2012 Rah Cha Cha Ruckus

[GCentola]

Hello Everyone!

The Ruckus Planning Committee is pleased to announce that the 2012 Rah Cha Cha Ruckus will be held on Saturday, October 27th from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm. This year, we are proud to announce that we have expanded to the 25,000 square foot Dome Arena (http://www.fairandexpocenter.org/pictures/dome_layout.gif)in Henrietta! The new venue is bigger, provides more seating, has many hotels and food options nearby and is easily accessible from the NYS Thruway! Team registration is now open, and we hope that your team can come! Ruckus is a great time to train new members of the team before the new season starts and offers a fun atmosphere with less of the stress of a regional competition! The registration fee is $100 (which is way cheaper than many other off-season events), and as always, 2013 pre-rookies can compete for free (the committee will make sure you have a robot to compete with if you would like).

We are really excited to grow our event, and look forward to bringing you an even better Ruckus! We are planning lots of exciting activities including the annual "Pie-in-the-Eye." Moving into a bigger and better venue will allow us to expand our event and provide a better experience for everyone! Event schedule, rule changes, volunteer registration and some fun events are still being worked on, but we will be sure to keep everyone updated!

The event website can be found at www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com
The event Facebook page can be found at http://www.facebook.com/rahchacharuckus ("Like" the page for the updates and information!)

We hope to see you there!

[LeelandS]

I'll throw in a bit of a shameless plug for Ruckus. The Rah Cha Cha Ruckus is an absolutely fantastic event. It may not be a major off-season competition like IRI or MARC, but it's always a fantastically competitive event, and it always a lot of fun. It's a one day event, and the environment is extremely relaxed. It really is as much of a Robotics Halloween Party as a competition.

In the past, Ruckus has drawn the attention of a lot of high-profile teams. It usually contains the local power teams, like 1126, 191, 229, 1559, 1507 and many others. However, in the past years, we've also seen attendance from major out-of-state teams like 188, 610 and 48. By attending, you'll be going to compete against some very strong teams who you can learn a lot from!

It's an amazing opportunity, all for $100, and though the venue in the past has been a little tight, now that it's moving to The Dome Arena, it's going to be able to accommodate an off-season on the rise! I'm extremely excited for The Rah Cha Cha Ruckus!

[Chris is me]

2791 will be there. We're technically not "out of state" but we haven't been up in the Rochester area since our rookie year. See you there!

[stundt1]

Two questions

1.) Since its a bigger venue will more teams be attending?

2.) Does anyone have the match footage from last year? I never could find it.

Im looking forward to this and its still months away :)
Here is a video of the dome for teams who are curious of how big it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovoDgKpR-Aw

[smistthegreat]

If all of the regulars show up, this may be one of the most intense Ruckuses yet.

[GCentola]

Two questions

1.) Since its a bigger venue will more teams be attending?

2.) Does anyone have the match footage from last year? I never could find it.

Im looking forward to this and its still months away :)
Here is a video of the dome for teams who are curious of how big it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovoDgKpR-Aw

1) We are hoping that expanding into the dome will draw in some more teams and make Ruckus even more exciting! We are also working on some really cool things that the larger venue will allow,whereas we did not have the space in Webster.

2) I don't know. Sorry.

3)The dome video is awesome! There is also a link in the original post that brings you to the floor plan. The video linked to (to those that don't know) is of the Rochester Rampage, an event where many local teams can show off their robots at the Monroe County Fair on a full field.

[LeelandS]

6 teams have already registered for the Rah Cha Cha Ruckus! Delphi ELITE - 48, Blizzard - 188, X-Cats - 191, RoboCats - 379, Rolling Thunder - 1511, and Shaker Robotics - 2791! An excellent first six teams for The Ruckus! Who will join these six great teams?!

[Justin Montois]

Being in the Dome will be a welcomed change for sure. 340 will be there.

[pfreivald]

Yup, that's pretty cool. 1551 will be there, too.

[Robby Unruh]

3266 is stoked to be attending with our friends from 1126 and 578. :cool:

[robowrestler]

team 3015 will be there!

[stundt1]

578 Is going to be there ready for another amazing ruckus. :)

[Travis Hoffman]

We were happy to be the first team to register. :)

[Koko Ed]

We were happy to be the first team to register. :)

Technically 1511 was the first to register since they are running the show...

[Travis Hoffman]

Technically 1511 was the first to register since they are running the show...

Did they go through the actual website registration process? No? Then nyahhh. :p Besides, Kristen Gerstung told me we were first. Who am I to argue with her? :)

[Koko Ed]

The team list so far:
48
188
191
379
610
1507
1511
2791

[stundt1]

Me thinks there will be Canadian dominance this ruckus.

Also is alliance selections going to be the same as last year Ed?

[Travis Hoffman]

Me thinks there will be Canadian dominance this ruckus.

Also is alliance selections going to be the same as last year Ed?

Methinks that remains to be seen.

Depending on number of teams registering, I hope they remove the restriction of not picking within the top four seeds.

[mhat_ios]

Me thinks there will be Canadian dominance this ruckus.

Also is alliance selections going to be the same as last year Ed?

What was so special about last year's alliance selection? (Didn't go with the team last year.)

[Nick Lawrence]

The team list so far:
48
188
191
379
610
1507
1511
2791

I'm happy to see many friends have registered, including 2791 from way out near Troy.

Even with this early list I can tell that Ruckus will be quite an event. Looking Forward to it!

-Nick

[GCentola]

Even with this early list I can tell that Ruckus will be quite an event. Looking Forward to it!

Nick must be Looking Forward!

What was so special about last year's alliance selection? (Didn't go with the team last year.)

Last year, the top 4 teams could not pick within the top 4 teams, so as to try and balance out the top teams so the matches would no be a complete blowout.

[LeelandS]

The team list so far:
48
188
191
379
610
1507
1511
2791

Those 8 teams by themselves are extremely intimidating :D

[smistthegreat]

Just a little bit of data on the 8 teams already registered:

The 8 teams so far have a combined record of 232 wins, 107 losses, and 3 ties. They also have a combined 6 regional wins and 6 regional finalists. This is going to be an incredible event.

[rees2001]

340 is in!

[LeelandS]

I'm happy to see many friends have registered, including 2791 from way out near Troy.

Even with this early list I can tell that Ruckus will be quite an event. Looking Forward to it!

-Nick

Is it bad that when I read this, my first thought was "Nick, is 1503 coming to Ruckus!?!" Yeah... I realized my folly :o Unless you really know if 1503 is coming to Ruckus.

Do you think we could get an "Eh-Team" at Ruckus - 1503, 188 and 610?

[Nick Lawrence]

Is it bad that when I read this, my first thought was "Nick, is 1503 coming to Ruckus!?!" Yeah... I realized my folly :o Unless you really know if 1503 is coming to Ruckus.

Do you think we could get an "Eh-Team" at Ruckus - 1503, 188 and 610?

Considering 1503 didn't apply for IRI, I would be suprised to see that they don't register for Ruckus. I know that Spartillery isn't done and would love to improve on her finalist appearance at Waterloo earlier this year.

As for the possibility of an Eh-Team happening, well this is Ruckus, where strange things happen...

-Nick

[Travis Hoffman]

Nick must be Looking Forward!



We should pie him in the face to celebrate!

[Gregor]

Me thinks there will be Canadian dominance this ruckus.


I have to agree. 610 and 188 are a formidable combo.

[Travis Hoffman]

I have to agree. 610 and 188 are a formidable combo.

As are 48/610, 1507/188, 1507/610, 48/1507, 48/188 (partners last year at Ruckus), 48/3193, 1507/340, and any number of other combinations from teams who've applied and have yet to apply (I think 3193 from NEOFRAland is going to register, but not yet sure).

Regardless of alliance combos, it will be a fun, competitive time for all. I'm lookinG forwarD to it. :)

[GCentola]

Some more teams are now in! The team list is:

48
188
191
340 and "3402"
379
610
1507
1511
1551
2791

[Gregor]

Some more teams are now in! The team list is:

48
188
191
340 and "3402"
379
610
1507
1511
1551
2791

Do you know yet what your team capacity is?

[GCentola]

Do you know yet what your team capacity is?

With a larger venue, we will be able to comfortably hold more than our standard 24. Right now, I think we have space laid out for 32 teams.

[Chris is me]

I'm happy to see many friends have registered, including 2791 from way out near Troy.

Took us long enough to end up at the same event again, eh? There's a shirt waiting for you when you get there.

[Nick Lawrence]

Took us long enough to end up at the same event again, eh? There's a shirt waiting for you when you get there.

Only three years. :P

I'm really happy about the new venue. The high school was a good venue, but this one looks to be quite superb.

-Nick

[stundt1]

Does 48 have a stinger like thing to help them triple balance?

I know 610 can triple with their arm like stabilizer.

Does anyone else have something to triple balance with?

Sorry if im forgetting anyone.

[LeelandS]

Does 48 have a stinger like thing to help them triple balance?

I know 610 can triple with their arm like stabilizer.

Does anyone else have something to triple balance with?

Sorry if im forgetting anyone.

340 has a stinger, 1507 has drive brakes. That's all I know.

If 48 has a stinger, I'm not aware of it. But Travis could answer that better. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if they add one for IRI and carried that over to Ruckus. Purely speculation, however.

[stundt1]

340 has a stinger, 1507 has drive brakes. That's all I know.

If 48 has a stinger, I'm not aware of it. But Travis could answer that better. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if they add one for IRI and carried that over to Ruckus. Purely speculation, however.

I saw a video of them testing it with 3193 I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1wugVzdhG0&feature=channel&list=UL

[Travis Hoffman]

I saw a video of them testing it with 3193 I believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1wugVzdhG0&feature=channel&list=UL

My favorite cheesy video ever. We've had a stinger since Queen City but have not had the opportunity to use it in competition. The vid starting around 4:10 does show the stinger's capability, however. We can hang almost half the robot off the bridge - center wheel close to the lip. Would prefer not to get that close!

[heydowns]

Also is alliance selections going to be the same as last year Ed?

This is something the Ruckus committee is still looking at for 2012. Last year was our first look at the "top 4" restriction and changing/revising/removing that is certainly something we're looking at. As many of you long-time attenders know, we've done different things in the past with respect to alliance selection due to the smaller venue size (relative to a regional) with the goal of making the event both competitive and fun. We'll do our best again this year!

Someone asked about capacity -- we have a tentative floor plan with space for 32 teams, but this is not a hard cap and it incorporates a healthy amount of "elbow" room in isles, robot traffic lanes, etc. If there is an influx of registrations (hint?? :)) this can be adjusted and we can easily accommodate more teams!

I'd like to encourage all teams who plan to attend to register sooner rather than later. This generates more hype for the event and ultimately leads to a more epic experience for all involved! No payment is due now, so if you know you'll be coming there's nothing holding you back -- get your team leader to register! :)

[pfreivald]

I just found out the publication date for my first novel... October 27th, 2012!

Ruckus book signing, anyone? :)

[Grim Tuesday]

Teams signed up right now make this more than a regional level event. Very excited to say that you can look forward to seeing 639 on the list whenever we get around to registering.

[Koko Ed]

I just found out the publication date for my first novel... October 27th, 2012!

Ruckus book signing, anyone? :)

Well, it's a Zombie story so it's definitely Halloween-centric and you are a well respected FIRST mentor so it's still FIRST-centric so I'll bring it up at the next meeting and see how the committee feels about it.

[pfreivald]

Well, it's a Zombie story so it's definitely Halloween-centric and you are a well respected FIRST mentor so it's still FIRST-centric so I'll bring it up at the next meeting and see how the committee feels about it.

I was somewhat kidding, but how about if I donate some of the profits to 1511 and 1551?

[Koko Ed]

I was somewhat kidding, but how about if I donate some of the profits to 1511 and 1551?

That sounds like a great idea.

[pfreivald]

That sounds like a great idea.

FYI, there is a small possibility that books will not arrive in time, and I'll only know if and when they do. (I'm ordering them through a local book store, and shipping times from the publisher are not guaranteed -- they may be +/- a week.)

[LeelandS]

My favorite cheesy video ever. We've had a stinger since Queen City but have not had the opportunity to use it in competition. The vid starting around 4:10 does show the stinger's capability, however. We can hang almost half the robot off the bridge - center wheel close to the lip. Would prefer not to get that close!

I'm astounded by how much 48/3193's machine can hang off the bridge. It looks like it's just barely hanging on for dear life, but it balances. So 1507, 340 and 610 have balancing aids, as does 48, and, if they attend, 3193.

[Nick Lawrence]

I'm astounded by how much 48/3193's machine can hang off the bridge. It looks like it's just barely hanging on for dear life, but it balances. So 1507, 340 and 610 have balancing aids, as does 48, and, if they attend, 3193.

Other teams like 188 have plenty of triple balance experience too.

-Nick

[stundt1]

Other teams like 188 have plenty of triple balance experience too.

-Nick

We can add 639 to that list basically they tripled at flr and Champs and dc I believe?

But the thing to note is not all the same drive teams form competition are the same for the ruckus. But it shows their robots have the capability of it.

[pfreivald]

Our drive coach will be the same, but our drivers are graduating. :eek:

[Tetraman]

I'm trying my hardest to make sure 174's mentors get the memo about it this year. There was a lot of talk among the mentors about Ruckus being a "must go" before the season began. So, cross your fingers...

[GCentola]

Our drive coach will be the same, but our drivers are graduating. :eek:

3/4 of this year's Drive Team were seniors. We typically have 2 Drive Teams at Ruckus just to allow more people to have the experience and try out. The only veteran will be our operator.

[Koko Ed]

The current Ruckus team list:
48
188
191
340
379
610
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3266
3951

[George C]

FRC 1334, The Red Devils, are very pleased to be able attend the Ruckus in October. Our first off-season event since the end of the Canada's Wonderland version.

[Koko Ed]

FRC 1334, The Red Devils, are very pleased to be able attend the Ruckus in October. Our first off-season event since the end of the Canada's Wonderland version.

I'm hoping Canada's Wonderland (or something like it ) can one day return.

[Travis Hoffman]

I'm hoping Canada's Wonderland (or something like it ) can one day return.

Word. I'm not renewing my passport for nothing.

[GCentola]

After a new addition from Canada, the current Ruckus team list is:
48
188
191
340
379
610
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3266
3683
3951

This year's Ruckus is shaping up to be a fantastic event in a great new venue! We have more space than before and we would love to see some more teams! It's a great time, and a fantastic way to train new members before the new season starts!

[GCentola]

Hey Everyone! Registration is still open and we would love to have your team come to Ruckus! It really is a great event, and the new location will make this year's Ruckus even better! We have a a lot of teams already registered, and many are from Canada (is Ruckus the new Canada's Wonderland? :P ) Right now, local teams are participating n the Rochester Rampage at the fair, so I took the opportunity to take a picture of the new facility! Hope to see you there!

[Fletch1373]

I noticed the volunteers page on the website says that volunteer registration is expected to open at the end of June. It's halfway through July now, any update?

[Tetraman]

I got word from the higher ups...looks like 174 is not going again.

[GCentola]

I noticed the volunteers page on the website says that volunteer registration is expected to open at the end of June. It's halfway through July now, any update?
There were a few things that needed to be worked out before registration opened. The latest update says it should hopefully open towards the end of this week. Sorry for the delay, and thank you for your interest in volunteering!

I got word from the higher ups...looks like 174 is not going again.

Evan, that is unfortunate to hear. 174 had a great robot this year. Hopefully the Arctic Warriors will be able to make it up someday :)

[Libby K]

Just need to get the A-OK from our school teachers in order to really register, but 229 and 4124 plan on being there. :)

[Tetraman]

Evan, that is unfortunate to hear. 174 had a great robot this year. Hopefully the Arctic Warriors will be able to make it up someday :)

Its still not official that we won't go, but the team is going though some major changes this off season and as much as the mentors were determined to go the beginning of this season, once you get to the time everyone falls back into their usual place once the dust of competition settles.

Maybe if you got all the rochester teams to call our team mentors? haha.

[Cal578]

Team 578, Red Raider Robotics, is now registered! We're very much looking forward to returning to this exciting event. Especially now that we'll be in the big dome at the fairgrounds!

We didn't immediately show up on the team list page, but I have received the confirmation email. So, there are now 18 teams attending the Ruckus:
48
188
191
340
379
578
610
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3266
3683
3951

Good luck, everyone!

[Nick Lawrence]

Man, this is going to be one tough event. Looking Forward to October!

-Nick

[Justin Montois]

I don't know if it's been brought up, but if we get 24 teams, I think we should have free reign for alliance selections.

There are enough good teams attending where each alliance has the chance of being competitive.

Gone should be the days of freezing the Top 6 or whatever

[Nick Lawrence]

I don't know if it's been brought up, but if we get 24 teams, I think we should have free reign for alliance selections.

There are enough good teams attending where each alliance has the chance of being competitive.

Gone should be the days of freezing the Top 6 or whatever

This would be awesome. I think we'll get at least 24 teams, I mean it's only July and we already have 18.

-Nick

[GCentola]

The more teams, the better! 18 teams (a good portion from outside the area) in mid July is a great start! This year is gonna be great!

I don't know if it's been brought up, but if we get 24 teams, I think we should have free reign for alliance selections. There are enough good teams attending where each alliance has the chance of being competitive.

The draft process hasn't been determined yet but that point will be considered! I just hope we dont end up with 25 teams-that could make it a bit awkward for the one team that doesnt make it :P

[Justin Montois]

The more teams, the better! 18 teams (a good portion from outside the area) in mid July is a great start! This year is gonna be great!



The draft process hasn't been determined yet but that point will be considered! I just hope we dont end up with 25 teams-that could make it a bit awkward for the one team that doesnt make it :P

All the more reason to have legit alliance selections. That 25th team would be so inspired to get better.

[Grim Tuesday]

Just wanted to drop in and say that 639 is now officially registered. We're not on the teams list yet but we did get the confirmation email.

[Libby K]

229 is in! Still waiting to hear on whether I can put 4124 in as well.

EDIT: I just got, like, 5 versions of the 'thanks for registering!' email. Just for clarification, we only want to enter 229 ONCE... :P

[Chris Fultz]

I wish the east coast was a little closer to Indiana.

So many cool off-season events, but nearly impossible to attend during the school year.

[esquared]

229 is in! Still waiting to hear on whether I can put 4124 in as well.

EDIT: I just got, like, 5 versions of the 'thanks for registering!' email. Just for clarification, we only want to enter 229 ONCE... :P

"Dear team representative, thank you for registering 5 teams and we look forward to seeing you at the Ruckus!"
--"Ruckus committee"

[LeelandS]

229 is in! Still waiting to hear on whether I can put 4124 in as well.

EDIT: I just got, like, 5 versions of the 'thanks for registering!' email. Just for clarification, we only want to enter 229 ONCE... :P

I guess that's what happens when you divide by zero.

[GCentola]

229 is in! Still waiting to hear on whether I can put 4124 in as well.

EDIT: I just got, like, 5 versions of the 'thanks for registering!' email. Just for clarification, we only want to enter 229 ONCE... :P

Libby, registering 229 once brings us to 20 teams! If the other 4 teams register, we will already have 24! :P

The Team list is now:
48
188
191
229
340
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3266
3683
3951

[Libby K]

I guess that's what happens when you divide by zero.

Ba-dum PSSSHHHHH.

:)

We hope to be bringing your roster up to 21 with 4124, but, like I said - waiting to hear back.

[LeelandS]

Ba-dum PSSSHHHHH.

Thank you, thank you. My comedy stylings will be gracing Ruckus once again this year. Now if only someone would give me a mic...


We hope to be bringing your roster up to 21 with 4124, but, like I said - waiting to hear back.

This would be huge. As an event that historically has only had enough teams to support 7 alliances (about 21 teams, least year as an exception), it would be great to have 21 teams 3 months before the event!

Hopefully even more teams sign up this year and we don't need a team to duplicate themselves to hit 24! *coughcough3402coughcough* :)

[dsherw00d]

378 Registered. We are looking forward to it as usual.

[GCentola]

Thank you, thank you. My comedy stylings will be gracing Ruckus once again this year. Now if only someone would give me a mic..

Uhhhh.....how about a pie in the face?

Hopefully even more teams sign up this year and we don't need a team to duplicate themselves to hit 24! *coughcough3402coughcough* :)

340 has 2 robots anyway, and we all know that it should be 424, not 3402 :P

378 Registered. We are looking forward to it as usual.

Awesome! 21 teams so far! This is going to be a great event!
48
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3266
3683
3951

[LeelandS]

Uhhhh.....how about a pie in the face?

Yeah, how about that? Who do I talk to to sign up for this? Though I doubt I'd get as many tickets as last year (since I was fresh off 1126 then) I'd still like to!

[Koko Ed]

The website lists 3181 on the list as well. That makes 22 teams signed up!
48
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2791
3181
3266
3683
3951

[LeelandS]

The following teams attended Ruckus last year, and have not yet been noted as attending in this thread:

306
1518
2228
2340
3157
3173

If these teams come back for this round, we could get 28 teams! With the potential attendance of 3193 and 4124, we may even get to 30!

[Koko Ed]

The following teams attended Ruckus last year, and have not yet been noted as attending in this thread:

306
1518
2228
2340
3157
3173

If these teams come back for this round, we could get 28 teams! With the potential attendance of 3193 and 4124, we may even get to 30!

Don't forget the possibility of pre rookies.

[GCentola]

Sorry for the long delay! Volunteer Registration is now open! Thank you to everyone who will help make the 2012 Ruckus one of the best yet! Visit http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/ to sign up!

[Tetraman]

I have to check a few things before I confirm if I can volunteer or not. Outlook not so good, but I'll see. With it nearing 24 teams, I think I'll have to make a few excuses and find a way there anyway.

[pfreivald]

Hey Ruckusians, 1551 has a small dilemma. (That is to say, we're cheap and are hoping for a solution that allows us to continue being so...)

Our bridge met a brutal and final end during Buckeye. There was fire in the pits... As such, we have no official FIRST bridge, and because FIRST will be changing to a new system for this coming year, we are disinclined to purchase a new one of the same sub-standard model.

Does anyone have an extra bridge that 1551 could borrow for Ruckus purposes? (Or, alternatively, will any old bridge do without causing problems with the FMS?)

Thanks,

Patrick

[stundt1]

I just sent my mentors an email. I will pm you if we have an extra. :)
1551 is an awesome robot and needs to compete...

[heydowns]

Does anyone have an extra bridge that 1551 could borrow for Ruckus purposes? (Or, alternatively, will any old bridge do without causing problems with the FMS?)


Patrick,
If you have one of the older "black square" radios from 2009/2010 you can use that. Consider this an official "ok" for Ruckus :)

If not, 1511 will have your back - just remind one of us as it gets closer.

[heydowns]

BTW -- Now at 23 teams -- who will be #24??

:)

[Joon Park]

Just want to add on: super excited for Ruckus myself. I'll do just about anything for more Rebound Rumble.

[pfreivald]

Patrick,
If you have one of the older "black square" radios from 2009/2010 you can use that. Consider this an official "ok" for Ruckus :)

If not, 1511 will have your back - just remind one of us as it gets closer.

Sweet. We'll try to find it!

(Due to the capital project we've been displaced for the summer. All our stuff is in crates, and we're working out of a building that has no power!)

[Cal578]

578 has a spare bridge. We'll bring it just in case anyone needs it.

[jwfoss]

With a large number of our friends (and former students) attending this event, 2168 is currently seriously discussing sending up at least a skeleton crew with the Fat Swan.

[Koko Ed]

With a large number of our friends (and former students) attending this event, 2168 is currently seriously discussing sending up at least a skeleton crew with the Fat Swan.

Yes! Do it! DO IT!

[Cal578]

With a larger venue, we will be able to comfortably hold more than our standard 24. Right now, I think we have space laid out for 32 teams.

Do we expect to have 10x10' pits? This would be a great chance for all teams to experiment with pit improvements before regionals.

[smistthegreat]

With a large number of our friends (and former students) attending this event, 2168 is currently seriously discussing sending up at least a skeleton crew with the Fat Swan.

Fingers crossed!

[O'Sancheski]

With a large number of our friends (and former students) attending this event, 2168 is currently seriously discussing sending up at least a skeleton crew with the Fat Swan.

I would love to see the fat swan one more time before it goes into retirement. I'm sure Tim would too.:p

[reymac]

Team 73 is now registered for the Ruckus.

We are making plans for rebuilding the robot to make it a scoring robot.
Look forward to posting pics and seeing you guys there.

[Koko Ed]

Team 73 is now registered for the Ruckus.

We are making plans for rebuilding the robot to make it a scoring robot.
Look forward to posting pics and seeing you guys there.

and with that we've hit 24.
We have room for more!

[esquared]

With a large number of our friends (and former students) attending this event, 2168 is currently seriously discussing sending up at least a skeleton crew with the Fat Swan.

If you do, I can bring 2 (3 if someone likes riding on the backseat hump of a Subaru for 4.5 hours) of your teammates along when we head out from Boston if you are looking for seats.

If we could convince 2168 and 558 to come from CT, and 2791 to come from Albany, we could make it a Clarkson University alumni event just like the CT and Boston Regionals this year :D

[Libby K]

If we could convince 2168 and 558 to come from CT, and 2791 to come from Albany, we could make it a Clarkson University alumni event just like the CT and Boston Regionals this year :D

That would be awesome. Clarkson University and its alumni seem to have taken over New England. Let's take over Ruckus, too! :P

[Chris is me]

If we could convince 2168 and 558 to come from CT, and 2791 to come from Albany, we could make it a Clarkson University alumni event just like the CT and Boston Regionals this year :D

As an RPI student, I'm quite disappointed with the recent infection of Clarkson onto our team. :P One of 2791's alumni goes to Clarkson and our current drive coach is himself a Clarkson alum, so they outnumber me... Maybe I should transfer.

Will there be mentor matches at this year's Ruckus? I wanna play again!

[Koko Ed]

As an RPI student, I'm quite disappointed with the recent infection of Clarkson onto our team. :P One of 2791's alumni goes to Clarkson and our current drive coach is himself a Clarkson alum, so they outnumber me... Maybe I should transfer.

Will there be mentor matches at this year's Ruckus? I wanna play again!
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaybe.
Me and Alex are bouncing around ideas for a fun game to play during the event but perhaps we could make way for a little mentor match action too. We'll ask the committee next meeting.

[heydowns]

Do we expect to have 10x10' pits? This would be a great chance for all teams to experiment with pit improvements before regionals.

One of the guiding goals of Ruckus is providing a safe and comfortable event while retaining exciting and fun competition. Our intent is to provide normal size 10x10 pits with that in mind. We cannot promise this for certain quite yet but it is certainly one of our high priority goals.
Also for those who have attended in recent years and found seating tight you will be happy to know the new venue will comfortably seat approximately 1400 people the way we have it currently configured.

[Travis Hoffman]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaybe.
Me and Alex are bouncing around ideas for a fun game to play during the event but perhaps we could make way for a little mentor match action too. We'll ask the committee next meeting.

If I'm driving in mentor rounds, I'm playing lots of defense. :cool:

...mainly because I'm doubting any copilot candidates can score. Defense and balancing, for the win!

[Fletch1373]

As an RPI student, I'm quite disappointed with the recent infection of Clarkson onto our team. :P One of 2791's alumni goes to Clarkson and our current drive coach is himself a Clarkson alum, so they outnumber me... Maybe I should transfer.

Will there be mentor matches at this year's Ruckus? I wanna play again!

Yes, I hear RIT could use a few more FIRST alumni! (And we're mere minutes from the ruckus venue... and host a regional... ;) )

[Libby K]

Yes, I hear RIT could use a few more FIRST alumni! (And we're mere minutes from the ruckus venue... and host a regional... ;) )

Ahh, but does RIT have a 40-student dormitory for FIRST alumni?
(that we get so many applicants to we actually have to turn people away...)
And work with three FIRST programs (FLL, FTC, FRC, plus additional competitive robotics programs in other countries)?
And give tons of scholarships?
And have a SWEET VAN (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600029_10150854342937032_857560793_n.jpg)?

Nope, that's all Clarkson.
:)

(Disclaimer: I'm only jesting. Yes, I love Clarkson, but that's because I go there. I'm sure any school anyone might personally decide on will be great- I just love how big a part FIRST plays in the Clarkson culture. :) )

[Koko Ed]

Ahh, but does RIT have a 40-student dormitory for FIRST alumni?
(that we get so many applicants to we actually have to turn people away...)
And work with three FIRST programs (FLL, FTC, FRC, plus additional competitive robotics programs in other countries)?
And give tons of scholarships?
And have a SWEET VAN (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600029_10150854342937032_857560793_n.jpg)?

Nope, that's all Clarkson.
:)

(Disclaimer: I'm only jesting. Yes, I love Clarkson, but that's because I go there. I'm sure any school anyone might personally decide on will be great- I just love how big a part FIRST plays in the Clarkson culture. :) )
Bring that van to Ruckus!
It'll be a big hit with the kids!

[Libby K]

Bring that van to Ruckus!
It'll be a big hit with the kids!

It's shared among FIRST efforts, our work with the school districts, and our (new!) Traveling Museum - but I'll see if we can get it. :)

[Fletch1373]

Ahh, but does RIT have a 40-student dormitory for FIRST alumni?
(that we get so many applicants to we actually have to turn people away...)
And work with three FIRST programs (FLL, FTC, FRC, plus additional competitive robotics programs in other countries)?
And give tons of scholarships?
And have a SWEET VAN (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600029_10150854342937032_857560793_n.jpg)?

Nope, that's all Clarkson.
:)

(Disclaimer: I'm only jesting. Yes, I love Clarkson, but that's because I go there. I'm sure any school anyone might personally decide on will be great- I just love how big a part FIRST plays in the Clarkson culture. :) )

No, No, No, No, and No... BUT, we have a lazy river in our Field House... and lots of other cool stuff... I'm in the process of trying to make FIRST a bit bigger in the RIT community, but don't currently have very much to show for it. Oh well. Soon I hope!

[stundt1]

Actuallty im considering both rit and clarkson just visited clarkson a few weeks ago and saw the robot van :P

Going to be a hs senior this year. :D

Sorry for the offtopic post

[Fletch1373]

Actuallty im considering both rit and clarkson just visited clarkson a few weeks ago and saw the robot van :P

Going to be a hs senior this year. :D

Sorry for the offtopic post

Steve, I'm glad to hear you're considering both schools!

RIT has some amazing programs, clubs/organizations, and overall opportunities.

Don't let either of our opinions sway you either way. Choose the school that you like best, even if it's neither of them. Take tours of all of them, do research online, ask current students what their opinions are(yes, I know I'm contradicting myself there... but we both obviously love our schools so it's ok), and definitely make sure to talk to the departments that house your anticipated major. Talk to the advisor(s) if you can and get a feel for how that college/major will help you in your future career goals, and in your life as a whole.

And on top of all else, stay involved with what you love! Obviously I'm talking about FIRST, but it applies to everything else in life as well.

[stundt1]

Don't let either of our opinions sway you either way. Choose the school that you like best, even if it's neither of them. Take tours of all of them, do research online, ask current students what their opinions are(yes, I know I'm contradicting myself there... but we both obviously love our schools so it's ok), and definitely make sure to talk to the departments that house your anticipated major. Talk to the advisor(s) if you can and get a feel for how that college/major will help you in your future career goals, and in your life as a whole.

And on top of all else, stay involved with what you love! Obviously I'm talking about FIRST, but it applies to everything else in life as well.

Your opinions arent swaying me don't worry. Both are nice schools.

Ive visited both and have taken tours and have researched them online a lot.

Soon to come the decisions.
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If we get 32 teams at the ruckus can we do backups like IRI?

[Travis Hoffman]

Your opinions arent swaying me don't worry. Both are nice schools.

Ive visited both and have taken tours and have researched them online a lot.

Soon to come the decisions.
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If we get 32 teams at the ruckus can we do backups like IRI?

I'm game with that but only if IRI picking rules are in place and AC's are free to use backups however they like - no forced usage.

[stundt1]

I was just wondering for backups so none of the teams feel left out :]
Travis do you mean full IRI rules including the no co-op?

I don't know if the ruckus teams are going to be able to triple like a lot of teams at IRI did.

I think only 3 teams have balancing aids 610,48,340.
But only 610 used it in competition if im not mistaken.

[Chi Meson]

Aluminum Falcons have registered.

Looks like the Swan Song will be in Rochester.

[rees2001]

I was just wondering for backups so none of the teams feel left out :]
Travis do you mean full IRI rules including the no co-op?

I don't know if the ruckus teams are going to be able to triple like a lot of teams at IRI did.

I think only 3 teams have balancing aids 610,48,340.
But only 610 used it in competition if im not mistaken.

340 used the stinger a few times at IRI. It worked as it was supposed to, quick and flawlessly. I'm all for the IRI rules. We were king of the co-op though.

[stundt1]

340 used the stinger a few times at IRI. It worked as it was supposed to, quick and flawlessly. I'm all for the IRI rules. We were king of the co-op though.

I havent watched all the IRI footage yet im saving that for the drive for when im going on vacation.

Did 48 use their stinger at IRI Travis?

[Travis Hoffman]

I was just wondering for backups so none of the teams feel left out :]
Travis do you mean full IRI rules including the no co-op?



I am marginally opposed to no co-op bridge. I am very much against applying any form of IRI qualifying triple balance rules out of principle, but if most everyone makes the elimination rounds, any resultant blar randomly doled out due to the rule would be mitigated.

If I had a say, I'd want to see stock Rebound Rumble. Many robots are tired and plenty of drive teams are going to be new and/or rusty. I really don't look forward to random combinations of that reality attempting to triple in quals. Six year olds playing soccer comes to mind, as does the "agony of defeat" ski jumper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSLB-43laE&feature=related).

Also, as many of the students we would be bringing would be brand new, I'd like to show them a game with the original FRC-intent elements in place, and that includes the coopertition element. You can be certain it will be a part of future FRC games - get them used to the concept now.

I havent watched all the IRI footage yet im saving that for the drive for when im going on vacation.

Did 48 use their stinger at IRI Travis?

Didn't need to in the match we tripled with 469 and 4334. Barely had to overhang. Didn't/couldn't attempt any triples in other matches.

[pfreivald]

We're not sure how much additional functionality we'll have at the Ruckus -- we have no shop for the summer due to the capital project (they literally knocked down the tech rooms and are rebuilding from scratch), and may not have a shop before the Ruckus at all!

So hopefully we'll have a re-vamped shooter and a stinger, but we might not...

[Tetraman]

I think IRI rules could happen, though I'd much prefer regular rules.

[Koko Ed]

Aluminum Falcons have registered.

Looks like the Swan Song will be in Rochester.

CD needs a BOO-YEAH!!! and virtual high five button!

[jwfoss]

I think only 3 teams have balancing aids 610,48,340.
But only 610 used it in competition if im not mistaken.

2168 Also has had a functioning stinger/peg leg since the CT regional, and we are looking forward to making the trip up north. I haven't been to Ruckus since 2009 when I was a mentor (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34305) for 229.

I'll do my best to convince the team to costume up for it.

[GCentola]

I think IRI rules could happen, though I'd much prefer regular rules.

The current rule changes are posted here: http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/competition-rules/

There are a few more things being discussed (alliance selection included) but we do not plan on changing the game significantly.


-Garrick

[Chris is me]

I'd be fine with IRI rules. This has nothing to do with being a wide robot at all. Nope.

Glad to see our friends 2168 attending.

[Tetraman]

The current rule changes are posted here: http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/competition-rules/

There are a few more things being discussed (alliance selection included) but we do not plan on changing the game significantly.


-Garrick

I like what I see.

Also, I would say that the top four seeds can't pick each other is a good rule to continue for a small event, and 1-8-1-8 alliance selections work in that scenario. But maybe all of those rules PLUS IRI rules might be too much.

One last question, when is the last day to sign up for Ruckus? I'm gonna make one more plee to 174 and giving them a final day might help planning and their decision.

[Libby K]

No, No, No, No, and No... BUT, we have a lazy river in our Field House... and lots of other cool stuff... I'm in the process of trying to make FIRST a bit bigger in the RIT community, but don't currently have very much to show for it. Oh well. Soon I hope!

Well, hey - if you'd like some tips and tricks... send me a PM. FIRST involvement is something we all should have. :)

Actuallty im considering both rit and clarkson just visited clarkson a few weeks ago and saw the robot van :P

Going to be a hs senior this year. :D

Sorry for the offtopic post

Great to know you're considering both! I hope you'll come up to Clarkson during the school year - we happily give any FIRSTer a tour of all of our robotics outreach programs and facilities, including the dorm. If you've got any questions, feel free to PM me. :)

[GCentola]

With the recent addition of 4093, Joe's Average Slackers, and 3193 (FalcoTech) we now have 27 teams registered for Ruckus! There is still room for more teams!

48
73
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2168
2791
3044
3181
3193
3266
3683
3951
4093

Remember, Volunteer registration is now open! Sign up to help make Ruckus even better! http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/

[stundt1]

Hey,

Will there be wifi at the dome? I wanted to tryout some different scouting techniques for our team.

I didn't get to go to the rally this year so I don't know if there is wifi...

[Nick Lawrence]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaybe.
Me and Alex are bouncing around ideas for a fun game to play during the event but perhaps we could make way for a little mentor match action too. We'll ask the committee next meeting.

Hmmm, mentor rounds eh? That would be fun. Remind me to steal Travis' GoPro and put it in front of him while he drives.

I miss being behind the glass... wonder if the team would let me have a go.

-Nick

[jwfoss]

The mentor matches at Beantown Blitz this year were awesome, however due to time constants each team only got one match.

What is the proposed structure for these matches anyways?

[Koko Ed]

The mentor matches at Beantown Blitz this year were awesome, however due to time constants each team only got one match.

What is the proposed structure for these matches anyways?

We haven't officially committed to any mentor matches yet. We need to clear it with the committee to see if we have time to do said matches first.

[O'Sancheski]

We haven't officially committed to any mentor matches yet. We need to clear it with the committee to see if we have time to do said matches first.

I would love mentor matches. I don't know if my new team would allow me to be in one but it would be awesome to watch.

[Travis Hoffman]

The current rule changes are posted here: http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/competition-rules/

There are a few more things being discussed (alliance selection included) but we do not plan on changing the game significantly.


-Garrick


*does tentative happy dance*

[heydowns]

Replying to a few different things here -

The current rule changes are posted here: http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/competition-rules/

There are a few more things being discussed (alliance selection included) but we do not plan on changing the game significantly.


Garrick sums up the rules situation quite well. To reiterate, major changes outside alliance pairings and tournament play format are pretty much finalized.

Comments on the alliance selection process are being read and of course being considered. As those who have come in the past to Ruckus know, we strive above all to make this an event that is fun for all attending teams (while still balancing that with the competitive nature of the game!).
One of the committee members will be sure to post here (as well as sending email to registered team contacts) once we finalize alliance selection (please note too that it is a distinct possibility that this will just be "no change" to the process from the FIRST rules).

The situation this year is quite a bit different than years past considering the growth in the number of teams that will be competing.



One last question, when is the last day to sign up for Ruckus? I'm gonna make one more plee to 174 and giving them a final day might help planning and their decision.

Registration for teams does not typically close until about a week or two before the event. However, we're carefully watching registrations to make sure we don't outgrow the venue or have to resort to uncomfortable squishing of team pits. So for teams out there considering coming please do consider registering sooner rather than later :)

Note that payment is not due/expected until the actual day of the event so please do not let that alone delay your team.

Please note: Volunteer registration will likely close much earlier than the timeline given above for team registration - if you want to volunteer please register as soon as you can!! We appreciate the assistance of all our volunteers!



Will there be wifi at the dome? I wanted to tryout some different scouting techniques for our team.


I don't have a certain answer for this at this time, however I would not plan on having this available. We'd love to be able to provide this, but we may not have the resources to do so.

Teams setting up their own access points will not be allowed; pit operation of robots will be "tether" only as traditional at FIRST events. This is quite simply to preserve the reliability of field operation.

I would love mentor matches.

Me too! :) We hope to have more to share on extra events "soon", including possibly mentor matches, pie in the eye, etc. and also our charity drive. Stay tuned!

[Jibsy]

3756 has joined the ranks!

[Libby K]

4124 is in now, too! However, we do draw from the same group of kids (229 was once both schools), so if you need 4124's bot for a pre-rookie, please let me know- we'll bring it either way.

[Travis Hoffman]

I believe 3193 will be attending, as well.

[Koko Ed]

I believe 3193 will be attending, as well.

Garrick listed them ( http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1180303&postcount=127).

[Tetraman]

Registration for teams does not typically close until about a week or two before the event. However, we're carefully watching registrations to make sure we don't outgrow the venue or have to resort to uncomfortable squishing of team pits. So for teams out there considering coming please do consider registering sooner rather than later :)

The mentors are gonna have another talk about ruckus in our next meeting, which is the 20th.

I still don't know if I'm going to be needed as a team mentor or if I could be a volunteer. If the event happens to need an extra hand somewhere the day of and I'm with the team, just let me know and where you need me.

[GCentola]

The mentors are gonna have another talk about ruckus in our next meeting, which is the 20th.

We have 174 down as registered, which makes you the 30th team! We are now about the size of the Waterloo Regional...with enough Canadian Teams to prove it :P

The team list is updated online (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/team-list/team-list-2012/) and includes:
48
73
174
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1511
1551
1559
2168
2791
3044
3181
3193
3266
3683
3756
3951
4093
4124

Everyone else, register soon before it is too late! Remember, Volunteer registration is still open, too!

[Tetraman]

This is what happens when I'm not really in the loop. :P

Woo! 174 is making its first appearance at Ruckus! We are hungry for a competition win, so better bring your A-game everyone!

[Justin Montois]

30 Teams in August is awesome! What's the cap?

This is going to be the best ruckus ever!

[GCentola]

30 Teams in August is awesome! What's the cap?

This is going to be the best ruckus ever!

A) Right now we have space laid out for 32 teams. We may be able to squeeze a few more in. Honestly, I don't think we anticipated having 30 teams already signed up in August.

B)Hopefully! A lot of great teams, a new, bigger venue, and some other things in the works! It will definitely be a great time!

[Tetraman]

Also I'm totally in for a Mentor Match if we are going to do them.

Someone contact 3173! We need the IgKNIGHTers to still join us.

[robowrestler]

3015 is registered and very exited for Ruckus!

[Koko Ed]

3015 is registered and very exited for Ruckus!
Well there's one of the two to reach 32 but I don't know who the other team is.

[GCentola]

Well there's one of the two to reach 32 but I don't know who the other team is.

I believe 1518 is the other team.

The 32-team list now stands at:
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73
174
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1518
1511
1551
1559
2168
2791
3015
3044
3181
3193
3266
3683
3756
3951
4093
4124

Ruckus usually struggled to bring 24 teams, and now we have 32 teams during the middle of August! It sure will be a fun year! We should have a few more updates after Thursday! The latest news can also be found on the Ruckus Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/rahchacharuckus)

[Koko Ed]

I believe 1518 is the other team.

The 32-team list now stands at:
48
73
174
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
1405
1507
1518
1511
1551
1559
2168
2791
3015
3044
3181
3193
3266
3683
3756
3951
4093
4124

Ruckus usually struggled to bring 24 teams, and now we have 32 teams during the middle of August! It sure will be a fun year! We should have a few more updates after Thursday! The latest news can also be found on the Ruckus Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/rahchacharuckus)

Before last year we never had 24 teams (and the only reason we got to 24 was because 340 brought two robots). This is a HUGE step up for this event.

[stundt1]

This will be an awesome ruckus.

Thanks to the ruckus committee for hosting an awesome event!!

Can we do something like human basket ball at the end of the ruckus, or like a game of knockout or something?:cool:

[LeelandS]

My concern now is how will this influence the number of matches each team plays.

We're now slightly larger than the Waterloo regional (which had 30 teams). Waterloo played 44 matches on Day 1, which I believe was about 9 matches a team. Not bad. Except Waterloo played qualification matches on Day 1 from 9:30 to 4:44 PM. Take out the hour and a half for lunch, So that's about 5.5 hours of qualification matches. And, Waterloo, being a two day event, didn't play eliminations until Day 2. Being a one day event, Ruckus runs qualification matches and elimination matches the same day.

Going off of last year's schedule, qualification matches are played for about 4 hours (8:30 - 11:30, 1 - 2). If 4 hours of Waterloo gameplay, about 30 matches were played. Between 6-7 matches per team. Given that we're already larger than Waterloo, and are still potentially growing, we're probably looking at 6.

I, personally, think this is a bit low. But, I really just put this up to give people a speculative guesstimate. Truth be told, I'll gladly take a shorter match schedule for the now expanded team list :) I love all the great teams coming to Ruckus!

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS ALL SPECULATION. IN NO WAY DOES THIS GUARANTEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT RUCKUS. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT AND WANTED TO LOOK AT.

[Tetraman]

I, personally, think this is a bit low. But, I really just put this up to give people a speculative guesstimate. Truth be told, I'll gladly take a shorter match schedule for the now expanded team list :) I love all the great teams coming to Ruckus!

Here is the answer to your question and concern: Ruckus is a one day off-season event, that is the least expensive of these events and a (typically speaking) local event for most all teams. The purpose is to have some fun with last year's game, train the new recruits to your team and win a few awards with a smaller field than was in FLR, earning you some recognition for your robot and team you otherwise might not have gotten. It's a time for teams to meet and mingle and talk about their design of last year's robot, as well as build little friendships that continue on at FLR. Winners are obviously going to be happy, either award winners or ruckus winners, but guaranteed that everyone will go home happy because NOTHING was truly on the line, other than fame that will last a few weeks and your own experiences which will last for a long time.

If even all teams get is 6 matches - fine by me. Great opportunity for difficult and gutsy scouting practice. Plus it's pretty obvious that no alliance is going to miss out on a great team, as generally speaking, all the teams signed up are pretty competitive.

My hope is 32 teams is a cut off, and every alliance picks their backup, therefore no team is left behind, and the last alliance picked gets an award a-la the NHL all star game draft.

Plus, we are talking about teams that we've been looking over for the past handful of months - No one is going to not pick team 0000 just because team 0000 went 3-3-0 in RCCR, even though they went 6-3-0 in FLR and would go 6-3-0 in RCCR if given enough matches.

It's not going to be a problem.

[LeelandS]

Here is the answer to your question and concern: Ruckus is a one day off-season event, that is the least expensive of these events and a (typically speaking) local event for most all teams. The purpose is to have some fun with last year's game, train the new recruits to your team and win a few awards with a smaller field than was in FLR, earning you some recognition for your robot and team you otherwise might not have gotten. It's a time for teams to meet and mingle and talk about their design of last year's robot, as well as build little friendships that continue on at FLR. Winners are obviously going to be happy, either award winners or ruckus winners, but guaranteed that everyone will go home happy because NOTHING was truly on the line, other than fame that will last a few weeks and your own experiences which will last for a long time.

If even all teams get is 6 matches - fine by me. Great opportunity for difficult and gutsy scouting practice. Plus it's pretty obvious that no alliance is going to miss out on a great team, as generally speaking, all the teams signed up are pretty competitive.

My hope is 32 teams is a cut off, and every alliance picks their backup, therefore no team is left behind, and the last alliance picked gets an award a-la the NHL all star game draft.

Plus, we are talking about teams that we've been looking over for the past handful of months - No one is going to not pick team 0000 just because team 0000 went 3-3-0 in RCCR, even though they went 6-3-0 in FLR and would go 6-3-0 in RCCR if given enough matches.

It's not going to be a problem.

I, personally, am not worried about the number of matches. If it were a purely local event, anyways. What I'm worried about is those traveling quite a distance for the event. This year, we have a large number of out-of-state teams traveling to our humble event. If a team is traveling such a distance, I'd want them to get their money's worth (even if the money is less than most other offseason events), and make the travel worth while.

[Chris is me]

Six matches in one morning is a pretty reasonable number for a single day off season. I'd always be in favor of anything that gets us more matches, but six isn't the end of the world.

[Koko Ed]

I, personally, am not worried about the number of matches. If it were a purely local event, anyways. What I'm worried about is those traveling quite a distance for the event. This year, we have a large number of out-of-state teams traveling to our humble event. If a team is traveling such a distance, I'd want them to get their money's worth (even if the money is less than most other offseason events), and make the travel worth while.

Because these teams came from a pretty good distance it is also important to leave them a reasonable getaway time. They do not want to be here til 9pm after a long day of roboting. That are very tired and grumpy by then abd could be prone to not ever coming back.

[GCentola]

Six matches in one morning is a pretty reasonable number for a single day off season. I'd always be in favor of anything that gets us more matches, but six isn't the end of the world.

Typically, each team gets around 7 matches. Typically, we have not had 24 teams compete. Rebound Rumble allows for faster turnaround times, but we also have a larger number of teams. The committee will keep in mind the concerns mentioned, and we will do our best to create the most enjoyable experience we can! It will still be a great Ruckus, and I am very excited!

[George C]

Because these teams came from a pretty good distance it is also important to leave them a reasonable getaway time. They do not want to be here til 9pm after a long day of roboting. That are very tired and grumpy by then abd could be prone to not ever coming back.

Don't let our travel distance and border wait worry you. We're really looking forward to the competition. A low number of matches isn't a big deal.

[Travis Hoffman]

Because these teams came from a pretty good distance it is also important to leave them a reasonable getaway time. They do not want to be here til 9pm after a long day of roboting.



This is true, in our case. We expect a late arrival home, but we have our limits.

I don't find a smaller number of matches to be a huge deal, such that I'd still prefer to see some form of mentor round instead of using the time for more matches.

That are very tired and grumpy by then abd could be prone to not ever coming back.

Some also have pie residue stuck in their hair, not helping their demeanor on the ride home. ;)

[heydowns]

Hey all,

If there are other thoughts regarding # of matches we'd love to hear them. One of the big comments we've received in the past is that more matches means tighter match-to-match plays (team X has to play again in Y minutes and we don't have the time to check-out/fix the robot/catch our breath). With the increased number of teams this will be less of an issue.

But yeah we'd love to hear thoughts on # matches (or, time dedicated to match play) versus things like:

- Extra "fun" events like mentor matches
- Time the day starts/ends (we won't change this for this year since it is already published, but curious for years to come)
- Match-to-match time (how "rushed" things need to be, maybe gauging versus your experience on a qualification day at a regional - do you want it to move at that pace? faster? slower?)

As always we can't of course incorporate all suggestions but I'm interested in what you think!

[pfreivald]

My personal opinion -- and I'm not speaking for my team, just for myself -- is that more matches is more better!

[Nick Lawrence]

Ruckus has always been about not just the matches, but all the fun crazy stuff that happens along with it.

If we manage to get 6 matches each, then that would be plenty. I would be disappointed to see things like mentor tournaments, Pie In The Eye and other Ruckus shenanigans go to the wayside in interest of more matches.

That's just me though.

-Nick

[M. Mellott]

Second what Nick said...more matches are not as important as the overall experience.

Last year was my first Ruckus, and I had so much fun with 48, I'm bringing another team to join in the festivities! Besides, I still need that chance to smash a pie in Travis's face! :D

[Mr. Lim]

- Extra "fun" events like mentor matches

Ruckus is very much a "dress-rehearsal" for our new student leadership. We may be more of the exception, as opposed to the norm, but last year our team was very focused on performing well at Ruckus. We were preparing to break an 11 year drought where we went without a win at any kind of event. The fun events weren't on our radar very much, but this year will likely be different. Rumour has it there is a mentor or two that might be interested in piloting the EdgeWalker...

- Time the day starts/ends (we won't change this for this year since it is already published, but curious for years to come)

We are arriving Friday night, and so the early start is great for us. The end time is a factor since we drive home the same night. I don't think we could push it too much later than it is - we also factor in time for a meal on the way home.

- Match-to-match time (how "rushed" things need to be, maybe gauging versus your experience on a qualification day at a regional - do you want it to move at that pace? faster? slower?)

I think it'd be great to run the field as fast as it will go, and let the chips fall where they please. I don't think there is a need to artificially try and slow down the competition to spread out matches. If I needed to miss one match to fix the robot at an off-season event, I wouldn't panic too much. Especially if there were more matches to be played as a result of the quicker pace.

[Koko Ed]

Team 2340 has signed up to bring the Ruckus team list to 33!

[Koko Ed]

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174
188
191
229
340
378
379
578
610
639
1126
1334
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1518
1511
1551
1559
2168
2340
2791
3015
3044
3181
3193
3266
3683
3756
3951
4093
4124

[Koko Ed]

The Ruckus team cap will be 40 teams.

[GCentola]

The Ruckus team cap will be 40 teams.

The cap is posted at 40, we have 37 teams on the list so far. Only 3 spots left!

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639
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3015
3044
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3951
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4124

There are no further rule changes to the game other than what has been posted on the website, and the Alliance Selection process will be the same as the standard FIRST procedure (24 teams will play in the eliminations rounds).

We will have real-time scoring, but penalties will be added after the match has ended. To keep a faster turn-around time, penalties will not be discussed after the match.

For our fun events, Punkin’ Chunkin will return, and we are still hoping to keep Mentor Matches! As usual, you will also have the opportunity to pie you favorite FIRSTer in the face during the annual “Pie-in-the-Eye.” During the event, we are also holding a Mega Drive (specifics to come later)!

It should be a great time for all!

As always, check out the Ruckus Facebook (http://facebook.com/rahchacharuckus) and Website (www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com). Volunteer Registration (http://www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/) is still open!

[Nick Lawrence]

- Extra "fun" events like mentor matches

Rumour has it there is a mentor or two that might be interested in piloting the EdgeWalker...



... :)

-Nick

[Justin Montois]

...the Alliance Selection process will be the same as the standard FIRST procedure (24 teams will play in the eliminations rounds).
...

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[Travis Hoffman]

There are no further rule changes to the game other than what has been posted on the website, and the Alliance Selection process will be the same as the standard FIRST procedure (24 teams will play in the eliminations rounds).

We will have real-time scoring, but penalties will be added after the match has ended. To keep a faster turn-around time, penalties will not be discussed after the match.

For our fun events, Punkin’ Chunkin will return, and we are still hoping to keep Mentor Matches! As usual, you will also have the opportunity to pie you favorite FIRSTer in the face during the annual “Pie-in-the-Eye.” During the event, we are also holding a Mega Drive (specifics to come later)!

It should be a great time for all!

As always, check out the Ruckus Facebook (http://facebook.com/rahchacharuckus) and Website (www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com). Volunteer Registration (http://www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/) is still open!

And Team 48 is barred from winning any more Andy-Mark wormboxes.

[LeelandS]

For our fun events, Punkin’ Chunkin will return, and we are still hoping to keep Mentor Matches! As usual, you will also have the opportunity to pie you favorite FIRSTer in the face during the annual “Pie-in-the-Eye.” During the event, we are also holding a Mega Drive (specifics to come later)!

Who do I talk to to sign up for Pie-in-the-Eye? I doubt I'll pull in as many tickets as last year (since basically all of 1126 pooled to try and pie me), but it was still fun and I'd love to do it again!

[Nick Lawrence]

There are no further rule changes to the game other than what has been posted on the website, and the Alliance Selection process will be the same as the standard FIRST procedure (24 teams will play in the eliminations rounds).

Pardon me while I go jump for joy. Glad to see this move!

-Nick

[stundt1]

Alright I prefer the regular frc alliance rules :)

[Travis Hoffman]

I've got a suggestion to raise additional funding for Pie in the Eye.

If a recipient of the pie-ing is willing (I am), I was wondering if the Ruckus staff could give people two parallel pathways to pie retribution against that person:

1. The usual way - sell tickets to be put in a bucket. One is drawn randomly and that person gets to pie the recipient.

2. The IRI way - have a silent auction which gives people full control over whether they win a chance to pie or not - lay out a bidding sheet where people openly bid for the right to pie someone.

Both pies could be applied to the recipient simultaneously to avoid spending much extra time per pie recipient.

[pfreivald]

I am willing to get face-pied for charity as well.

I've got a suggestion to raise additional funding for Pie in the Eye.

If a recipient of the pie-ing is willing (I am), I was wondering if the Ruckus staff could give people two parallel pathways to pie retribution against that person:

1. The usual way - sell tickets to be put in a bucket. One is drawn randomly and that person gets to pie the recipient.

2. The IRI way - have a silent auction which gives people full control over whether they win a chance to pie or not - lay out a bidding sheet where people openly bid for the right to pie someone.

Both pies could be applied to the recipient simultaneously to avoid spending much extra time per pie recipient.

[Tetraman]

I can only imagine the lengths 174 students would go though to pie me.

EDIT: Dang it Patrick, you took the 174th post. I'll take 174th reply though...

[Libby K]

This year, we have a large number of out-of-state teams traveling to our humble event. If a team is traveling such a distance, I'd want them to get their money's worth (even if the money is less than most other offseason events), and make the travel worth while.

Please remember, NY is a big state. 229 and 4124 are 'in-state' and it is a 4+ hour drive for us... :)

Because these teams came from a pretty good distance it is also important to leave them a reasonable getaway time. They do not want to be here til 9pm after a long day of roboting. That are very tired and grumpy by then abd could be prone to not ever coming back.

THIS. I'll take six matches if it means I can get the students home before it gets too late for them.


Some also have pie residue stuck in their hair, not helping their demeanor on the ride home. ;)

Seriously -- pie in the hair is NO FUN.

Speaking of which, I would be HAPPY as always to get pied for charity, (well, after there's pie in my hair I might not be so happy...) and I'm fine with Travis' idea regarding auctioning. A bidding war between friends is perfect if it helps get more money. :)

[Koko Ed]

Let's welcome team 145 T-Rex and Team 3003 TanX to the fold. Only a few spots left if teams want to sign up!

[Koko Ed]

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188
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379
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639
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2168
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2 spots left!

[Koko Ed]

The Rah Cha Cha Ruckus needs you!
We have 24 volunteers signed up and have needs in many positions (except ref). If you want to participate in the funnest off season around and get a sweet t-shirt (designed by me ;P ) plus free lunch sign on up (http://www.ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/). You won't be sorry you did.

[GCentola]

At this time, we would like to announce that team registration for the 2012 Rah Cha Cha Ruckus is now closed. Thank you to all teams for your interest!

Second, volunteer registrastion (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/volunteer-registration/) is still open! Help make this year even better! It is a fun event, and you will get a cool t-shirt (designed by the one and only Koko Ed!) and a free lunch! There are still many positions open (except ref) and you are pretty much guaranteed to have a great time!

[stundt1]

Hey, Is there any number on qualification matches this year? I was wondering considering the larger number of teams.

[linuxboy]

I wish I could come but there is school and all that, plus I don't think my parents want me driving 8 hours to Rochester, and I certainly don't want to pay for gas for that. Will there be a webcast?
- Oliver

[Koko Ed]

I wish I could come but there is school and all that, plus I don't think my parents want me driving 8 hours to Rochester, and I certainly don't want to pay for gas for that. Will there be a webcast?
- Oliver

Yes.
If you go to the website there is a link for the webcast in the upper right corner of the home page.

[linuxboy]

Thanks!

[GCentola]

Hey everyone, this is just a reminder that T-Shirt pre-orders close today! If you haven't done so, and your team wants extra shirts, pre-order them! We will, as usual, have some shirts for sale on the day of the event.

In addition, the fun events for this year along with details about the MEGA-Drive this year have been posted on the Ruckus Website (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/charity-drive/)

There are also a few more cool things the Committee is hoping to bring to make this year the best yet! We hope you are all getting excited!



Hey, Is there any number on qualification matches this year? I was wondering considering the larger number of teams.
I believe this was discussed earlier in the thread, but it is looking like 6 matches per team. This isn't an absolute, but it is the number we projected if we want to keep the fun events part of Ruckus and still finish at a reasonable time (there is a lot to cram into a 1-day event).

[M. Mellott]

Unfortunately, due to budget issues and student participation issues, 3193 has withdrawn from the Ruckus. We hope to compete next season when our finances are better, but we just can't do it this season.

I will still be attending with Team 48, and I hope to bring along a few Falco Tech rookie students so they can get their first taste of a great FIRST competition experience.

[Gregor]

907 will have a few vetrans and most of our rookies there to get a taste of what competition is like.

[GCentola]

We are getting closer and closer to an awesome Ruckus! Check out this cool intro video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6w9ZDyFMM) with all of the teams that will be competing!

So, if you are attending, what are you most excited for? The great teams, the chance to pie your favorite FIRSTer in the face, the Halloween Party? There will definitely be a lot going on this year!

[Chi Meson]

Phew!

We came close to having to call this one off due to various difficulties, but with a lot of help, we are gonna make it there. Profuse thanks to all those giving us a hand!

10 days until the Swan Song.

[Tetraman]

We are getting closer and closer to an awesome Ruckus! Check out this cool intro video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n6w9ZDyFMM) with all of the teams that will be competing!

HA, one of these days 174 will have a full team photo. That made me laugh.

[pfreivald]

I would just like to put out a reminder that 1551 currently does not have a functional bridge -- I know that several teams said they have extras and would bring them so that we can compete not on a tether, and I just wanted to be sure we're all on the same page!

Thanks!

[GCentola]

Ruckus is only a few days away!! Remember, your team can win a bunch of cool prizes in this year's Mega Drive. It is a bigger and better version of our annual charity drive, and more information can be found on our website (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/charity-drive/)! Last year, team 48 took home the trophy. Who will make the largest contribution this year?

[GCentola]

Only 3 more days! Here a few updates!

Information on the Charity Drive can be found here (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/charity-drive/). Participate and you could win some cool things!

If you are interested, remember to sign up for our annual Pie-in-the-Eye event!

There will not be wi-fi available in the dome. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

The Team list stands at an awesome 37 teams!
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145
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378
379
578
610
639
1126
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1405
1507
1511
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2228
2340
2791
3003
3015
3044
3157
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3181
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Who is excited?

[Suitster]

Only 3 more days! Here a few updates!

Information on the Charity Drive can be found here (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/ruckus-information/charity-drive/). Participate and you could win some cool things!

If you are interested, remember to sign up for our annual Pie-in-the-Eye event!

There will not be wi-fi available in the dome. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

The Team list stands at an awesome 37 teams!


Who is excited?

I'd say 37 teams are excited, to begin with.

[pfreivald]

Anyone in town tonight for the Ruckus might want to check out the ROC City Roller Girls zombie walk -- starts at 9pm at JAVA, ends at the Little Theater, where they'll be showing a Wes Craven double feature!

[akoscielski3]

Quick Link to Webcast (http://ruckus.penfieldrobotics.com/webcast/)

[Tetraman]

All of us teams have some work to do when it comes to making our alliance selections...I can tell you that right now...

[akoscielski3]

Webcast got cut out during finals match

Who won? and what were the scores?

Any videos???

[GCentola]

The winning alliance was 340, 48 and 378. Ruckus finalists after 2 very close, hard fought and intense matches were 610, 1559 (once again united at Ruckus) and 2168. The elimination matches were great!

[A_Reed]

Webcast got cut out during finals match

Who won? and what were the scores?

Any videos???

The webcast was also about 45min behind. We at home got text messages about winning during the early semifinals. :D

[George C]

Great event. We thoroughly enjoyed ourselves despite the problems we ran into connecting with the field. Well organized.

[Grim Tuesday]

Even though we weren't picked for an alliance, that wasn't our goal. We use Ruckus as a way to let everyone who can't drive the robot at competition get a chance to see a fields eye view. The most common comment I hear is

"Wow, I had no idea driving is that hard!"

As such, I would have to say, for us, Ruckus was a huge success. We got to field test a lot of new things (new pit, new scouting system) and introduce rookies to a competition. This is why I love Ruckus. I had a very fun time and the organization was amazing.

I just wanted to especially thank Dante for making the right call in that seminfinal match. For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, there was a match in which an alliance achieved a triple balance. Then, inexplicably, all robots lost communications and the foghorn was sounded. Dante made the right call in choosing to reset the match: That is what the rules say to do.

I was very disappointed when I heard the crowd boo the decision. Not only was it the correct one but booing a decision is never GP, even if you disagree with it.

Overall, the event was organized as well (maybe even better) than an official FIRST one. I loved the way that alliance selection was done efficiently, though I think it would be inappropriate for FIRST to do it this way. Here at Ruckus, it sped up the process but in a real event, I like the formal aspect of collecting all the top 8 on the field.

[Herbblood]

Hi!
Great Job everyone yesterday! Everyone did an amazing job, and congrats to 340, 48 and 378, that was amazing yesterday. I also like to thank 3003 and 3015 who we competed with in the elmination matches, we acomplished something so amazing yeseterday. It was crazy that we balenced 3 robots twice.
Congrats to team 340 again for the charity drive, that was awesome!
It was fun seeing everyone, and dancing with lots of others. Hope to see everyone next year!
Bye!:D

[Nick Lawrence]

Ruckus 2012 was one of the best events I've ever been to. The event ran pretty smoothly, the venue was awesome and the volunteers were great as usual. I had a blast just being there, let alone all the great things that happened on our team.

This event was the debut of our new operator and drive coach. Both of these fine gentlemen were extremely nervous leading up to this event, but also had their sights set on excellence. Our drive team grew a ton this weekend, driving like seasoned veterans. It was really awesome to watch them fly around the field, scoring baskets like nobodies business. I look forward to seeing what they can do this coming season.

It has been five years since I've been to a Ra Cha Cha Ruckus, and almost four since I've been to the Finger Lakes Regional. It was really nice to see all the Rochester FIRST people that I don't normally see at championships this weekend.

I want to thank Justin Foss, Joshua Miller and the rest of team 2168 for the great run we had yesterday afternoon. Your team is an absolute class act, who always never seems to be satisfied with themselves, even when they're one of the best robots at the event. Finally getting to see the Fat Swan fly, especially during her "swan song" was one heck of a thrill. That thing belongs in a museum. (Maybe a museum for Colson wheels?)

I also want to thank team 1559 for being a pretty awesome alliance partner. Once we got our match strategy figured out and everyone was comfortable, you guys did a good job playing a little defense and feeding us and the Falcons basketballs. Sorry we couldn't triple with you guys, but it was fun to run with you again.

Lastly, I want to thank the volunteers and event planning committee for putting on such a great event. I hope Ruckus stays in the venue it's in now - it's easy to get to and is close to lots of lodging for us out-of-town folks.

On a personal note, this was my second event with 610. In that short time period it's been really cool to watch this team continue to develop into a strong, competitive, and driven team. Thanks guys, for making this fun.

-Nick

[rees2001]

I would like to thank all of the volunteers for the best Ruckus yet. This competition felt as close to an actual FIRST competition as possible. It doesn't hurt that most of the backbone operations were run by some of the best people in FIRST. This just reminds me how lucky we are to have you at FLR every year.

I would like to thank 48 for picking us and 378 for joining our alliance in elims. I too would like to extend my gratitude to 3003, 3015 and 3044 for they way they handled the field issues. For the most part everyone was gracious and professional.

I would like to thank 610, 2168, and 1559 for being such good competitors in the finals. Your presence gave the event a feeling that we are that much closer to a Regional Competition. The same can be said for all of the out-of-town teams. Thank you for attending.

Finally, thank you to 1511 and the rest of the Ruckus Planning committee. It was a great event. The trophies looked great, the pits were great, the volunteers were professional. Nice job.

[pfreivald]

I'm with Grim Tuesday on success -- we blew the minds of a couple of prospective drivers, had some very interesting technical problems (that we made rookie pit-workers tackle), experienced one match where our robot ran amok not under our control, won a trophy we didn't deserve, and got a PTC Platinum grant that we did!

Thanks to everyone, particularly the Ruckus Committee, 1511, 1126, and all the volunteers!

[dsherw00d]

This is my 2nd year involved with FIRST as a mentor. My first ever event was last years Ruckus. Actually, it was the first time I was around any FRC robot. Our team had a great time both years. Of course, this year will be remembered for a long time as it's the first time in many years that we've been in any finals. We want to thank 340 and 48 for selecting us as their 3rd alliance partner. You both are awesome teams. It felt like a regional with all the great teams in attendance. It was very exciting and the triple balances were awesome!!

Our driver was "almost" a rookie driver and he drove every match. We only have a handful of active students this time of year and 11-12 total. He was a backup last year, but didn't drive in any of the competitions and only a couple practice rounds. He's a wrestler and came away from the semi's and finals stating it's more exhausting then a wrestling match!! I think his heart rate was through the roof. The entire drive team handled the pressure great while the rest of the team paced the sidelines:)

I want to thank everyone involved!! I spoke with couple of planning committee members and the amount of work to organize the Ruckus is incredible and takes many months. What a great event and the location was spectacular. My wife did volunteer for the first time as well and had a great experience. I think she will do it again for the regional.

See everyone 2/28/13 at the Finger Lakes Regional!!

[Travis Hoffman]

A big thank you to all volunteers, staff, and teams responsible for making this year's Ruckus such a fun and rousing success. The organization and execution of the competition were top-notch as always. The venue was well-suited to host this event - hopefully it can continue to be available in future years. And even with all the tired robots and fresh faces on drive teams, the teams and robots were as competitive as you can find in a fall offseason event.

Having graduated 15 seniors last year, Team 48 brought a new drive team and numerous rookie students to the Ruckus. I think they all received a good taste of the fun and excitement a typical FRC event can deliver.

I'm very proud of our drive team for improving steadily throughout the competition and not letting a few nagging robot and comms issues in qualifying deter them from their goal. Thanks much to our friends on 340 and 378 (Go Delphi!) for being excellent alliance partners. The elimination rounds were competitive all around. I especially thought the 610, 2168, 1559 #1 alliance would be a tough nut to crack, and I was right...but we found a way!

What an excellent capstone to a productive 2012 season, and a great launching pad into 2013. Thanks again to all who made the event a fun success!

[Tetraman]

On behalf of team 174, thank you to all of the volunteers and teams that made this event possible. This was our first year at Ruckus, and I can say it won't be our last. A very fun event that clued us into what needs to be worked on and how to improve for the coming year. Thank you to you Rochestarians for making us feel welcome and part of your community.

We would like to thank our alliance partners 2228 and 3181 for being amazing in the elimination matches and great people to work with. Can't wait to play with you again at FLR and may you have a great season ahead.

Our main drive team was actually at home, doing the ACTs, but the students we had as backups played an amazing game and I look forward to seeing them progress.

Congrats to everyone involved. You put on a heck of a show.

Next stop - Finger Lakes Regional!

[Chris is me]

I've got a lot to say, but before my post becomes tl;dr, I have to ask - is there any video of the event? In my dreams, someone would have every match. 2791 did a lot of cool things on the field and I'd love to relive some of them.

Anyhow, this was a fantastic event! It was quite well run and we got to play with a variety of teams we don't get to see that often. It was great to see old friends on 2168, 229, and 610 again - it's really unfortunate we didn't get to play with any of you in eliminations. Apparently, you can go from 27th seed to the eighth captain in two excellent matches. I did not know that.

And because I did not know that, we didn't have a very good list prepared. This put my head scout and I under a lot of pressure, especially because I forgot my Simbot-inspired whiteboard for this event. We watched all of our dream picks slip away... 340, 3683, 3044... So we had to make a quick decision. We figured that the #1 alliance would probably not risk winning by triple balance in the quarters, so we took a gamble on a wide robot and picked 145. There were some other choices available, but we had a good match with them. Our data highly emphasized teams that hit the ground running early in quals rather than sleepers that got it together at the end.

Our second pick was nerve wracking, as our head scout was now on the field and had no way of talking to anyone else on the team. In this circumstance, he managed to make an extremely useful pick that gave our alliance a fighting chance - 1334. What you have to understand about picking from the 8th seed is that you need to take risky picks. 1334 was not a pillar of consistency, but they were a long 6wd with a stinger, a potential four ball autonomous, and a great bridge manipulator. They were inconsistent, but powerful. The gamble we needed.

Strategy with these picks was quite interesting. 1334 had some great data on the #1 alliance's third pick that we used to guess what they'd be doing, and we came together with a strategy to try and force a rubber match. Unfortunately, we needed every piece of the puzzle to work on the field to force a win, and it just wasn't in the cards. It was still a great match and I enjoyed working with all of the members of the alliance. If anyone wants me to really dig into the details of the strategy, I'd happily talk about it, but it's too boring for most people. :P

We had a great event overall. We came in executing our defensive elimination oriented strategy from the get go and we did it with a level of consistency and quality that we've never done before. Basically nothing on the robot broke, our driver got better and better, and we continued to crawl up the rankings until the very last match. This was easily one of our best events and our favorite off season performance. I'm very proud of everyone on 2791.

[George C]

Here's an interesting photo

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13185&stc=1&d=1352156342

[Koko Ed]

Here's an interesting photo

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13185&stc=1&d=1352156342

We had a little Red Devil infestation at the event.
It happens at every event 1334 is at that I have been to.

[Kims Robot]

Whew made it through processing the photos in a reasonable time!! (had to get to it before Ramp Riot!)

My photos from the event are posted here (I highly suggest the slideshow on fast if you want to see some good sequence shots!):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimsrobot/sets/72157631940426093/
As always, photo credit is appreciated if you want to repost them anywhere.

And if teams are looking for additional photos, feel free to contact me. I had close to 2000 photos, so you can see more than 1600 didnt "make the cut". I definitely had some issues with the lighting at the event (mainly I hate using flash if I don't have to, so I avoided it where possible), but I think we got a decent set for the day :)

I definitely had a blast at Ruckus - always great seeing so many old friends, and seeing so many new kids. The event has grown so much from its start back in 2005, and this was definitely an awesome show!

[rees2001]

Whew made it through processing the photos in a reasonable time!! (had to get to it before Ramp Riot!)

My photos from the event are posted here (I highly suggest the slideshow on fast if you want to see some good sequence shots!):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimsrobot/sets/72157631940426093/
As always, photo credit is appreciated if you want to repost them anywhere.

And if teams are looking for additional photos, feel free to contact me. I had close to 2000 photos, so you can see more than 1600 didnt "make the cut". I definitely had some issues with the lighting at the event (mainly I hate using flash if I don't have to, so I avoided it where possible), but I think we got a decent set for the day :)

I definitely had a blast at Ruckus - always great seeing so many old friends, and seeing so many new kids. The event has grown so much from its start back in 2005, and this was definitely an awesome show!

Those are great Kim, thanks for sorting though what I could only imagine was hours of work. It was awesome seeing you and Eric again. Will you guys be back for FLR?

[Justin Montois]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimsrobot/8160847652/in/set-72157631940426093/

What a great shot Kim!

[Kims Robot]

Those are great Kim, thanks for sorting though what I could only imagine was hours of work. It was awesome seeing you and Eric again. Will you guys be back for FLR?
Most likely! Eric is tackling quite a schedule this year - he is likely going to MC 5 events (applied for FLR as one of them). If he goes... I go, so we are hoping the stars align :)

As for the hours of work... this batch was a bit better than some... It only took ~5 hours (my typical has been close to 10, but I think I'm getting more efficient, and maybe taking fewer photos & doing less editing as I understand the shots I want & settings I need). Funny thing was I was so incredibly frustrated when I finished, thinking I had soo many crappy shots and was angry with the lighting, but when I looked at my uploaded pics the next morning, I was pretty happy with the set that "passed"... and realized that my frustration was with the 1600... but I still have a long way to go in learning if I am not willing to spend crazy amounts of money on super high end cameras & lenses!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimsrobot/8160847652/in/set-72157631940426093/

What a great shot Kim!
Haha thanks!! I'm fairly certain that is the one I got covered myself for (and only a tiny drop on the camera thank goodness!!). I was relieved when I saw the final shot - it was totally worth getting the backlash of whipped cream!