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MysterE
30-11-2012, 09:12
Hey all -

I've been trying to get my mentors to watch 1114 Strategy Session and they have had a hard time following because of the audio quality. So - I've been thinking. . . what if we had a group of people on CD work together to transcribe and caption the video. Its a long one - otherwise I'd do it myself.

If I can get people to get the text written down, I'd be willing to use a subtitle program I have to add the titles to the video.

Anyone interested?

CalTran
30-11-2012, 09:29
I'd be up for doing that. Just pm me a section and I'll work that this weekend. I've watched it enough that I can recite some parts from memory already ::rolleyes::

Hallry
30-11-2012, 09:50
For those of us who haven't seen the video, can you provide a link to it?

Walter Deitzler
30-11-2012, 09:51
For those of us who haven't seen the video, can you provide a link to it?

http://www.simbotics.org/media/videos/2012/presentations/effective-first-strategies

I might be on board for this, I will send you a PM later if I decide to.

Ether
30-11-2012, 10:19
they have had a hard time following because of the audio quality

Is it possible that the master audio for this still exists and is of far better quality? Much of the audio quality problem with the posted video seems like it might be an artifact of the compression method used.

If someone from 1114 is reading this, would you be willing to look into this?

Siri
30-11-2012, 10:44
If I can get people to get the text written down, I'd be willing to use a subtitle program I have to add the titles to the video.

Anyone interested?If we do need to transcribe, though I hope Ether's correct, I'm up for it. I'm in CalTran's boat. I actually thought the same thing when I saw it (four times...). I started a bit, but realized it was too big a project for just me. If you give me the first N minutes, I'd have a bit of a head start.

MysterE
30-11-2012, 10:59
Is it possible that the master audio for this still exists and is of far better quality? Much of the audio quality problem with the posted video seems like it might be an artifact of the compression method used.

If someone from 1114 is reading this, would you be willing to look into this?




I agree with this. I've been trying to improve it with Audacity but the prior processing has made it difficult to improve on the sound. Ok - I am going to give this thread till tomorrow to see how many people want to help and then I will send a link to a Google doc with the times separated out. You can sign up for which part you want to do.

Joe G.
30-11-2012, 12:24
I'll take a section.

Ether
30-11-2012, 12:33
Is it possible that the master audio for this still exists and is of far better quality? Much of the audio quality problem with the posted video seems like it might be an artifact of the compression method used.

If someone from 1114 is reading this, would you be willing to look into this?

I agree with this. I've been trying to improve it with Audacity but the prior processing has made it difficult to improve on the sound...


I sent a PM to Karthik (in case he hadn't seen this thread) inviting him to comment here on the availability of the original recording.

KelliV
30-11-2012, 12:35
Give me a chunk of time and I can do it as well.

alb4h
01-12-2012, 15:40
I'd be happy to transcribe a part.
Ann

MysterE
03-12-2012, 13:19
Hello all -

I have finished preparing the Google Doc so that we can sign out and in segments of the strategy video. You can find the doc at http://tinyurl.com/1114trans

The instructions for how to proceed are on the doc file. We still need people to help. The more that are willing to transcribe a five minute portion of the video, the more swiftly this will be accomplished and I'd love to be able to have this done before build season gets started.

Thanks

dcarr
03-12-2012, 13:42
Hello all -

I have finished preparing the Google Doc so that we can sign out and in segments of the strategy video. You can find the doc at http://tinyurl.com/1114trans

The instructions for how to proceed are on the doc file. We still need people to help. The more that are willing to transcribe a five minute portion of the video, the more swiftly this will be accomplished and I'd love to be able to have this done before build season gets started.

Thanks

I'll sign up for one, I won't have time until winter break though (so around December 22nd). Too bad we can't get higher quality source audio, although I personally think the problems with the audio are in how it was recorded and not form compression.

Ether
03-12-2012, 13:50
I personally think the problems with the audio are in how it was recorded and not form compression.

It's not one or the other. It's both:

The feed from Karthik's mic was not used for the recording. The recording was fed from a microphone at the back of the room.

The compression further distorted the sound.

dcarr
03-12-2012, 14:03
It's not one or the other. It's both:

The feed from Karthik's mic was not used for the recording. The recording was fed from a microphone at the back of the room.

The compression further distorted the sound.




The compression certainly didn't help. But I've never heard AAC audio (or whatever codec they use) on YouTube sound that bad if the source wasn't already that bad.

Is the idea to re-upload this video with permanent subtitles, or use the YouTube captioning tool, or something else entirely?

Ether
03-12-2012, 14:42
I've never heard AAC audio (or whatever codec they use) on YouTube sound that bad if the source wasn't already that bad.

I have, when the audio has reverb and background noise.

Not all YouTube videos are created equal.

alb4h
03-12-2012, 15:35
What does the following line from the instructions mean?
"Please keep each transcripted line to one or two sentences."

How do you want our transcription formatted?

Walter Deitzler
03-12-2012, 17:36
What does the following line from the instructions mean?
"Please keep each transcripted line to one or two sentences."

How do you want our transcription formatted?

I am also curious about this, do you want us to separate our transcriptions by 1 to 2 sentence lines? (What I have done is currently a big block of text).

CalTran
03-12-2012, 19:07
Is the idea to re-upload this video with permanent subtitles, or use the YouTube captioning tool, or something else entirely?

I was wondering the same thing. Signed up for 15:01-20:00 minute time slot.

MysterE
04-12-2012, 00:08
Hi everyone,

Basically I plan on embedding the subtitles into the video. Remember that subtitles cannot be too long in a chunk..so if you type up one or two sentences and then add a line break, it will be easier for me to align the time along with the text. If you give me chunks I will break it down but it will take a bit longer. I am already getting transcriptions returned. Thanks so much for the hard work, everyone.

MysterE
04-12-2012, 12:42
Hi all -

Just a quick report. We have 50 minutes of time already checked out with 20 minutes returned to me to encode on the video. Please feel free to sign out more than one block if you wish.

I wanted to give a special thanks to AllenGregoryIV for transcribing five minutes of the video and returning it as well as Patrick Flynn and KelliV for transcribing two segments a piece.

Please consider transcribing five minutes of team 1114's video. I know I learned a ton from watching it and feel that with subtitles, many others will as well.

Again, the Google Doc for checking out timeslots is http//tinyurl.com/1114trans and the video is located at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apk_X-maRf8

MysterE
05-12-2012, 20:53
Another report:

Its pretty amazing! We currently have 75 minutes checked out with over 45 minutes completed. For those who have never transcribed before - this is a pretty mean feat.

A special thanks to Siri who has transcribed 10 minutes and to AllenGregory for five minutes of transcription. KeliV has transcribed 10 minutes so far and our MVP at the moment is Patrick Flynn who has done twenty minutes worth of transcription - and probably has memorized most of those segments I imagine.

Now for my part - I've been asked by my principal to do one or two projects so I haven't gotten a lot done on the encoding. I plan on having at least thirty minutes done by the end of this weekend and will post it as a sample.

Please feel free to sign up for a slot at http://tinyurl.com/1114trans

Libby K
06-12-2012, 18:31
I posted this on the other thread... but it has a place here as well.

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Something I think you need to take into account, after seeing that you hosted that clip on your own YouTube Channel:

You should DEFINITELY ASK 1114 if it's okay to re-host their entire presentation. After all, it's their media, their presentation, and they reserve the right to control all the outlets it's posted on.

Sending them the transcript/subtitled version is one thing, rehosting something they worked crazy hard on, therefore drawing the attention away from their channel is another.

AdamCadot
06-12-2012, 22:13
Hi, I'm Adam Cadot, the guy behind Simbotics' website, app and videos.

It's great to see the effort here behind the transcription of the video as it is sad we didn't have sufficient audio equipment available at the time of the recording.

Thanks for the helping us expand the reach of our resources!

Although rather than reupload the video, I think it may be the best idea to just upload captions for the video using YouTube's caption feature http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/static.py?hl=en&topic=2734692&guide=2734661&page=guide.cs

Here's an example of a video with close captioning and if we use their system then we get the added bonus of the animated caption history window they have available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64XzW4_TPRM

Thoughts?