2012 I.R.I. - Updated Event Information

[Chris Fultz]

2012 IRI – Indiana Robotics Invitational –

Dates – July 20-21, 2012
Lawrence North High School, Indianapolis, IN
Hosted by Teams 45, 234 and 1024

Entry Fee - $700
Includes event, dinner, entertainment
Voluntary IRI Teams Scholarship donations accepted
Paypal option for Payment
2011 Winning Alliance = Automatic Entry and No Entry Fee

Invitations to 72 Teams

Key Dates -
May 2 - Applications open
May 9 - Applications close
May 15 - Invitations List Released, followed by Webcast discussion / follow-up
June 4 - Team Commitment Required
June 18 – Full payment due

Application Changes –

You can and are encouraged to include –
• What was your best performance this year?
• Are there any special circumstances we need to know about?
• You can link to a Compilation video or specific Match video

You can submit “support” for other teams -
• Can be an email, video, poem, photo, etc.
• Cannot be for your own team
• Submission must contain name, team and contact information for the team submitting the info and should explain why you think the team / robot should be considered.

Event Special Activities
• IRI Silent Auction
• IRI Shooting Competition Fundraiser (Pros vs. the Robots)
• Driver / Operator Skills Challenge

Friday Night
• Team Dinner (grilled chicken, mac & cheese, salad, deserts)
• Dean Simmons and the Kamens - Performance
• Special Entertainment – To Be Announced!

Rules – Changes from 2012 FIRST Game
• Draft Order is 1-8, 1-8, 8-1 (4 team alliances)
• Teams Allowed +5 pounds (Weigh In TBD)
• No Kinect (Due to Space Constraints)
• Other Changes Being Considered – None Decided

Other Information Coming
• Scholarships
• Hotels and Special Pricing
• Volunteer Sign Up
• Other Rule Changes

[Billfred]

• Special Entertainment – To Be Announced!

I hope we didn't kill the talent show last year!

More so than any year before, I'm banging the drum for 2815 to apply (and we might be organized enough in the summer to do it). Short of Einstein Field, we know the most likely place to find The Man in FRC is in Indianapolis. (Growing up an hour and a half from Charlotte, we know that to be the man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s)...) But first we'll have to firm up that resumé this week in St. Louis.

[Akash Rastogi]

You can submit “support” for other teams -
• Can be an email, video, poem, photo, etc.
• Cannot be for your own team
• Submission must contain name, team and contact information for the team submitting the info and should explain why you think the team / robot should be considered.

This is cool, was this around previous years?

[Chris Fultz]

This is cool, was this around previous years?

No, this is new for 2012.

No Talent Show this year.
Something diferent for 2012. :)

[jwfoss]

Thanks for the information. I'll get our kids working on the application and a new video right away.

If selected we also have a set of items we'd like to donate for the silent auction.
I'm sure people can guess what that would be coming from us.

[johnr]

Do you need team t-shirts for quilt? If yes, where do we mail them if we don't see you at champs.

[Travis Hoffman]

This is cool, was this around previous years?

I'm glad it's around this year. I've got 3 teams in mind who will receive my support, if any apply. Thanks to the organizers for allowing this!

[torihoelscher]

I hope KRUNCH goes this year! I would love to see us go! Hopefully, I'll be in Cincinnati so I only have to drive 5 hours to get over there! EEEEEEEEK! So excited!

[nahstobor]

If selected we also have a set of items we'd like to donate for the silent auction. I'm sure people can guess what that would be coming from us.

All of your non-colson wheels?

[ratdude747]

Glad to see the kinect go... IMHO it was a complete waste of space...

[Chi Meson]

All of your non-colson wheels?
Close. Muffin fans actually.

[sanddrag]

Any information on shipping for West Coast teams. I remember in years past Scott at then BAX Global was very helpful in lowering shipping cost for west coast teams. Do we have any arrangement this year or are we on our own?

[efoote868]

I hope KRUNCH goes this year! I would love to see us go! Hopefully, I'll be in Cincinnati so I only have to drive 5 hours to get over there! EEEEEEEEK! So excited!

How many loops around I275 and I465 are you planning on taking?

[AlecMataloni]

Suggestion: Replay the 2012 FRC Einstein semifinals and Finals matches.

[stundt1]

Suggestion: Replay the 2012 FRC Einstein semifinals and Finals matches.

with a working field.

[avanboekel]

Suggestion: Replay the 2012 FRC Einstein semifinals and Finals matches.

Agreed

[Foster]

I want to see the FiM and MAR champs play off. I vote not having the mentor match to give these 6 teams two more matches across lunch.

[mcb]

When will we find out the time of the webcast on May 15th?

[whattsheorder]

What do we need to include in the application?

[Nick Lawrence]

I don't want to see an Einstein replay unless all the teams involved wholeheartedly agree to it.

I would like to see the MAR champions face the FiM champions though as an exhibition.

-Nick

[Jared Russell]

At this point I think the one rule that IRI should change is [R52] (http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/viewItem/57#4.1.9).

EDIT: And/or [R55]

[Peter Matteson]

I don't want to see an Einstein replay unless all the teams involved wholeheartedly agree to it.

Agreed. No good can come of this. It's not worth the collateral damagae it will cause.

I would like to see the MAR champions face the FiM champions though as an exhibition.

This would be a fun way to earn bragging rights between districts.

[Gdeaver]

Jared, would you like to expand on that statement?

[Foster]

Agreed. No good can come of this. It's not worth the collateral damagae it will cause.

This would be a fun way to earn bragging rights between districts.

I agree, and IRI is all about the bragging rights!

[Travis Hoffman]

I don't want to see an Einstein replay unless all the teams involved wholeheartedly agree to it.

I would like to see the MAR champions face the FiM champions though as an exhibition.

-Nick

I would like to see nothing done that reduces the number of matches or competitive value for non district winners, i.e. the majority of teams in attendance. If the exhibition(s) are held during a time that would not otherwise be used for something beneficial to teams (including the alliance TRIPLE BALANCE PRACTICE that FIRST failed to provide for all CMP alliances), then I would have no problem with them.

[Donovan0217]

Suggestion: Replay the 2012 FRC Einstein semifinals and Finals matches.

While i do want to know what could have been, i don't think this is a good idea... While the factor that played into the finals more then most seemed to be the field issues, there are too many other factors to take into account to replay this. Any of the teams had the ability to win Einstein, and what happened happened. There is no reason to try and replay this, because it would do nothing but cause more problems.

I'm as upset as anyone on how much was sucked out of Einstein because of the problems, but that doesn't mean it needs to be redone.

[JB987]

While i do want to know what could have been, i don't think this is a good idea... While the factor that played into the finals more then most seemed to be the field issues, there are too many other factors to take into account to replay this. Any of the teams had the ability to win Einstein, and what happened happened. There is no reason to try and replay this, because it would do nothing but cause more problems.

I'm as upset as anyone on how much was sucked out of Einstein because of the problems, but that doesn't mean it needs to be redone.

Agreed 100%

[Chi Meson]

Also agreed.

Everyone who saw 118 sit there saw what happened to our #1 alliance in Hartford in the 2nd & 3rd game of semis. After a while we simply had to accept the outcome. We could not possibly claim that we were "supposed to win" or that "we would have won if..." Some things just go that way. In Hartford as in Einstein, the winning alliance deserved their trophies.

Someone already said, in another thread, "Let I.R.I. be I.R.I."

Looking over my post it might seem like a grudge is lurking. Not So! Let me quickly add that I still think that 118 made one of the best and most beautiful machines I've ever seen and we all wish the Robonauts nothing but the best!

[Slix]

Is this open to the public?

[GMASTERFLASH]

Is any team eligible for applying?

[AlecMataloni]

You guys are right. I just wished that every Alliance had a fair shot at winning, as far as the field was concerned.

Keep IRI as IRI.

[Chris Fultz]

To answer a few questions -

Any team is invited and encouraged to apply.

The event is free, open to the public, and a great event to attend even if your team is not competing. The atmosphere is fun and competitive. Teams are more relaxed in the pits and it is easy to see designes and talk with teams about their robots.

We don't know about a MAR / FiM playoff. Not discussed yet.

We WILL NOT replay Einstein.

[Donovan0217]

We don't know about a MAR / FiM playoff. Not discussed yet.

We WILL NOT replay Einstein.

Good choice. Consider the playoffs, but there is no reason to cause more drama on the Einstein subject.

[Grim Tuesday]

I would like to see nothing done that reduces the number of matches or competitive value for non district winners, i.e. the majority of teams in attendance. If the exhibition(s) are held during a time that would not otherwise be used for something beneficial to teams (including the alliance TRIPLE BALANCE PRACTICE that FIRST failed to provide for all CMP alliances), then I would have no problem with them.

I don't know about Galileo, but on Newton, we were given our triple balance practice time. All we had to do was go up and ask.

Back on subject, thank you so much for not replaying Einstein. MAR vs FiM would be very fun to watch; a best out of 5 during lunch wouldn't take much time away from anyone but the 6 teams involved.

[Travis Hoffman]

I don't know about Galileo, but on Newton, we were given our triple balance practice time. All we had to do was go up and ask.



Galileo and Newton shared the same practice field. There was a signup sheet, and I know they were following it. There were limited slots - not enough slots to accomodate all 16 alliances in the time between alliance selections and start of elims (12:00 noon, which I would have liked to have seen pushed back a bit). Also, time slots on the signup sheet were farrrr too long - you can learn what you need to know in far less time than 10 minutes. The whole "system" essentially guaranteed that some alliances would be shut out.

Insufficient time for drive teams to get some food, strategize together, and get a bit of triple practice in.

Anyway, how this relates to IRI - I request triple practice opportunities for the elimination alliances there, and hopefully, there will be a comp bridge (or two?) on the practice field to supplement any practice going on on the main field, if that is even possible.

[Chris Fultz]

Anyway, how this relates to IRI - I request triple practice opportunities for the elimination alliances there, and hopefully, there will be a comp bridge (or two?) on the practice field to supplement any practice going on on the main field, if that is even possible.

The current plan is to have a full "official" field for practice, but with no electronics. If we are able to do this, there will be three bridges available for use.

[Travis Hoffman]

The current plan is to have a full "official" field for practice, but with no electronics. If we are able to do this, there will be three bridges available for use.

Yay! Here's hoping this comes to pass. Thanks, Chris.

[Chris Fultz]

Yay! Here's hoping this comes to pass. Thanks, Chris.

oh, but they are only for use by newer teams. and by newer, i mean any team with a number higher than 49. :D

[Craig Roys]

Galileo and Newton shared the same practice field. There was a signup sheet, and I know they were following it. There were limited slots - not enough slots to accomodate all 16 alliances in the time between alliance selections and start of elims (12:00 noon, which I would have liked to have seen pushed back a bit). Also, time slots on the signup sheet were farrrr too long - you can learn what you need to know in far less time than 10 minutes. The whole "system" essentially guaranteed that some alliances would be shut out.

Insufficient time for drive teams to get some food, strategize together, and get a bit of triple practice in.

Anyway, how this relates to IRI - I request triple practice opportunities for the elimination alliances there, and hopefully, there will be a comp bridge (or two?) on the practice field to supplement any practice going on on the main field, if that is even possible.

Our alliance never got a chance to practice...the earliest time we could get was 11:50. That was rather difficult considering that the elims started at noon and we were in the second match. A schedule could easily be set up before alliance selections ever happen...just base it on when each alliance plays - alliance 1 and 8 go first, then 4 and 5, then 2 and 7, and finally 3 and 6. Each alliance should need only 10 or 15 minutes to see what works best. 10 is normally enough, but with 4 team alliances the extra 5 minutes would be nice to try some different combinations.

Just a thought...

[Travis Hoffman]

oh, but they are only for use by newer teams. and by newer, i mean any team with a number higher than 49. :D

We'll come in disguise as 3193's robot. Hurray for collaboration!

[Nathan Pell]

This may be a dumb question, but where does one go to apply?

[Anupam Goli]

Rather than an Einstein replay, I've been thinking about a 3rd place match up between the Semifinalists on Einstein. I always thought that would be neat to watch. Why not do a 3rd place Einstein runoff match set?

[Astrokid248]

I'd like to see that too. I know our flight team really wanted to go up against the Eh Team and do a 36 point auton, crazy tele-op, and triple balance to see who had the best shooter and strategy. But replaying Einstein would be very rude to the winning alliance, and would probably be counterproductive. IRI's about making friendships, not destroying any chance of them, and we need to show FIRST that even if they won't stick to the principles they tout, we will.

[neshera]

This may be a dumb question, but where does one go to apply?

NOT a dumb question.

As of time of this post, the IRI website http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org
says, "Stay tuned to this site for the sign up page."
The required and optional info is also listed.
Thanks Mr. Fultz and CyberBlue and all the IRI hosts!

[Peyton Yeung]

oh, but they are only for use by newer teams. and by newer, i mean any team with a number higher than 49. :D


Oh darn :)

[lemiant]

Rather than an Einstein replay, I've been thinking about a 3rd place match up between the Semifinalists on Einstein. I always thought that would be neat to watch. Why not do a 3rd place Einstein runoff match set?

This seems like a vastly better idea than the replay. We get to run our magical triple balance again and it doesn't upset any of the current rankings. Plus the matches would be AWESOME :)!

(I'm also a little biased because I just want to play with 1114/2056 again)

[TheMadCADer]

Similar to the MAR vs FiM, each of the various regions could put together their own "regional all-star" alliance for a fun little playoff.

Just imagine, a Texas and West Coast matchup, 1717/254/987 vs 118/148/1477... or maybe you'd like to see 67/469/33 play 1114/2056/188? Oh, the possibilities at IRI :rolleyes: .

However, I fully support placing more emphasis on getting in lots of qualification matches. More matches means better rankings. :D

[Holtzman]

I would personally like to see a return of the Mentor Match. Not the hokey tournament at lunch time, but a full round of qualification matches (1 match per team) where the robots are operated my mentors, and coached by students. This was a ton of fun back in the day. The role reversal is interesting. Give the students a chance to see what its like to guide the team and alliance, and the mentors a chance to see what its like to take orders and execute a strategy.

[Travis Hoffman]

I would personally like to see a return of the Mentor Match. Not the hokey tournament at lunch time, but a full round of qualification matches (1 match per team) where the robots are operated my mentors, and coached by students. This was a ton of fun back in the day. The role reversal is interesting. Give the students a chance to see what its like to guide the team and alliance, and the mentors a chance to see what its like to take orders and execute a strategy.

I am still undefeated in this (original) endeavor at IRI, when the matches counted.

I want to see which mentor turbo boosts the farthest off the bridge.

[JohnSchneider]

Similar to the MAR vs FiM, each of the various regions could put together their own "regional all-star" alliance for a fun little playoff.

Just imagine, a Texas and West Coast matchup, 1717/254/987 vs 118/148/1477... or maybe you'd like to see 67/469/33 play 1114/2056/188? Oh, the possibilities at IRI :rolleyes: .

However, I fully support placing more emphasis on getting in lots of qualification matches. More matches means better rankings. :D

I think Texas would win it...and not just because Im biased ;o

[Chris Fultz]

From the IRI Website
http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org


Application for the 2012 IRI will begin at 6:00pm Eastern Time on Wednesday 2-May-2012. Stay tuned to this site for the sign up page. Remember, this is only the application page – not all teams can be accomodated so the selected teams will receive notification and an invitaiton to compete. The information we will be requesting is as follows:

[Hallry]

Well, the application is now live, but where does one go to submit support for other teams?

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Team 254 has applied. I hope we can make it out this year.

[Travis Hoffman]

48's hat is in the ring.

Chris just posted how to endorse another team for IRI invitation - http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=106236

[Billfred]

Just submitted 2815's application. Not sure if one blue banner for 2012 is enough to get into that dance as a first-timer, but you know what happens when you don't shoot the ball.

[IndySam]

The Digital Goats have applied and hope to be invited to the barn dance.

[Peyton Yeung]

The Digital Goats have applied and hope to be invited to the barn dance.

If there was a team that deserves a shot at redemption this season I think it should be 829. You guys have a great bot and it was sad that you guys couldn't go to championships.

[Bjenks548]

I still can not find where to submit the application, the last post i see on the IRI website is from yesterday and says stay tuned. Also If regions are making there "all star" alliances they either need to go with their 1st, 2nd, and 24th best robot pair up, or I'd be happy to join the other top 3 Michigan ranked team. 469 and 67 care to join?

[wendymom]

Bacon is hoping to join the Goats in the barnyard

[Adam Freeman]

The HOT team has applied.

[Chris Fultz]

I still can not find where to submit the application, the last post i see on the IRI website is from yesterday and says stay tuned. Also If regions are making there "all star" alliances they either need to go with their 1st, 2nd, and 24th best robot pair up, or I'd be happy to join the other top 3 Michigan ranked team. 469 and 67 care to join?

Under the banner photo, next to "home" there is a block that says "2012 IRI Application". Click that.

[Donovan0217]

Is the submitting suggestions for other teams up yet? I was unable to find it...
217 is already pre-qualified by winning last year, but there are a few teams we can think of to submit the suggestions for.

[LoweIQ]

Is the submitting suggestions for other teams up yet? I was unable to find it...
217 is already pre-qualified by winning last year, but there are a few teams we can think of to submit the suggestions for.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=106236

Can students recommend teams? Or only mentors?

[Hallry]

1676 just applied. Now working on numerous support applications for other teams =).

[Ryan Wilmes]

868 is applied and is hoping to end Indiana's five-year drought.

[Tyler Olds]

I am still undefeated in this (original) (Mentor Matches) endeavor at IRI, when the matches counted.


I am undefeated from when they didn't count (2010) and am looking forward to playing again if they bring it back!

Wave Robotics has applied!

[Mr. Rip]

I think Texas would win it...and not just because Im biased ;o

Similar to the MAR vs FiM, each of the various regions could put together their own "regional all-star" alliance for a fun little playoff.

Just imagine, a Texas and West Coast matchup, 1717/254/987 vs 118/148/1477... or maybe you'd like to see 67/469/33 play 1114/2056/188? Oh, the possibilities at IRI :rolleyes: .

However, I fully support placing more emphasis on getting in lots of qualification matches. More matches means better rankings. :D

624 and 231 are two other Texas teams that should be considered. We won the Bayou Regional with one and Alamo with the other. 231 had great strategy all season and 624 just had an awesome robot.

[Reanna]

Are teams of the pity.. I mean, FIRST Lottery invited as well?

[Clayton Yocom]

Are teams of the pity.. I mean, FIRST Lottery invited as well?

All teams are able to apply.

[Gary Dillard]

Hey Chris, the schedule page on the website has the wrong dates listed by each day (shows July 20-22, s.b. 19-21). It had me confused for a minute.

[Adam Freeman]

I would personally like to see a return of the Mentor Match.

Of course all the former drivers want to bring back the Mentor Match.

I prefer to keep my perfect (1-0) driving record intact. I try to stay as far away from driving the robot as possible, so I don't expose myself for the terrible driver I actually am.

[Chi Meson]

Aluminum Falcons (2168) will be applying, and we are looking forward to seeing the Pi-oneers again.

Side note: has anyone considered that maybe the red bumpers are the problem? How about green bumpers?

[trilogy2826]

I try to stay as far away from driving the robot as possible, so I don't expose myself for the terrible driver I actually am.

Just make sure you bring your spare arm. I can't imagine you would be gentle with it.

[Jeff Waegelin]

The Robowranglers have applied... 148 is looking forward to making a return to Indy!

[waitwhat?]

Team 869 PowerCord has put in their application! Looking forward to (hopefully) making our IRI debut!

[Gary Dillard]

Looking at the teams who have posted that they have applied, and giggling that some of them actually have to provide credentials.

"So you're the H.O.T. team, eh? We'll be the judge of that."

[Ed Law]

Team 2834 the Bionic Barons has applied. This is our first time applying since we feel we finally have a decent robot. The seniors who started the team 4 years ago will be graduating. This is their last chance so I hope we will be invited.

[Travis Hoffman]

Of course all the former drivers want to bring back the Mentor Match.

I prefer to keep my perfect (1-0) driving record intact. I try to stay as far away from driving the robot as possible, so I don't expose myself for the terrible driver I actually am.

Maybe you could come copilot ours - or be the inbounder. If I were driving, that would limit the damage you could do. :cool:

I vividly recall our guest copilot in 2005 (name withheld to protect the innocent). I failed miserably at giving him a crash course in operating the controls, and he made poor Amanda Morrison run back and forth re-loading tetra after tetra when he kept dropping it outside the field. But he persevered, scored that tetra, and we still won the match! One of my fonder recollections of IRI of yesteryear.

I think I still have that on tape somewhere.

[akoscielski3]

Just finished filling out the application :D Crossing our fingers!

[sanddrag]

Team 696 has applied for our first ever trip to IRI, although it would be a 4th time for myself personally. We firmly believe our robot is a good design and well-constructed (best we've ever created), and has not yet unleashed its full potential. We are excited for the chance to take another run at Rebound Rumble.

[TheMadCADer]

624 and 231 are two other Texas teams that should be considered. We won the Bayou Regional with one and Alamo with the other. 231 had great strategy all season and 624 just had an awesome robot.

They'd be there too, but unfortunately I couldn't fit all 5 on an alliance. :D

118, 148, and more recently 1477 are the more well known among FIRST, and more likely to be selected to some sort of "Texas All Star Alliance", which I imagine would be decided by votes from other teams at IRI.

[JosephC]

Team 68 Truck Town Thunder has applied.

[Gregor]

Team 907 has applied

[lynca]

I'm going to limit my recommendations to teams that have never been to IRI.

In Texas,
1. 624 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/624) - CRyptonite has had one of the best shooters all year,
2. 231 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/231)- High Voltage had great strategy and made division finals this year.
3. 3481 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3481) - Bronc Botz - for having a breakout season and winning the EI award
4. 3847 (http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/3847) - Spectrum - for winning chairman's, having a great team and a unique defensive strategy

[Hadi379]

379 has applied!

[jwfoss]

I've just been notified that FRC2168 Aluminum Falcons has officially completed the application. We'd be honored to play if accepted.

Edit: Here is our Application "Video Supplement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qs9ChwRVOQ&feature=youtu.be)"

[waialua359]

Team 359 originally was not planning to attend due to a mentor getting married that Saturday and my daughter being the flower girl.:)
However, my wife gave the OK to go and promised to take lots of pics.

We also just recently learned that our driver is moving to Arizona.:(
He has won 7 of 8 regionals attended, and 2 for 2 in IRI, and will be spending his senior year, hoping to drive for another team at his next home?? We got 2 eager students waiting to take his place (one of which is 3-0 at regionals as co-operator).

Chris and Andy, can you folks follow up for us and the other teams that would require shipment of robots to your event? Last I heard, BAX Global/D.B. Schenker is out.
This will also determine whether we can do the Texas off-season event the following week.

[Mk.32]

Our video is a work in progress at the moment, I would like to link to a page and then put the video on the page when it is done.
So my question when are the applications actually read?

[Gregor]

Our video is a work in progress at the moment, I would like to link to a page and then put the video on the page when it is done.
So my question when are the applications actually read?

Application time closes on the 9th of May, and the list of accepted teams is published on the 15th.

[Debbie]

BX 1023 just submitted our first application to IRI!

(well at least since Nick and I have been coaching.. not sure before then) :)

[Meredith Novak]

Team 16 applied. Against all my better judgment... :ahh:

[Justin Montois]

Team 340 has applied!

[Wetzel]

2914 has applied!
We've been working on improvements all season, and we haven't stopped yet. Starting with a group of students, only one of which has a previous year of FIRST experience, we started simple, but didn't stay there. We've gone through 7 or 8 major iterations on our shooter, upgraded our gearboxes, upgraded our intake, and now have a basic vision system working. Our bridge manipulator has worked flawlessly from the beginning, so we've left that alone.

We hope to be the first team from DC to attend IRI!

Wetzel

[lemiant]

4334 has applied :)

[thisOrrthat]

This makes me sad. The Talent show was the best.

Talent Show
This year, at the 2012 IRI, we are not having a Talent Show. However, the Dean Simmons and the Kamen Brothers band will play, and they are seeking long-lost relatives (guest musicians) who would want to join them for a song or two.


http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/talent-show/

[Craig Roys]

1718 had officially thrown our hat in the ring...we are hoping to have a couple improvements in place if we are invited!

[Siri]

1640 applied as well! IRI is such a blast, and all our rookies (and vets) are really looking forward to the experience if we make it. Good luck to everyone! So many amazing teams applying. :o

[stundt1]

What if they did fully hybrid matches with everyone using the kinect?

[Kristian Calhoun]

What if they did fully hybrid matches with everyone using the kinect?

I have a strong feeling that won't be happening.


Rules – Changes from 2012 FIRST Game
• No Kinect (Due to Space Constraints)

Not to mention that the majority of teams did not invest any time in trying to use the Kinect for hybrid control this year.

[dodar]

Not to mention that the majority of teams did not invest any time in trying to use the Kinect for hybrid control this year.

I respectfully disagree and point you towards the blood, sweat, and tears of laughter from 254.

[DonRotolo]

I respectfully disagree and point you towards the blood, sweat, and tears of laughter from 254.
(One team does not make a majority)

[Littleboy]

I respectfully disagree and point you towards the blood, sweat, and tears of laughter from 254.

Majority means not all. Most teams did not, but some, like 254, did.

[Travis Hoffman]

Majority means not all. Most teams did not, but some, like 254, did.

Oy. I'm thinking some here aren't quite aware of the nature of 254's Kinect "usage". ;)

[IndySam]

Some of you know my opinion on what they did.

[sdcantrell56]

Oy. I'm thinking some here aren't quite aware of the nature of 254's Kinect "usage". ;)

254's "usage" was the only that made any sense the entire season.

[BigJ]

254's "usage" was the only that made any sense the entire season.

There were some legitimate uses for a very limited subset of situations in my opinion, but not an amount significant enough to affect any team who will play at IRI too negatively.

(My idea of the legitimate use would be for an emergency stop while flying towards co-op bridge if opponent has claimed it already, or steering to balls if your robot does not have a bridge autonomous. I can't really think of anything else that isn't done better by a properly programmed autonomous robot)

[PatJameson]

I can't really think of anything else that isn't done better by a properly programmed autonomous robot

Sudden changes of strategy, be it on the field while talking with teams or during the match. For example, during I match 125 on the newton field, if anyone happens to have a video, we were originally set to go to the co-op bridge. However, by the time we shot our two balls, the other alliance had already grabbed those balls. Our Kinect operator successfully drove over and tipped the alliance bridge from across the field before the hybrid period was over, saving us precious time.

Is this advantage an absolute game changer? Absolutely not, but there are some legitimate uses.

On that note, the Kinect ruins the point of autonomous mode and shouldn't be used in future years. Unless it is mounted to the robot, of course.

[Karthik]

Oy. I'm thinking some here aren't quite aware of the nature of 254's Kinect "usage". ;)

Here's a link to the awesomeness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOiaC0I8pY

[stundt1]

Guys I didn't mean to start a discussion I was just thought it would be cool to see a 3 vs 3 match all kinect controlled.

If you guys want there is a autonomous discussion here http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1168034#post1168034

[waialua359]

Here's a link to the awesomeness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOiaC0I8pY

When Dennis told me about this, I had to see it for myself.
Easily the most awesome creativity in FIRST on the field.

I hope they decide to come up with more themes at IRI.

[Peyton Yeung]

I hope they decide to come up with more themes at IRI.

Too bad there is no Kinect at IRI

[dodar]

Team 1592 has applied! Well...closer to 10:00pm yesterday than now.

[Pat Fairbank]

Too bad there is no Kinect at IRI
We don't need a Kinect, just a Kinect station! :P

But I suppose lack of space for the station is the reason given for getting rid of the Kinect anyway...

[Chris Fultz]

We don't need a Kinect, just a Kinect station! :P

But I suppose lack of space for the station is the reason given for getting rid of the Kinect anyway...

That side of the field is too crowded and we are concerned that there would be multiple interferences for teams trying to use it. We have limited "width" across the field area when we use all of the bleachers in the gym.

[Billfred]

That side of the field is too crowded and we are concerned that there would be multiple interferences for teams trying to use it. We have limited "width" across the field area when we use all of the bleachers in the gym.

Simple solution: put the Kinect stations in the volunteer lounge and the foyer on the opposite end of the gym where there's more room.

Some might bellyache and complain "But then you can't see the field to control the robot!" I say "It's supposed to be hard, it's IRI!" :D

[Gary Dillard]

Even better - put it on the fender to add some excitement.

[Travis Hoffman]

Simple solution: put the Kinect stations in the volunteer lounge and the foyer on the opposite end of the gym where there's more room.

Some might bellyache and complain "But then you can't see the field to control the robot!" I say "It's supposed to be hard, it's IRI!" :D

How about up on the running track opposite the big bleachers, with a firepole/inflatable slide for the kinecteers to use to quickly return to the driver stations? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Taylor]

How about up on the running track opposite the big bleachers, with a firepole/inflatable slide for the kinecteers to use to quickly return to the driver stations? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Between matches, $1 to go down the firepole/slide. Money goes toward registration fees for FRC180.

I'd pay it.

[DonRotolo]

Me too. Multiple times.

[jwfoss]

Invitations to 72 Teams

Key Dates -
May 2 - Applications open
May 9 - Applications close
May 15 - Invitations List Released, followed by Webcast discussion / follow-up
June 4 - Team Commitment Required
June 18 – Full payment due


I would like to have the team tune into the invitation webcast/discussion, is there any further information on this? Thanks.

[Travis Hoffman]

Also, is the minimum one grade school student backpack full of school supplies still part of the entry fee?

[Gary Dillard]

Also, is the minimum one grade school student backpack full of school supplies still part of the entry fee?

Is there a Paypal option for that?

[Chris Fultz]

Is there a Paypal option for that?

yes, we still encourage teams to bring a backpack for an elementary school student. we will post the suggested materials.

teams could also add $30 to the entry fee and we can use it to purchase items. but it is pretty cool to see the variety that teams bring!

[Travis Hoffman]

Is there a Paypal option for that?

Figurative entry fee. Bringing at least one backpack as part of your overall "payment" to IRI has been an event tradition for many years. I did not see that requirement listed in Chris' initial post and wondered if it was still going to be a requirement for 2012.

[XaulZan11]

Maybe I missed it, but when will teams be announced and the webcast following the announcement.

[Yipyapper]

Maybe I missed it, but when will teams be announced and the webcast following the announcement.
https://twitter.com/#!/2012IRI
Their Twitter feed says that the invitations are released tomorrow.

[thisOrrthat]

They are in

http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/competing-teams/


Team, Team Name

16 Baxter Bomb Squad
25 Raider Robotix
27 Team RUSH
33 Killer Bees
45 TechnoKats
48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E.
51 Wings of Fire
67 Heroes of Tomorrow
68 Truck Town Thunder
71 Team Hammond
111 WildStang
118 The Robonauts
125 NUTRONs
148 Robowranglers
192 Gunn Robotics Team
217 ThunderChickens
233 The PINK Team
234 Cyber Blue
245 Adambots
254 The Cheesy Poofs
269 Cooney Tech Robotics
292 PantherTech
330 The Beach ‘Bots
340 GRR
341 Miss Daisy
359 Hawaiian Kids
379 Robocats
399 Eagle Robotics
447 Team Roboto
461 Westside Boiler Invasion
469 Las Guerrillas
503 Frog Force
548 The Robostangs
573 Mech Warriors
624 CRyptonite
744 Shark Attack
772 Sabre Bytes
781 Kinetic Knigts
829 The Digital Goats
868 TechHOUNDS
907 East York Cybernetics
971 Spartan Robotics
973 Greybots
1023 Bedford Express
1024 Kil-A-Bytes
1114 Simbotics
1538 The Holy Cows
1592 Bionic Tigers
1640 Sab-BOT-age
1676 The Pascack Pi-oneers
1714 MORE Robotics
1718 The Fighting Pi
1730 Team Driven
1732 Hilltoppers
1741 Red Alert
1902 4-H Exploding Bacon
2054 Tech Vikes
2056 OP Robotics
2168 Aluminum Falcons
2194 Fondy Fire
2337 EngiNERDs
2481 Roboteers
2590 Nemesis
2614 MARS
2826 Wave Robotics
2834 Bionic Barons
2949 PWNAGE
3098 The Captains
3138 Innovators Robotics Inc
3193 Falco Tech
3310 Team Black Hawk
3322 Eagle Imperium
3357 COMETS
3940 CyberTooth
3947 The Last Crusaders
4334 Alberta Tech Alliance

[Ed Law]

Does anybody know whether the match schedule when it is ready on Friday will be available in electronic form? Also I noticed that last year the team standings were available Saturday morning and it looks like it is in the same format as from FMS. Can someone confirm that HP BP TP CP will be included in that report? It will be nice to include the Match Results also. My scouting system relies heavily on these data. I hate to have to type in the match schedule.

[Wayne Doenges]

Where do we go to volunteer?

[Debbie]

Are there any hotel recommendations or group discounts with hotels?

[JB987]

QUOTE=Debbie;1171058]Are there any hotel recommendations or group discounts with hotels?[/QUOTE]

There is a fantastic Drury Inn and Suites just off the freeway exit closest to the school. About a mile from the school as I remember. Breakfast included...and afternoon/evening snacks. Just sad our team didn't have the money to join the rest of you guys. :(

[Walter Deitzler]

Are the IRI matches going to be recorded and put on youtube or some other video site?

[Andrew744]

does anyone know the name of the Mario dubstep song they played? Maybe a playist?