1986 Robot POV Video [Archive]

Jaxom

17-03-2013, 13:05

Here's a nifty robot POV video from the Greater Kansas City Regional, quarterfinal 1-2. Taken at 1080p with a GoPro camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdcKp_V9ISI

Don't watch this if you have a tendency towards motion sickness. :)

Jay O'Donnell

17-03-2013, 13:32

Just out of curiosity, what made you guys choose going to the feeder station over picking up off the ground during teleop?

jspatz1

17-03-2013, 13:37

Just out of curiosity, what made you guys choose going to the feeder station over picking up off the ground during teleop?

Its faster, and a more reliable supply. If you notice in this video, there are not nearly enough floor discs to supply us.

Akash Rastogi

17-03-2013, 15:32

http://i.imgur.com/89HANHg.gif

karomata

17-03-2013, 15:45

You can see the outstanding driver skill just by the fluidity of the video!

joelg236

17-03-2013, 15:48

I love how quick they stop, aim and shoot. If I didn't know better I'd think they were using magic.

Jaxom

17-03-2013, 16:05

I love how quick they stop, aim and shoot. If I didn't know better I'd think they were using magic.

I believe he's stopped now, but Cameron certainly used to be a big Magic player. :D

Blackphantom91

17-03-2013, 17:14

Jay still plays though.

Richard Wallace

17-03-2013, 17:25

Golly.

themccannman

17-03-2013, 21:10

Wow, that was impressive.

Kevin Ray

17-03-2013, 23:03

I'd like to use that as a training video for our drivers to see how it's done correctly. We have a tendency to like to stay to see our shots go in when, in fact, you should be on your way after the shot leaves the bot.
Great machine, driving and video!!!

vhcook

17-03-2013, 23:04

That wasn't even 1986's best match :yikes:. I count 75 pts from discs and a 20 point climb, and they scored over 100 points more than once during quals.

Thanks for sharing this. In addition to enjoying seeing what that looked like from the robot perspective, I loved the neat view of 1806 climbing, and 1982's net and fan defense (in the down position).

Here's (http://150.199.24.201/WMSDownloads/robo2013/finalmatch_005.asf) what it looked like from the outside (match starts at 3:08), courtesy of more.net.

The camera is on the other alliance during autonomous, but in addition to 1986's contribution, 1806 shot two discs into the 4-point goal, and 2457 went 2 for 3 into the high goal. During that match, 1982 was able to use their extendable net and fan combination to shut down 1806's full court shooter. Since they couldn't make full court shots, 1806 climbed for 20 and dumped 4 discs into the pyramid instead :eek:, and 1810 executed a 50 point climb/dump for blue.

ekapalka

17-03-2013, 23:15

AMAZING. How were you guys lining up shots? Also, were you using a microphone on your GoPro, or is it stock? The audio is really good :D

Alpha Beta

17-03-2013, 23:20

AMAZING. How were you guys lining up shots? Also, were you using a microphone on your GoPro, or is it stock? The audio is really good :D

Shots are lined up based on hours of driver practice. The goal is wide enough we didn't need to slow the drivers response time down by taking his eyes off the field.

As far as I know there was no extra microphone.

kingbrandon14

17-03-2013, 23:34

Definitely one of the best robots I've seen this season, and amazing execution of a great design!

Jonathan Norris

18-03-2013, 00:24

This is awesome. I've seen these GoPro videos from 2809 and 1902 and it really give you a great perspective on the game and shows you how good these teams' drivers really are. I'll try and convince the 610 students to do one on Practice day at Waterloo if we have the time :cool:

jspatz1

18-03-2013, 01:14

That wasn't even 1986's best match :yikes:. I count 75 pts from discs and a 20 point climb, and they scored over 100 points more than once during quals.

I think it was 105 total but who's counting. :D Yes there were some better matches, we only filmed a few.

I'd like to use that as a training video for our drivers to see how it's done correctly... Great machine, driving and video!!!

I am glad it is recognizable as great driving and not just a good robot. The robot has potential in its basic functionality, much of which is the same as many other robots. It is the two pilots that make it sing, without them it's just $40 worth of aluminum.

Mastonevich

18-03-2013, 11:15

That is one of the coolest things I have seen in a while. The driving is amazing.

Alpha Beta

18-03-2013, 11:57

That wasn't even 1986's best match :yikes:. I count 75 pts from discs and a 20 point climb, and they scored over 100 points more than once during quals.

Here's (http://150.199.24.201/WMSDownloads/robo2013/finalmatch_005.asf) what it looked like from the outside (match starts at 3:08), courtesy of more.net.

That's the count I got too. I'm not sure what our "best" performance was. We think we can get to 122 consistently by champs (42 auto, 60 teleop, 20 climb). The machine will climb to 30 depending on how much time is left after the 5th set of discs. I know we could get a 6th set of discs if we risked not climbing at all and only faced light defensive pressure.

jspatz1

18-03-2013, 12:04

That's the count I got too.

Apparantly 13 discs x 3 = 39, not 49 as it says on my notepad. :confused:

Jaxom

18-03-2013, 12:56

Apparantly 13 discs x 3 = 39, not 49 as it says on my notepad. :confused:

We've got some kids on the team that are pretty good at math; maybe you could get some help from them? :D

jspatz1

18-03-2013, 13:04

We've got some kids on the team that are pretty good at math; maybe you could get some help from them? :D

Much too late for that. I blame Mrs. Miller, my 1st grade teacher, for experimenting with "new math" in 1968.

JesseK

18-03-2013, 13:09

Alpha Beta

18-03-2013, 13:30

Are all of the fields marked by dark tape and/or tire tracks like what's seen in that video? If so, there are tons more points of reference on the field than I originally thought. Parallax for line-up will be almost non-existent (heavy sigh, we don't compete until weeks 5 & 7).

Both Hub City and Greater KC had dark tape to keep the extra pyramid carpet connected to the main carpet.

The tire-tracks in the center of the field might just be shadows from the pyramid bars or side net bars and the overhead lights.

In Hub they tried to mark the starting locations of the discs with a small piece of tape, but most ground pick-ups scraped the tape up along with the discs. You'll see some X's marked with sharpie on the carpet instead to mark those positions.

PS. In match 25 we did score 110 points. 42 in Auto, 48 in teleop (9, 9, 9, 9, 12) and 20 climb.

jspatz1

18-03-2013, 13:43

All of the apparent lines other than the taped carpet seams are shadows from the field lighting. The square carpet under the pyramids is defined in the field drawings, so it and the primary longitudinal and lateral carpet seams should be fairly accurate reference points.

Ravage457

18-03-2013, 16:57

I was like wow, great driving and awesome robot it awesome to see videos like this, i always wonder what a robot point of view is like

themccannman

19-03-2013, 01:43

AMAZING. How were you guys lining up shots? Also, were you using a microphone on your GoPro, or is it stock? The audio is really good :D

I think they are using a GoPro hero 3 which has a phenomenal mic built in.

FRC3883FRC

19-03-2013, 04:49

Just a quick GoPro tip if you can get something in the frame of the shot it makes the video much easier to watch. Something that does not move and stays put n frame. Its something i always try to tell people using them. It makes a world of difference when just a little bit stays put. Still a great video and robot. I have some GoPro footage from the drivers POV now everyone can see what it looks like from the driver station.

MOOcow

19-03-2013, 18:11

AMAZING. How were you guys lining up shots? Also, were you using a microphone on your GoPro, or is it stock? The audio is really good :D

I didn't attach another mic. It was the internal mic. I believe the Hero 3's have improved audio quality.

I think they are using a GoPro hero 3 which has a phenomenal mic built in.

Yeah. We are using a HD Hero 3

Just a quick GoPro tip if you can get something in the frame of the shot it makes the video much easier to watch. Something that does not move and stays put n frame. Its something i always try to tell people using them. It makes a world of difference when just a little bit stays put. Still a great video and robot. I have some GoPro footage from the drivers POV now everyone can see what it looks like from the driver station.

Thanks for the tip! I just recently got it, so I haven't had much time to play with it.

neshera

19-03-2013, 21:49

Don't watch this if you have a tendency towards motion sickness. :)
Or towards jealousy ;)
This is fantastic. You guys were great at the Regional; lots of spirit, lots of support for your fellow Lee's Summit teams and everyone else.
Thanks for a great weekend!

Alpha Beta

19-03-2013, 22:07

Or towards jealousy ;)
This is fantastic. You guys were great at the Regional; lots of spirit, lots of support for your fellow Lee's Summit teams and everyone else.
Thanks for a great weekend!

We train our new members to put the crosstown sports rivalries behind and embrace the cooperative spirit of FIRST. It feels strange to them at the onset, but by the time they experience their first tournament I think they get it.

The 1625 robot seemed to get better and better throughout the weekend. Good luck at Midwest.

glennword

01-04-2013, 02:34

Why does the arm move up and down between loading and shooting?

Alpha Beta

01-04-2013, 08:14

Why does the arm move up and down between loading and shooting?

The pneumatic cylinders running the arm stop mechanically against the shooting tray mid-stroke. Every time the angle of the shooting tray changes the arm moves briefly (if it is in the up position) to remove that mechanical interference.