View Full Version : What do you want to see in this years game?
Robert Cawthon
28-09-2012, 10:04
Its that time of year again! What would you like to see in this year's game?
JohnSchneider
28-09-2012, 10:29
I'd like a football game. The complications of an asymmetrical ball would be neat
But given that we had a ball game last year and a tube game the year before we're more than likely getting a stacking game of some sort.
Lil' Lavery
28-09-2012, 11:19
Bowling balls
Volleyball net
wilsonmw04
28-09-2012, 11:23
Bowling balls
THIS
MARS_James
28-09-2012, 12:31
Quick field reset, this year the field being easy to reset meant more matches which means more fun
Alpha Beta
28-09-2012, 12:45
Traffic Cones, Beach Balls, and a Bernoulli Blower
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1059122&postcount=1
Water Game!!
In reality, I'd like to see an obstacle course of some sort that involved climbing, lifting, stacking, shooting, carrying, placing, etc.
Andrew Lawrence
28-09-2012, 23:49
I'd like to see a game that can be played in many various ways. Different strategies, more than one way of doing things. A few general goals, but rules that allow creativity to inspire millions of different designs. Games are strategy based more than robot based, and each match can be played differently.
Another coopertition aspect that makes you work with your opponents, but not be worth as much as the coop bridge.
Something present in eliminations would be nice too.
Jay O'Donnell
29-09-2012, 00:03
Frisbees.
Seconded. As long as they could make sure that the frisbees didn't go flying into the stands, it would be awesome.
akoscielski3
29-09-2012, 00:06
I'd like to see a game that can be played in many various ways. Different strategies, more than one way of doing things. A few general goals, but rules that allow creativity to inspire millions of different designs. Games are strategy based more than robot based, and each match can be played differently.
I definitely like the idea of being able to play the game different ways. However this could be too complicated for the Spectator's.
A simple, and Quick game that can be played differently would be Ideal. and would be spectator friendly.
I predict some sort of stacking, but it's hard to predict anything right now.
more defensive play and a more entertaining end game.
daniel_dsouza
29-09-2012, 01:10
more defensive play and a more entertaining end game.
Flying minibots...
And I know this will never happen because it isn't safe, economical, or even the best idea...but it would be entertaining.
roystur44
29-09-2012, 01:13
Wiffle balls, hill climb, 3 robot balance on a round ramp
Jenn Feathers
29-09-2012, 01:24
something with a puzzle, different ways to score, and requires a more strategic approach
Robots lifting robots for bonus OR coop points. I'm thinking 1 robot lifted by the opposing team is 1 coop point. You could get a maximum of 4 coop points.
Things that would be fun to see with this:
4 lifted robots for a bonus.
4 lifted robots by opposing team robots for full coop.
Red robot helps a blue robot climb a red robot for a coop point and a bonus if the red robot gets up too.
3 robots lifted by an opposing robot for 3 coop points.
I'd love to see how this would change strategy during qualification.
ChristopherSD
29-09-2012, 10:00
Durable, non-ball game pieces.
glennword
29-09-2012, 20:02
I agree with a couple of the people before me about a hill climb/obstacle course. There are a lot of real world applications to abot that can simply carry something over rough terrain. I was thinking a speed aspect would also be cool, ie you get extra points if you ferry a gamepiece to the other side in under ten seconds.
Another idea is variable terrain, possibly a buch of pieces that can be easily knocked down to incur penalties. Or small domes that can be moved around before each match and locked into place, so as to create obstacles which bots either have to go over around. A small variation on this might be urban terrain, ie doors, stairs, walls, bumps/curbs.
Something else that would be cool is the other team being able to take your pieces away, and the final score is decided by how many pieces you still have on your side.
rcmolloy
29-09-2012, 20:10
Tetras and Hanging Bars would make a good game in my opinion.
A stacking game with game pieces based on the First logo shapes, ie. triangle extrusion, cylinder, cube.
Jon Stratis
29-09-2012, 20:26
I've been hearing people say "a stacking game" for 6 months now, and I agree, that does seem to make sense... but I also think it's a little too obvious to have a game centered around stacking game pieces.
Given the recent patterns, any sports-related games/game pieces are out (so footballs and frisbees, both of which would be pretty awesome) for this year. I also think tubes are out... we've seen them twice in the past 6 years, it'll take another year or two before we see them again.
I would like to see them do something with a wall in the middle of the field - there's a portion of the field that your drivers can't see directly, where you can score points. This could be assisted with the camera and/or with the human player, who could gesture from across the field where that area is visible.
Alpha Beta
29-09-2012, 21:24
I would like to see them do something with a wall in the middle of the field - there's a portion of the field that your drivers can't see directly, where you can score points. This could be assisted with the camera and/or with the human player, who could gesture from across the field where that area is visible.
I like the idea as long as it is spectator friendly. Obstructed viewing for drivers can sometimes mean obstructed views for fans. Many regional stadiums are in the "end zone" of hockey/basketball arenas and spectators are viewing over the heads of the drivers.
This last season we learned that vision processing was difficult, only handled well by a few teams. Viewing unprocessed video on the driver's station was fairly common though.
gyroscopeRaptor
29-09-2012, 23:52
I think I've said this quite a few times by now, but there needs to be a much more convincing reason for Kinect usage. Offering points for using it is not the way to go. A competitive advantage, likely from being able to react to a changing situation, is the best way* to do it. I believe that autonomous with Kinect would be best done in an autonomous mode like Aim High or Lunacy, where all robots would move at eachother and being able to have some control, or at the very least a mode switcher, would be the best choice. An Overdrive-style hybrid mode, where the hybrid control would be used to compensate for randomness in the game is not the best way to use it, as it encourages programming the Kinect as nothing more than a mode switcher.
TL;DR: If Kinect's in, it would be best used where actual control is needed.
216Robochick288
30-09-2012, 10:20
Flying minibots...
And I know this will never happen because it isn't safe, economical, or even the best idea...but it would be entertaining.
You said that and part of me died inside. As if climbing robots werent hard enough, lets make them fly.... --eek--
It's less of a particular piece to the game and more of an overarching principle, but I want a less restrictive set of robot restrictions. While having rules like the 84" cylinder or the single 14" appendage can add to the arbitrary "challenge" of the game, I would rather trade that off for the increased creativity allowed without those limits.
Anupam Goli
01-10-2012, 09:16
You know what I want to see in this year's game? THE RETURN OF REGOLITH AND HARD PLASTIC WHEELS!!!!11!1!.
Not Really. Honestly, I want to see a game with playground balls and moveable goals. maybe like a combination of Lunacy and some of the old games from back in 2000 or 2001.
Ghost-422
01-10-2012, 09:57
There are a few things that I would like to see but before I get into that I would like to make my guess on what the game is going to be instead of what I would like to see.
In the past they have made the game relate to modern day events. For example, the Lunacy game was the 40th anniversary of the moon landing and the Rebound Rumble game was during the NBA lockout. The only major event going on lately (that I can think of) is the robot landing on Mars. So I think that this year's game will be about the Martian landing.
Now onto what I would like to see is the integration of pyramids, cubes, and spheres to kind of make the FIRST logo 3D. You could do the bonus like in the Logomotion game but the robots would be more interesting because they would have to have the ability to pick up all the different shapes and different sizes.
Just a note that Rebound Rumble didn't intentionally occur doing the NBA lockout. Really the only intentional one was Lunacy.
That said...
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They just found old evidence of water on Mars.
I <3 Red Herrings
pandamonium
01-10-2012, 12:00
I think that 10lb Medicine Balls would be a really cool game piece. They are easily available, and they would be much different than other ball games. Seeing as we have seen ball games. If there is a stacking game I hope they use a scale to score. This would provide real time scoring.
billbo911
01-10-2012, 13:03
A Hockey themed game on Regolith. It would give both offensive and defensive teams a serious role to play.
A Hockey themed game on Regolith. It would give both offensive and defensive teams a serious role to play.
YES!!!!! and goaliebots...
billbo911
01-10-2012, 14:10
YES!!!!! and goaliebots...
Exactly!!
Passing between robots would be a phenomenal feat and one that could really give an alliance a huge advantage!
Id love a hockey game! I think it would provide a good challenge and huge rewards, plus rookies could build kitbots for defense and still be sucsesful. I don't think it will happen till 2014 though because I expect the sport/non-sport trend to continue. A hockey match would be really exciting espeacially because it would be low scoring and in 2 minutes it's always great when a last second point wins a game
Lil' Lavery
01-10-2012, 14:54
There are a few things that I would like to see but before I get into that I would like to make my guess on what the game is going to be instead of what I would like to see.
In the past they have made the game relate to modern day events. For example, the Lunacy game was the 40th anniversary of the moon landing and the Rebound Rumble game was during the NBA lockout. The only major event going on lately (that I can think of) is the robot landing on Mars. So I think that this year's game will be about the Martian landing.
Wait, so the NBA lockout is a "major event" but the NHL lockout isn't?
*grumbles*
wilsonmw04
01-10-2012, 19:44
Wait, so the NBA lockout is a "major event" but the NHL lockout isn't?
*grumbles*
wait, there was a hockey lock out?? *boggle*
wait, there was a hockey lock out?? *boggle*
yeah...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NHL_lockout
I think it would be interesting if there was an obstacle course for the minibots (alongside normal game play). The minibots would begin the course at the start of the game and would use the duration of the game to autonomously navigate the course. It would be cool to see 120 pound robots with exotic drive trains for navigating a complicated course, but to include the rookie teams along side veterans it is more plausible to do it on the minibot scale.
A Hockey themed game on Regolith. It would give both offensive and defensive teams a serious role to play.I know I've posted this a couple times already, but a while ago I made an idea for a hockey game with an interesting twist...
Steven Sigley
02-10-2012, 01:51
For this year's game I'd like more hints...
After all guessing what the game is turns out to be half the fun. :D
Robert Cawthon
02-10-2012, 12:21
Flying minibots...
And I know this will never happen because it isn't safe, economical, or even the best idea...but it would be entertaining.
How about a tethered flying minibot? That way it can't go too far and the power can be supplied by the main bot. :cool:
Anupam Goli
03-10-2012, 01:30
How about a tethered flying minibot? That way it can't go too far and the power can be supplied by the main bot. :cool:
ugh, that sounds worse than the wires clumped in my desktop.
George1902
03-10-2012, 11:06
How about a tethered flying minibot? That way it can't go too far and the power can be supplied by the main bot. :cool:
As long as I can just extend a tape measure into the air... :yikes: :D ;)
RedLeader342
06-10-2012, 10:06
Frisbees.
if this was reddit, youd get all the karma.
instead you get all the green dots.
RedLeader342
06-10-2012, 10:10
i think it will have to do with stacking boxes. recently first has had a pattern of frc games being similar to the previous years ftc game or an older game. this year it could be both. however to see something with frisbees would be awesome. like was stated earlier though it would be hard to make sure they didnt fly out of the field
RedLeader342
06-10-2012, 10:12
I know I've posted this a couple times already, but a while ago I made an idea for a hockey game with an interesting twist...
i also like the hockey idea. but it also seems to be more fun when its a completely original game. like rack n roll. as well as logomotion even though it was based off racknroll. i mean original like, not based off a sport
S.W.A.G Napper
01-11-2012, 16:54
I'd like to see a king of the hill type game. Or keep away.
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