Texas Rankings

[Greg Needel]

Similar to what Joe Ross did for California (in this thread) (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114884) I have applied the FiM ranking system to teams in texas through week 2.



Here are the FiM points system.


POINT CATEGORY POINTS POINTS
Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds
Win 2
Tie 1
Final Alliance Captains After Picking
#1 Alliance Captain 16
#2 Alliance Captain 15
#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain 14 down to 9
Draft Order by Acceptance
#1 Draft Pick (Accepted) 16
#2 Draft Pick (Accepted) 15
#3Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick 14 down to 1
Elimination Round Performance
Winning Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 30
Second Pick 24
Finalist Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 20
Second Pick 16
Semi Finalist Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 10
Second Pick 8
Awards
Industrial Design 5
Quality 5
Excellence in Engineering 5
Innovation in Control 5
Creativity 5
Entrepreneurship 5
Team Spirit 2
Gracious Professionalism 2
Imagery 2
Highest Rookie Seed 2
Industrial Safety 2
Judges Award 2
Rookie Inspiration 2


I plan on updating this through the season using the teams's first two regional performances. At this point there are 2 teams which have had 2 events (and they are marked with an *). Also many teams have not played.


Rank Team Points
1 148 67
2 118 64
3 4063 63
4 2587 61
5 2789* 60
6 57 54
7 4587 45
8 1801* 43
9 1477 38
10 3310 38
11 2936 37
12 1296 35
13 3847 35
14 4694 35
15 231 34
16 2468 34
17 2848 32
18 624 31
19 4852 31
20 4328 30
21 647 28
22 1429 27
23 704 26
24 3741 26
25 2582 25
26 418 22
27 4552 21
28 4570 21
29 441 20
30 3103 18
31 3366 15
32 4378 15
33 2585 12
34 4589 12
35 4689 12
36 2881 10
37 3335 10
38 3481 10
39 4206 10
40 4300 10
41 4351 10
42 4734 10
43 4853 10
44 3696 9
45 457 8
46 2965 8
47 3730 8
48 4155 8
49 4295 8
50 4298 8
51 4346 8
52 4717 8
53 1865 7
54 3735 7
55 653 6
56 1642 6
57 1817 6
58 2613 6
59 2737 6
60 2882 6
61 2982 6
62 3833 6
63 4280 6
64 4301 6
65 4798 6
66 4799 6
67 3305 5
68 1255 4
69 3035 4
70 3728 4
71 4672 4
72 4639 2
499 0
922 0
1745 0
1774 0
2158 0
2583 0
2721 0
2747 0
2805 0
2833 0
2897 0
2948 0
2950 0
2966 0
2969 0
2985 0
3005 0
3028 0
3029 0
3037 0
3043 0
3080 0
3240 0
3282 0
3320 0
3345 0
3350 0
3353 0
3355 0
3370 0
3413 0
3417 0
3497 0
3545 0
3552 0
3561 0
3582 0
3614 0
3676 0
3679 0
3743 0
3802 0
3834 0
3997 0
3999 0
4000 0
4045 0
4076 0
4138 0
4192 0
4219 0
4259 0
4271 0
4282 0
4317 0
4332 0
4335 0
4354 0
4359 0
4364 0
4412 0
4502 0
4597 0
4610 0
4641 0
4670 0
4679 0
4696 0
4747 0

[MattC9]

I know you said there would be changes to this, will chairmans and eingineering inspiration be added to the awards list?

[Greg Needel]

I know you said there would be changes to this, will chairmans and eingineering inspiration be added to the awards list?

Right now Chairmans, Engineering inspiration and rookie all-star are not point awards in the FIM ranking system. Those awards qualify you for the state championship to compete for those awards but don't impact the rank as they are listed. When texas moves to the district system I am sure there will be many discussions of how this is handled but for now I am going to leave those awards out of the rankings.

[2789_B_Garcia]

I plan on updating this through the season using the teams's first two regional performances.

Aww...What if we 3-peat to finals at Alamo? :D

Seriously, though, thanks for putting this together, our team loves data!

[Greg Needel]

Aww...What if we 3-peat to finals at Alamo? :D

The current method used for FiM is only 2 events count( although I am not clear how it is decided which 2 events). This is because under district systems each team is guaranteed 2 events, and while you can play more it would be unfair to buy your way into the state championship just by attending loads of events.

The real question is when Texas goes to districts how big will the state championship be.


Seriously, though, thanks for putting this together, our team loves data!

You are welcome. I like data also. See you at Alamo.

[GaryVoshol]

The current method used for FiM is only 2 events count( although I am not clear how it is decided which 2 events).
The first 2 districts they attend. 3rd districts are just for practice. Any out-of-state regionals also do not count toward FiM rankings - although they could qualify a team for the Championship.

[2789_B_Garcia]

Right now Chairmans, Engineering inspiration and rookie all-star are not point awards in the FIM ranking system. Those awards qualify you for the state championship to compete for those awards but don't impact the rank as they are listed.

Under FiM, how many teams make it to the state championship through the ranking system? If a team qualifies for state with a regional chairman's award, does their robot still compete, giving them the chance to qualify for St Louis through competing?

[nikeairmancurry]

Under FiM, how many teams make it to the state championship through the ranking system? If a team qualifies for state with a regional chairman's award, does their robot still compete, giving them the chance to qualify for St Louis through competing?

All district Chairman's award winners do compete at the state championship with the robot. So they have more options of getting to St. Louis, via 1 of 3 Chairman's spots, winning the state championship or qualifiying based on points. The top 64 teams in the state based on points compete at the state championship. So this year 64/207 teams compete, so about 30% of Michigan teams.

[scottandme]

Under FiM, how many teams make it to the state championship through the ranking system? If a team qualifies for state with a regional chairman's award, does their robot still compete, giving them the chance to qualify for St Louis through competing?

FiM has 64 teams qualify for the state tournament (out of 207 this year). MAR had 53 at MAR CMP last year (out of 99), and this year it says "at least 50" out of 109. Looks like Texas currently has 140 teams, so assuming a 50-60 team event it would be more selective than MAR but less selective than Michigan.

RCA automatically qualifies your robot to attend the State/Region CMP. EI and RAS were able to attend (sans robot) and set up a booth to compete for those awards.

[Coach Norm]

Greg,

You beat me to it. I kept one of these last year for curiosity sake.

Do you have a spreadsheet for the calculations or doing it by hand?

Joe Ross and I were visiting about it.

I asked him how he would handle teams that compete in more than two tournaments? He is keeping one with an average as well for each team.

Very interesting information to look at.

I also wonder if the District model will only include Texas.

See you in San Antonio at Alamo.

[lynca]

Similar to what Joe Ross did for California (in this thread) (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114884) I have applied the FiM ranking system to teams in texas through week 2.


Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

[Greg Needel]

Do you have a spreadsheet for the calculations or doing it by hand?

I asked him how he would handle teams that compete in more than two tournaments? He is keeping one with an average as well for each team.

Very interesting information to look at.

I also wonder if the District model will only include Texas.

See you in San Antonio at Alamo.

I have a spreadsheet for this, but it still requires a bunch of manual data entry work. I did this while I was sitting on an airplane so time wasn't the limiting factor, that being said I want to clean it up a bit before I would send it out.

I have no idea how the districts will be setup. I have heard rumblings with all sorts of possibilities including what states (or countries) get included and when the change will happen (next year or the following year or beyond).


I look forward to seeing you and your team at Alamo.


Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

HA, had I known you were working on it I would have waited to do mine :-P. I think alot of people in the texas region are starting to think districts with all of the rumors floating around.

[JohnSchneider]

I imagine we'll probably get Oklahoma, and arkansas included. I doubt Mexico because of the logistical implications. Theyll probably get their own regional once texas and the south moves to district, since they wont be able to come into the district events.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

[JohnSchneider]

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

[AllenGregoryIV]

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

TRR is close but it's still just a sign up and go type event. It also doesn't have the title of being the "Texas State Championship" yet or being exclusive to Texas teams. My main idea with doing something like Minnesota is to get teams used to the point system and having to qualify for events.

[2789_B_Garcia]

As an aside, according to our scouting data of the top 25 teams on this list:

22 / 25 can shoot
20 / 25 can climb to Level 1
4 / 25 can climb above Level 1
8 / 25 will be at Alamo

If anyone's interested on the scouting data we collected from Lone Star & Lubbock, just let me know!

[itsjustmrb]

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

[JohnSchneider]

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

[2789_B_Garcia]

Sweet, THANKS!

[lynca]

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

Thanks for the calculations !
I would guess Cryptonite 624 should be up there in that list as well.

I snipped the few going to Alamo this week.


5. 624* 80
6. 1477* 79
9. 4063 63
10. 2587 61
11. 2789* 60

[I-DOG]

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that ;)

[JohnSchneider]

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that ;)

Eek! I'm sorry! Totally did not mean to skip you guys. But you seem to have fixed the problem for me thanks!

[AllenGregoryIV]

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

Also of note that's not our number, 3487 is pretty good though but from IN.

[2789_B_Garcia]

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that ;)

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way :cool:

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend ;)

[JohnSchneider]

Also of note that's not our number, 3487 is pretty good though but from IN.

I'm going to have to stop posting while working on math homework. Too many numbers! Sorry.

[itsjustmrb]

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way :cool:

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend ;)

Sorry we were not in a position to help you with a second pick, but I think you would settle for getting to play the wild card ;-)

Thank you Team 2468 and Team 2789 for making the Alamo Regional one of the most exciting set of elimination rounds I have seen. Team 4063 would like to graciously thank you for allowing us to be part of your alliance.

[I-DOG]

So earlier today I was working on which 64 teams in Texas would have qualified for the Texas State Championship this year. However, due to my computer committing suicide on me I lost the Excel spread sheet that took me 3 hours to make...

I'll try to recreate the spread sheet tonight and post the rankings tomorrow morning.

Here are somethings that I remember before my computer died:

There were 9 teams between ranks 60-68 with 12 points. This means that we would have had a few tie breakers come into play.

A few Texas teams, such as FRC 4000, do not exist anymore even though they were only in circulation for one year.

Teams that qualified through "District" Chairman's/Engineering Inspiration/Rookie All-star were:

1429
2468
2936
118
4502
4610

The top ten was:
1. 148
2. 118
3. 4063
4. 3310
5. 2587
6. 2468
7. 2936
8. 231
9. 704
T-10. 624
T-10. 3847

Hopefully these small nuggets of info will sate your curiosity for tonight. :D

[itsjustmrb]

Greg,

I know you are waaaaay busy, but any chance of a Texas ranking update?

TIA,

Mr. B

[I-DOG]

I'm not completely finished but since Mr. B asked for it. Only half of the tie breakers are done and before you ask I'm only doing tie breakers for the top 64 teams. After that it's just too much to ask of me :(

Rank Teams Points Tie Breakers
1 148 135
2 118 131
3 4063 122
4 3310 105
5 2587 102
6 2468 96
7 2936 84
8 231 82
9 704 81
10 3847 80 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
11 624 80
12 1477 79
13 1296 77
14 57 75
15 2848 62
16 2789 60
17 3802 54
18 3997 53
19 4587 45
20 1429 44
21 1801 43 3. Draft Points
22 4589 43 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
23 647 43
24 4610 39
25 3335 36
26 3355 35 3. Draft Points
27 4694 35
28 3103 34
29 4852 31 3. Draft Points
30 4206 31
31 4328 30 3. Draft Points
32 3481 30
33 3545 29 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
34 4641 29 3. Draft Points
35 4300 29
36 441 28
37 4354 27 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
38 1817 27 3. Draft Points
39 3735 27
40 3741 26
41 4502 26
42 2582 25
43 457 25
44 4282 25
45 3676 25
46 3834 25
47 4359 24
48 418 22
49 1745 22
50 4552 21
51 4570 21
52 3696 19
53 2158 19
54 3497 18
55 4335 17
56 653 16
57 3366 15
58 4378 15
59 3999 13
60 2585 12
61 4689 12
62 1642 12
63 2805 12
64 2966 12
65 3005 12
66 3679 12
67 4192 12
68 4259 12
69 2833 11
70 3417 11
71 4045 11
72 2881 10
73 4351 10
74 4734 10
75 4853 10
76 922 10
77 2950 10
78 2985 10
79 4364 10
80 4597 10
81 3028 10
82 3043 10
83 1255 9
84 4317 9
85 2965 8
86 3730 8
87 4155 8
88 4295 8
89 4298 8
90 4346 8
91 4717 8
92 2583 8
93 2721 8
94 3282 8
95 3370 8
96 3080 8
97 3240 8
98 3320 8
99 3345 8
100 3413 8
101 3582 8
102 3614 8
103 4138 8
104 1865 7
105 2747 7
106 2613 6
107 2737 6
108 2882 6
109 2982 6
110 3833 6
111 4280 6
112 4301 6
113 4798 6
114 4799 6
115 1774 6
116 3037 6
117 4332 6
118 4412 6
119 4696 6
120 3552 6
121 3561 6
122 4076 6
123 4219 6
124 3305 5
125 3035 4
126 3728 4
127 4672 4
128 499 4
129 2969 4
130 3350 4
131 4670 4
132 3029 4
133 3353 4
134 3743 4
135 4639 2
136 4271 2
137 4747 2

[2789_B_Garcia]

So...HYPOTHETICALLY speaking...under this model...the top 64 teams would then go to state, and then only 6 could qualify for champs?

....

[I-DOG]

So...HYPOTHETICALLY speaking...under this model...the top 64 teams would then go to state, and then only 6 could qualify for champs?

....

No. Under this model 27 teams would go to Championship.

QUALIFYING FOR THE FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP
3 spots – one for each of the three State Championship Chairman’s Award winners
3 spots – one for each of the three teams making up the winning alliance at the State Championship
1 spot – for the State Championship Rookie All-Star Award winner
1 spot – for the State Championship Engineering Inspiration Award winner
The remaining 19 qualifying spots will be filled by starting at the top of the re-computed rankings and moving down as far as is necessary to fill the nineteen spots, skipping over teams that are already eligible or scheduled to attend.

[2789_B_Garcia]

INteresting...

[JohnSchneider]

which is only 3 more than go currently (Albeit some of our spots got to visiting teams, and if by some force of weirdness 148 didnt qualify normally we'd send 25 instead of 24. )

[GaryVoshol]

No. Under this model 27 teams would go to Championship.
MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.

[I-DOG]

MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.

Well if I were to assume 8 spots were a given. It would end up around 20 if we do some simple math. 19/207 * 137(#of teams) and we round down for every 10 teams or something like that which would cause us to arrive at 20 Texas teams.

This year only 16 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 16 :D

[2789_B_Garcia]

This year only 15 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 15 :D

Yup...Hub City and Alamo were good to the out-of-state teams lol

[JohnSchneider]

Well if I were to assume 8 spots were a given. It would end up around 20 if we do some simple math. 19/207 * 137 and we round down for every 10 teams or something like that which would cause us to arrive at 20 Texas teams.

This year only 15 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 15 :D

Season isn't done ;)

[I-DOG]

Season isn't done ;)

The only Texas teams left that haven't qualified and are competing this week are 1477, 3366, 3847. Therefore, even if ALL of these teams qualified for championship it would still not be greater than the amount produced by a Texas district system. 20 is still greater than a max of 19 ;)

[artdutra04]

MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.This is completely the wrong logic to solve this problem.

If all new areas contemplating moving to districts get stuck at the the MI ratio, most areas currently qualify more teams via regionals than they would via this district formula. If this happens, we'll probably never see more districts, because why move to districts and qualify less teams for CMP?

The correct way should be to increase the number of MI qualifying spots (IMHO MI should qualify 25-30 teams as they would currently have 4-5 regionals if they were not districts). Ideally, FIRST should create a universal formula for determining the number of Championship berths a district gets based upon number of teams in that district, so that all current and potential districts are fair and identical in # of CMP berths.

Edit: As a rough pass at a first guessing a formula, I would estimate # of CMP berths = 18% of total teams, rounded up to next integer. Using this formula, the following current and proposed districts would qualify:

MI: 38 teams
TX: 26 teams (currently qualifies 24 via 4 regionals).
CA: 39 teams

[I-DOG]

Getting to the goodies though...

Here are the teams that would have been invited to compete in the Texas State Championship IF it existed this year.

Rank Teams Points Tie Breakers
1 148 135
2 118 131
3 4063 122
4 3310 105
5 2587 102
6 2468 96
7 2936 84
8 231 82
9 704 81
10 3847 80 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
11 624 80
12 1477 79
13 1296 77
14 57 75
15 2848 62
16 2789 60
17 3802 54
18 3997 53
19 4587 45
20 1429 44
21 1801 43 3. Draft Points
22 4589 43 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
23 647 43
24 4610 39
25 3335 36
26 3355 35 3. Draft Points
27 4694 35
28 3103 34
29 4852 31 3. Draft Points
30 4206 31
31 4328 30 3. Draft Points
32 3481 30
33 3545 29 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
34 4641 29 3. Draft Points
35 4300 29
36 441 28
37 4354 27 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
38 1817 27 3. Draft Points
39 3735 27
40 3741 26 3. Draft Points
41 4502 26
42 457 25 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
43 3834 25 7. Highest Match Score- 116
44 4282 25 7. Highest Match Score- 99
45 3676 25 3. Draft Points
46 2582 25
47 4359 24
48 1745 22 3. Draft Points
49 418 22
50 4570 21 4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved
51 4552 21
52 2158 19 2. Best Elimination Round Finish
53 3696 19
54 3497 18
55 4335 17
56 653 16
57 4378 15 3. Draft Points
58 3366 15
59 3999 13
60 4192 12 4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 14
61 4259 12 4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 17
62 3679 12 7. Highest Match Score- 76
63 2585 12 4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 18
64 2966 12 4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 19


It would have been fun to crown the kings of Texas. Maybe sometime in the near future... :rolleyes:

[cgmv123]

This is completely the wrong logic to solve this problem.

If all new areas contemplating moving to districts get stuck at the the MI ratio, most areas currently qualify more teams via regionals than they would via this district formula. If this happens, we'll probably never see more districts, because why move to districts and qualify less teams for CMP?

The correct way should be to increase the number of MI qualifying spots (IMHO MI should qualify 25-30 teams as they would currently have 4-5 regionals if they were not districts). Ideally, FIRST should create a universal formula for determining the number of Championship berths a district gets based upon number of teams in that district, so that all current and potential districts are fair and identical in # of CMP berths.

Edit: As a rough pass at a first guessing a formula, I would estimate # of CMP berths = 18% of total teams, rounded up to next integer. Using this formula, the following current and proposed districts would qualify:

MI: 38 teams
TX: 26 teams (currently qualifies 24 via 4 regionals).
CA: 39 teams

It's supposed to be based on the number of teams Michigan has as a whole versus the number of teams in FIRST ("representation by population"). Since Michigan has 207 teams, which is ~ 8% of the total teams in FRC, they get ~8% of the slots at Championship, or 27 this year.

Texas would get ~19 slots using the same logic.

[AllenGregoryIV]

It would have been fun to crown the kings of Texas. Maybe sometime in the near future... :rolleyes:

Like all of these teams registering for TRR?

Thanks for putting all this together, hopefully all three of us Texas teams can get our championship number up to where it should be.

[GaryVoshol]

It's supposed to be based on the number of teams Michigan has as a whole versus the number of teams in FIRST ("representation by population"). Since Michigan has 207 teams, which is ~ 8% of the total teams in FRC, they get ~8% of the slots at Championship, or 27 this year.

Texas would get ~19 slots using the same logic.
When FiM started, we had 3 regionals so they gave us 18 slots. They totally ignored the point that had we not gone to districts, we would have had to add a 4th regional and thus would have had 24 slots.

We stayed at 18 slots until this year, despite adding about 50 teams over the first 4 years of districts - even when CMP expanded to 400 last year. This year we finally got reallocated 27 slots.

It appears that they will be allocating by representation as future areas go to districts. MAR allocation is also based on team population.

[2789_B_Garcia]

Like all of these teams registering for TRR?


That would be epic! However that would double the size of TRR! 2789 would be up for helping to make that happen, but that would probably mean a change of venue, more volunteers, more sponsors, etc...it would most definitely be epic, though.

[lynca]

One of these days we will have an official Texas State Championship.

But for now we have Texas Robot Round-up (TRR) .

Almost all of the top 20 teams in the rankings are attending TRR, except for 57 , 231 , 1429 & 3802 , but maybe they will register soon ...

Rank Teams Points Tie Breakers
1 148 135
2 118 131
3 4063 122
4 3310 105
5 2587 102
6 2468 96
7 2936 84
8 231 82
9 704 81
10 3847 80 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
11 624 80
12 1477 79
13 1296 77
14 57 75
15 2848 62
16 2789 60
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[2789_B_Garcia]

Hopefully they sign up soon...there aren't too many slots left!

[JohnSchneider]

Hopefully they sign up soon...there aren't too many slots left!

If Kevin misses the cut we're going to have to make collective fun of him.

[lynca]

Sometimes conflicts in the schedule arise.... on a more serious note.

Does anyone have contacts for RoboPop 3802 ? it would be nice to confirm that they got the TRR invite.

[JohnSchneider]

Sometimes conflicts in the schedule arise.... on a more serious note.

Does anyone have contacts for RoboPop 3802 ? it would be nice to confirm that they got the TRR invite.

Surely hes not going to let his new kid keep him away from Robots ;)

I sent them a PM over twitter but their twitter is pretty inactive.

[JohnSchneider]

They responded. They didn't know about it. They do now!

[Kevin Sevcik]

Wait, you think I actually have any say in how the team spends money and events it attends? Have you MET Lucia? I'm just this guy that gets robots built, preferably under budget. She's the one actually running things.

Also, yes, unless the TRR is happening next weekend, I'm probably going to be too busy chasing a small human toddling/running around the house. Probably leaving a trail of destruction in his wake. And since his birthday's next weekend...

So yeah. Numerous reasons, including the free Fall Remix invitational, mean the Leopards won't be attending TRR. I know it will be difficult, but I'm expecting you guys to keep it together and at least pretend you're having a fun competition without us.