OPR after Week One Events

[Ed Law]

The OPR/CCWM numbers have been posted, please see

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174

There are a number of points I would like to make:

1) Central Valley data is incomplete, finals results not published, team results not accessible from "Query" tab. I will include Central Valley data in future weeks when data becomes available.
2) Central Valley data OPR data is included since we only use qualifying round match results
3) OPR for auto, climb and teleop are calculated similar to last year. They are in each regional/district tab in column AA to AC.
4) World OPR/CCWM ranking is calculated. However since there are no interactions between teams playing in one event with teams playing in another event yet, the numbers should be very close to their OPR/CCWM number from the one event. It is not very meaningful right now. I am showing it for completeness.
5) All future events links have been added. You will be able to refresh and recalculate OPR/CCWM at every event if you have internet access.

If you find any error or have any questions, please let me know.

[Alpha Beta]

Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)

Top 10 overall winning margin
1986 60.0
610 51.0
3015 48.2
245 44.3
11 42.6
3931 41.7
4451 40.9
3173 40.9
48 34.1
862 34.0


Top 10 autonomous OPR
1986 28.7
70 22.9
11 16.4
1918 16.4
3501 16.3
2590 16.1
133 16
4124 15.6
3974 15.5
3656 15.2

Top 10 climbing OPR
1277 32.2
4819 31.6
213 28.0
4451 27.0
1991 25.3
61 24.2
340 19.2
1168 17.6
3196 16.8
539 16.6

Top 10 teleop OPR
3173 37.9
610 36.4
1986 33.9
131 31.3
245 29.9
2590 27.8
3015 25.7
1640 24.7
862 24.7
11 23.8

[Akash Rastogi]

MORT looks good in numbers too! :) What's crazy is that people at Palmetto let 11 and 245 even pair up! 4451 was also fantastic. Great rookie team for 2013.

Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)

Top 10 overall winning margin
1986 60.0
610 51.0
3015 48.2
245 44.3
11 42.6
3931 41.7
4451 40.9
3173 40.9
48 34.1
862 34.0


Top 10 autonomous OPR
1986 28.7
70 22.9
11 16.4
1918 16.4
3501 16.3
2590 16.1
133 16
4124 15.6
3974 15.5
3656 15.2

Top 10 climbing OPR
1277 32.2
4819 31.6
213 28.0
4451 27.0
1991 25.3
61 24.2
340 19.2
1168 17.6
3196 16.8
539 16.6

Top 10 teleop OPR
3173 37.9
610 36.4
1986 33.9
131 31.3
245 29.9
2590 27.8
3015 25.7
1640 24.7
862 24.7
11 23.8

[ttldomination]

I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

[Grim Tuesday]

1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points

No surprises here.

Though I would expect this to change in the coming weeks. As defense adapts to these playstyles, I think pyramid range shooters teleop points will only climb (no pun intended) and as the powerhouses unveil, jacks of all trades will start to dominate climbing.

[PayneTrain]

Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)


Well you also won your event so I guess that helps :D

I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

[Anupam Goli]

MORT looks good in numbers too! :) What's crazy is that people at Palmetto let 11 and 245 even pair up!

Don't remind me of my mistake....

Was hoping our week 1 performance would give us a top 10 opr worthy look, but now that we're rolling into week 2, we likely won't see this list.

[ttldomination]

Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.

[Siri]

I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.It's intended to take defensive contributions into account by using the winning margin rather than the points scored. Ed's got a thing on the math; the first file on the CD Media page he linked.



Wow. I cannot believe what I'm seeing right now. This is so cool! /dork


Thanks, Ed and Akash.

[Jaxom]

1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points


Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

[vikesrock777]

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNDNXdb0Vy8

I agree with what you're getting at though, you don't have to be a full court shooter to put up some of the best teleop numbers, 1986 being a prime example of this.

[Jaxom]

610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

[MagiChau]

Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

From my interpretation if they thought they could shoot without being impeded they would do full court shots. Otherwise, they will do pyramid shots. Their full court shooter is deadly accurate when they do run it though.

[Akash Rastogi]

Thanks, Ed and Akash.


Quick correction: Ed and Aaron* :) My post was quoting Aaron.

1640 looked solid at Hatboro, I'm happy a couple of the teams on Aaron's lists are from MAR.

[Grim Tuesday]

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

Agreed, some of the best pyramid shooters can lead teleop but 3173 (exclusive) and 610 (optional) were both full court shooters as far as I know. Like I said, I expect this to change the more prevelant defense gets. 3003 absolutely shut down 3173 in the seminfials at FLR with their arm and anyone tall could do that. However, qualifications are luck of the draw, so expect full court shooters to be seeding high as they won't always have a competent defender against them.

[biancs15]

From my interpretation if they thought they could shoot without being impeded they would do full court shots. Otherwise, they will do pyramid shots. Their full court shooter is deadly accurate when they do run it though.

At BAE, our main strategy was actually to run cycles from the feeder station to the pyramid. With no defence played, we were able to run 7 cycles (shoot 28 discs) into the high goal and low hang. We did this in finals match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvjdNey2IlM&list=UUx-UAlC_r-hOLj6lrIM554Q&index=7

We only demonstrated our full court shots during 2 matches, where we were fairly certain that no defence would be played on us. However, when defence was played, it turned out that we gain more points through running cycles than with the long bombs.

Thanks for the kind words!!

-Austin

[Alpha Beta]

Top 10 autonomous OPR
1986 28.7
70 22.9
11 16.4
1918 16.4
3501 16.3
2590 16.1
133 16
4124 15.6
3974 15.5
3656 15.2

Just watched the Kettering videos. Looks like 70 had some similar autonomous ideas to our team. Who else on this list was consistently scoring extra autonomous disks? It was more rare than I thought it would be week 1.

Hearing those shots hit right above the driver station over and over again before they ever touch the sticks has to leave quite an impression with the opposite alliance.

This past weekend at Hub City we were up against 1986 in the semi-finals. When they single-handily rain 42 pts in 15 seconds right above your head there is a psychological impact not to mention the 24 pts you need to make up.

[Wayne TenBrink]

Just watched the Kettering videos. Looks like 70 had some similar autonomous ideas to our team. Who else on this list was consistently scoring extra autonomous disks? It was more rare than I thought it would be week 1.


We didn't at Traverse City but fully expect to be doing so at West MI. 2474 struggled with it early so they aren't on this list, but they were shooting more than 3 later on. I am also a bit surpised at how rare this has been so far, considering how valuable and relatively simple it is to do.

Gotta love them Martians...