look up "watch FIRST now")

Lol. it is the one that lags the least, so you will probably get the best video.

akoscielski3

30-03-2012, 21:28

Gregor

30-03-2012, 21:31

WHO ELSE HAD A REALLY BAD DAY!?

i'll make a list of everything that went wrong for us:
- Kept getting disconnected from C-Rio (swapped out C-Rio to new type)
- Blew Victor on Shooter...
- Jamming Poly-Cord
- Poly-Cord traveling on rollers
- Balls kept jamming because of Poly-Cord problems
- Blew feeder fuses
- I think im missing some stuff -.-

No longer are an undefeated team, but oh well... :P

If anyone ask's its Karthiks fault ;) lol

His "closing time" song yesterday in the pits made the robots angry and they have decided not to cooperate (coopertate?).

But seriously, I'm sure you will be able to pull together tomorrow. Just keep at it. If you need any help or tools or anything, feel free to ask :D

akoscielski3

30-03-2012, 21:33

His "closing time" song yesterday in the pits made the robots angry and they have decided not to cooperate (coopertate?).

But seriously, I'm sure you will be able to pull together tomorrow. Just keep at it. If you need any help or tools or anything, feel free to ask :D

lol thanks :) I hope we can, or we are doomed. Everything should be good, but i dont know...
Thanks for the offer, but we have everything we need just need to get it all to work :)

Good luck tomorrow :D

Gregor

30-03-2012, 21:35

lol thanks :) I hope we can, or we are doomed. Everything should be good, but i dont know...
Thanks for the offer, but we have everything we need just need to get it all to work :)

Good luck tomorrow :D

Aha ok thanks. And good luck to you!

Jim Wilks

30-03-2012, 21:37

WHO ELSE HAD A REALLY BAD DAY!?

Aaron:

I could see that you folks were not having a good day and I feel for you. We've been there many times too.

Hopefully, things will come together for your team tomorrow.

Any help needed, just ask.

akoscielski3

30-03-2012, 21:52

Aaron:

I could see that you folks were not having a good day and I feel for you. We've been there many times too.

Hopefully, things will come together for your team tomorrow.

Any help needed, just ask.

Thanks :P after our second loss i just didn't care that much, wasn't gonna let the losses bother me and just improve the bot for champs and Queen City. I'm with the team right now... they are painting my other drivers toe nails lol :) *shakes head*

And do u have any advice for Poly-Cord? our poly cord has been the biggest problem. and im thinking we need to take some out. we have way to many pieces IMO.

Thanks guys

stundt1

30-03-2012, 22:04

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And do u have any advice for Poly-Cord? our poly cord has been the biggest problem. and im thinking we need to take some out. we have way to many pieces IMO.

Whats wrong with your poly cord? Does it keep breaking? What kind of poly cord did you get? How did you connect the ends?

akoscielski3

30-03-2012, 22:08

Whats wrong with your poly cord? Does it keep breaking? What kind of poly cord did you get? How did you connect the ends?

We are using yellow Polycord from Mccmaster-Carr (hollow). and using the metal connectors. which we were told that that was our problem. but then it also travels. it hasn't broken.

Racer26

30-03-2012, 22:18

Bochek

30-03-2012, 23:10

shawnz

30-03-2012, 23:22

Something is wonky in the scoring system about Q62.

The 6 teams in Q62 do not show a win or loss for that match, despite the match results showing blue alliance winning, 18-0.

Anybody know whats going on here? Its having a big impact on the top of the standings because 1241 is showing as 8th when they should be 5th or 3rd depending on if that match had a coop bridge.

The co-op bridge seemed to be behaving dodgy after it was rammed near the end of the day. I don't know if this is related or not, nor if you were there to see it, but parts were seemingly removed from the bottom and it appeared to be without power for the rest of the day IIRC. The match number seems about right to potentially coincide.

Team 3705

30-03-2012, 23:31

haha...we had an programming error that got us one loss... I am really looking forward to tomorrow. I am really disappointed..at myself.
We have what I believe is a really good drive team and coach.

We finally did double bridge balancing, maybe tomorrow we will pull of a triple?

shawnz

30-03-2012, 23:33

I am really disappointed..at myself.

pah... for the one line of code that had a bug, how many didn't? :p

Team 3705

30-03-2012, 23:41

pah... for the one line of code that had a bug, how many didn't? :p

Our shooter was overshooting, and I knew it would happen :(, really screwed up just about everything... XD
Atleast we can still get the balls from the ramp, and get up the bridge..But still...

But man, did 772 have some bad luck! Good luck to you guys..nice pit btw..lol

Travis Hoffman

31-03-2012, 05:33

His "closing time" song yesterday in the pits

Oh no he didn't...

This song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAS-pvQ06s4

Good advice in that song - "Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end"...so Aaron, it's a new day!

Polycord walking - looking at your bot pic on CD, it does seem you might be running more belts than you need. We run no more than 4 belt loops (solid core) on any roller, with very good results.

We run two belts on the outside that "cradle" each side of the ball and two closer together along the centerline (sorry...centreline) of the ball that provide primary propulsion. You can see this belt layout in this photo - http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37489

How deep are your grooves (how deeeeep aree yourr grooves I realllly neeed to learrrrrrn...)? You probably can't (easily) make the grooves themselves deeper at competition, but maybe removing some belts and attaching some loops of suitable material around the roller on each side of the remaining active grooves may help keep the belts in place? Many teams like to use wheel tread material like wedgetop or roughtop for this application.

Finally, I've got no experience with hollow polycord (I've heard you don't want to be around the metal barbs if a belt ever breaks - sharp little suckers!), but could your belts stand to be cut down a bit and rejoined to add a little more tension? I know belts do stretch over time - we had to trim an inch off of our belts and re-weld in Wisconsin. This solved some shooting consistency and jamming issues we observed in qualifying. Just remember - belts that are too loose are prone to walking and letting balls jam up the system. However, belts too tight can bog down rollers and put greater load on your conveyor motor(s) - for reference, a single RS-550 into a Banebots 26:1 gearbox powers our conveyor. Finding the perfect tension is key to effective conveyor performance.

I hope this gives you some ideas. Good luck today!

JamesC

31-03-2012, 08:09

lemiant

31-03-2012, 10:57

Idk if anyone else is watching the standings, but I just want to point out it seems pretty likely 2056 refused to coop. (Disclaimer: I wasn't on the floor, I'm just guessing).
Also, am I crazy or was 3933 helping the blue defenders?

I like this game, the end of Qualifications is so exciting :yikes:

Bongle

31-03-2012, 11:09

If 1114 either loses (unlikely) or fails to get CPs in their last match, then 3161 has a shot at leapfrogging them in the standings with a win and a CP (or just 2 QPs and 43 points in hybrid).

Matches to watch, in order for a non-1114/2056 top seed:
Q89: 3161 needs to win and cooperate (OPRNet call: 3161's alliance wins 48-34)
Q90: 1114 needs to get fewer than 4 QPs (OPRNet call: 1114's alliance wins 49-4)

Big shout-out to 3161 for managing to cooperate in every single one of their matches so far this weekend, and for having a pretty awesome robot too.

It's going to come down to their last match to clinch top seed for 1114 again. Rebound rumble's seeding system is fantastic - it makes it so exciting.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 11:31

All eyes on the co-op bridge in the next game. 3161 is first seed, and could potentially break up the so far dominating [potential] alliance of 1114 & 2056.

I sincerely hope there are no shenanigans going on, this is probably the most likely time for something like a GTR-E repeat to happen unfortunately.

EDIT: No one tried to balance with 1114. I don't know what to say. The teams were perfectly entitled to do it, but it's not something I personally like to see.

Bongle

31-03-2012, 11:41

And it looks like the opposing alliance didn't cooperate with 1114, so these will be amazing elimination rounds. Barring some unusualness in alliance selection, we'll have 1114 and 2056 on separate teams. 1114's 8-regional streak or 2056's 13-regional streak will come to an end.

Racer26

31-03-2012, 11:42

Or both, if say 188/907 can take them.both out.

David13

31-03-2012, 11:44

Congratulations 3161 on making history! Good luck in eliminations!

Racer26

31-03-2012, 11:44

I think the unintended meta coopertating, and the effect of the triple balance has made rebound rumble the most balanced game in my 10 years of FRC. The powerhouses still have to work really hard to secure victory

Bongle

31-03-2012, 11:49

EDIT: No one tried to balance with 1114. I don't know what to say. The teams were perfectly entitled to do it, but it's not something I personally like to see.
I'd say it was fine strategy - none of the 3 opposing teams had much to gain from 2QPs (it wouldn't have moved any of them into a picking position), but they gained from the splitting of 1114 and 2056 since it means there might be 2-3 viable elimination alliances on which they could be 2nd or 3rd robots, rather than the 1 viable elimination alliance of 1114/2056. I just hope they told 1114 ahead of time their plans, rather than leaving 1114 at the altar like what appears to have happened*.

*Although that is just speculation - even if they told 1114 that they weren't going to cooperate ahead of time, it would still make sense for 1114 to get on the bridge once the outcome wasn't in doubt just in case one of them changed their mind.

Even if they don't get selected, they get to watch the sweet fireworks that will be a competitive elimination round in Ontario. We haven't had one of those since 2009.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 11:52

There are plenty of great shooters at GTR-W, I think 1114 might reject 3161 [if offered]. The question is whether they pick 2056 next just to protect against the potential alliance, or they go for another shooter, maybe a triple balance team...

Racer26

31-03-2012, 11:54

Nah 3161 asks 2056 first, then 1114.

lemiant

31-03-2012, 12:00

EDIT: Ok so this is what I'm guessing for the top 4 alliances:
3161/2056
1114/188
1241/907
1310/1334

There are plenty of great shooters at GTR-W, I think 1114 might reject 3161 [if offered]. The question is whether they pick 2056 next just to protect against the potential alliance, or they go for another shooter, maybe a triple balance team...

3161 is actually ranked 11th in the global OPR rankings (that's three spots below 1114), so theoretically they are definitely good enough to be first seed (and to be accepted by 1114).
I think they will definitely ask both 1114/2056 before moving on, just by reflex. (Because otherwise ranking first was worthless).

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 12:08

3161 is actually ranked 11th in the global OPR rankings (that's three spots below 1114), so theoretically they are definitely good enough to be first seed (and to be accepted by 1114).
I think they will definitely ask both 1114/2056 before moving on, just by reflex. (Because otherwise ranking first was worthless).

There are a lot of great teams, which is why elims was always going to be interesting whether 1114 was first or not. 2056 have a stinger-like thing, and I do think 3161 will also ask one/both because it's too big a risk not too, but I would have fancied another one of these potential alliances to take on a 1114/2056 alliance, especially if they could triple balance.

Just to re-iterate, what happened in the last match does not clearly violate any FIRST value, and 3161 earned their first place by co-oping in every single match, but personally it would leave a bad taste in my mouth if our team had refused to co-op.

3161 and 1114 together. Ooh interesting.

PayneTrain

31-03-2012, 12:12

1114 took the offer as they should have. That will give them the best chance to win.
OP may be playing with fire by settling for 7th, but we'll see.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 12:17

I don't remember 4001, but with 2056's 'stinger' are they building a triple team?

But these elims are shaping up very nicely.

Racer26

31-03-2012, 12:48

Nick Lawrence

31-03-2012, 12:50

I'm having a hard time with 2056 declining 1241 from so low. I think the previous commenter is correct, they're playing with fire.

I'm a little surprised 1114 didnt decline 3161 because of their elims performance suffering from defense.

It looks like 2056 built themselves a 2 wide bot alliance.

Guess they're gonna score like mad then triple balance. it could take them to the finals.

-Nick

PayneTrain

31-03-2012, 12:51

I'm having a hard time with 2056 declining 1241 from so low. I think the previous commenter is correct, they're playing with fire.

I'm a little surprised 1114 didnt decline 3161 because of their elims performance suffering from defense.

It's a pure numbers play. 1114 knows from Waterloo that you cna just shove basket points down the other alliances' throats and they can't recover. Two of the highest global OPRs on the same team must be unstoppable, even against wellcoordinated defense.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 12:56

It looks like 2056 built themselves a 2 wide bot alliance.

Guess they're gonna score like mad then triple balance. it could take them to the finals.

-Nick

It could win them the regional. Anyone know anything about 1075 [188's first pick]? Are we going to have a triple balance face-off QF?

I think 1114 played it safe. They are still favorites.

Bongle

31-03-2012, 12:56

It's a pure numbers play. 1114 knows from Waterloo that you cna just shove basket points down the other alliances' throats and they can't recover. Two of the highest global OPRs on the same team must be unstoppable, even against wellcoordinated defense.

3161 and 3683 last week were on the same alliance (combined alliance OPR: 57, compared to 1114/2056 with 63), and were taken out by the #6 alliance (combined alliance OPR: 20ish) in the quarterfinals. Despite me being the OPRNet maintainer, I gotta say OPR isn't everything.

If the opposition sends a defenderbot to fiddle with ball pickup and get in 3161's way, then the #1 alliance will probably be down to just 1114 scoring. If the defender bot then manages to impede them from bridging, it could be 2 bots to 1 balanced (this strategy is what happened in waterloo quarterfinals last week).

These eliminations are going to be sooo good. I'm hoping for 1114 vs 2056 in the finals, that'd be epic. 2056 will have a tough battle getting through 188 though.

Duncan Macdonald

31-03-2012, 13:21

3161 and 3683 last week were on the same alliance (combined alliance OPR: 57, compared to 1114/2056 with 63), and were taken out by the #6 alliance (combined alliance OPR: 20ish) in the quarterfinals. Despite me being the OPRNet maintainer, I gotta say OPR isn't everything.

There's a reason we still play the matches:cool:

lemiant

31-03-2012, 13:32

I'm a little surprised 1114 didnt decline 3161 because of their elims performance suffering from defense.
I think they did it to gain an advantage over 2056. In my mind they would have had a better alliance with 188, but they accepted 3161 so that 2056 wouldn't get them. Good call? We'll find out.

Azores

31-03-2012, 14:35

I'm having a hard time with 2056 declining 1241 from so low. I think the previous commenter is correct, they're playing with fire.

I'm a little surprised 1114 didnt decline 3161 because of their elims performance suffering from defense.

We didn't go into selections without any kind of discussion about who we wanted, you know... :)

bam-bam

31-03-2012, 14:43

It looks like 2056 built themselves a 2 wide bot alliance.

Guess they're gonna score like mad then triple balance. it could take them to the finals.

-Nick

Just triple balanced. 2056 sent 2200 to play defense and had 4001 act as a deadweight.

Bongle

31-03-2012, 14:53

There's a reason we still play the matches:cool:

To produce the OPR matrices, right? :p

Racer26

31-03-2012, 15:03

I'm fully aware that strong teams like 3161, 1114, and 2056 all have lots of strategy and discussions. I've watched them all play for the last 10 years, and have gained a pretty good handle on strategy. I can usually predict picks and declines with a reasonable level of accuracy. I'm a little surprised by a few decisions here is all, including 188's pick of us.

Racer26

31-03-2012, 15:14

SF2.1... Shouldnt 1241 have gotten 49pt penalty for interfering with the blue alliances triple?

Bongle

31-03-2012, 15:16

The feed died. HELP! We just noticed that 1241/907's alliance won a match against 2056 and want to watch.

Edit: back, thanks 2200!

EricH

31-03-2012, 15:17

SF2.1... Shouldnt 1241 have gotten 49pt penalty for interfering with the blue alliances triple?
Actually, that's a Red Card on top of the T-foul and balanced bridge if balancing is interfered with.

I didn't see the match, so I can't comment either way. Though I would guess that someone might be asking the ref anyway.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 15:18

Stream is back. I didn't see the alleged interfering, was there a call?

Racer26

31-03-2012, 15:22

Youtube.com/watchfirstnow probably has a recording of it up

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 15:25

EDIT:
It's 2056 vs 1114!

Not to be disrespectful to the other teams, it's actually 3161/1114/2634 vs 2056/4001/2200. 1st vs 6th.

I haven't watched Canada too carefully, but I think any qualification matches between 2056 and 1114 has gone 1114's way, and they are the stronger alliance, have a slightly more consistent triple and a better auto. However, 2200 and 4001 have played some great defence in the semis, so they might pose a threat that the 1st seed haven't seen before.

I'm looking forward to it.

fox46

31-03-2012, 15:45

This is going to be an incredible final round!

GCentola

31-03-2012, 15:51

This is going to be an incredible final round!

Defintiely! I think this has been something we have all been waiting for. 1114 and 2056 split, and then end up against each other. Will 2056's record be toppled?

basicxman

31-03-2012, 15:55

Finals are happening at GTR West right now! Join over 400 viewers at http://watchfirstnow.com

3161/1114/907 vs 2056/2200/4001

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:00

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

GCentola

31-03-2012, 16:01

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

yes. it was incredibly epic, as usual!

stundt1

31-03-2012, 16:02

What an epic match.!!!!

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:02

I agree, it was an awesome first match.

Rangel(kf7fdb)

31-03-2012, 16:02

That was the best match I have seen this year!

1986titans

31-03-2012, 16:02

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

If that speech didn't get you excited for the finals, I don't know what could. :p

scottandme

31-03-2012, 16:03

nobody from the red alliance playing defense on 2056's fender shooting?

biancs15

31-03-2012, 16:03

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

I do agree. Such an exiting finals and its only 1 match in!!
I cant confirm, but is that the highest combined score so far?

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 16:03

WOW.

Karthik's build-up was amazing, the match was amazing, the finish was amazing.

That's probably the highest scoring match so far [in combination].

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:03

That was the best match I have seen this year!

Yup. that is for sure.

would have been even more awesome if there was a double-triple balance.

Racer26

31-03-2012, 16:04

Finals 1: 191: highest combined alliance score of 2012? 102-89

stundt1

31-03-2012, 16:04

Who are you guys rooting for?

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:05

Finals 1: 191: highest combined alliance score of 2012? 102-89

Yup. The previous was somewhere in the 150's or 160's. Did not expect any less from these two alliances. Just wait for a double-triple balance.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 16:09

Who are you guys rooting for?

I'm personally a big fan of records, so I'm cheering on 2056 [as I have been all regional]. And they're technically the underdogs.

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:11

I do agree. Such an exiting finals and its only 1 match in!!
I cant confirm, but is that the highest combined score so far?

152 used to be the max total score for single match; Match E19 at Waterford. Now dethroned by F1.

there you go austin.

-Michael

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 16:16

The second one wasn't as exciting [1114 died and 2634 was flipped], but congratulations 2056/2200/4001. Their record goes on!

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 16:18

Congrats to 2056, 4001, and 2200. You guys were truly unbelievable to watch on the live feed. Congrats on keeping the streak going 2056! Great played, and exciting finals for both alliances. To 1114, 3161 and 2634, you guys formed an epic alliance, that fought hard, and got a little unlucky, but still played all out, and you should all be very proud of yourselves. The entire tournament was also very amazing. It was so fun to watch. Every team put on a show in the qualifiers, and the eliminations were even more awe-inspiring.

Regards,
Michael

EricH

31-03-2012, 16:20

The pebble has been taken from 1114's hand.

Diriye

31-03-2012, 16:22

The two finals matches at GTR-West: 342 points

The first 10 qualifying matches combined at GTR-West: 352 points.

Incredible performances all around.

sgreco

31-03-2012, 16:24

2056 is beast. Period.

Racer26

31-03-2012, 16:25

Karthik really isnt kidding. Ontario, not MI, CA, IN or CT, is the home turf of the best FRC robot builders in the world.

I'm starting to see more and more of Ontario's second tier travelling to faraway lands where they don't have to play second fiddle to 1114 and 2056, and coming home with hardware. See 772 in TN, and 610 in AZ, and 188 in OH.

Their high-end influence has risen the bar in Ontario, and the second tier is becoming much stronger for it. Most finalist alliances from Toronto or Waterloo from the last 5 years could win most other places.

stundt1

31-03-2012, 16:26

Congrats to the winners of the regional.

Starke

31-03-2012, 16:28

2056 is beast. Period.

1114 didn't move in Finals Match 2. Period*

*I agree with you, but there were other circumstances as well.

hammerhead_399

31-03-2012, 16:41

Starke

31-03-2012, 16:44

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Thanks for perfectly stating what I am thinking! Totally agree!

EpicLegacy

31-03-2012, 16:46

Congrats to the winning alliance. That was incredible.

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Still, what a set of exciting finals matches.

I would have loved to see a 3 match finals round, rather than the second match with a tipped bot and a dead bot...

but still congrats to 2056 on keeping there winning streak alive and to 2200 and 4001 for playing some great defense and doing some great balancing. good luck to all at the championships.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 16:53

Congrats to the winning alliance. That was incredible.

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Still, what a set of exciting finals matches.

To be fair to 2056/4001/2200, they did win one match where everything was square.

But yes, it would have been more exciting to see everything fully functioning.

Starke

31-03-2012, 16:55

And 1114 died towards the end didn't they, or am I misremembering?

1114 died right after hybrid. Might have even been during hybrid.

thefro526

31-03-2012, 17:05

To be fair to 2056/4001/2200, they did win one match where everything was square.

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

Nawaid Ladak

31-03-2012, 17:17

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

I'm still one who thinks this was the best intro I've ever seen:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2007wat_f1m1
2007 Waterloo Regional Finals.

A huge congrats to 2056, 4001 and 2200 for winning one of the greatest finals at a regional even in FIRST History and winning the Greater Toronto West Regional. Congrats also goes out to 1114, 3161 and 2634 for putting on one of the greatest shows in those finals that FIRST has ever seen.

EpicLegacy

31-03-2012, 17:20

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

I agree with 1114 being the better team overall as they were the 1st seed at both GTR east and Waterloo and very close at this event. However the only thing I have to point out is although 2056 is shooting mostly from the fender they have the ability to shoot from the key according to their specs on their website http://www.2056.ca/robot/general-lee.

and yes I agree the 1st match of those finals is the best match I have seen.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 17:22

1114 died right after hybrid. Might have even been during hybrid.

I see. Cheers for the correction.

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

1114's alliance didn't balance and 2056 alliance did. Fair game in my opinion, the triple will always risk a tip. I agree that I think their alliance was the stronger one [I think a lot of the 9 points came from the hybrid difference], but at the same time they played no defence on 2056, which surprised me.

I also thought 1114 is a stronger robot than 2056, although I'm not so sure about that anymore. They're pretty close.

To weigh the two: 2056 can score from the key, they did it in one of the elims. I'm not so sure how accurate they are, but the time I saw they banked all the balls. 2056 also has a multi-ball auto if they use it, I haven't yet seen 1114 use one but they might also have it. 2056 however is slightly slower at shooting/getting in to position, and sometimes balls spill out from their robot when they drive around. Also, 1114 are better at balancing and co-op balancing, partly due to their claw mechanism. I think 1114 is a better qualification match bot, but it's close when it comes to elims.

As I said, I think that's the first time they've faced off this season [in qualis] where 1114 lost.

But they're frighteningly good robots, and what someone said about the quality in Canada is true. This is the first year where I've properly watched other regionals, and there are some seriously strong teams in Canada.

TheMadCADer

31-03-2012, 17:26

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless. :D

mhat_ios

31-03-2012, 17:29

I'm still one who thinks this was the best intro I've ever seen:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2007wat_f1m1
2007 Waterloo Regional Finals.

A huge congrats to 2056, 4001 and 2200 for winning one of the greatest finals at a regional even in FIRST History and winning the Greater Toronto West Regional. Congrats also goes out to 1114, 3161 and 2634 for putting on one of the greatest shows in those finals that FIRST has ever seen.

Wow. That is close, it is really hard to decide which one is better. Karthik seemed more confident in this year's one, but i like what he did with the medals in the '07 intro. Why is he so good at this stuff?!?!?!?!?

-Michael

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 17:33

Wow. That is close, it is really hard to decide which one is better. Karthik seemed more confident in this year's one, but i like what he did with the medals in the '07 intro. Why is he so good at this stuff?!?!?!?!?

-Michael

He has a knowledge of the teams and the FIRST experience unlike any other MC I've seen.

SamMullen

31-03-2012, 17:54

For those of us who missed watching the finals matches, does anyone have a link to a video?

Nawaid Ladak

31-03-2012, 18:00

For those of us who missed watching the finals matches, does anyone have a link to a video?

Finals 1.1
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501483

Finals 1.2
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501857

EDIT: I just realized this is my 1000th post. Hooray for me

SamMullen

31-03-2012, 18:01

Thanks!

Racer26

31-03-2012, 18:27

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless. :D

This is the first time 2056 has ever played a regional elimination match wearing blue bumpers. (EDIT: If you don't count the days before bumper color was the alliance marker)

They've won from the #1 alliance at each of their past 13 wins.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 18:43

They have also posted the new highest score this year for the blue alliance. See post below for correction who.

RMiller

31-03-2012, 18:48

They have also posted the new highest score this year for the blue alliance, taking over from [I believe] 228/1884/549's score of 83 at WPI.

48/269/2826 had 98 in both finals matches in Wisconsin.
F1.1 also had 175 points scored between the two alliances in Wisconsin. Only thirty of those points were from the bridge.

George Nishimura

31-03-2012, 19:10

48/269/2826 had 98 in both finals matches in Wisconsin.
F1.1 also had 175 points scored between the two alliances in Wisconsin. Only thirty of those points were from the bridge.

My sources were wrong. I will edit.

basicxman

31-03-2012, 19:26

On behalf of 2200, thanks for all the congrats and a huge thanks to our alliance partners 2056 and 4001.

Shout out to our awesome sponsors, particularly GitHub (http://github.com) and the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 67, and Boca Bearings (http://bocabearings.com/).

EDIT: We'll have the matches up on YouTube ASAP, they're currently on our ustream channel.

Karthik

31-03-2012, 20:39

I think they did it to screw 2056. In my mind they would have had a better alliance with 188, but they accepted 3161 so that 2056 wouldn't get them and would instead get stuck with 1241 or as a low captain. Good call? We'll find out.

I have a lot more to say about this amazing regional, but I wanted to address this comment directy.

We at 1114 never do anything "to screw" anyone, let alone our friends at Team 2056. We accepted Team 3161 because they have an amazing robot and were great partners for us. It's as simple as that. Also, Team 1241 has a great robot, no one would be "stuck" with them.

Taylor

31-03-2012, 21:05

I have to give kudos to the DJ. The music during finals certainly added to the excitement and drama. Well done.

Ravage457

31-03-2012, 21:43

It was an awesome regional, two great alliances had an awesome finals

lemiant

31-03-2012, 22:11

I have a lot more to say about this amazing regional, but I wanted to address this comment directy.

I want to open this by saying I was really impressed by this regional as a whole and by 1114s performance. It was the most fun I've ever had watching a regional, I'm excited to hear what else you have to say :).

In regards to my comments, I regret that I used such offensive language (and I have changed it), but the logic is not deserving of reprimand. I could never claim to have a better understanding of the decisions made by 1114 than you, but I believe that in absence of your reasoning, my assumptions were certainly solid.

We at 1114 never do anything "to screw" anyone, let alone our friends at Team 2056. We accepted Team 3161 because they have an amazing robot and were great partners for us. It's as simple as that.
If we look at your alliance in a vacuum, while 3161 is certainly a great partner, objectively 188 had a higher OPR, a better record of triple balancing, a higher combined HP/BP/TP and more wins as well as experience. Subjectively they seemed to be more effective at scoring under defense. With this in mind it seemed likely that 1114 accepted not necessarily to make the strongest alliance possible, but to ensure that their opposition would have a harder climb.
From what I can glean from recorded matches it seems this analysis is born out in the matches. In the quarter finals 188 outscored 3161 by 6 in Autonomous and 21 in Teleop.

Also, Team 1241 has a great robot, no one would be "stuck" with them.
While I respect team 1241, they were not the best alliance partner for 2056. Something you'd have a hard time disagreeing with, when 2056 stated it in the most meaningful way, by declining them.

nikeairmancurry

31-03-2012, 22:27

One thing I noticed about the F.1 match was that not only did the red alliance outscore the blue in teleop, but 1114 did most of it with lots of traffic. At one point 1114 was trying to move and gather balls with 4 other teams in their zone, while 2056 mainly left alone. This isn't meant to take anything away from what they did, but I think what 1114 did to keep that match close was by far amazing.

Karthik

31-03-2012, 22:30

In regards to my comments, my language was probably overstated, but the logic is not deserving of reprimand.

The language was what myself and many others took issue with. It's not always what you say, but how you say it.

Justin Montois

31-03-2012, 22:31

...With this in mind it seemed likely that 1114 accepted not necessarily to make the strongest alliance possible, but to ensure that their opposition would have a harder climb.

......

So, according to your logic, ensuring that everyone else at the regional has a harder time winning somehow means 1114 did not make the strongest alliance?

Furthermore, If you saw any if the interaction during the elimination rounds between 1114 and 2056 off the field you would know that both teams wanted nothing but the best for the other. Those two have the strongest partnership in FIRST. There was no "screwing over" going on.

LeelandS

31-03-2012, 22:48

For years, people have questioned the legitimacy of 2056's winning streak. I've seen many people say that they've only remained undefeated because they always have the best partner at the regional backing them up (be it 1114 or another), and that can certainly be one of the reasons. But they've always built an outstanding robot to earn the right to have those partners.

Today, I think 2056 proved that they don't need the best partner at the regional to go the distance. No offense to 2200 or 4001, as they certainly proved to be great partners to OP Robotics, but 2056 was definitely in a league of their own amongst many of the Greater Toronto West Teams. They proved they don't need one of the Canadian powerhouses alongside them to take a regional. A lot of people are going to argue that they didn't deserve the win, because the opposing alliance wasn't necessarily at 100%. And that may be true. But the record books will forever show that 2056 won a regional without a powerhouse alongside them. In my humble opinion, 2056 has stepped out from the shadow of their recurring partners, 1114, and has reached the same level as the Simbots and, arguably, ascended even higher.

On another note, with the whole "1114 tried to screw 2056" thing, I know that 1114 will never build anything less than the best alliance they can. They wouldn't even consider an offer from a team if they didn't think they had a strong chance of winning the event with them, or they were backed into a corner into accepting (being ranked low and declining would mean no eliminations). 3161 came amazingly close to taking the #1 seed at Greater Toronto East, and it's no coincidence that they took it this time. They are one of the strongest Canadian teams out there right now. And though they may not be as strong as 1114 or 2056, I certainly wouldn't argue with 1114's decision to accept. Were 1114 to decline, 3161 would have certainly made 2056 their next choice. If they'd accepted, they would have still had a great chance of winning. If they'd declined, 3161 would get their pick of the next strongest team, and 1114 and 2056 would still be split, since 1114 wouldn't be able to pick 2056. 1114 made a smart move accepting 3161's offer. Declining would have been a poorly thought-out decision. And 1114 always thinks their moves through all the way.

lemiant

31-03-2012, 23:12

So, according to your logic, ensuring that everyone else at the regional has a harder time winning somehow means 1114 did not make the strongest alliance?
I was not making a judgement about 1114, I would also aim to ensure that my alliance had the best chance of winning. I was merely making the observation that in this instance 1114 was best served by taking an opportunity away from their strongest opposition.

Furthermore, If you saw any if the interaction during the elimination rounds between 1114 and 2056 off the field you would know that both teams wanted nothing but the best for the other. Those two have the strongest partnership in FIRST. There was no "screwing over" going on.
I am well aware of the bond shared by those teams, it is a partnership with a level of friendship and respect which the rest of us can only aim for. Despite this I also know that 1114 and 2056 do not leave anything on the field. They didn't "screw over" in a sense that they did something immoral, however they certainly did aim to get an upperhand in the competition.

Team 3705

31-03-2012, 23:20

Hello there! Great matches everyone. The final match was epic :)

Our team only did two regional events this year. GTR East and West, and they were alright...

I was hoping for us to be picked in the alliance selection, but it seemed like we did not make it...

Could some teams please state on why they did not consider us to be one of their alliance partners?

Arjunonium

31-03-2012, 23:29

EpicLegacy

31-03-2012, 23:38

I too am very confused about the picking process, one team in particular that helped us and one that we thought for sure was going to make alliance selections was team 1325. They had consistent hybrid shooting as well as amazing bridge traversal and driver skills, however they were not picked while others were picked without similar skills.
As a rookie is there something i am missing? Could someone clarify please?
Thanks

Basically, it's not that 1325 was a "weak" team, it's more that the type of skills the alliance teams were looking for were not the skills they had to offer.

For 2056/4001/2200 I believe the thinking was that 2056 would be able to score fairly consistently throughout the match (as they did) and that the other 2 bots were able to play defense well as well as were small bots able to complete the triple balance which they pulled off in the finals to win them the first match. I didn't follow the other teams and selections as closely as I did 2056 otherwise I may have been able to offer more insight.

Just my $0.02

EagleEngineer

01-04-2012, 01:23

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

That was the best intro i've ever seen. He said it "The moment we've all been waiting for since 2007". Final match 1 was pretty epic, 1114 just got unlucky, it happens. Being in the san diego finals and losing by the bridge balance in match 1, i feel 1114's pain. Anyway both alliances did every well, and i would not be surprised to see these same teams on Einstein. Amazing regional, and congrats to 2056, 4001, 2200. :)

Karthik

01-04-2012, 01:42

That was the best intro i've ever seen.

Dave Verbrugge has had some pretty awe inspiring ones over the years, he's definitely the master of the historic intro. Of my own, GTR 2010 is still my favourite.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2010on_f1m1

Kaushal.K

01-04-2012, 01:43

To address some of the issues I quickly read.

1) In semi finals match where #2 alliance (1241 & co) faced the #7 alliance (2056 & co), 1241 took a hard hit and our drop-down mechanism was stuck in the extended position. We were able to drive to block the opposing alliance (not in their lane) from getting onto the bridge WHILE not touching it, therefore no penalty/DQ.

2) In semi's matches 2 & 3, we had connection problems. I do not know the reasoning behind what caused the issue/what the exact issue was, but there was a problem.

3) Team 1114's robot "dying" in the 2nd Finals match occurred at the start of the Tele-Operated period, they were at the same alliance station as Team 1241 was at for Semi's match 3 against 2056.

I would like to thank & congratulate Teams 2056, 4001 and 2200 on their Regional Victory.

Teams 3161, 1114 and 2643 for putting on the most amazing Finals that I have seen since I began in FIRST in '07. It was truly a weekend I (and many others on my team) will never forget!

& Lastly congratulations to Team 1305 on their Engineering Inspiration award and to 907 and 771 for being our amazing alliance partners! :D

nikeairmancurry

01-04-2012, 02:15

Dave Verbrugge has had some pretty awe inspiring ones over the years, he's definitely the master of the historic intro. Of my own, GTR 2010 is still my favourite.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2010on_f1m1

The one that comes to mind is the 2008 Opening Ceremonies at the Great Lakes Regional, "The Perfect Storm" speech. He had this amazing story that contained the name or a part of the teams name (60+ teams there). He did it without any notes or cues, pure memory. To bad it wasn't recorded. Also his 2009 Einstein introduction history lesson was pretty darn good to.

Jash_J

01-04-2012, 02:24

Dave Verbrugge has had some pretty awe inspiring ones over the years, he's definitely the master of the historic intro. Of my own, GTR 2010 is still my favourite.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2010on_f1m1

Haha, I remember watching this back in 2010, my first year as a student of FIRST robotics and team 1241. I remember the stories you told, it inspired me everyday about how this program benefits so many people. I pass down the information you taught me to the juniors on our team. This was definetly one of your best intro's to the finals. Those are the moments we live for in FIRST.

Azores

01-04-2012, 05:41

3161 came amazingly close to taking the #1 seed at Greater Toronto East, and it's no coincidence that they took it this time.

Waterloo* :)

LeelandS

01-04-2012, 09:51

Waterloo* :)

Oops, my bad :) Thanks for correcting me!

PayneTrain

01-04-2012, 10:19

I saw earlier someone said that Canada has the best robots. That's probably because there are two things to do 8 months of the year in Canada:
a)Hockey
b)Robots

amirite?

In all seriousness, everyone should try to figure out how to blow up their local region like GTR has. It would be sweet.

Also, congrats to the winners. I would like to live in a FIRST world where on-field communications issues aren't the biggest "what-ifs" in eliminations (why can't it just come down to strategy, skill, and power?), but I guess that's the hand we are dealt for now.

Alliance selections can be weird. Not that we're complaining, but we had a "better robot" than some of the first picks in VA. Turns out, our alliance captain's strategy was for us to reliably score in hybrid and get on the bridge. It worked unless one of the robots got tipped over...

MidnightShades

01-04-2012, 11:07

Thanks to our alliance 2056 and 2200. It was definitely a great learning experience for us as a rookie team to see how FRC really works for everyone and for a really excellent veteran team. It was certainly an exciting final and it was a really great match thanks to 1114, 3161 and 2634 in that we didn't even dream of facing as we are a rookie team.. especially in the finals!!!! We do look forward to see everyone in the championship. See you there! and more amazing matches to come!

gr8dragon

01-04-2012, 14:42

Congratulation to teams 2056,2200,4001 for the regional win. Congratulations also to team 1241 for the RCA great job. Congratulations to team 1305 as well for the EI.

I have been on 188 for 6 years, and its been an amazing journey. However this year at GTR-West I was totally amazed by all the teams. It was amazing to see the regional develop past just 1114/2056 to teams like 1241, 1310, 907 and many more. Great job all teams and lets see what kind of an impact this has on Candian regionals.

Great effort by teams 1114/3161/2634, for what it's worth you guys were pretty amazing.

Walter Deitzler

01-04-2012, 18:49

Alpha Beta

01-04-2012, 18:53

They are on Ustream
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21499201

basicxman

01-04-2012, 18:54

I am reading about the awesome matches but cannot seem to find the videos! Does anyone know where they are kept, if there are any. I could have sworn there was a YouTube channel, but could not find it.

Thanks!

There is an official YouTube channel (http://youtube.com/watchfirstnow) however due to the poor Internet at the venue we didn't upload them as we went. So for now they're on ustream as the above poster links.

Walter Deitzler

01-04-2012, 18:57

They are on Ustream
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21499201

There is an official YouTube channel however due to the poor Internet at the venue we didn't upload them as we went. So for now they're on ustream as the above poster links.

Thank you both!

Koko Ed

01-04-2012, 19:15

Man, I miss being at GTR.

EagleEngineer

02-04-2012, 00:12

While I respect team 1241, they were not the best alliance partner for 2056. Something you'd have a hard time disagreeing with, when 2056 stated it in the most meaningful way, by declining them.

So was the reason why 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because their robot was having issues?, because i believe that was the case. 1241 was playing defense in the quarters and semis, so i think they might have had an issue with their shooter. This is why these teams declined (I think), if they were working like how they worked at buckeye (nice shooting), i think both teams would have accepted.

TEAMROCK2000

02-04-2012, 00:41

is there any video of the finals matches they sound exciting?

EagleEngineer

02-04-2012, 00:51

is there any video of the finals matches they sound exciting?

Finals 1.1
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501483

Finals 1.2
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501857

akoscielski3

02-04-2012, 07:50

So was the reason why 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because their robot was having issues?, because i believe that was the case. 1241 was playing defense in the quarters and semis, so i think they might have had an issue with their shooter. This is why these teams declined (I think), if they were working like how they worked at buckeye (nice shooting), i think both teams would have accepted.

This may be true. However I believe and am almost 100% positive, that both teams knew they needed an alliance to triple balance. If you think about it both teams alliances are made for doing a triple balance. And 2056 did do triple against 1114 twice to win the finals.

Gregor

02-04-2012, 07:56

So was the reason why 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because their robot was having issues?, because i believe that was the case. 1241 was playing defense in the quarters and semis, so i think they might have had an issue with their shooter. This is why these teams declined (I think), if they were working like how they worked at buckeye (nice shooting), i think both teams would have accepted.

I believe that both 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because they wanted to triple balance. 1241 became damaged in semi 1-1, when they were playing wicked defence on 2056.

lorem3k

02-04-2012, 20:29

Great regional this year! Karthik's introduction speech was amazing. The second final was kind of anti-climactic, though.

I was surprised that nobody thought to block 2200 while they were driving over the bump. For a moment as they were crossing it, their robot was also at an angle that would have made it easily knocked over if it were hit. 2200's great defensive playing was key in their alliance's victory, and I think the finals might've turned out differently if they weren't able to make it over.

Mr_P

02-04-2012, 22:13

I believe that both 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because they wanted to triple balance. 1241 became damaged in semi 1-1, when they were playing wicked defence on 2056.

I wish to congratulate 2056, 4001 and 2200 on their GTRW win and in turn 3161, 1114 and 2634 for their efforts as finalists. I wish to congratulate 1241 for their RCA. Well done.

I do not want to speak for our alliance captain but I believe 1241 was pursuing the same strategy of a triple balance. 907 and 771 are wide bots.

To address some of the issues I quickly read.

1) In semi finals match where #2 alliance (1241 & co) faced the #7 alliance (2056 & co), 1241 took a hard hit and our drop-down mechanism was stuck in the extended position. We were able to drive to block the opposing alliance (not in their lane) from getting onto the bridge WHILE not touching it, therefore no penalty/DQ.

2) In semi's matches 2 & 3, we had connection problems. I do not know the reasoning behind what caused the issue/what the exact issue was, but there was a problem.

3) Team 1114's robot "dying" in the 2nd Finals match occurred at the start of the Tele-Operated period, they were at the same alliance station as Team 1241 was at for Semi's match 3 against 2056.

I would like to thank & congratulate Teams 2056, 4001 and 2200 on their Regional Victory.

Teams 3161, 1114 and 2643 for putting on the most amazing Finals that I have seen since I began in FIRST in '07. It was truly a weekend I (and many others on my team) will never forget!

& Lastly congratulations to Team 1305 on their Engineering Inspiration award and to 907 and 771 for being our amazing alliance partners! :D

The comm problem Kaushal.K describes caused their bot to careen into us in SF1-2. In the collision, one of our PWMs came loose at the sidecar causing a failure on our ball sensors. We didn't catch it between matches, we had little time between match 2 and 3. We had limited ball intake capability in SF1-3. We designed wide knowing it would come down to triple balancing in the end.

Best of luck to 1241, 2056, 4001 and 2200 and 1305 in St. Louis. We will celebrate from afar.

Go Canada!

Gaurav27

03-04-2012, 02:43

While I respect team 1241, they were not the best alliance partner for 2056. Something you'd have a hard time disagreeing with, when 2056 stated it in the most meaningful way, by declining them.

While we may not have been the best alliance partner for 2056 and given the state of our shooter and robot at that stage of GTRW, we would've played a similar role to that of ours at 2011 Curie Division eliminations last year. However, it would've been hard to coordinate and execute a triple balance with two long bots and a wide.

So was the reason why 2056 and 188 declined 1241 because their robot was having issues?, because i believe that was the case. 1241 was playing defense in the quarters and semis, so i think they might have had an issue with their shooter. This is why these teams declined (I think), if they were working like how they worked at buckeye (nice shooting), i think both teams would have accepted.

Yes, those issues were becoming quite clear in the GTRW eliminations and unfortunately we were unable to perform a 100%.

I wish to congratulate 2056, 4001 and 2200 on their GTRW win and in turn 3161, 1114 and 2634 for their efforts as finalists. I wish to congratulate 1241 for their RCA. Well done.

I do not want to speak for our alliance captain but I believe 1241 was pursuing the same strategy of a triple balance. 907 and 771 are wide bots.

The comm problem Kaushal.K describes caused their bot to careen into us in SF1-2. In the collision, one of our PWMs came loose at the sidecar causing a failure on our ball sensors. We didn't catch it between matches, we had little time between match 2 and 3. We had limited ball intake capability in SF1-3. We designed wide knowing it would come down to triple balancing in the end.

Best of luck to 1241, 2056, 4001 and 2200 and 1305 in St. Louis. We will celebrate from afar.

Go Canada!

Thanks Mr. P for the clarification and congrats. We had an amazing time partnering with 907. Your robot was a definite stand-out amongst the scorers this year. By further picking 771, we had an intention of triple balancing but had a doubt of accomplishing so, due to the lack of practice we had together.

We hope to improve and perform up to par or even better than some of the top Canadian bots who are unable to attend Championships this year.

tsangc

10-04-2012, 00:17

Hi guys,

Here are some photos from GTR West:

https://picasaweb.google.com/106793675602869141846/FIRSTFRCGreaterTorontoRegionalWest2012

Calum

Matthx

10-04-2012, 00:38

Hi guys,

Here are some photos from GTR West:

https://picasaweb.google.com/106793675602869141846/FIRSTFRCGreaterTorontoRegionalWest2012

Calum

There are some beautiful shots there, thanks for posting :)

Gregor

19-04-2012, 21:36

Mr. Lim

19-04-2012, 22:00

http://youtu.be/fQzyydRiek4

Semi Match 2-1

Red: 1241, 907, 771

Blue: 2056, 4001, 2200

Red - 62
Blue - 51

We noticed there was no full video of this match online and thought it would be a great idea to have all of them published.

I have been waiting for video of this match since the end of GTR-W. I thought it would be lost forever.

907 has built amazing robots these past two years in particular. They really deserve to be at CMP. I don't believe they have ever attended. One of the absolute best key shooters at GTR-W, and that's saying a lot.

You can't see much of it from this video, but 1241 put on an absolute defensive clinic during this match.