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Hi,
We just formed a rookie team 4573. We are planing to start training sessions for our electric team members. Does anyone has some training slide can share with us? We never mentored a team before, don't know where to start.
Thanks,
Charlie
AllenGregoryIV
07-10-2012, 22:11
Here are two presentations that I use with my team, hope they help.
Power Distribution (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucm53huzznyp7m9/FRC%20Power%20Distribution.pptx?dl=1)
Control System
(https://dl.dropbox.com/s/spsece8i4pcf9jm/FRC%20Control%20System.pptx?dl=1)
- Allen
Mark McLeod
07-10-2012, 22:13
Here's some that our team did:
Electrical Workshop (http://team358.org/files/workshops/Electrical%20Workshop%20October%202010.ppt)
Worksheet (http://team358.org/files/workshops/Electrical%20Workshop%20October%202010%20Handout.p df)
FRC cRIO details (http://team358.org/files/workshops/cRIO%20FRC%20II.ppt)
Network Topologies (http://team358.org/files/workshops/NetworkTopology.ppt)
Akash Rastogi
07-10-2012, 22:21
Hey there!
Since you folks are in Jersey, be sure to shoot me a PM on here, facebook, or an email to akash.rastogi11@gmail if you have any questions or need help :)
Welcome to FIRST!
inkspell4
07-10-2012, 22:33
A few things
1: the document on network topologies wouldn't work for me
2: do you have a document for the crio 1
3: do you have any documents on pneumatics
Mark McLeod
07-10-2012, 23:00
A few things
1: the document on network topologies wouldn't work for me
2: do you have a document for the crio 1
3: do you have any documents on pneumatics
I fixed the Topologies link.
Pneumatics for Newbies (http://www.team358.org/files/pneumatic/PneumaticsForNewbies.pdf)
Pneumatics Step-by-Step (http://www.team358.org/files/pneumatic/Pneumatics-StepByStep-cRIOversion.pdf)
I have to dig up the older cRIO 1 presentations (and probably update them- I doubt anyone is interested in the changeover from the older IFI controller).
P.S. Here's one I cobbled together.
Jon Stratis
08-10-2012, 08:38
Check out the presentations here: http://www.mnfirst.org/splash
There is a specific one for electrical, but there is a lot more for the rest of your team too!
This forum is great! Thanks for everyone's support. All these slides helps a lot for us. - Charlie
Mark McLeod
08-10-2012, 10:11
Here's an overview slide:
http://team358.org/files/programming/ControlSystem2009-/sm_2012FRCControlSystemData-PowerChart.jpg (http://team358.org/files/programming/ControlSystem2009-/2012FRCControlSystemData-PowerChart.jpg)
We usually print out the Electrical diagrams as large as we have a printer for. They don't fit on PowerPoint slides very well.
Power:
Robot Power Distribution Diagram (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2012_Assets/Robot%20Power%20Distribution%20Diagram%20%2812V%20 %26%2024V%20Solenoid%29.pdf)Data:
Robot Data Connectivity Diagram (PWM) (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2012_Assets/Robot%20Data%20Connectivity%20Diagram%20%28PWM%29. pdf)
Robot Data Connectivity Diagram (Serial - CAN) (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2012_Assets/Robot%20Data%20Connectivity%20Diagram%20%28Serial-CAN%29.pdf)
Robot Data Connectivity Diagram (Ethernet - CAN) (http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/Game_and_Season__Info/2012_Assets/Robot%20Data%20Connectivity%20Diagram%20%28Etherne t%20-%20CAN%29.pdf)As part of the electrical workshops I like to have the students/mentors strip wire and physically wire the different types of components together.
Another topic that's good to cover is proper battery handling & maintenance, e.g.,
Don't pick up a battery by the wires, ever
Tight attachment at the terminals
Terminal wires can be oriented two basic directions, up or out - establish a convention
Cover all exposed contacts with electrical tape or heat shrink.
Keep batteries chargedThat sort of thing.
Hi Mark,
These are awesome diagrams. What kind of tools are you using to draw these diagrams?
Jon Stratis
08-10-2012, 10:43
Man Mark, I wish I had that overview document handy at our meeting a week ago... I basically drew it out by hand on a whiteboard while talking with the team!
Mark McLeod
08-10-2012, 11:04
What kind of tools are you using to draw these diagrams?
The wiring diagrams come from FIRST as the pdf's you see.
In fact, you should get familiar with all the FIRST Technical Data at: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/2012-kit-of-parts-technical-resources
I don't know what tool they prefer.
There are some tools from Atrium, free to FIRST teams, that can be used for this.
The picture was just stuck together using Photoshop. The original came in the 2009 Control System KOP, and I just keep it updated year-to-year.
inkspell4
08-10-2012, 16:44
A good program for schematic diagrams ( that is if your making your own component) is eagle pcb
Otherwise i would us publisher or word and save the final version as a pdf
Also do you have a version of the slide for the old crio
Does anyone have any programming documentation also
A quick thing that I will add that I always tell all my new kids -- along with not holding batteries by the wires, don't try to hold them with one hand by the top. I think I've almost pulled a muscle in my thumb multiple times doing that! It does not feel good. :yikes:
Mark McLeod
08-10-2012, 19:04
Here's the same slide with the 8-slot cRIO FRC I instead of the new one.
http://www.team358.org/files/programming/ControlSystem2009-/sm_2012FRCControlSystemData-PowerChart_cRIO-I.jpg (http://www.team358.org/files/programming/ControlSystem2009-/2012FRCControlSystemData-PowerChart_cRIO-I.jpg)
We have same LabVIEW programming references here (http://team358.org/files/programming/ControlSystem2009-/LabVIEW/), and some of our workshops are here (http://www.team358.org/files/workshops/).
If you're looking for C++ or Java, then the getting started documents on SourceForge (http://firstforge.wpi.edu/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.wpilib/docman.root.c_and_java_documentation) are good places to begin.
inkspell4
08-10-2012, 19:10
Thanks
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