2013 FRC Kickoff Discussion

[Steven Donow]

Topic title is self-explanatory, a little over 30 minutes to go! Let's just have a thread to keep all the discussion of what's going on at kickoff in this one thread.


Excited, as always.

Link to stream,: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics/first/kickoff-2013/


*If the mods wanna have another thread/feel this thread isn't necessary, feel free to delete/lock this ::rtm::

[Tetraman]

Can't wait. There are some interesting things on the NASA channel right now.

[Richard Wallace]

Under way at Benton Harbor, in the beautiful Mendel Center at Lake Michigan College. Eleven teams attending.

Speeches have started ...

[lior9999]

Wooo...exciting! Anyone know if there's a FIRST wiki site? Trying to look at some previous year's ideas to potentially incorporate them into this year's game.

[mjbrauck]

All the prior games are here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRST_Robotics_Competition#Gallery

[Tetraman]

I saw this "Sun" info-video last year. It's quite dull.

[HitokiriAfrosai]

Is anyone with me on the ideo of a keep away game with an arm?

[z_beeblebrox]

Wooo...exciting! Anyone know if there's a FIRST wiki site? Trying to look at some previous year's ideas to potentially incorporate them into this year's game.

Look at the photos on Chief Delphi. Many successful teams post information about their designs. I'm :yikes: :eek: :D excited for the game!!

[inkspell4]

Where is the Game Animation going to be posted?

[Tetraman]

Where is the Game Animation going to be posted?

Most likely on the FIRSTworldTube youtube channel.

[Astrokid248]

I can't imagine how you eastern seaboarders feel. It's only 9:30 and it's still too early in the morning.

[inkspell4]

Most likely on the FIRSTworldTube youtube channel.

Well that stinks the school we are meeting at blocks YouTube can somebody post it here when it is found.

[BAM]

Some derp at Georgia Tech accidentally flashed a picture of the field on the big screen :D :D

[Steven Donow]

From Dave Lavery on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/davelavery/status/287581467998056448

"FIRST Dean just said he wants to give every team a shovel. Game hint??? #omgRobots"

[z_beeblebrox]

Finally starting...

[Steven Donow]

Stream has started, here we go!

[Tetraman]

2008's intro is still better.

[HitokiriAfrosai]

"Some derp at Georgia Tech accidentally flashed a picture of the field on the big screen "

Anyone have a lucky screen cap of this?

[inkspell4]

"Some derp at Georgia Tech accidentally flashed a picture of the field on the big screen "

Anyone have a lucky screen cap of this?

What a spoiler!

[Astrokid248]

Oh wow this is dorkier than usual. Pyramids of Giza greenscreened? SMH.
On the other hand they prerecorded Dean, which actually makes what he's saying sound really cool. Like the bit about his brother's work and how engineering affects it.

[Steven Donow]

Blair. Egypt. In front of a pyramid. 3. My guess? Climb on a wireframe period, the higher rung you're on, the more points.

[IisMathwizard]

Blair. Egypt. In front of a pyramid. 3.

3? pyramids?? SHOVELS?!?

is this archaeology based? Are we digging in the pyramids of Giza; the Three Kings?

[Tetraman]

haha, you could hear a phone vibrating while Dean is talking.


"We've been working on a water project for years" -Dean

Out of context that is a dangerous thing to say.

[sergeydgr8]

Something swinging in the back... game hint?

[Grim Tuesday]

Pyramids will be the gamepiece, calling it now.

[dubiousSwain]

Stephen Colbert will be in the kickoff. so excited.

[Quanta]

Hmm, I think there might be another space theme, because of the Curiosity landing and what not. I would be very excited for that:yikes:

[MetalJacket]

Tetras were pyramid shaped

[Kusha]

How I feel about this kick off:
http://qkme.me/3sg0sm

[Creator Mat]

Pendulum game?

[Steven Donow]

"We've been working on our water project"

I knew it, water game.

[Astrokid248]

Hmm, I think there might be another space theme, because of the Curiosity landing and what not. I would be very excited for that:yikes:

We have to build low budget sky cranes.

[scottbot95]

GUYS!!! IT'S DEAN'S SPEECH!!!

[Calvin Hartley]

Water Game much? (sorry.... had to) :D

[moogboy]

So far I have freaked out twice:
1) when Dean mentioned that he built amplifiers (NEW QUEST!)
2) when Dean mentioned the water game!

[Michael Hill]

"Water" has been mentioned at least a dozen times to not mean something!!!! Water Game!

[scottbot95]

It's a water game!!!!!

[Karibou]

Blair. Egypt. In front of a pyramid. 3. My guess? Climb on a wireframe period, the higher rung you're on, the more points.

Minibot endgame? I can't see big robots doing that because of safety, but minibots could totally do it...

2008's intro is still better.
I'll agree with that.

[IisMathwizard]

Pyramids will be the gamepiece, calling it now.

....I hope you're wrong...

[Astrokid248]

I love how you can hear the parts where they cut Dean's speech.

[Kusha]

Lots of triangles so far.

[scottbot95]

Minibot endgame? I can't see big robots doing that because of safety, but minibots could totally do it...

Don't be ricidulous; it's clearly a water game!!! Dean said so!!!

[Calvin Hartley]

guys look!! Triangles!!!

[dubiousSwain]

by this time i would have made a water game reference. its 13 mins after kickoff and i still havent. what went wrong?

[fortinj1354]

Some derp at Georgia Tech accidentally flashed a picture of the field on the big screen :D :D

It was a bit more than a flash... I didn't get a picture though.

[DominickC]

Anyone else notice the submarine in the background?

[Astrokid248]

See? Curiosity. Space game.

[Tetraman]

Lots of talk about teamwork. Seems to be the theme for this year.

[Grim Tuesday]

Will be similar to me Curiosity rover, eh?

[Reanna]

Pyramids in the PTC commercial, hmm.

[dubiousSwain]

water in space. calling it

[scottbot95]

Anyone else notice the submarine in the background?

YES!!!! WATER GAME!!!

[Astrokid248]

NOOOOO not another short robot game. I hate short bots.

[sergeydgr8]

@fortinj1354 can you describe it?

[z_beeblebrox]

What did Al have?

[Kusha]

OH GOD MINIBOT OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

[Coin3]

Guys, I'm starting to think that it's a water game. New bumper and electronic rules?! :O

[cadandcookies]

No sizing box? What is this blasphemy?

[scottbot95]

Guys, I'm starting to think that it's a water game. New bumper and electronic rules?! :O

you don't want your bumpers to get soggy.

[Soldier8D]

Flowers Speech time.

[moogboy]

No sizing box? What is this blasphemy?

Michigan just has bags...maybe they're rolling it out nationwide?

[dubiousSwain]

minibots inside amphibian short bots on space terrain. calling it

[scottbot95]

Flowers Speech time.

No one cares. We all know dean's is the best :P

[Michael Hill]

I DEMAND A ROBOT SIZING BOX!!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!


Wait, wit?

[BAM]

2 Large pyramids on a carpet field. Sadly not a water game. :mad:

Did not see game pieces, Sorry.

[Kusha]

All this space discussion, what is this.

[Andrew Y.]

No sizing box, maybe they are giving us a perimeter this year

[scottbot95]

Did you hear woody? He said you have to put weed in front of him!

[Soldier8D]

Anyone notice that he's dressed like Steve Jobs?

[xraymypanda]

Flowers just mentioned two separate groups of 4 people. 4v4?

[nightpool]

A swarm of tiny bots, lifting huge things! (EDIT: HUGE PYRAMIDS)

[dellagd]

NO NO NO Same size robots please!!!!

[cadandcookies]

May include others, like Galileo, Einstein, Newton, and Curie

I see what you did there, Woodie...

[dubiousSwain]

water filled pyramids in space. the spacecore would be proud

[Michael Hill]

No sizing box, maybe they are giving us a perimeter this year

You talking like baggage at the airport?

[fortinj1354]

2 Large pyramids on a carpet field. Sadly not a water game. :mad:

Did not see game pieces, Sorry.

Yeah, that's what we saw at Tech

[Calvin Hartley]

Michigan just has bags...maybe they're rolling it out nationwide?

Would the bags fit in that box he had? It looked small to me for that....

[scottbot95]

A swarm of tiny bots, lifting huge things!

Oh, god.....

[dubiousSwain]

Anyone notice that he's dressed like Steve Jobs?
Dont make me think like that

[Johnbot]

No, bigger robots!
New weight limit: 1 ton :)

[Karibou]

Michigan just has bags...maybe they're rolling it out nationwide?

Bags for transporting the robot, yes, but not sizing it. Bag and Tag was introduced to all of FRC last year.

[brysonhicks]

OHH GOD THERES FRISBEES !!!!!!!!!

[adf0221]

Frisbee!

[NotSoSiniSter]

FRISBEE!!! :D

[Astrokid248]

Obligatory will.i.am cameo

[nightpool]

FRISBEE GOLF!

[MisterG]

ahhh. i soo called a frolf game weeks ago.

[dubiousSwain]

Obligatory will.i.am cameo
of course

[MetalJacket]

I don't see throwing game two years in a row.

[brysonhicks]

ITS A CLIMBING GAME!!!!!

[Astrokid248]

Climbing pyramids, pretty obvious now.

[Kusha]

Rock Climbing?!?

[dubiousSwain]

I KNEW WE WERE CLIMBING!!!!!!!!!

[Soldier8D]

ITS A CLIMBING GAME!!!!!

climbing pyramids?

[Calvin Hartley]

climbing game? Under water? Or flying saucers?

[Andrew Y.]

And there is climbing

[brysonhicks]

the end game may be a mini bot climbing something that trows a frizbe into water ontop of a pyramid

[Tetraman]

They need to tone down the music in the kickoff video, just slightly lower so we can clearly hear the speakers.

[scottbot95]

The KoP people aren't wearing elf hats this year :(

[Steven Donow]

The KoP people aren't wearing elf hats this year :(

That was because of the "football" hint last year :p

[dubiousSwain]

Im going to be sad when they relese the game because then we will have to stop speculating

[HitokiriAfrosai]

elves arent egyptian. obviosly its pyramids. you ever see an elf on a pyramid?

[brysonhicks]

NEVER GUNNA GIVE YOU UP... NEVER GUNNA LET YOU DOWN

[Soldier8D]

Im going to be sad when they relese the game because then we will have to stop speculating

We'll start for next years water game.

[cadandcookies]

The KoP people aren't wearing elf hats this year :(

FIRST isn't employing elves anymore?! They have to go back to Santa's workshop?

[ProgrammerMatt]

KIT OF PARTS:

Adhesives, tapes...

No motor controllers included..

Crio simulator....

[scottbot95]

Sealed motor controlers. Clearly a water game.

[brysonhicks]

OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

[ProgrammerMatt]

FRISBE GAME!!!!

Altimate accent

[Soldier8D]

ULTIMATE ASCENT WAT

[dubiousSwain]

everyone stop and full screen the animation

[Astrokid248]

Feed just broke in Houston. Groans everywhere. Fixed now but still.

[sergeydgr8]

Climbing on pyramids! Frisbees! Sounds like a fun game.

[DominickC]

Where will the encryption password come in?

[dubiousSwain]

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[HitokiriAfrosai]

Im going to be sad when they relese the game because then we will have to stop speculating

same

[Kusha]

IT'S BASKETBALL BUT WITH FREAKING FRISBEES. AND PYRAMIDS INSTEAD OF RAMPS. WAT

[Reanna]

this is a joke right, show us the real game animation now please.
YOU GOT ME.

[Waffles]

...I'm really scared. D:

[dubiousSwain]

IT'S BASKETBALL BUT WITH FREAKING FRISBEES. AND PYRAMIDS INSTEAD OF RAMPS. WAT
NO ITS NOT. ITS FRISBEE GOLF WITH PYRAMIDS AND ROBOTS AND STUFF

[dubiousSwain]

this is a joke right, show us the real game animation now please.
YOU GOT ME.
Thats cool first, show us the real field now

[thefro526]

Does anyone have the manual password?

[Reanna]

Does anyone have the manual password?
sAucersFlyRobotsClimb!

[dubiousSwain]

same

[xraymypanda]

Does anyone have the manual password?
sAucersFlyRobotsClimb!

[dubiousSwain]

...I'm really scared. D:
same

[thisOrrthat]

Is there a download for the animation yet?

[Astrokid248]

sAucersFlyRobotsClimb

EHRMP! Actually it's sAucersFlyRobotsClimb! The ! is important.

[neal]

It's sAucersFlyRobotsClimb! actually. With the exclamation mark.

[Reanna]

EHRMP! Actually it's sAucersFlyRobotsClimb! The ! is important.
Ah, I had no idea! I'm sorry, thanks for clearing that up for me!

[Waffles]

I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

*the feels*

[Dinoyan]

interesting:]

[xraymypanda]

size is 54 in cylinder

[Soldier8D]

Yeah anyone else notice the 54'' cylinder requirement?

[Quanta]

Does anyone know if they have have CAD drawings of the field from FIRST yet?

[xraymypanda]

Can feeders flick disc around the feeder station? Havent seen anything against it in the manual.

[Karibou]

Can feeders flick disc around the feeder station? Havent seen anything against it in the manual.

Read the manual again, it's in there. "3.3.7 Human Actions"

[xraymypanda]

Read the manual again, it's in there. "3.3.7 Human Actions"
Yeah just saw that

[ShotgunNinja]

It kicked off today, and we already have 10 pages of posts!?!?!

:cool:

[virtuald]

Is there a download for the animation yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5MGEZNrf0

[xraymypanda]

Anyone know where we can get the frisbees? They're Wham-O Super Flyer (Item # 53214, 180 g). It doesnt look like Target or Walmart have them.

[Private_Donut]

It kicked off today, and we already have 10 pages of posts!?!?!

:cool:
still not enough pages

[Waffles]

Anyone know where we can get the frisbees? They're Wham-O Super Flyer (Item # 53214, 180 g). It doesnt look like Target or Walmart have them.

They have the Wham-O brand frisbees on Amazon. I'm not sure if they're the correct model or not though :)

I'm assuming you mean that their weight is 180g, and unfortunately all the ones on Amazon are most commonly 175, and below... sorry! :'(

I'm just a helpful spectator that needs to be yelled at to read her manual!
(if it ever stops being bombarded... of course~)

[xraymypanda]

Yeah I meant weight 180 g. They're unusual frisbees. Doesnt seem anyone sells them. Leave it to FIRST to make it hard to get game pieces.

[joelg236]

What are the red and blue discs for? I'm completely lost for an answer.

[Waffles]

Yeah I meant weight 180 g. They're unusual frisbees. Doesnt seem anyone sells them. Leave it to FIRST to make it hard to get game pieces.

yeah well... almost as troubling as hmm.. I dunno... LUNACY PIECES *cringe* oh the rivets... THE RIVETING...THE CREATING OUR OWN... TOO MANY.
http://media.penfieldrobotics.com/2008-2009-FIRST-Robotics/Build-Season/Week-5-22-28/i-zZ2nRDb/0/M/102_0502-M.jpg

[xraymypanda]

What are the red and blue discs for? I'm completely lost for an answer.
You can only score in the pyramid goal using your colored disks. You can also use the colored disks to score in the regular goals.

[johnmaguire2013]

I may be daft but I am failing to see the correlation of the hints to this game.

[moogboy]

I may be daft but I am failing to see the correlation of the hints to this game.

The Teams are never going to let their own robots down...and...I got nothing on the other ones.

[Waffles]

I may be daft but I am failing to see the correlation of the hints to this game.

well...*sighs* they nailed it with the colors!

;D giggle

[johnmaguire2013]

Not even! The thumb tacks on the Rick Astley poster were red, blue, and yellow! :P

[alectronic]

What are the red and blue discs for? I'm completely lost for an answer.

From GLOSSARY:
SCORED: A DISC is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if any part of the DISC has crossed through the opening of the GOAL, is in the GOAL at the end of the MATCH, and the DISC is not in contact with any ROBOT from that ALLIANCE. Additionally, for a DISC to be considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S PYRAMID GOAL, it must correspond to the PYRAMID color.

[Waffles]

Not even! The thumb tacks on the Rick Astley poster were red, blue, and yellow! :P

I am a troll. They are all trolls. Darn you, GCD. At least they weren't just giving us dots on random CD posts...*cough DAVE*...

Man.. I can't even begin to think of how this game will be attempted. I think they really kinda stepped it up this year. I could be wrong O_o but it's not the easiest thing to pick up a frisbee if it's not upside-down :O vacuuuuuum boooooot is the new meta XD

[joelg236]

From GLOSSARY:

Thank you.

[Aamid Ahbab]

Did they just skip the animation safety award?! Anyone know who won?

[Waffles]

Did they just skip the animation safety award?! Anyone know who won?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109805

Not quite yet... actually... come to think of it, sometimes they also only release it at regionals. :( going off the top of my head.

[Kevin Thorp]

Did they just skip the animation safety award?! Anyone know who won?

Autodesk canceled the Design Excellence Award just a few weeks before the Kickoff, and FIRST ignored the Safety Animation contest.

So far, this hasn't been a good year for animation teams. :(

[Recla1mer 329]

well the pins in the first hint could have represented hanging. rick ashley's song "never gonna give you up, never gonna LET YOU DOWN..." i never saw the second hint but the third was a code that translated into a rhyme about i think it was:a rose kissed. i for get the next part but the last was about a dinner missed. when a dinner is missed the only thing there are plates. plates=saucers. saucers=flying. flying saucers= frisbees