[FF]: [FF]: 2013 Gull Lake Regional Tier 1

[jlmcmchl]

Exploding Bacon...................7:00....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........7:05....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........7:10....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................7:15....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan......................7:20....7:53.... 8:07
rusty bucket o bolts..............7:25....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................7:30....7:49.... 8:09
TeamRUSH..........................7:35....7:47.... 8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 85 107 141 830 858 1254 1677 2000 2054
2145 2611 2767 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640 3641
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568

[BleakRNS]

Uh... which tier am I (Team Paradise) in?

[jlmcmchl]

Uh... which tier am I (Team Paradise) in?

oops, didn't notice that. I thought I had all the teams, so I think the best idea here is to redo the tiers, and add you in. If anyone objects, please say so, because I don't know how else to fix this.

[Littleboy]

I say give him a random spot on tier 2. Then both tiers would have 9 and wouldn't change anyone's schedule dramatically.

[jlmcmchl]

I'll post what I have so far based on draft lists:
Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................7:15....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan......................7:20....7:53.... 8:07
rusty bucket o bolts..............7:25....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................7:30....7:49.... 8:09
TeamRUSH..........................7:35....7:47.... 8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 107 141 830 858 1254 1677 2000
2145 2611 2767 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568

Team 2, you're up.

[JABot67]

Team 2 would like 2767. Yes I'm on Team 2 now!

[jlmcmchl]

Then this is the current status of the draft.

Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................2767....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141....7:53....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts..............7:25....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................7:30....7:49.... 8:09
TeamRUSH..........................7:35....7:47.... 8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 107 830 858 1254 1677 2000
2145 2611 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568
rusty bucket o bolts, you're up.

[jlmcmchl]

Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................2767....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141....7:53....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts..............2611....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................7:30....7:49.... 8:09
TeamRUSH..........................7:35....7:47.... 8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 107 830 858 1254 1677 2000
2145 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568
Falcon, you're up.

[EricH]

Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................2767....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141....7:53....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts..............2611....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................7:30....7:49.... 8:09
TeamRUSH..........................7:35....7:47.... 8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 107 830 858 1254 1677 2000
2145 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568
Falcon, you're up.

Ed didn't forward my list? 830. And you should be clear into Flippin' the Greatest's turn by now.

[Basel A]

Jordan, the times listed are start times for picks and the next time is the time when picks must be in (and the time at which a pick should be randomised). So rusty bucket o bolts should have had their pick in at 7:30, Falcon at 7:35, etc. Just so you know :)

[Chris is me]

Let's go with 830 and 107.

[jlmcmchl]

Yea, I need to pick it up, sorry about that. I got no PM from Ed with you list, can you send me it?

Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................2767....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141....7:53....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....7:51....8:08
Falcon............................ 830....7:49....8:09
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....7:47....8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........7:40....7:45....8:11


74 1254 1677 2000
2145 2611 3452 3509 3546 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4327 4368 4377 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483 4568

[jlmcmchl]

Let's go with 830 and 107.

You're going to have to choose two other teams; 107 was on top of random list, and Eric just chose 830.

[jlmcmchl]

Exploding Bacon................... 85....8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....7:59....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....7:57....8:05
Team 2............................2767....7:55....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....8:08
Falcon............................ 830....4568....8:09
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....8:11


1677 2000
2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4368 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

[Chris is me]

Uh, let's go 74 and 3547, I guess?

[JABot67]

Team 2 will choose Team 2000!!

[Andrew Lawrence]

It's 7:47. Canadian Bacon will take 2000.

EDIT: JABot67 posted after his time slot during the time when we were choosing. We both chose 2000. Because he wasn't allowed to chose after the next time slot started, who gets them?

[Walter Deitzler]

1677 please

[Basel A]

It's 7:47. Canadian Bacon will take 2000.

EDIT: JABot67 posted after his time slot during the time when we were choosing. We both chose 2000. Because he wasn't allowed to chose after the next time slot started, who gets them?

Doesn't matter, he posted before you did.

[jlmcmchl]

It's 7:47. Canadian Bacon will take 2000.

EDIT: JABot67 posted after his time slot during the time when we were choosing. We both chose 2000. Because he wasn't allowed to chose after the next time slot started, who gets them?

Because it was posted at 7:57, I think I will let it slide, It might have been posted right while the times changed. You will get 3618.

Exploding Bacon................... 85...8:01....8:03
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....4368....8:04
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....3618....8:05
Team 2............................2767....2000....8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....8:08
Falcon............................ 830....4568....8:09
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....8:11


1677
2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3640
3656 3658 4237 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

[Andrew Lawrence]

Doesn't matter, he posted before you did.

The rules aren't about who posts first. The rules explicitly say you have until the next time slot to post. Once the next time slot comes, you miss your turn.

EDIT: Ruling has been done, but this is still the rules.

[Walter Deitzler]

I picked 1677 (just so that you can update the draft)

Look at my above posting

[Basel A]

The rules aren't about who posts first. The rules explicitly say you have until the next time slot to post. Once the next time slot comes, you miss your turn.

So the pick should have been randomised and then any player has the freedom to change their picks during anyone's turn. It works out the same.

[JABot67]

3547 for our third pick at 8:06

[jlmcmchl]

Then it won't slide, they'll get a random.
What team are you on LedLover? not saying you team makes this really hard.

Exploding Bacon................... 85....1677....3547
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....4368....4453
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....2000....3640
Team 2............................2767....3658....4368
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....3618
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....8:11

This will be cleaned up while you post, I just needed to get this out.
2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

[Walter Deitzler]

Then it won't slide, they'll get a random.
What team are you on LedLover? not saying you team makes this really hard.

Exploding Bacon................... 85....1677....3547
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....4368....4453
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....2000....8:05
Team 2............................2767........8:06
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....8:07
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....8:08
Falcon............................ 830....4568....8:09
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....8:10
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....8:11


2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4237 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

Sorry, Fellowship of the Fez.

[Basel A]

At no place in the FF rules is it stated that a team cannot change their pick at any time. There's no reason Team 2 shouldn't get 2000, especially before the pick was randomised. If you disagree, then Ed can rule on this, but it's common sense.

[Littleboy]

You can also switch picks if the pick you are switching to is still available. At that time, 2000 was still available. Team 2 just traded the randomized pick for 2000.

[jlmcmchl]

Exploding Bacon................... 85....3547....4381
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....4368....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3658
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....3618
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....2145

2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

I hope I got it right this time.

[Gregor]

You will get 3618.

Exploding Bacon................... 85....3547....4381
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....4368....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3658
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....3618
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....2145

2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

I hope I got it right this time.

Not quite. If the ruling was made that we don't get 2000, we get the next on our list right? Which would be 3618. Not sure where 4368 came from.

~Canadian Bacon+1+Joe team member~

[Troy Willmer]

Uhhmmm Im on team "beastly as my fajitas" we weren't put in either of the tiers??? what happened? what do we do?

[jlmcmchl]

Yes, that's correct. Can you fix it, as I do not have the means to do so right now. It was probably because I erased from the lists as I went on, and didn't see 3618 there anymore. Keep in mind you quoted me before the discussion about the time, and during then I changed it and had been trying to release a full list.

[Gregor]

Exploding Bacon................... 85....3547....4381
The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....3618....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3658
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....3618
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....2145

2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3640
3656 3658 4368 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

[Chris is me]

Wow, we posted picks and you completely ignored them...

[jlmcmchl]

It was because you posted them after your time slot was up. You had 7:45 to 7:54, and you posted your new picks at 7:55.

[Akash Rastogi]

At no place in the FF rules is it stated that a team cannot change their pick at any time. There's no reason Team 2 shouldn't get 2000, especially before the pick was randomised. If you disagree, then Ed can rule on this, but it's common sense.

I believe Basel is correct here.

I believe Picone is also in the clear on this. To the person running the draft - I thank you for volunteering to do so, but Chris has been doing FF for quite a while now, he is correct.

"Last edited by jlmcmchl : Yesterday at 07:56 PM. Reason: updated with PureMichigan's pick."

Picone posted his picks at 7:55 while both of his selected teams were still available. His picks are valid.

Regardless, he and I don't care too much about this event, so we won't ask for the trouble of a redraft.

[jlmcmchl]

It probably will happen anyways; a team was missing from the draft. What will likely happen is a wholly new draft for Gull Lake the day of the Israel regional, which I can run, and should have the draft assistant working. I'd like to also apologize for how messy this draft was, it shouldn't have happenned this way.

[Akash Rastogi]

It probably will happen anyways; a team was missing from the draft. What will likely happen is a wholly new draft for Gull Lake the day of the Israel regional, which I can run, and should have the draft assistant working. I'd like to also apologize for how messy this draft was, it shouldn't have happenned this way.

No problem, as I said, everyone appreciates volunteers for drafts.

[Basel A]

It probably will happen anyways; a team was missing from the draft. What will likely happen is a wholly new draft for Gull Lake the day of the Israel regional, which I can run, and should have the draft assistant working. I'd like to also apologize for how messy this draft was, it shouldn't have happenned this way.

Don't worry about it. I'm pretty sure my first draft went about as badly. Like Akash said, we all really appreciate volunteers!

[EricH]

The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....3618....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3658
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....3618
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....2145

2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3640
3656 3658 4368 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

Waiver: 85 3547 4381

[EricH]

The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....3618....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3547
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....85
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....2145

2145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3640
3656 3658 4368 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

Waiver:
3618 3658

[EricH]

The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe...........3641....3618....4237
Team 2............................2767....2000....3547
PureMichigan...................... 141.... 74....85
rusty bucket o bolts.............. 107....4327....4483
Falcon............................ 830....4568....4700
TeamRUSH.......................... 858....3546....3656
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1254....4377....21452145 2611 3452 3509 3547 3618 3640
3656 3658 4368 4381 4389 4453 4482
4483

[MARS_James]

The Fellowship of the Fez.........2054....1677....3640= 122
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.........3641....3618....4237= 151
Team 2.................................2767....2000.... 3547= 133
PureMichigan...................... ....141......74........85= 99
rusty bucket o bolts.................107....4327....4483= 71
Falcon...................................830....45 68....3547*= 93
TeamRUSH.............................858....3546.. ..3656= 133
Team Flippin' The Greatest......1254....4377....2145= 97