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DampRobot
11-09-2012, 18:44
I'm really hoping for tetras. An arm/elevator will be almost a sure deal, after a game that didn't require them. As always, an awesome drive train will be required to do well.
You heard it here first folks. The robot will definitely need wheels and will probably have an arm.
I'd be okay with this as long as it has nothing to do with Stack Attack. Though I never played it, it kind of looked awful to me in terms of scoring complication.
I'm going to go brush up on active drive systems, and linear lift systems.
-NickFrom what I've read, there turned out to be very little complexity at all because, since stacks were way too easy to knock over, no one actually built them. I'm not usually a big fan of the kinds of anti-defense rules FIRST has used lately, but maybe they would have helped that game or one like it...
Freeloder123
11-09-2012, 21:34
where do you find the speech ?
PayneTrain
11-09-2012, 21:55
No game piece could be more shamelessly recycled than the tetra. On top of that, what new stuff can you really do with it? A mashup of Frenzy with odd game pieces could be entertaining. I like the idea of "physical challenges" the robot has to perform on an object to pull itself up, stack other robots, or balance itself as the endgame portion. They could theme it to a mission to Mars where your alliance has to collect resources of various shapes, sizes and values into 2 of your alliance's movable bins, and doing something like putting the bin on your robot gives you bonus/multiplier points. 2 bots balancing one bin each receives x points, one bot balancing two bins earns y, and spilling your bin earns you a z penalty.
(Doesn't this work better in the Rumor Mill?)
PVCpirate
13-09-2012, 17:19
(Doesn't this work better in the Rumor Mill?)
I think this thread has become such a staple on CD every year that no one has a problem with it being in the general forum.
Since the GDC is so big on cooperation, I think it would be cool, if robots had to pass game pieces from one to another to score. Nothing more specific than that right now.
swwrobotics
16-09-2012, 11:31
This is a completely random guess, but I think the game this year is going to be dodge ball, where you can hide from your opponent behind tall cubes, and for the endgame you have to climb on top of the cube to score points. I think that would be a fun game, but probably not to likely if they're continuing the pattern of a sport, no sport, sport etc this year.
Another thought. Because I believe the kinect will be more favorable for use next year (The GDC will make it so), The Game might have somehting to do with seeking out objects on the field or avoiding them. Kinect would be useful for both. Maybe the game is to do something WITHOUT knocking over stacks, since the stacking seems to be a popular guess this year?
Coach LeGate
20-09-2012, 20:31
Maybe this year's game will have the drive team not on the field. Maybe you will have to use the Kinetic to detect obstacles and use the video to drive by or find objects. The game piece a tub, crate, or tetra and you have to stack them some how.
PVCpirate
21-09-2012, 17:34
Maybe this year's game will have the drive team not on the field. Maybe you will have to use the Kinetic to detect obstacles and use the video to drive by or find objects. The game piece a tub, crate, or tetra and you have to stack them some how.
I really don't see a radical change like this happening anytime soon. FIRST is all about growth right now, and this kind of thing(extensive autonomous or programming heavy games, if I get what you're saying) is very tough on rookie teams, and would probably discourage them. Stacking is cool though.
Edit: or did you mean just that the players just can't see the field and have to use video to do so?
F22Rapture
21-09-2012, 18:17
I really don't see a radical change like this happening anytime soon. FIRST is all about growth right now, and this kind of thing(extensive autonomous or programming heavy games, if I get what you're saying) is very tough on rookie teams, and would probably discourage them. Stacking is cool though.
Edit: or did you mean just that the players just can't see the field and have to use video to do so?
That might actually be pretty cool. Navigation purely by using the RGBd data from the Kinect. I just can't see it actually happening... yet. My guess would be that the Kinect would be more integral to the hybrid mode... either it will be required or worth enough extra points to make it worthwhile.
Regardless of what type of game they go for, I think it's going to be more fast-paced and spectator-friendly. I think the bridges were one of the best endgames we've seen so far... not necessarily difficult but still dramatic because of the occasional 3-robot balance, and yes, flipping robots ;)
That might actually be pretty cool. Navigation purely by using the RGBd data from the Kinect. I just can't see it actually happening... yet. My guess would be that the Kinect would be more integral to the hybrid mode... either it will be required or worth enough extra points to make it worthwhile.
Regardless of what type of game they go for, I think it's going to be more fast-paced and spectator-friendly. I think the bridges were one of the best endgames we've seen so far... not necessarily difficult but still dramatic because of the occasional 3-robot balance, and yes, flipping robots ;)
Yeah the GDC wants the game to be entertaining, so therefore whatever game they come up with has to be entertaining
Ravage457
22-09-2012, 10:52
I think a stacking game is gonna happen, havent seen one since 2005 (Triple Play), and they havent used a tetra since then, but more than likely it gotta be a stacking game
Ghost-422
01-10-2012, 09:45
Well I think the game is kind of obvious after you think about how FIRST has decided the games in the previous years. In the past they have made the game relate to modern day events. For example, the Lunacy game was the 40th anniversary of the moon landing and the Rebound Rumble game was during the NBA lockout. The only major event going on lately (that I can think of) is the robot landing on Mars. So I think that this year's game will be about the Martian landing.
BlacksmithWoods
01-10-2012, 10:54
I think a stacking game is gonna happen, havent seen one since 2005 (Triple Play), and they havent used a tetra since then, but more than likely it gotta be a stacking game
I agree completely with you. Not to mention that this year is the ten year anniversary of Stack Attack. I would like to see some kind of tetra though.
Ravage457
01-10-2012, 11:45
I agree completely with you. Not to mention that this year is the ten year anniversary of Stack Attack. I would like to see some kind of tetra though.
Yea that true, but the one game mix up i would like to see is Toroid Terror/Triple Play mix together and Raising the bar where you do a pull up as the final part
BlacksmithWoods
01-10-2012, 12:23
Yea that true, but the one game mix up i would like to see is Toroid Terror/Triple Play mix together and Raising the bar where you do a pull up as the final part
So something similar to the Breakaway Endgame?
sebflippers
01-10-2012, 19:16
How about a button or a pressure plate that robots activate that changes the field in some way? i.e. one robot stays gets on a pressure plate that opens a door and holds it while a teammate goes through. If the first robot gets pushed off of there by an opponent, the second robot will be stuck until somebody can open the door and save him.
SRaymond
01-10-2012, 22:25
I personally want a game based loosely on racing, maybe have the robots go around an obstacle course of some sort while carrying an object like a crate or a ball, and take the average of each alliances' robots' times and who evers faster while still carrying the ball would win
F22Rapture
01-10-2012, 22:28
Similar to 2008, then?
How about a button or a pressure plate that robots activate that changes the field in some way? i.e. one robot stays gets on a pressure plate that opens a door and holds it while a teammate goes through. If the first robot gets pushed off of there by an opponent, the second robot will be stuck until somebody can open the door and save him.
Very cool Idea. Always thought that some way of disabling an opponent would be interesting.
The only major event going on lately (that I can think of) is the robot landing on Mars. So I think that this year's game will be about the Martian landing.
Also, NASA's support and involvement in FIRST makes it even more likely. The question is how would they do that. IMHO, landing robots from the ceiling seems a bit outlandish.
IMHO, landing robots from the ceiling seems a bit outlandish.
End game: Suspend your robot before the floor drops a la sky crane :ahh:
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